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(Salon)   Some of the "bravest atheists in the country" are waging a war on Christmas. And they must be stopped   (salon.com) divider line 49
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2012-12-23 01:44:12 PM
8 votes:
Christmas is pretty much a secular holiday anyway.

It celebrates when Santa died on the cross to give you eternal low low doorbuster prices.
2012-12-23 01:58:31 PM
4 votes:

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


Religion is an Atheism.
2012-12-23 01:59:46 PM
3 votes:
gad: Atheists are doing what they need to do to be heard and to gain some position in the society.

bunner: So stop trying to get a gold star from the people you insist oppress and loathe you. It makes you look silly.

Atheists demand respect and expect acceptance of their beliefs. Atheists feel dirty inside. All the anger, the forced arrogance, the belligerence -- it's simply shame turned inside out.
2012-12-23 08:39:38 AM
3 votes:

St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?


Because JESUS!!!
2012-12-23 05:31:48 PM
2 votes:
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2012-12-23 03:01:48 PM
2 votes:
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2012-12-23 02:27:24 PM
2 votes:

ParaHandy: Most people aren't as smart as me, that is a simple fact, and I won't apologise for it.


It's hard to be this retarded, so I don't doubt that most people aren't at the same level as you. It's hard to stoop so low.
2012-12-23 01:52:20 PM
2 votes:

BronyMedic: Vodka Zombie: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because JESUS!!!

You've got to remember the reason for the season.
[feyboy.com image 467x256]
Drunken debauched violence-filled sex for everyone.


Actually.... the real reason for the season...
scienceblogs.com
2012-12-23 08:51:24 AM
2 votes:

Vodka Zombie: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because JESUS!!!


You're right, of course. Atheists never stop to consider Jesus.
2012-12-24 09:29:11 AM
1 votes:

Mambo Bananapatch: Gyrfalcon: Why exactly is it wrong to want "Peace on earth, good will to men"?

It's not....?Quaker: ParaHandy: You can't prove a negative, ever. There is an invisible monster under your bed that only I can see.

Guest: There is a Unicorn in your kitchen.

I completely agree that either of those things could be true. I'm betting that they aren't so that is what I would base any actual decisions I make on, but I would never go as far as to say I'm absolutely sure that you're wrong about that.

I can say, with absolute certainty, that there is not an invisible monster under anybody's bed that only they can see, or that there is not a unicorn in anybody's kitchen.

If I'm proved wrong I shall, red-faced, admit it. But keeping an open mind doesn't mean you have to be stupid.


*face reddens slightly
2012-12-23 11:28:01 PM
1 votes:

Prey4reign: Here's an ironic fact about Christmas -- the man considered the George Washington of Pakistan, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, was born on December 25th, 1876.


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Coincidentally, I was just reading about this movie "Jinnah" last night. I haven't seen it, but it stars Christopher Lee and is supposed to be very good.
2012-12-23 11:24:08 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: That argument makes a lot of sense. When you live down here, you really do feel threatened just for being nonreligious and are treated as a threat by supposedly good Christians who hate you.


Judging by most of your posts I have to think that your atheism isn't number one on the "Top 10 reasons people hate GAT_00"
2012-12-23 10:40:15 PM
1 votes:
The Lord God created cancer. Please remember the reason for the season and pray for cancer. There are so many false Christians trying to destroy Gods creation. Why do you hate God, cancer, and baby Jesus?
"like" if you want cancer and Jesus in your life
2012-12-23 09:39:48 PM
1 votes:

Harry_Seldon: DaCaptain19: Religion has been the most destructive force since the beginning of mankind.

That is probably incorrect. Humans must have gained some survival advantage through the development of religion, or those mental functions related to a propensity towards religious cultural development.


Well, we both have different opinions and I'll respect yours. My comment was directed at the genocide of societies decreed by "God" pre Jesus time. I actually spent decades as a "christian" and I know a LOT about the Bible.

So societies existing "B.C." slaughtered entire populations based on "Gods" command.

And of course we have - in relatively modern day - the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. That was my only point.

I'm not sure what the evolutionary advantage of religion could be. The "constructive" aspects of religion are curiously discussed by Karl Marx, who most people believe said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" - a mis-quote which - in it's entirety, below. Note that Marx shows religion to be a false - but beneficial - system of belief:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." - Karl Marx.

So you can see that Marx actually is advocating "religion" as an effective (but false) means for humans to have solace from the world (at his time)...people were seen to be economically depressed, etc. so in his mind, religion is the "opiate" that helps people find (illusory) happiness.

