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(Salon)   Some of the "bravest atheists in the country" are waging a war on Christmas. And they must be stopped   (salon.com) divider line 592
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2012-12-23 02:42:02 PM  

letrole: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.
Abox: I don't believe in anything unfalsifiable. Is that a religion?
letrole: Another Karl Popper weenie.
Abox: You didn't answer the question.

Are you Yoda? Are you The Riddler? Are you YAKPW - Yet Another Karl Popper Weenie?



Just a Farker asking a question. One you can't answer apparently.
 
2012-12-23 02:42:06 PM  

Gato Blanco: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.

Le Troll, eh? I'll bite anyway, I"m bored.

Christianity is a religion. Theism is a belief in a deity, a trait many religions have.

Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. Some religions are atheistic, but atheism itself is not a religion. It's like saying stamp collecting is a hobby, therefore not collecting stamps is also a hobby.


Thank you Penn Gillette.

If you're going to be a douche, don't be a plagiarizing douche.
 
2012-12-23 02:42:23 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Says somebody who would never, ever complain about billboards with Atheist sayings.


Would not give a polly wolly doo dah f*ck, actually. Can't be anymore offensive than 1-800 insurance ads. Broad stroke assumptions, how do they work?

Give it a rest; we've heard this song and dance many, many times before.

Who's "we". motherf*cker? : ) I think that one's called an appeal to the masses. AND with a bonus posture of authority. You sound like somebody's cranky maiden aunt. Did you know?
 
2012-12-23 02:42:56 PM  

JerseyTim: I think the real takeaway from this article is that, once again, the heavily-populated areas of this country are the best places to live.


somebody doesn't drive a stick, or like nature
 
2012-12-23 02:43:51 PM  
As an Agnostic with Neo-Pagan sympathies, I've grown tired of how the various crimes against common sense committed by certain Abrahamic fundamentalists are presumed to be, by some Atheists, the fundamental traits of anyone who purports to be religious. The moral code of a Druid, for example, is quite staunchly against any form of bigotry, misogyny, or dogmatic disbelief in the fundamental principles of nature.
 
2012-12-23 02:44:41 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: It's not faith, it's knowlege. It's what you can prove.


I'm pretty sure you have to take a ton of shiat that other people prove on faith, since you can't possibly understand how to prove it on your own.
 
2012-12-23 02:45:00 PM  

Now I Is!: As an Agnostic with Neo-Pagan sympathies


I only listen to post muse hip hop grungebilly rap polkas.
 
2012-12-23 02:45:11 PM  

fluffy2097: ParaHandy: Most people aren't as smart as me, that is a simple fact, and I won't apologise for it.

It's hard to be this retarded, so I don't doubt that most people aren't at the same level as you. It's hard to stoop so low.


In your world view, since I don't respect sky fairies I am not smart. OK, that's your world view. It doesn't make it real.

I'm not stooping low ... I am challenging your mistaken beliefs. They are very ridiculous, and I am very blunt. If that makes you feel insulted or uncomfortable, stop believing ridiculous nonsense. Politely turning a blind eye to your delusion only works when it doesn't affect others.

Imagine you live somewhere hot like Florida, and have an elderly Korean visiting you. At what point do you stop him from running around turning off the ceiling fans?
 
2012-12-23 02:46:01 PM  
Abox: Just a Farker asking a question. One you can't answer apparently.

True Wisdom is revealed not by a man's answers, but rather by his questions. Your questioning reveals an unfocused frustration that is expressed a bit better than "oh yeah? sez you", but not by much.

Would it be questionable for me to question your line of questioning? That Sir, is the question.
 
2012-12-23 02:46:15 PM  
How did Atheists manage to go about their daily lives for the past hundreds of years before these Wars on Christmas started? THE HUGE MANATEE!!!

Or you could be some seculiar sect of the douchebag liberal "i'm a victim" by proxy. Either way even Penn Jillette thinks most Atheists act like retards.
 
2012-12-23 02:46:24 PM  

ten foiled hats: Prey4reign: ParaHandy: Prey4reign: Here's an ironic fact about Christmas -- the man considered the George Washington of Pakistan, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, was born on December 25th, 1876.

Isaac Newton, one the most famous scientists ever, was also born on Xmas day.

