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(Courier Mail)   This holiday season, don't feed your pet chocolate, avocados, turkey skin, pork crackling, sausages and other fatty meats, onions, garlic, grapes, raisins, macadamia nuts, or barbecue oil   (couriermail.com.au ) divider line
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2012-12-23 11:21:26 AM  

FormlessOne: WGJ: My little brother wanted a cat for Christmas. He was told he would have turkey with the rest of us.

I keep arguing with my wife over whether our cat is a "pettin' kitten" or an "eatin' kitten." She, predictably, takes the former stance, while I regularly suggest the latter position. If I could just get her to try a little catatouille, I know she'd enjoy it...


They must be tasty. How could a billion plus people be wrong?
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2012-12-23 11:31:39 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: My cat won't shut up. Constant meowing between 9PM and 10PM, then between 4:30am and 6:30am. She wakes me up, but worse yet, she wakes the babies. She does not leave me alone and constantly gets under my feet. I hope to no longer have a cat soon, but she is only 6, she is healthy as I only feed her Science Diet. The only people food she likes is chocolate - cake and brownies. I dont let her have them. I'm nice to her and good to her, but she drives me up a wall.
Recently I made a cake for my wifes birthday and she knocked it off the table in hopes that she could eat it. I covered it well. No cake.

/If you want a cat with the aforementioned traits, only plays with her claws out, and swats every visitor, inquire within. She is kind of sweet but loud, and you will bleed.


Sounds like my dad's old Siamese. That cat was feisty and opinionated. It once walked across an entire birthday cake, swatted my mom's grandma when she sat in the cat's chair while visiting, and trapped my mom's brother in the bathroom by hissing and growing in the hallway until someone came to the rescue.
 
2012-12-23 11:32:56 AM  
This holiday season, don't feed your pet chocolate, avocados
Only because of the peel right?

turkey skin, pork crackling
Wat.

sausages and other fatty meats
So no avocado because of the fat? Confused.

onions, garlic, grapes, raisins, macadamia nuts, or barbecue oil
Ok obviously that's too much fat, and maybe the Macs too?
 
2012-12-23 11:37:53 AM  
My cats like cheerios. Weird little shiats.
 
2012-12-23 11:44:43 AM  
My cat likes ham and bacon. I guess I've been doing it wrong. I do raw feed though.
 
2012-12-23 11:48:03 AM  

Left-Handed Spatula: My cat loves the smell of chocolate. Whenever I have chocolate anything out, she comes over to investigate and won't go away until it's gone, however many times she gets shoo'ed away or squirted with the water bottle. Just recently she knocked over a glass of chocolate milk when my back was turned, had to be given an emergency bath, and kept trying to lick it off herself until it was washed off.


Had a cat once that LOVED chocolate milk. Also pizza crust, olives, doritos...pretty much anything I ate I shared with the cat. That cat lived for 18 years. The one I have now doesn't like people food. Tuna and raw shrimp, however, are welcomed vociferiously.
 
2012-12-23 12:07:10 PM  
This is ridiculous. Dogs eat out of the garbage and they don't sort out the onions and avocados and turkey skin...
 
2012-12-23 12:09:23 PM  

Jake Havechek: Cats will not eat sweet stuff because they don't have those taste buds, but they seem to love salty or spicy stuff.


My cat loves licking Tositos and popcorn.
 
2012-12-23 12:14:34 PM  

HillshirefarmsGOMEAT: This is ridiculous. Dogs eat out of the garbage and they don't sort out the onions and avocados and turkey skin...


Hell, my Chocolate Lab once ate an entire leftover turkey, bones and all, with no adverse effects.
 
2012-12-23 12:14:50 PM  

kendelrio: Who the hell keeps chocolate as a pet???


This made me laugh so hard I cried.
 
2012-12-23 12:22:12 PM  
The dog gets dog food. People food makes her gassy. This is now a dog fart thread.
 
2012-12-23 12:51:46 PM  
My dog says: "delicious!"
 
