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2012-12-23 10:27:10 AM  
16 votes:
You're doing something in the restaurant you own that, while perfectly legal, your patrons consider icky enough to lodge formal complaints about it. Presumably more customers didn't bother filing complaints but just never came back. Do you keep doing it while whining about your rights? Or do you realize that walking around a dining room with a baby hanging off your boob might be off-putting to your customers and cut it out?
2012-12-23 10:11:22 AM  
8 votes:
If I ever open a restaurant, babies and children under the age of .... 30 will be forboden.
2012-12-23 01:17:08 PM  
7 votes:

quickdraw: Yes because it is more important to keep a handful of prudes happy than do your job and feed your baby.


If those prudes are paying customers and you're the owner of the establishment, then yes, it is more important.
2012-12-23 01:37:53 PM  
6 votes:

aimtastic: If those prudes are paying customers and you're the owner of the establishment, then yes, it is more important.


As strongly as I advocate boobs, I think I have to agree. Breastfeeding on the job might not be unsanitary, but I can see how it could be off-putting. If it hurts your business, it'll make life harder for you and your baby, which isn't in either of your best interests. Seems like a case of "just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should."
2012-12-23 01:05:49 PM  
6 votes:
FTA:"I was clearing a table while breastfeeding,"

How is it even possible to clear a table while breastfeeding?
So she was holding her kid in one arm and handling dirty dishes at the same time?
What the actual f*ck?
This isn't a "breastfeeding on the job is bad" issue. This is a "mom is farking stupid" issue.
2012-12-23 12:02:56 PM  
6 votes:

TheSpaceAdmiral: I'm not sure I really understand the potential health risk.  This is happening out front, not in the kitchen (so far as we know),


That's the important part.  If I'm sitting in the dining room, and I see a member of the staff breastfeeding while walking around in front of the customers, I'm going to wonder what else taking place out of my sight.

Breast feed all you want, but please, please have at least some tiny amount of consideration for the people around you.  You are not "performing a miracle of nourishing life," you are secreting body fluids, and while it's perfectly natural, I don't want to see it while I'm eating.

If that offends the restaurant owners, they should probably let potential customers know ahead of time, so that we can make an informed decision.  Maybe something like a sign on the door saying "Our employees secrete bodily fluids while on duty and customers are expected to compliment them on their successful secretions because they are new mothers and that makes them special, so f**k you."

That way, I'll know that your restaurant does not want my money.
2012-12-23 01:45:52 PM  
5 votes:
I have no problem with mothers feeding their children.

While working and clearing tables ain't the place.

quickdraw: aimtastic: You're doing something in the restaurant you own that, while perfectly legal, your patrons consider icky enough to lodge formal complaints about it. Presumably more customers didn't bother filing complaints but just never came back. Do you keep doing it while whining about your rights? Or do you realize that walking around a dining room with a baby hanging off your boob might be off-putting to your customers and cut it out?

Yes because it is more important to keep a handful of prudes happy than do your job and feed your baby.

She was clearing off a table for crissakes not pouring the wine.


It's not about prudes, it's about keeping to the health code. Eating a sandwich while you're clearing tables isn't up to code either. Baby dribbles, spits up, it's on the table. That's the same risk factor as spewing hotdog out of your gob when doing the same thing. Bodily fluids like saliva aren't supposed to go on tables or tableware.

After you eat, you wash your hands before you return to work. It's the same thing after breastfeeding your kid. It's not a matter of being prudish, it's about complying with sanitation. I don't want to see a busboy stuffing his face as he's handling dishes or silver. Or pick them up afterwards if he doesn't wash his hands.

My ex-wife breastfed, and even when she was bottle feeding with breast milk, she did so in a quiet place. Feeding your kid at a table isn't about being a prude, it's simply about complying with code, and to be honest, why in the world would you think that feeding your child out in the dining room was OK in the first place? Really? A dining room when you're working is about as wrong a place to feed your infant anyhow. That means that she's not working, and should be on a break to do so. I'm all for breastfeeding, but in restaurants, there is a REASON for the regs on employees eating and matters of cleanliness. At home? Knock yourself out. In the restaurant, there are regs that have to be complied with. In the park? Knock yourself out. On the bus? Not ideal locations, because of the amount of noise and bustle, but seriously, have some common sense. It doesn't help anyone, and it only illustrates a divide that has some folks thinking, "It's OK when I do it!"
2012-12-23 03:13:38 PM  
4 votes:
This does not bother me in the least. I don't really see how it's unsanitary.
2012-12-23 04:12:33 PM  
3 votes:
It's her farking restaurant! It's not like she's a poor trod upon employee fighting a jerk boss. She owns the joint, so she can do what she wants. There is no public health issue here. If people don't like it, they can go to another restaurant. I think the health inspectors should leave it alone.