So we're Jimmy Buffett and Shane McGowan.

We're both, because Newton's b-day? Little crowded in here. ;)


Word should have been were. Farking fumble fingers.
 
2012-12-23 02:46:44 PM  

Quaker: Fark Dupp: [guitarsandaudio.com image 500x375]

I disagree. No one can really know whether or not there's a god, so acting like you're absolutely sure about it one way or the other is a belief. To use your analogy, having the TV off would be someone who doesn't think about and/or care whether or not there's a god.


You can't prove a negative, ever. There is an invisible monster under your bed that only I can see.
 
2012-12-23 02:47:14 PM  

ParaHandy: In your world view, since I don't respect sky fairies I am not smart. OK, that's your world view. It doesn't make it real.

I'm not stooping low ... I am challenging your mistaken beliefs. They are very ridiculous, and I am very blunt. If that makes you feel insulted or uncomfortable, stop believing ridiculous nonsense. Politely turning a blind eye to your delusion only works when it doesn't affect others.

Imagine you live somewhere hot like Florida, and have an elderly Korean visiting you. At what point do you stop him from running around turning off the ceiling fans?


t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-23 02:47:54 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-23 02:49:13 PM  
'Tis the season!

NSFW Link

/Merry XXXmas!
 
2012-12-23 02:51:18 PM  
Now I Is! The moral code of a Druid, for example, is quite staunchly against any form of bigotry, misogyny, or dogmatic disbelief in the fundamental principles of nature.


Off to good and inclusive start, but then they lose points with the bit concerning human sacrifices and playing football with the skulls of the enemy killed in battle.
 
2012-12-23 02:51:38 PM  
Anti-Xmas shopping sign suggestions:


Shop if you hate Jesus

A graphic: a cross with that "No" circle-&-slash next to a big dollar sign with rays

Xmas shopping helps atheists win

Tempted to pray? Shop instead!

Shop if you worship Santa

Another graphic: Jesus with that "No" circle-&-slash next to a Santa

Why go to church when you can go SHOPPING

Keep on serving Mammon

(And so on.)

And I should have made tshirthell.com pay me for "Ask me about explosive diarrhea!" but I hereby release the above anti-Xmas slogans into the public domain.
 
2012-12-23 02:52:09 PM  

Prey4reign: ParaHandy: Prey4reign: Here's an ironic fact about Christmas -- the man considered the George Washington of Pakistan, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, was born on December 25th, 1876.

Isaac Newton, one the most famous scientists ever, was also born on Xmas day.

So we're Jimmy Buffett and Shane McGowan.


True. However, science is the true enemy of religion, because it's science that demystifies and debunks religious myths.

Pakistan is a religious state itself, and their official state religion worships the same monotheistic sky fairy that the Christians do. But "the details of my myth are better than the details of your myth" is a reason for terrorism (I'd include the Crusades) and wars. This kind of stuff is why many atheists no longer see religions as harmless affectations (unlike fan death) and see them as causing more harm than good.
 
2012-12-23 02:54:44 PM  

whatshisname: david_gaithersburg: On the bright side, we can take some enjoyment in the fact that a number of these evangelical atheist will off themselves at some point between now and Valentine's Day.

WTF?


He seems to be under the impression that we're having a Who Can Be The Biggest Asshole contest on Fark, and he's going for gold.
 
2012-12-23 02:55:32 PM  

Prey4reign: ten foiled hats: Prey4reign: ParaHandy: Prey4reign: Here's an ironic fact about Christmas -- the man considered the George Washington of Pakistan, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, was born on December 25th, 1876.

Isaac Newton, one the most famous scientists ever, was also born on Xmas day.

So we're Jimmy Buffett and Shane McGowan.

We're both, because Newton's b-day? Little crowded in here. ;)

Word should have been were. Farking fumble fingers.


No worries. Just here enjoying some popcorn, anyway.
 
2012-12-23 02:56:40 PM  
Unlikely. The atheists I know are the most loyal, benevolent, and apathetic toward Christmas people I know.
 
2012-12-23 02:56:44 PM  

Repo Man: whatshisname: david_gaithersburg: On the bright side, we can take some enjoyment in the fact that a number of these evangelical atheist will off themselves at some point between now and Valentine's Day.