2012-12-23 12:51:59 PM  
I had heard peanut butter was OK but my dog kept getting hair caught in his throat.
 
2012-12-23 12:53:45 PM  

FormlessOne: abhorrent1: In before the raw food snobs. Oops, too late.

/raw diets are stupid
//Your dog wants proper nutrition

...huh? Are you suggesting that dogs cook their food before eating it?


Dogs have evolved to eat cooked meat for the same reasons people have.
 
2012-12-23 12:59:15 PM  

furnhusch: kendelrio: Who the hell keeps chocolate as a pet???

This made me laugh so hard I cried.


LOL, me too, but it is constructed properly. The comma after chocolate indicates that it is part of the list. I know, I know...

*hangs head in shame*
 
2012-12-23 01:43:51 PM  

abhorrent1: In before the raw food snobs. Oops, too late.

/raw diets are stupid
//Your dog wants proper nutrition


But you gotta love the acronym that they came up with for Bones And Raw Foods, right? Right?


/Found that one late one night after we discovered that our dog had eaten an entire turkey carcass. He was fine, a little gassy, but fine. Not like the time he ate an entire leg of lamb...including the bone. We were travelling home and staying in a motel 500 miles away when we realized that it didn't sit well.
 
2012-12-23 01:54:18 PM  
1) Give a black lab garlic
2) Unleash black lab upon unsuspecting public
3) Laugh at garlic dog fart chaos

/ noxious
 
2012-12-23 03:30:56 PM  
Does "crackling" actually have a g in it?
 
2012-12-23 03:58:00 PM  

MadameX: [i.chzbgr.com image 500x375]
/both hot and oblig


Looks just like my cat, except she only has one eye instead of two.

AND she's the barf queen around here...ugh...
 
2012-12-23 04:00:45 PM  

Medic Zero: Does "crackling" actually have a g in it?


I think is does in some parts of the country/world. Unlike highfalutin.
 
2012-12-23 05:46:57 PM  
I had a black lab as a kid, and she once ate an entire chocolate cake, frosting and all. the vet said she would be OK just make sure she had plenty of water, as the chocolate would dehydrate her. she probably drank a gallon a day for 2-3 days...

oh yeah, she lived to be 16...
 
2012-12-23 05:49:35 PM  

Mister Peejay: FormlessOne: abhorrent1: In before the raw food snobs. Oops, too late.

/raw diets are stupid
//Your dog wants proper nutrition

...huh? Are you suggesting that dogs cook their food before eating it?

Dogs have evolved to eat cooked meat for the same reasons people have.


Um... no. No, they haven't. We didn't evolve to eat cooked meat either, for that matter - in fact, you could say that we've actually slowed our evolution thanks to things like sanitation and cooking, because we no longer select for traits like an increased ability to tolerate unsanitary food or environments.

Believe it or not, there's recent evidence to suggest that cooking benefited humans not because of meat, but because of tuberous roots. Early hominids had large jaws & big teeth to deal with such foodstuffs raw - we initially evolved to eat everything raw. Once cooking became available, those structures weren't necessary - we could exploit a wider array of foodstuffs, including tuberous roots, much more easily. Cooking changed our evolution in a number of ways, but it had very little to do with eating meat and more to do with eating in general.
 
2012-12-23 06:07:05 PM  

FormlessOne: Mister Peejay: FormlessOne: abhorrent1: In before the raw food snobs. Oops, too late.

/raw diets are stupid
//Your dog wants proper nutrition

...huh? Are you suggesting that dogs cook their food before eating it?

Dogs have evolved to eat cooked meat for the same reasons people have.

Um... no. No, they haven't. We didn't evolve to eat cooked meat either, for that matter - in fact, you could say that we've actually slowed our evolution thanks to things like sanitation and cooking, because we no longer select for traits like an increased ability to tolerate unsanitary food or environments.