The people who complained jerks. Fark them.
2012-12-23 04:05:15 PM  
3 votes:
Being married to a woman who breast-fed all three of our kids, I've had enough exposure (haha) to it that to me it DOES seem perfectly natural. Like accepting homosexual relationships, this is one issue that will eventually be looked back on with astonishment that anyone ever found it "gross". And just like homosexuality, if you find it disgusting then the problem is with you.
2012-12-23 02:05:19 PM  
3 votes:

quickdraw: hubiestubert: It's not about prudes, it's about keeping to the health code. Eating a sandwich while you're clearing tables isn't up to code either. Baby dribbles, spits up, it's on the table. That's the same risk factor as spewing hotdog out of your gob when doing the same thing. Bodily fluids like saliva aren't supposed to go on tables or tableware.

WARNING: This may affect your desire to eat out in the future - but customers (of all ages) regularly drool, cough, spit up and generally rub their snot all over the table when they eat in public. When you are clearing away a table you are simply removing the top layer of assorted bodily detritus. Setting the table is when you get concerned about making sure it is as sanitary as possible for the next customer.


Which is why when you clear, you wash your hands. Remember: been in the industry for about 25 years now. Handwashing isn't just a courtesy, it's religion in this business. And yes, I know what customers are like, which is why if a plate has touched a table to a patron, it doesn't come back to the kitchen. I will remake something, but I won't touch food that customers have touched. Period. They don't like the fish, I'll make them another one. Once it hits their table, I don't want to see it again, until the dish has been washed and sanitized. And oddly enough, that is pretty much the same reason that you spray down the table and replace the silver and plates for the next folks: customers, I don't know where they've been. MY people? They are washing their hands, the silver has been washed and sannied, and for damn sure, folks wash their hands after clearing.
2012-12-23 01:49:20 PM  
3 votes:

Lukeonia1: Breastfeeding on the job might not be unsanitary


Have you seen me eat? Seen my hygiene? Never, ever expose your kid to my germs by cleaning up my leftovers with your newborn sucking off your tit.
2012-12-23 10:54:40 AM  
3 votes:
The article did not have a clear picture of the breasts, so I cannot form an opinion.
2012-12-23 09:46:19 PM  
2 votes:
Do some people not have enough problems in their lives? People have been breastfeeding babies forever, yet people want to act all prudish about it these days, WTF???? I can understand if the woman is flashing everyone or something, but why do people get so upset? I, personally, would rather be around a quiet breastfeeding baby than a screaming hungry one.

/Childfree
//Don't even like kids and I don't get the outrage
2012-12-23 06:34:11 PM  
2 votes:
While I personally wonder why the hell she  wanted to breastfeed in public (wouldn't you want to do that while sitting down so you can spend a bit of time with the baby?), no, I see no problem with this. Not unless she's holding the baby dangerously or spilling milk, but it's actually pretty damn hard to spill milk from what I know. Babies don't like letting go of food.

/Really, people need to stop freaking out over breastfeeding. It's not unsanitary, and 'it's icky' is not actually a valid complaint for much. I understand that it's a resturaunt, but let's be honest here, your average McDonald's probably has real unsanitary health practices like not using gloves or washing hands after going to the bathroom. Go complain about them.
2012-12-23 06:10:56 PM  
2 votes:
Anyone up in arms about this has never worked in or owned a restaurant. Nor have they had children. As having done all three, if you think the food delivered to you has been prepared in a autoclave and delivered to your table by Bubble Boy, you should not be eating out. You want to control your environment?Stay home and nuke your meals in a microwave.
Those pretty faces that bring the food to the table don't wash their hands every time they leave your table. They probably just removed something from the table of that fat (ethnic group you hate) person eating next to you. They handled money, credit cards, maybe even picked their nose before grabbing a plate filled with your food and bringing to your table.
A lot of restaurants don't make bacon to order. That was made when the Chef came in and has been sitting around all day with waitstaff and owners occasionally grabbing a piece.
The things that can legally happen in a kitchen would make all you pansies cry.
If you are a parent, you have probably eaten things that have been chewed and spit out by your kids or been subject to things that might make Bear Grylls puke.
The thing is, if you really wanted pristine food you would be eating food you grew and prepared in your private bio-dome.
Also, it is her business. If she losing customers that think what she is doing is gross and is willing to accept that loss...that is good business.
The Fark rage about soulless corporations ends at the small business person.
Do what you love and do it the way you want and it is easy to believe in what you do.
There are easier ways to get rich if you want to sell out yourself to do it.
2012-12-23 05:18:44 PM  
2 votes:

udhq: If I wasn't informed that this would be going on, and I see it in the middle of my meal and lose my appetite,


Seeing a child breast feeding would cause you to lose your appetite? Really? You might want to start therapy because that isn't normal. Seriously, not by a long shot.
2012-12-23 04:49:27 PM  
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: Holy christ that's not sanitary.  I'm sorry, but you either need to take a leave of absence or leave the kid with a babysitter while you're working.  Don't farking breastfeed on the job like that.  Blech.


A baby eating the way it was meant to eat is not unsanitary. Anyone who thinks so is damaged and dysfunctional. If you can eat in a restaurant a baby should be able to. You don't go hide and eat your meals.

You know what is unsanitary? Every time I go out to eat I see some gross adult sneezing, coughing, picking their nose or chewing with their mouth open and spewing flecks of spit.

The people who equate feeding a baby with " taking a sh* t" are flat out retarded. There is no helping someone that stupid.
2012-12-23 04:03:56 PM  
2 votes:
Right or wrong, if I saw that while I was eating, I'd walk the fark out.
2012-12-23 02:45:44 PM  
2 votes:

Via Infinito: I don't see how "customers getting grossed out by the lady with dirty dishes in one hand and a kid attached to boob in the other" is in any way equivalent to "busybodies wanting big government to regulate small business owner".


Because it is none of their business (thats the busybody part) that she breastfeeds her child in her own restaurant (small business owner) and yet they are calling out the health dept (big govt) to regulate her.
2012-12-23 02:34:08 PM  
2 votes:

Via Infinito: quickdraw: She isnt endangering anyone and she isnt breaking any codes or laws. Its just a bunch of busybodies who want big government to step in and further regulate the small business owner. Not only do these busybodies want to interfere with her livelihood - they want to tell her how she can raise her children as well.

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You're being deliberately hyperbolic here. I just can't tell if it's sarcasm or trolling attempt.


It is neither. I am quite sincere. I'm just using language that is generally coopted by the right. But these are busybodies who do want the govt. to step in and tell her how she can run her business and raise her child. There is no scientific or legal justification to their complaint. They just don't like it.
2012-12-23 01:24:06 PM  
2 votes:
I don't see the problem, as long as the baby leaves at least a 20% tip.
2012-12-23 01:09:31 PM  
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: Holy christ that's not sanitary.  I'm sorry, but you either need to take a leave of absence or leave the kid with a babysitter while you're working.  Don't farking breastfeed on the job like that.  Blech.


There are serious protections for mothers who breastfeed children on the job. Their child has far more right to be fed than you have at not being grossed out. And as long as she isn't feeding the child around food that has yet to be eaten or prepared then I don't really think there are any sanitary concerns.
2012-12-23 12:39:45 PM  
2 votes:
I have zero problem.
"I was clearing a table while breastfeeding," she told CBC News.
But who does that?
2012-12-23 11:48:00 AM  
2 votes:
Holy christ that's not sanitary.  I'm sorry, but you either need to take a leave of absence or leave the kid with a babysitter while you're working.  Don't farking breastfeed on the job like that.  Blech.
2012-12-23 10:23:13 AM  
2 votes:
"I was clearing a table while breastfeeding,"

 It looks like this will be written into the employee handbook right after the section on "All employees must wash hands after using the bathroom".
2012-12-24 12:12:11 AM  
1 votes:
Farting is a natural & harmless thing that I sometimes need to do; but I try to avoid doing it in front of my customers.