It would be GOOD, according to Marx, if happiness could be found in the absence of religion, but he recognizes that - for now - religion will be that false happiness.
2012-12-23 07:32:43 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: I don't get "angry atheists". If I had time for horseshiat like religion, I'd join one of the more profitable ones and get paid for it. I don't. And I don't have time, energy, or inclination to go around deliberately riling up the stupidest, most ignorant, and most violent people in our culture.
F**k you, angry atheists - when you deliberately provoke killer apes, you deserve to get your face bitten off.
But I would like to thank you for making life more difficult and unpleasant for normal non-believers like me - in fact, I'd like to thank your face with an aluminum softball bat.


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2012-12-23 06:34:39 PM
1 votes:

bunner: We used to make stuff.

We used to establish things.

Now, we just want our chance to shave a little off of what's already in place, before there's nothing left to shave.

Now, we just want to body check all the people who engage in that which we do not believe or care for out of the way so the trappings can be about US! Get that baby out of that bathwater! It's OUR turn! *snort* We're a nation of sociocultural cowbirds.


and by we you mean...

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2012-12-23 06:26:22 PM
1 votes:

LisaNeedsBraces: Tyranicle: I'm a WASP athiest, so therefore I have no problem with religion, Christmas, Santa Clause, etc. As a madder of fact, I love Christmas. These 'athiest' who have a problem with traditional wester culture, I.e 'white' culture are mainly jews.

Trolling troll goes a-trollin'?



bestuff.com
He trolled...poorly.
2012-12-23 06:22:41 PM
1 votes:

bunner: So far, all I see is a lot of dismissive snorting, arrogant authority postures, some pretty nebulous science and straight off the ready to wear rack trolling. I do have the advantage of expecting nothing else, though. Nobody knows, folks. That's the adventure.


Yeah, it makes it hard to discuss anything with someone who petulantly dismisses everything shown to him and insists on acting like a child when discussing things.

Sorry, actual researched, observable, existing facts have more power and relevance than impossible-to-prove gods who you can attribute anything to and say anything about to make your opinions seem true.

letrole: ParaHandy: so nearly all of it is moving away from us faster than the speed of light
letrole: wat
ParaHandy: No, really it's true. Would I troll a trole?

It's a crock, like dark matter. Pure conjecture. Frankly, the numbers don't add up. So as a matter of faith, two cheats are used: the idea that space itself expands, and that the majority of the universe is missing in the form of purposely scare-quoted "dark matter".


Yep, the only reason they called it "dark matter" was for the scariness. Not because it's, you know, DARK as in "no light or color". For someone who dismisses science so much, you sure seem to know the intimate details of it and the minds of scientists.
2012-12-23 05:52:19 PM
1 votes:
ParaHandy: Quantum mechanics sounds just as fanciful as religion - even Einstein famously said "God does not play dice". However, it became established science, and so he changed his position. In later life, he also became an atheist.


"Anybody else feel like they shouldn't have worn a jumper today?"
-- Albert Einstein, burning in Hell

"It's not the humidity, it's the infernal heat that makes it so hot".
-- Albert Einstein, adjusting a broken thermostat whilst burning in Hell

"How's it going, Hitler?"
-- Albert Einstein, making friends whilst burning in Hell.

"What I wouldn't give for a single drop of cool water right now. Or maybe an Eskimo Pie."
-- Albert Einstein, peckish whilst burning in Hell.

"At least that self-important coont Oppenheimer's not here. Not yet".
-- Albert Einstein, contemplating ways it could be worse whilst burning in Hell

"Could God make a rock so big that He couldn't lift it? Ha, answer that!"
-- Albert Einstein, losing his classic understated wit and then just revelling in smug atheist circle-jerkery whilst burning in Hell.
2012-12-23 05:41:21 PM
1 votes:

bunner: They are. Nothing turning into everything is just as ludicrous as some big guy with a beard knocking together a petri dish with us in it. It really, really is. The fact that you need to rabidly attack me with false assertions, strawmen ("Oh so you're saying that...") IS a strawman, kid) and to equate being annoying and insulting with some sort of intellectual acuity got boring about 20 posts ago. Kid. And frankly, nothing says "Um, this guy is a little too worked up about this" like being a rabid, pushy dolt. It's an absolute plastic bag over the head of anything like a self evidently valid argument, Ask anybody who has chased Mormons away from his door. So... here is where I shut your silly ass off and the universe continues to do whatever it's doing and you say "z0mG!11 I am s0 teh W1N cause he had to like IGNOR3 ME!" You get the feeling I've sat through this movie before? : )


It's so much goddamned fun playing chess with someone who only knows the rules for checkers.
2012-12-23 05:37:23 PM
1 votes:

Tyranicle: I'm a WASP athiest, so therefore I have no problem with religion, Christmas, Santa Clause, etc. As a madder of fact, I love Christmas. These 'athiest' who have a problem with traditional wester culture, I.e 'white' culture are mainly jews.


