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(Daily Mail)   5ft 7in tall, 171 pounds, with a chest-waist-hips ratio of 35-30-40 inches, ladies and gentlemen: 'The most nearly perfect physical specimen of womanhood' 1912 edition (Not safe for work content in article)   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 37
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2012-12-22 10:02:14 PM
9 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: ...Aaaaaand gay as Paris in Springtime.  Seriously.  There are so damn many early-20th-century lesbian dog whistles in her quotes it makes my head spin.

Women should never be afraid, fresh air and tramping through the woods, "ardent" suffragette, no mention of marriage at all, wants to take over the farm...  If she were alive today, she'd be taking her degree in gay rights activism.


Wait a minute, are you shiatting me?  Thinking women shouldn't be afraid, enjoying fresh air and walking around in the sunshine, wanting women to get the vote, and not believing their identity revolved around a husband equals being a lesbian?  WTF?  She may well have been a lesbian and she may not have been, who knows.  I just don't think enjoying walks in the sunshine makes you more apt to want to eat pussy.  I like walks in the sunshine, and I'm strictly dickly.
2012-12-22 09:44:09 PM
5 votes:
Nowadays, a woman with those measurements would be called a cow and told to lose 30 pounds.  Which is a pretty shiatty indictment on today's society.
2012-12-23 03:49:30 AM
3 votes:
www.geeksofdoom.com
/Am I really the first one to reference this?
2012-12-23 03:27:57 AM
3 votes:
I really am not attracted to really obese women, its just my preference. I am not attracted to a woman with the body like a ten speed bike ether. I want a woman not a skinny twig. This obsession with women looking like stick figures is perplexing to me.

sportsblogs.star-telegram.com

Just right!

//Hot like Christina!
2012-12-22 10:52:44 PM
3 votes:

MajorGroove: I used to get all bent out of shape about today's standards of beauty. Then I grew up, graduated from college, got out in the world, and realized that plenty of men love them some hips and some double D's. Sure, I'm a hambeast compared to runway models. But I work out on a regular basis, eat healthy, and genuinely like my body. And I'm healthy. I got nothing to complain about!


The one thing that you have to remember:

mlkshk.com
2012-12-22 10:33:10 PM
3 votes:
In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

www.blogcdn.com
2012-12-23 10:02:23 AM
2 votes:

hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]


Marilyn Monroe wasn't fat. Myth debunked. From the same shoot:

lbdarling.files.wordpress.com

It's just a meme fat girls repeat to themselves on Facebook so they can feel better about themselves.
2012-12-23 09:44:29 AM
2 votes:
look all I know is my plump great aunt lived to her early 90's and didn't go downhill until the last few months of her life. The plumpness filled out her wrinkles so she didn't look that old. No hip breakage.

meanwhile my anorexically skinny grandma broke a hip and had an unpleasant decline that lasted for several years. Also, she'd been looking more and more like Davros since she was like 65.

I would rather be plump, not look like a mummified Kaled mutant, not break a hip, and live 99.5% of my life with a reasonably functioning brain.
2012-12-23 08:37:11 AM
2 votes:
Most of this thread:

"Your body doesn't entertain/entice me as I feel it should. Change it for me."
2012-12-23 08:04:35 AM
2 votes:
Remember folks:
These are curves:
media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com

These are chunks:

www.stpetebootcamp.com

Know the difference.
2012-12-23 07:32:41 AM
2 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org
2012-12-23 04:59:24 AM
2 votes:

DanZero: Missing: 1912 equivalent of Studman69


www.majhost.com
2012-12-22 10:43:31 PM
2 votes:
I used to get all bent out of shape about today's standards of beauty. Then I grew up, graduated from college, got out in the world, and realized that plenty of men love them some hips and some double D's. Sure, I'm a hambeast compared to runway models. But I work out on a regular basis, eat healthy, and genuinely like my body. And I'm healthy. I got nothing to complain about!
2012-12-22 10:00:51 PM
2 votes:
www.theodore-roosevelt.com

Alice Roosevelt.
Smokin' hot but one false move and her daddy would gut you like the mountain lion he singlehandedly killed in 1883 or something.
2012-12-22 09:56:28 PM
2 votes:
...Aaaaaand gay as Paris in Springtime.  Seriously.  There are so damn many early-20th-century lesbian dog whistles in her quotes it makes my head spin.