WTF?

He seems to be under the impression that we're having a Who Can Be The Biggest Asshole contest on Fark, and he's going for gold.


Any Atheist troll in this thread already took that medal home about 10 minutes ago.
 
2012-12-23 03:00:05 PM  

bunner: ParaHandy: In your world view, since I don't respect sky fairies I am not smart. OK, that's your world view. It doesn't make it real.

I'm not stooping low ... I am challenging your mistaken beliefs. They are very ridiculous, and I am very blunt. If that makes you feel insulted or uncomfortable, stop believing ridiculous nonsense. Politely turning a blind eye to your delusion only works when it doesn't affect others.

Imagine you live somewhere hot like Florida, and have an elderly Korean visiting you. At what point do you stop him from running around turning off the ceiling fans?

[t2.gstatic.com image 224x192]


I like to use the Korean Fan Death Myth as an example of ridiculous belief because it is very accessible. It's just as widely believed by the elderly in Korea as Christianity is believed by the elderly in the USA.

Moral of the story: reality is not a popularity contest. Just because 100m Americans believe in some kind of deity does not make it so.

Something I didn't note earlier ... religious faith is strongly correlated with being older, less intelligent and less educated. I leave you to draw your own conclusions.
 
2012-12-23 03:00:16 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-23 03:00:18 PM  
Sorry atheists, but I really don't understand the POUTRAGE!

WTF do you care?

i1121.photobucket.com

^ What "activist atheists" might look like ^
 
2012-12-23 03:01:41 PM  

12349876: Gosling: telling all who will listen of the benefits of atheism, trying to convert people to atheism

If that's your criteria for a religion, just about everything is a religion. Every product advertised on your TV is a religion, here's the benefits of the Ford Focus and why you should convert from your stupid Toyota.


Because consumerism is the only REAL religion.

/we worship the almighty dollar

//all of us
 
2012-12-23 03:01:48 PM  
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-23 03:01:48 PM  

letrole: Abox: Just a Farker asking a question. One you can't answer apparently.

True Wisdom is revealed not by a man's answers



No but true idiocy sometimes is.
 
2012-12-23 03:02:56 PM  

The One True TheDavid: vpb:

"Here's the bottom line: Where religion is weak, atheism is weak" in its intensity, says Pitzer sociologist Phil Zuckerman. "Where religion is strong, atheism is strong."

This organized Atheism thing is just a reaction to obnoxious bible thumpers.

True enough.

But there are areas where atheist commies and bible-thumpers can cooperate: crusading against Xmas shopping is one. Nobody who truly loves Jesus would be caught dead shopping on Black Friday, let alone Thanksgiving. Do you worship Jesus or Geoffrey the Giraffe?

Please please please make Christmas a religious holiday again.


How about no? Fact is, it never really was. The rampant commercialism of the season very likely predates ole JHC himself. The ancient Romans, Greeks and Persians were busy buying one another expensive trinkets around this time of year, in addition to feasting and drinking copious amounts of wine, mead, beer, and what-have-you. All you god-bothering or -shunning killjoys, keep your hands off my winter celebrations!

/atheist
//don't care what you believe or don't believe
///just as long as you aren't a dick about it
 
2012-12-23 03:03:39 PM  

Fade2black: Any Atheist already took that medal home.



Lets look at some real bravery at work.

www.csmonitor.com

/This, you pansy assed Atheists, is what being brave is. Go walk yourself into the lions den like the WBC, and then maybe I'll think you're brave.
 
2012-12-23 03:03:46 PM  

Vodka Zombie: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because JESUS!!!


Jesus may be the only thing keeping those people from going on a shooting rampage.
 
2012-12-23 03:03:50 PM  

Amos Quito: Sorry atheists, but I really don't understand the POUTRAGE!

WTF do you care?

[i1121.photobucket.com image 496x484]

^ What "activist atheists" might look like ^


People's beliefs have an effect on what they do and how they stand on issues. Beliefs don't exist in a vacuum, they aren't cordoned off in some corner somewhere where it's all happy fun time and anyone can believe anything they want without it having any impact on others. That's why we care.
 
2012-12-23 03:04:20 PM  

Fade2black: How did Atheists manage to go about their daily lives for the past hundreds of years before these Wars on Christmas started? THE HUGE MANATEE!!!