That started weird and went downhill fast.
2012-12-23 05:17:52 PM
1 votes:

letrole: gad: Atheists are doing what they need to do to be heard and to gain some position in the society.

bunner: So stop trying to get a gold star from the people you insist oppress and loathe you. It makes you look silly.

Atheists demand respect and expect acceptance of their beliefs. Atheists feel dirty inside. All the anger, the forced arrogance, the belligerence -- it's simply shame turned inside out.


You're cute
2012-12-23 04:56:58 PM
1 votes:

Iron Felix: Atheists who try to get all up in peoples' faces about it are just as bad as religious nuts who try to get all up in peoples' faces abut it.


I don't think I've ever heard that point made before. Certainly not here.
2012-12-23 03:35:46 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: When you live down here, you really do feel threatened just for being nonreligious and are treated as a threat by supposedly good Christians who hate you.


I've been agnostic, and indifferent to religion, and religious holidays for 35 years. I don't go to people's christmas gatherings, don't participate in the office shindig, etc. I've never, ever, ever, even once, felt threatened or treated wrongly because of my lack of belief.

If people hate you, it may just be because of your personality. It is at least an explanation you should strongly consider.
2012-12-23 03:14:09 PM
1 votes:
Abox: Just a Farker asking a question. One you can't answer apparently.
letrole:True Wisdom is revealed not by a man's answers
Abox: No but true idiocy sometimes is.


Then you must be a communist then.
2012-12-23 03:03:39 PM
1 votes:

Fade2black: Any Atheist already took that medal home.



Lets look at some real bravery at work.

www.csmonitor.com

/This, you pansy assed Atheists, is what being brave is. Go walk yourself into the lions den like the WBC, and then maybe I'll think you're brave.
2012-12-23 02:56:44 PM
1 votes:

Repo Man: whatshisname: david_gaithersburg: On the bright side, we can take some enjoyment in the fact that a number of these evangelical atheist will off themselves at some point between now and Valentine's Day.

WTF?

He seems to be under the impression that we're having a Who Can Be The Biggest Asshole contest on Fark, and he's going for gold.


Any Atheist troll in this thread already took that medal home about 10 minutes ago.
2012-12-23 02:54:44 PM
1 votes:

whatshisname: david_gaithersburg: On the bright side, we can take some enjoyment in the fact that a number of these evangelical atheist will off themselves at some point between now and Valentine's Day.

WTF?


He seems to be under the impression that we're having a Who Can Be The Biggest Asshole contest on Fark, and he's going for gold.
2012-12-23 02:30:45 PM
1 votes:
Yeah brave atheists, go go go. Brave atheists keep up the work.

Next up, start the war on muslim holiday, go to a mosque and draw pictures of mocking Mohammed.

yeah, brave atheists go do that.
2012-12-23 02:27:44 PM
1 votes:
Noncombatants killed and injured when atheists attack agnostic stronghold...said no headline ever.
2012-12-23 02:20:14 PM
1 votes:
Give me a call the next time an angry mob of atheists burns someone to death because of their religion.

Anyone claiming atheism is a religion is a farking retard. Period. End of story.
2012-12-23 02:18:31 PM
1 votes:

bunner: I AM NOT GOING TO STAND FOR ALL OF THIS STAMP COLLECTING! STAMP COLLECTORS ARE IDIOTS AND YOU CAN'T COLLECT STAMPS WITHIN 500 FEET OF ME!


Get it?


Good straw man. It's more like "stop using public lands and resources to advocate and subsidize stamp collecting. Stop giving stamp collector shops tax exempt status when they use that money to lobby for stamp collecting regulation repeal. Also, I'm tired of getting shiat from stamp collectors for not collecting stamps. My self worth is not determined by your stamp almanac."
2012-12-23 02:15:21 PM
1 votes:

Deep Contact: Shazam999: I wonder if atheists know that many churches contain a great amount of really nice, easy pussy. Nice young pussy too.