Women should never be afraid, fresh air and tramping through the woods, "ardent" suffragette, no mention of marriage at all, wants to take over the farm...  If she were alive today, she'd be taking her degree in gay rights activism.
2012-12-23 11:02:01 PM
1 votes:

pciszek: Medic Zero: Just right!

//Hot like Christina!

Internet high five!

Did she get her implants after Firefly? 'Cause more recent pictures that I've seen look too...implanted.


They aren't implants, she just gained a lot of weight and her boobs got correspondingly cartoonishly proportioned.
Firefly-weight Christina:
www.manekynka.skimg547.imageshack.us

After a few seasons of Mad Men:
xaa.xanga.comi231.photobucket.com

Personally I like her at Firefly weight better.


bookman: Currently undergoing proof of concept testing on a very very small scale. If they can do it on that tiny scale, the rest is, as they say, just engineering.


That is a VERY generous assessment of the Alcubierre concept and the applicability of their testing to real life.
To do it with an actual ship still presents many possibly insurmountable problems, including requiring a theoretical type of matter that has never actually been seen before.
2012-12-23 04:22:12 PM
1 votes:

Clockwork Kumquat: NSFW probably.

I know a woman who has had a figure kind of like that. I haven't seen her since before she spent much of the value of her home on implants and liposuction and moved away. The opinion of myself and most of her friends was that handing that body over to a guy with a knife in an operating room was like giving that painting to a child with a box of crayons, but I guess she was seeing something different in the mirror than we were.


Oh, god, Bouguereau. While all of his women are adorable, this is his best: NSF Work or Girlfriends
2012-12-23 01:16:05 PM
1 votes:

LordBollocks: cryinoutloud: [lh3.googleusercontent.com image 344x512]
What does it say on page 861 ??


lh5.googleusercontent.com

lh4.googleusercontent.com
2012-12-23 07:37:53 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]


She wasn't always like that.
imgc.allpostersimages.com
2012-12-23 06:41:28 AM
1 votes:

bboy: I prefer a thin, fit woman. "Curvy" is the new "Reubenesque". Your fat rolls and cellulite aren't sexy.


So you know, there's nothing wrong with a person finding women more attractive the closer they come to approximating the physique of a ten year old boy, so you don't have to feel bad about that.
2012-12-23 06:25:02 AM
1 votes:
Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.

/wife is a nutritionist w/ her BS in Human Nutrition and Dietetics
//who is also hot.
2012-12-23 06:18:30 AM
1 votes:

telaran: kxs401: telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.

Sorry, but the slightly overweight (like she is, BMI just over 25) have the longest life expectancies.

Nope. Link:

We conclude that for non-Hispanic whites, both overweight and obesity are associated with increased all-cause mortality, and underweight may be as well. All-cause mortality is generally lowest within the BMI range of 20.0 to 24.9. The results of our analysis are most relevant to whites living in affluent countries; similar analyses are under way in other populations.

The article, which is a meta-analysis of studies including 1.46 Million white adults, notes that, while some studies in the meta-analysis suggested that overweight carries little risk and some showed a possible benefit, they were confounded with smoking and preexisting illness. When pooled with other studies and examining the resultant large amounts of participant data, BMI above 25 - overweight - and obese showed increased rates of all-cause mortality.


"Correlation does not imply causation," comes to mind, but I think others have hit on that. More importantly, you have to look at the studies themselves and who financed them. I would put little faith in a study paid for by an organization that had a vested interest in making people believe that they are fat. As for looking at each of the studies for their scientific quality, although it could involve a great deal of tedious research that no one really has the time for (unless they are being paid to look into the level of obesity), there is an easy way to tell if the statistics are junk; look at the publisher.

Something from the journals Science or Nature or from a major health institute such as the Mayo Clinic is worth far more than something from the evening news program, as I believe your sources are. As for nationalize organizations like the AMA, which is where most of this false data seems to propagate from, they are influenced by political motives (such as hiding the fact that people are needlessly starving for political reasons) and not only are they generally behind current data and professional standards, but they may also be influenced by commercial interests.