Wouldn't kill the kid to wait to eat.
2012-12-23 11:29:04 PM  
1 votes:
2012-12-23 08:06:55 PM  
1 votes:

jst3p: silverjets: Yes she has the legal right to breastfeed in public. But that doesn't mean I agree with it or that I want to see it.

In life you may see some things you don't agree with or don't want to see. Grow up.


I need to grow up because I don't agree with something? Really? So did the women that argued for the right to breastfeed in public need to grow up because they didn't agree with not being allowed to do something?

Just because they are allowed to do something doesn't mean everyone else in the world has to agree with it or want to see it.

As I wrote earlier, if I saw that in a restaurant I would leave. I didn't write that I would complain. I didn't write that I would tell her to stop. I wrote that I would remove myself from the situation that offends me. If that is not the grown up thing to do, well fark then I don't know what is.
2012-12-23 07:50:05 PM  
1 votes:

silverjets: Yes she has the legal right to breastfeed in public. But that doesn't mean I agree with it or that I want to see it.


In life you may see some things you don't agree with or don't want to see. Grow up.
2012-12-23 07:42:43 PM  
1 votes:

Third_Uncle_Eno: Um. Why the hell isn't she on maternity leave? that's what it's for. So you can bond, breastfeed your kid while NOT working and getting paid 60% of your salary.


Because she owns the place.
2012-12-23 07:36:55 PM  
1 votes:
For all those wondering how she cleared a table while breastfeeding...baby slings
2012-12-23 07:27:31 PM  
1 votes:

Cyno01: As the business owner, its generally a bad idea to offend your patrons. And i dont agree that that it Isnt a sanitation issue, if shes clearing tables with the kid, whos to say shes not back in the kitchen with him too. You cant eat near the line and any beverages have to be in a covered container and stored where they cant get knocked over, not sure how you can do that with a boob.


There's more people in this thread offended by people being offended than were actually offended.
2012-12-23 07:21:09 PM  
1 votes:
You people need to grow the fark up. I truly wish you could take your puritanical attitudes and fark off to the next "new world," sparing the rest of us from your conservative bigotry. Breasts aren't used for sex, they're for nourishment. If you could get it through your frat boy heads that "tits" are natural and breastfeeding in public is not off putting or making anyone an AW, maybe the rest of the truly enlightened women could breastfeed without having to worry about offending someone because they aren't ashamed of their baby or their breasts.

/right before they cover back up because there's no way they'd walk around with their boobs showing in public
2012-12-23 06:31:01 PM  
1 votes:
octopied "My big concern would be fecal oral contamination. Babies are little poo factories and to carry one singlehandledly, your arm/hand is under it's butt. Then, she's handling dishes. Now, yes, the dishes are dirty, but to me that'd be the same as putting your dirty dishes on the toilet before you put them in the dishwasher. Why wouldn't you do that? Severe cross contamination issues, that's why."
If you don't think that a restaurant you frequent has a dishwasher that cleans your plates from some stray particles of poop that may have fallen out of a baby carried by the owner, what makes you think it will clean any of the other foul things that people shed or purposely put on their plates. Employees are required to wash their hands after using the bathroom. Patrons are not. Also a patron will often put something in their mouth and put it back on the plate, not to mention the dinnerware.
This is like people who don't shake hands but don't have someone open every door for them or never use an ATM, shopping cart, accept food not prepared by themselves or don't wear latex gloves when peeing in a public urinal (the splash back doesn't just land on your hands). Hell, if you checked your coat it was in close contact with god knows what was on that other guys jacket.
2012-12-23 06:25:42 PM  
1 votes:
The fact is that in a place where people are dining, there exists a reasonable expectation of a certain level of decorum. Of course, that varies from place to place, but I've seen people asked to leave fairly down-market restaurants for FAR less.

The fact that this was someone working in the capacity of a service provider, rather than a customer, just makes this unprofessional and inappropriate.
2012-12-23 06:20:04 PM  
1 votes:

jmsvrsn: Body fluids can transmit disease you morons. Would it be OK if I jacked off in your mashed potatoes?


Well, if I'd known it was going to be that kind of party...
2012-12-23 06:17:51 PM  
1 votes:

udhq: jst3p: And I do agree with what you wrote earlier: a big part of this is that is that it puts me, as the customer, on eggshells, where it is incumbent upon me to make a concerted effort not to look, which can be tricky. This is a service-industry environment, and for an owner to put me in this kind of a position just isn't really appropriate.