Believe it or not, there's recent evidence to suggest that cooking benefited humans not because of meat, but because of tuberous roots. Early hominids had large jaws & big teeth to deal with such foodstuffs raw - we initially evolved to eat everything raw. Once cooking became available, those structures weren't necessary - we could exploit a wider array of foodstuffs, including tuberous roots, much more easily. Cooking changed our evolution in a number of ways, but it had very little to do with eating meat and more to do with eating in general.


This falls back on the old fallacy that evolution has an 'end goal' or that we humans are going to evolve into supermen or something. Evolution just is.
 
2012-12-23 06:46:36 PM  

FormlessOne: Mister Peejay:
Dogs have evolved to eat cooked meat for the same reasons people have.

Um... no. No, they haven't. We didn't evolve to eat cooked meat either, for that matter - in fact, you could say that we've actually slowed our evolution thanks to things like sanitation and cooking, because we no longer select for traits like an increased ability to tolerate unsanitary food or environments.


Are you saying that humans don't have not just a tolerance, but an innate desire to eat cooked meat?

Evolution doesn't mean that the change happened so we could do something, it means the ones who could thrive in a given environment are the ones who pass their genes down. I'm sure that the first meat-burners didn't fare as well with the stuff, but look where we are today.

I'm not a dog, so I can't speak as to what they prefer, but hanging around us meat-burning humans has given them the ability to at least tolerate the stuff. They're domesticated animals and not wild animals, after all.
 
2012-12-23 07:27:22 PM  
When I was a young tyke we lived next door to a lady who had two or three of those little yip dogs, a Lhaso Asso or Biatchin Frizzy and one day one of them grabbed my chocolate bar and ran off and ate it.  Poor thing died.  We were deprived of it's yipping and that was so sad. Not.
 
dh2
2012-12-23 08:37:46 PM  
Avocados, lethal to parrots, none of the other stuff is good either, except maybe in very small accidental doses.
 
2012-12-23 09:11:19 PM  
We had a tuxedo cat who would have ripped out any one of your throats if you got between him and angel food cake. He also loved vegetables.
 
2012-12-24 01:51:07 PM  
My dog gets a little bit of what we get on the holidays because he's man's best friend - he also gets some nibbles while we're cooking.
The cat gets cat food because fark cats, feral little beasts..
 
2012-12-24 01:52:20 PM  
Also - not giving a dog skin is 'tarded. I'm pretty sure those wolves out there in the forest don't "just eat around it."
 
2012-12-24 01:52:46 PM  
I don't know if anyone is interested since this isn't really on topic, but I just got back from the vet and it seems my cat's issue is not one of the major ones, although we're not certain yet. He's home for Christmas though. Thanks to those who were concerned.
 
2012-12-24 01:59:41 PM  

FormlessOne: Mister Peejay: FormlessOne: abhorrent1: In before the raw food snobs. Oops, too late.

/raw diets are stupid
//Your dog wants proper nutrition

...huh? Are you suggesting that dogs cook their food before eating it?

Dogs have evolved to eat cooked meat for the same reasons people have.

Um... no. No, they haven't. We didn't evolve to eat cooked meat either, for that matter - in fact, you could say that we've actually slowed our evolution thanks to things like sanitation and cooking, because we no longer select for traits like an increased ability to tolerate unsanitary food or environments.

Believe it or not, there's recent evidence to suggest that cooking benefited humans not because of meat, but because of tuberous roots. Early hominids had large jaws & big teeth to deal with such foodstuffs raw - we initially evolved to eat everything raw. Once cooking became available, those structures weren't necessary - we could exploit a wider array of foodstuffs, including tuberous roots, much more easily. Cooking changed our evolution in a number of ways, but it had very little to do with eating meat and more to do with eating in general.


There are other reasons - cooked food allows for some complex carbohydrates which otherwise would "pass through" to break down and become digestable thanks to the heat. So it actually was an advantage from an energy perspective to cook food. I'd have to say that our preparation of food could almost be considered an evolved behavior. Look at raccoons - they soak their food before eating it.
 
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