Or you could be some seculiar sect of the douchebag liberal "i'm a victim" by proxy. Either way even Penn Jillette thinks most Atheists act like retards.


They managed because they kept it to themselves and pretended to be good little Christians or whatever the dominant religion of the area was. If they didn't, they would've been ran out of town or killed.

There are assholes in every crowd, and I'm sure there are athiests out there that despise Christmas and want it completely destroyed. Most of us just want the constitution upheld. Religion is for church. Nativity scenes and other religious displays do not belong on public property. Outside of that, Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and whatever else is going on in December/January.
 
2012-12-23 03:04:30 PM  

GranoblasticMan: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.

Religion is an Atheism.


Cheeses is Lard.

/Put that one in your pipe and smoke it.
 
2012-12-23 03:05:02 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: bunner: Get it?

Yea, I get it:

"Waaaaaaaaahhhhh people get annoyed with me for trying to constantly throw my personal magical beliefs in their face and IT'S SO UNFAIR I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO LISTEN OR USE THEIR MONEY TO DO IT!"

I'll be sure to remember your idiotic post the next time some religious loon is on my front step bothering me about their stupid beliefs or standing on the curb outside my office littering the place with their stupid little pamphlets. Or some nut is marching up and down the street with a sign telling me god is going to make me burn if I don't go to church.

Which will be some time this week since it's farking constant.



You sound martyr-ish.
 
2012-12-23 03:05:26 PM  

bunner: Now I Is!: As an Agnostic with Neo-Pagan sympathies

I only listen to post muse hip hop grungebilly rap polkas.


Actually, I have no real prejudices music subgenres. I find most any style has at least one composer worth listing to.
 
2012-12-23 03:06:15 PM  
Just to clarify, I do see positive aspects to some organized religion - the Church of Scotland in the village has been a great community for my dad since my mother passed away. Many people do very positive and generous things due to values espoused by their religions.

My pragmatic objection to religion is that with all the wars and political headaches religious differences cause; it does more harm than good; my philosophical one is that it's false, and we shouldn't lie to our kids - I hope to be a parent one day, and things like Santa are going to give me a real headache. You can't tell a bright 7 year old that Santa isn't real and have them spoil the fun for their classmates, nor is it fair exclude them from participating in such a universal childhood ritual.
 
2012-12-23 03:06:57 PM  

Molavian: Darth_Lukecash: It's not faith, it's knowlege. It's what you can prove.

I'm pretty sure you have to take a ton of shiat that other people prove on faith, since you can't possibly understand how to prove it on your own.


I have no understanding of computer programming and electronics. Yet here I am typing to you from my phone.

I have hard evidence that science works. I also know from evidence that science can be wrong due to lack of information or misinterpretation.

Why? Because of all of mans intellectual tools, science always demands proof- not faith.
 
2012-12-23 03:07:05 PM  

Now I Is!: bunner: Now I Is!: As an Agnostic with Neo-Pagan sympathies

I only listen to post muse hip hop grungebilly rap polkas.

Actually, I have no real prejudices toward music subgenres. I find most any style has at least one composer worth listening to.


FTFM
 
2012-12-23 03:07:07 PM  
So does being a Christian mean that one enjoys being barraged by Christmas ads starting in late November and constant shiatty muzak-style Christmas music in all public spaces? Cause I like Christmas a lot but that shiat is intolerable. No one is saying to cancel Christmas, but if I was a Muslim or Jewish or something, I would feel pretty left out for the a month and a half of the calender year.
 
2012-12-23 03:08:27 PM  
I'm an athiest who loves Christmas. In my family, it involves family time, seeing people I haven't seen for a while (because they live far away, not because I don't like them!), gifts, eating, and playing games. Plus my beloved days off of work. The only one who prays or even THINKS of Jesus is my semi-fundy MIL. And her 30 seconds of prayer before Christmas dinner does not bother me...

Until someone starts forcing me to pray or go to church or decides to stop and beat me on the street for not believing I am not going to care.
 
2012-12-23 03:08:28 PM  

had98c: Amos Quito: Sorry atheists, but I really don't understand the POUTRAGE!

WTF do you care?