That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I just a) disagree and b) think if it really causes you to lose your appetite then you have serious issues.

From earlier in the thread: "Oh, and ladies, if you choose not to be discrete about it I am going to look. I won't make comments or stare but you might catch me taking a peek. Deal with it."

Oh, I get it. You're a troll.

Well, then, good day to you sir.



Uh, how exactly is that trolling? Kids today, that word used to mean something!
2012-12-23 05:52:56 PM  
1 votes:
You guys are slacking:

"I'll have what he's having".
2012-12-23 05:51:05 PM  
1 votes:
Hey, if she feeds her filthy spawn in the dinning area how do we know this woman isn't in the back sacrificing goats in the name of Lucifer? Rubbing the blood and entrails all over the food and utensils? WE CAN'T KNOW
2012-12-23 05:40:42 PM  
1 votes:
Jeeeeze some of you are just precious - there is no evidence she ever did anything unsanitary with her business. Oh what's that? It's her business - yeah you can be upset, "disgusted" or otherwise put off and not eat there. Maybe there's enough of you to drive her out of business - I'd guess not tho. This thread seems to have brought together the "I hate crotchfruits" with the "womens shuld just stay at home in ma kichen" crowd.

What you should be worried about is what the cooks are doing to your food, or not doing as the case may be. You want to make sure your line cooks are doing coke and not smoking weed. Coked up cooks are the best.
2012-12-23 05:29:06 PM  
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: jst3p: The My Little Pony Killer: Holy christ that's not sanitary

Really?

"I was clearing a table while breastfeeding," she told CBC News.


Yeah! She might get those dirty dishes... dirty.


Idiot.

You don't think that if she's doing this while busing tables she may also be doing it while performing other duties at the restaurant?  One can assume if she's clearing dirty dishes, at some point she has to take those dirty dishes to the wash area where CLEAN dishes would be around as well.


Assume what you want, those facts are not present in TFA. I could assume that the cook isn't paid enough and spits in every third burger but that doesn't make it fact.
2012-12-23 05:28:13 PM  
1 votes:
Time management is an essential skill for any business owner. I don't think she's quite there yet, though.
2012-12-23 05:25:40 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, I was being pretty hard on myself today, feeling like I wasn't the greatest person, but then I read this thread and now I realize I'm so much better and well adjusted that 90% of the morans in here.

Feels good man.
2012-12-23 05:14:46 PM  
1 votes:
If breastfeeding bothers you, you need to grow up.

Oh, and ladies, if you choose not to be discrete about it I am going to look. I won't make comments or stare but you might catch me taking a peek. Deal with it.
2012-12-23 04:54:29 PM  
1 votes:

Son of Thunder: Good on her for knowing her rights and sticking to her guns (so to speak). If I lived over there, for every one of you in the thread who said "I'd leave", I'd go eat there twice.


I couldn't agree more. There is nothing gross or untoward about any of it.

/still don't get how she fed the baby while clearing a table
2012-12-23 04:54:11 PM  
1 votes:
My girlfriend likes to cock-feed from me at restaurants while we're waiting for our meals. A bit of an appetiser if you will. Sometimes some patrons will act annoyed or even call us rude for doing it, but as far as I'm concerned though it's a perfectly natural, and even beautiful act. I for one don't plan to stop because a bunch of busybodies are getting their panties in a bunch.  I absolutely agree that babies, or anyone really; let's not discriminate, should be able to suck on a person's organs to obtain bodily fluids wherever and whenever they want.
2012-12-23 04:47:30 PM  
1 votes:
Her actions may not be the best marketing strategy, but she's not contaminating food, so it's her right to do so.

A picture of some guy from Soldier of Fortune rambo-ing it up with an AR-15 will make me and many. many people avoid your store even if there is something I want to buy. But I would defend your right to display it.

Right wingers like big government as long as it's authoritarianism - more cops, more military, less freedoms to do harmless things.