That's why priests work there.


Pfft, they ain't after the pussy.
2012-12-23 02:13:49 PM
1 votes:
I'd actually be an atheist if I could somehow muster that kind of deep, unquestioning faith that I was absolutely, infallibly right and there were no other possibilities.
2012-12-23 02:12:27 PM
1 votes:
guitarsandaudio.com
2012-12-23 02:12:24 PM
1 votes:
If I can't see the nativity scene at the public park while I'm driving to Walmart to support CHRISTmas, my religion will collapse!
2012-12-23 02:07:46 PM
1 votes:

Gato Blanco: It's like saying stamp collecting is a hobby, therefore not collecting stamps is also a hobby.


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I AM NOT GOING TO STAND FOR ALL OF THIS STAMP COLLECTING! STAMP COLLECTORS ARE IDIOTS AND YOU CAN'T COLLECT STAMPS WITHIN 500 FEET OF ME!


Get it?
2012-12-23 02:03:47 PM
1 votes:

The One True TheDavid: St_Francis_P:

And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Speaking as a religion-hating atheist, I really don't care what people believe. What bothers me being beaten up by commercialism: I'd rather those few "Christians" who really care about the alleged birthday of their man-god do all they can to make the yearly shopping frenzy unfashionable.

Have your candlelit services, pass out Advent calendars, pray in public (as long as its voluntary: you don't want us to force you NOT to pray, do you?), wish each other (and even me) any goddamn thing you want, but for chrissake stop shopping if you truly love Jesus! You're welcome to picket against "Xmas shopping" in the public areas of shopping malls: I'll defend to the death your right to do so, I might even join you with a sign reading "An atheist against Xmas SHOPPING." And hey, if anarchists can break windows at Starbuck's then y'all can trash a Macy's for all I care. As long as you don't make celebrating the birth of your savior mandatory, please please please contrast religious observance with all that worship of Mammon.

And don't get me started on the goyification of Hanukkah. If there is no Jewish holiday where gift-giving is holy then there are always a few hundred secular days to do it on: every Jew has a birthday, for example, even if s/he's not the messiah.

SHOP LESS, PRAY MORE!


Wow, the wargarbble is strong in this one. You really need a hobby.
2012-12-23 01:58:48 PM
1 votes:

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: UsikFark: Man, I want Christmas sex. Stupid protestant moral crusaders.

I hear subby's mom is available.


I don't do charity.
2012-12-23 01:51:30 PM
1 votes:
Here's an ironic fact about Christmas -- the man considered the George Washington of Pakistan, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, was born on December 25th, 1876.
2012-12-23 01:51:10 PM
1 votes:

Gosling: telling all who will listen of the benefits of atheism, trying to convert people to atheism


If that's your criteria for a religion, just about everything is a religion. Every product advertised on your TV is a religion, here's the benefits of the Ford Focus and why you should convert from your stupid Toyota.
gad
2012-12-23 01:49:39 PM
1 votes:
The only people who 'must be stopped' are people who don't like the beliefs of others and who think they 'must be stopped' - Atheists are doing what they need to do to be heard and to gain some position in the society. Rather than continuing to let the religious folks define atheists and telling their children that atheists are bad and evil, we're out there befuddling fundamentalists by our existence and by our being normal folks - putting the lie to the hate mongering of religious folks. Like gay marriage and democrats - you all need to just learn to deal with us all not being like you and not hiding in the corner or the closet where you can slander us all with impunity.
2012-12-23 01:43:01 PM
1 votes:
All the bible thumpers need to do is to have a miracle occur during prime time viewing hours.
2012-12-23 01:41:56 PM
1 votes:
Can't we all just get along shut the fark up about it already?
2012-12-23 01:40:41 PM
1 votes:
Enjoy your stay in hades...
2012-12-23 01:02:07 PM
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because JESUS!!!


You've got to remember the reason for the season.

feyboy.com

Drunken debauched violence-filled sex for everyone.
2012-12-23 10:03:25 AM
1 votes:
swaniefrmreddeerDoesn't sound like they're much fun after all. I don't think I will take another look. Thanks!
2012-12-23 09:28:33 AM
1 votes:

swaniefrmreddeer: fungelicals


Fun evangelicals? Do they have cake, play games, have great picnics with clowns and stuff?

I may have to take another look at this Christianity thing...
2012-12-23 08:50:55 AM
1 votes:
Hey, Christians. Rampant commercialism destroyed Christmas long before atheists even bothered to care.
 
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