[i1121.photobucket.com image 496x484]

^ What "activist atheists" might look like ^

People's beliefs have an effect on what they do and how they stand on issues. Beliefs don't exist in a vacuum, they aren't cordoned off in some corner somewhere where it's all happy fun time and anyone can believe anything they want without it having any impact on others. That's why we care.


So you're saying that you are trying to stamp out belief systems that might be in conflict with your political agenda?
 
2012-12-23 03:13:06 PM  

gerrymander: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because they're douchebags trying to stop a reason to party. They want to destroy other people's fun, for no better reason than 'the character is fictional'.

Imagine a world where people everywhere celebrated 'Harry Potter's Birthday', and parents decorated their houses in Hogwarts dioramas and lit-up Whomping Willows, and the kids got gifts from a guy dressed as Dumbledore. Now imagine how big of an a-hole you'd need to be to complain that the parties should stop because 'Harry Potter' doesn't exist, and to erect billboards mocking Harry Potter's Birthday parties. Well, that's how these 'atheist' (more accurately, 'anti-theists') look.



Do your hypothetical HPB celebrants publicly proclaim that all HPB noncelebrants are agents of Voldemort, or kill each other over whether Richard Harris or Michael Gambon was the true Dumbledore?

Your example is just Christmas without the Christ-y stuff.
 
2012-12-23 03:13:12 PM  

spidermilk: I'm an athiest who loves Christmas. In my family, it involves family time, seeing people I haven't seen for a while (because they live far away, not because I don't like them!), gifts, eating, and playing games. Plus my beloved days off of work. The only one who prays or even THINKS of Jesus is my semi-fundy MIL. And her 30 seconds of prayer before Christmas dinner does not bother me...

Until someone starts forcing me to pray or go to church or decides to stop and beat me on the street for not believing I am not going to care.


This
 
2012-12-23 03:13:26 PM  

Buffalo77: Yeah brave atheists, go go go. Brave atheists keep up the work.

Next up, start the war on muslim holiday, go to a mosque and draw pictures of mocking Mohammed.

yeah, brave atheists go do that.


Done

Next?
 
2012-12-23 03:13:49 PM  

2 Replies: BronyMedic: Vodka Zombie: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because JESUS!!!

You've got to remember the reason for the season.
[feyboy.com image 467x256]
Drunken debauched violence-filled sex for everyone.

Actually.... the real reason for the season...
[scienceblogs.com image 500x399]


goooolie you goin to burn in hell for that one!
 
2012-12-23 03:14:09 PM  
Abox: Just a Farker asking a question. One you can't answer apparently.
letrole:True Wisdom is revealed not by a man's answers
Abox: No but true idiocy sometimes is.


Then you must be a communist then.
 
2012-12-23 03:16:01 PM  

Cheesus: I'm sure there are athiests out there that despise Christmas and want it completely destroyed. Most of us just want the constitution upheld.


That's a good laugh.

/r/atheism regularly talks about how much better the world will be when the final solution of getting rid of all religion is implemented.
 
2012-12-23 03:16:48 PM  

gerrymander: St_Francis_P: And they must be stopped

Uhm...why?

Because they're douchebags trying to stop a reason to party. They want to destroy other people's fun, for no better reason than 'the character is fictional'.

Imagine a world where people everywhere celebrated 'Harry Potter's Birthday', and parents decorated their houses in Hogwarts dioramas and lit-up Whomping Willows, and the kids got gifts from a guy dressed as Dumbledore. Now imagine how big of an a-hole you'd need to be to complain that the parties should stop because 'Harry Potter' doesn't exist, and to erect billboards mocking Harry Potter's Birthday parties. Well, that's how these 'atheist' (more accurately, 'anti-theists') look.


Your analogy is lacking ... imagine if they told the kids that Harry Potter was real, and controlled the whole universe. That Harry Potter and Dumbledore and the floating guy played by John Cleese are the same person. What if they insisted that the local school have a dark arts and magic class, and your kid was graded on it? What if they came and took your cat and ritually killed it, because cats are familiars of dark witches?
 
2012-12-23 03:17:14 PM  

RexTalionis: Hey, Christians. Rampant commercialism destroyed Christmas long before atheists even bothered to care.


Bears repeating. And repeating and repeating and repeating.
 
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