La Leche should march topless outside the complainants' churches.
2012-12-23 04:45:26 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, this again. A few thoughts:

1) How can you preform your job duties while breastfeeding? I would imagine that cleaning a table requires both hands.
2) Why aren't you leaving your kid at home? It's really nice that your boss has no problem bringing your kid to work with you, but breastfeeding the kid while cleaning a table must really be taking advantage of his nice nature.
3) Of course people have an issue with this you twat! But I'll get more into that later on.
4) There is a sanitation issue when ever there is any form of fluid exchange from one person to another.
5) I think that you did this, not to help out, but because you knew it would get attention and you wanted to stand on your soap box
6) Your life may revolve around your child, but ours does not. We don't give a damn about your child, the day to day troubles you have balancing family and work, or any of that mess. We go to restaurants to eat, not to see you breastfeed your child in what was probably more of a form of protest about society and their views on public breastfeeding than about actually feeding your child.
7) Your were breastfeeding your child, your boss did not ask you in any way shape or form to help out. You made that choice, not him. You should have remained out of site.
8) Why the hell do so many breast feeding mothers want to make a farking big deal about breastfeeding in public? I know that it's natural, but so is masturbation, pissing and sex. Doesn't mean we need to do those things out in the open as well.
9) Customers have the right to complain. Having a child doesn't exempt you from those complaints. Especially when the child is a part of those complaints. Don't like that customers complained that you were doing your job in food service with a child clamped to your nipple. Sounds like you have two rather easy solutions: either leave the child at home/with a sitter or find a new job.
10) Unless you work in child care, please leave your kids at home. I really can't stress this one enough. I don't want the kids of the waitstaff running around the kitchen and dining areas. My first job selling insurance I was in an office with many single mothers. Summer time, christmas break, teacher work days, spring and christmas break as well as thanksgiving break there were kids running around the office. The office was a mess due to all the toys laying around and the kids who had gotten into everything. They would run around screaming. One married couple worked there and were busting their asses to reach the point of opening up their own office. Their kid was 10 years old. They had been pushing for this for two years. For two years that kid was at the office 12 plus hours a day during the summer, weekend and school holidays and on school days he would go from school straight to the office until it was time for him to bathe and go to bed. We wanted that whiny brat around the office as much as he wanted to be there. Please, don't burden customers or coworkers with your kids. We don't want to deal with them.
2012-12-23 04:37:08 PM  
1 votes:
One question I have is if she's comfortable enough/able to multi-task like this, does she think it's ok to breastfeed in all other aspects of the restaurant operations? She got 'busted' for feeding while clearing tables- given her perspective, is it the same for food prep, food inventory, etc?

^ Totally just thinking outloud, not trying to imply she actually does these things - but I'll tell you right now, if I was eating at her establishment & saw her feeding the baby in the dining room, I would assume she has no problem doing it anywhere, even in the kitchen.
2012-12-23 04:37:07 PM  
1 votes:
Good on her for knowing her rights and sticking to her guns (so to speak). If I lived over there, for every one of you in the thread who said "I'd leave", I'd go eat there twice.
2012-12-23 04:33:31 PM  
1 votes:

jerem43: As a restaurant manager, you do not eat food while working. It is a health violation.


Yup. Hand to mouth is a big no no. You shouldn't even touch your face or hair without washing your hands after.

That's why I said this woman just handling her kid is the real health violation. Not the breast feeding.
2012-12-23 04:29:42 PM  
1 votes:

aimtastic: You're doing something in the restaurant you own that, while perfectly legal, your patrons consider icky enough to lodge formal complaints about it. Presumably more customers didn't bother filing complaints but just never came back. Do you keep doing it while whining about your rights? Or do you realize that walking around a dining room with a baby hanging off your boob might be off-putting to your customers and cut it out?


Done in 4.

Yes it's natural, but while working in food serving it looks unprofessional. She needs to get over herself.
2012-12-23 04:27:01 PM  
1 votes:

aimtastic: quickdraw: Yes because it is more important to keep a handful of prudes happy than do your job and feed your baby.

If those prudes are paying customers and you're the owner of the establishment, then yes, it is more important.


Agreed, it's not necessarily an issue of health but an issue of professionalism. It would be one thing if as the owner she was breast feeding in the back or seated at a table, however to do it while actively working is something different. Perception is reality in this situation.
2012-12-23 04:23:48 PM  
1 votes:
The real problem for me is if she's that free and loose about letting the little monster swing from her milkflaps what else is she doing? Babies are filthy. They sh*t and piss and all sorts of other gross stuff which she is likely cleaning up all the time. Aside from giving the baby a bath somewhere in the restaurant that ISN'T the kitchen sink there is going to be feces and urine on it. She is constantly handling it then touching serving surfaces and quite likely food.

THAT is what is gross. Put the kid in a carrier, wash your freaking hands and THEN take care of restaurant business.

I would definitely walk out of the place even without the boobshow.
2012-12-23 04:22:27 PM  
1 votes:
Doesn't see the problem:

Of course, she wants to make it mandatory.

I don't have a problem with a woman breastfeeding her child in public, but I can't stand idiots who are militant about it... and clearing a table while she is doing this strikes me as a bit on the unreasonable "militant" side of the issue. Sit in the corner and breast feed your baby. When done, get up and clear the table. Also, don't be one of those weirdos who breastfeeds their kids after they can walk. Once they can walk, they can handle regular foods, and all you can do at that point is hold back their immune systems.

On a side note, wasn't it found that peanut allergies were related to mothers who breastfed while eating peanut products?
2012-12-23 04:21:29 PM  
1 votes:
If you are not going to bother bringing enough for the whole table, then don't display them in the dining room.

/breast thread without breasts.
2012-12-23 04:14:03 PM  
1 votes:

OregonVet: I have zero problem.
"I was clearing a table while breastfeeding," she told CBC News.
But who does that?


Yeah, that's the problem I have with this story. I'm all for letting mom's breastfeed in public, but it sounds like she was trying to make a spectacle of it.
2012-12-23 04:11:51 PM  
1 votes:

xanadian: Apparently boobs are at least almost as threatening as a penis.


And apparently to most people as filthy as some fat guys sweaty bunghole. Wow... at 50 nothing usually surprises me anymore, but today I'm flabberdasted. If anyone's at risk it's the baby from the customers.
2012-12-23 04:08:37 PM  
1 votes:

The Great Gazoo: Being married to a woman who breast-fed all three of our kids, I've had enough exposure (haha) to it that to me it DOES seem perfectly natural. Like accepting homosexual relationships, this is one issue that will eventually be looked back on with astonishment that anyone ever found it "gross". And just like homosexuality, if you find it disgusting then the problem is with you.


Gay dudes don't assplow each other on public eating surfaces.

Well maybe they do sometimes but it's not very sanitary.
Santorum for your coffee, anyone?
2012-12-23 04:02:47 PM  
1 votes:
Sit the f*ck down for the short time it takes to feed your kid ya dumb bint.

And seriously, if your PAYING CUSTOMERS are complaining maybe... just MAYBE it is in your best interest to not gross them out even if they are irrational idiots.

I doubt the boob sauce is much of a health risk (can hepatitis or whatever live in breast milk?) but having a poop/snot/vomit factory hanging from your tits while you're cleaning tables might be.

and the government has already apologized...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/12/23/ns-breastf e eding-department-.html
2012-12-23 02:56:58 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: Via Infinito: I don't see how "customers getting grossed out by the lady with dirty dishes in one hand and a kid attached to boob in the other" is in any way equivalent to "busybodies wanting big government to regulate small business owner".

Because it is none of their business (thats the busybody part) that she breastfeeds her child in her own restaurant (small business owner) and yet they are calling out the health dept (big govt) to regulate her.


I'm sure if this woman were a bit more professional, she wouldn't be having these issues. Nobody's saying that she can't have her kid at work with her, but maybe she should separate her parental duties (breastfeeding) from her professional duties (clearing tables)? She could take a break from work, go in the back room and feed the child, then come back to work. Or better yet, she could pump and get a sitter, so she can do her job without distraction. Either way, her customers won't be getting grossed out and calling the health department on her.
2012-12-23 02:42:11 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: Via Infinito: quickdraw: She isnt endangering anyone and she isnt breaking any codes or laws. Its just a bunch of busybodies who want big government to step in and further regulate the small business owner. Not only do these busybodies want to interfere with her livelihood - they want to tell her how she can raise her children as well.

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You're being deliberately hyperbolic here. I just can't tell if it's sarcasm or trolling attempt.

It is neither. I am quite sincere. I'm just using language that is generally coopted by the right. But these are busybodies who do want the govt. to step in and tell her how she can run her business and raise her child. There is no scientific or legal justification to their complaint. They just don't like it.


I don't see how "customers getting grossed out by the lady with dirty dishes in one hand and a kid attached to boob in the other" is in any way equivalent to "busybodies wanting big government to regulate small business owner".
2012-12-23 02:28:42 PM  
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Timing is sort of everything here.


Agreed. Thats why Im so puzzled by your reaction. I expect that the person clearing the empty table is probably going to drool - maybe even cough. I expect they will shed hair and dander and whatnot. Honestly eating is the least offensive thing people do.

But thats why we wipe the table off right before it is set right?
2012-12-23 02:22:45 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: hubiestubert: Food particles drop out of said busboy's mouth, they hit the table. You brush said table with your arm

Why am I brushing the table with my arm? I have already eaten and left the restaurant. The busboy is cleaning up my mess.


That same busboy, feeding himself, may have had a meal earlier. On your table. Before you came in. Or another. That's why you don't have folks eating while clearing. It's just plain nasty. Other peoples' food detritus mixing with your clean setting.

I like boobs. I'm glad my daughter breastfed. But there are times when it's not appropriate. I have no problem with folks breastfeeding, but while clearing tables is NOT the time. Or setting tables. Or preparing food for that matter. Timing is sort of everything here. She can breastfeed there, but there is an appropriate time for that. It's not just about where, but what tasks are being accomplished.
2012-12-23 02:21:23 PM  
1 votes:

hubiestubert: More importantly: knowing EXACTLY how nasty people are, why would you expose your child to other peoples' food detritus while they're trying to have a quiet nosh?


Babies dont need quiet to eat. All they need is their mother's breast and a room designed to be eaten in is the most logical place for babies to eat too. A place where people go to poo and throw-up makes much less sense for feeding anyone - let alone a baby.
2012-12-23 02:18:03 PM  
1 votes:
Were I a customer at her table, I'd likely giggle, compliment her on her multi-tasking abilities, and be in awe of her lack of understanding of her business' target market expectations. Then I'd tell the story for a few months over the water cooler and at parties.
2012-12-23 02:16:42 PM  
1 votes:
More importantly: knowing EXACTLY how nasty people are, why would you expose your child to other peoples' food detritus while they're trying to have a quiet nosh?
2012-12-23 02:11:12 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: hubiestubert: quickdraw: aimtastic: quickdraw: Yes because it is more important to keep a handful of prudes happy than do your job and feed your baby.

If those prudes are paying customers and you're the owner of the establishment, then yes, it is more important.

No it isn't. If you have a good product at a good price then a few prudes walking away and making a big fuss is just good publicity.

Do you want to see a busboy stuffing his face while clearing a table?

Well I would assume it would bother his manager since most employees generally are not paid to eat - but no it wouldnt bother me at all. If Im in an eating place and somebody else is eating I dont think I would even notice.


Food particles drop out of said busboy's mouth, they hit the table. You brush said table with your arm, his saliva has now lovingly transferred to your arm. Possibly only your plate when you reach for the salt, or pick up your sandwich, and then it can be passed straight into you. YOU may not notice it, but in the industry, that is not just a small no no, it's something that you can fire someone for. You eat, you eat away from the patrons, off the line, out of the way, and you wash up after. You don't eat on the line, you don't eat behind the bar, you wash your damn hands.
2012-12-23 02:01:03 PM  
1 votes:

hubiestubert: What makes this odd, is that as the owner, she should know the regs better than anyone there. That she's confused as to what the issue was, says a lot about her. Pitch in and help all you want, but at least understand the regs before you get out there.


She knows the regs. The regs say she is doing nothing wrong.
2012-12-23 01:54:35 PM  
1 votes:
What makes this odd, is that as the owner, she should know the regs better than anyone there. That she's confused as to what the issue was, says a lot about her. Pitch in and help all you want, but at least understand the regs before you get out there.
2012-12-23 01:37:48 PM  
1 votes:
That's almost as bad as Burger King using the drooling tards to wipe down tables.
2012-12-23 01:22:45 PM  
1 votes:
I don't have a single problem with breastfeeding a child wherever the fark you happen to be. I'm not grossed out by it, I'm not driven into an erectile rage over an exposed breast, and I couldn't give less of a shiat how anyone else feels about it. It's a completely natural thing, deal with it.

That being said, as a former health inspector there are code
requirements regarding this. To summarize: it's not allowed, at least not in Georgia.
2012-12-23 10:06:38 AM  
1 votes:
Not only will La Leche call in a mass nurse-in, the place will be lectured for not having bilingual breast pumps.
 
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