You posted little information about which studies were used (yes, I looked at the link)
Read your data as a scientist.

9/10 for troll
10/10 for Obesophobia or Pocrescophobia (they can be related, consult your therapist)
2012-12-23 06:03:29 AM
1 votes:

Z-clipped: BarkingUnicorn: Long ago, I set my standard for a girl's maximum weight:height ratio: 2.0 lbs./inch. A 5'7" woman should weigh no more than 134 pounds.

I'm not a big guy... 5'8", 155 lbs, and pretty fit. I've dated all sizes of women from under 5' tall and curvy, to 6'3" runway models, and I must say, I much prefer it if a woman weighs less than I do. Not that big girls are unattractive...I'm no hater. Things just seem to go more smoothly if they don't outweigh me.

But my deal-breaker: Big hands and feet. No matter how attractive, intelligent, funny etc, if her hands and feet are bigger than mine, I just can't do it. It gives me the willies for some reason.


I can see how this might be a problem. You're only supposed to have one willie. If I suddenly found myself with multiple willies, I'm not sure what I'd do with the extras. However I'd probably figure it out and have a helluva time.
2012-12-23 05:42:26 AM
1 votes:

telaran: kxs401: telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.

Sorry, but the slightly overweight (like she is, BMI just over 25) have the longest life expectancies.

Nope. Link:

We conclude that for non-Hispanic whites, both overweight and obesity are associated with increased all-cause mortality, and underweight may be as well. All-cause mortality is generally lowest within the BMI range of 20.0 to 24.9. The results of our analysis are most relevant to whites living in affluent countries; similar analyses are under way in other populations.

The article, which is a meta-analysis of studies including 1.46 Million white adults, notes that, while some studies in the meta-analysis suggested that overweight carries little risk and some showed a possible benefit, they were confounded with smoking and preexisting illness. When pooled with other studies and examining the resultant large amounts of participant data, BMI above 25 - overweight - and obese showed increased rates of all-cause mortality.


I love when people try to disguise their hatred of overweight people with "concern" for their health. Studies on the effect of a BMI between 25 and 30 on health are not clear at all. Never mind the fact that waist-to-hip ratio is a better predictor of health problems than BMI.
2012-12-23 04:48:52 AM
1 votes:

telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.


Sorry, but the slightly overweight (like she is, BMI just over 25) have the longest life expectancies.
2012-12-23 04:20:30 AM
1 votes:

ItchyMcDoogle: I really am not attracted to really obese women, its just my preference. I am not attracted to a woman with the body like a ten speed bike ether. I want a woman not a skinny twig. This obsession with women looking like stick figures is perplexing to me.

[sportsblogs.star-telegram.com image 250x397]

Just right!

//Hot like Christina!


I'll take that skinny twig! Is just what I find attractive, and always have found attractive. "Curvy" just seems overweight to me and I'm just not interested. A pity for me too, considering the obesity epidemic. At least we can resource partition right?
2012-12-23 04:05:24 AM
1 votes:
In what universe is that NSFW?
2012-12-23 03:34:47 AM
1 votes:
She means to grow vegetables. Was this a euphemism? Like 23 Skidoo?
2012-12-23 03:28:43 AM
1 votes:
I'm married to her but she's 5'3 and 3/4". No jokes, I'm the luckiest man in Ballard!
2012-12-23 03:27:28 AM
1 votes:

telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.


No she really is not at high risk of any of those things.
2012-12-23 03:26:02 AM
1 votes:
The coolest thing about her is that she wanted to be just like her mommy....who graduated with a medical degree after her children were grown up.
2012-12-23 03:24:07 AM
1 votes:
A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.
2012-12-23 03:16:21 AM
1 votes:
I wonder what the Kalahari Bushmen's depiction of the perfect woman is?
2012-12-22 11:59:23 PM
1 votes:
Missing: 1912 equivalent of Studman69
2012-12-22 10:53:47 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Coco LaFemme: Benevolent Misanthrope: Coco LaFemme: Benevolent Misanthrope: ...Aaaaaand gay as Paris in Springtime.  Seriously.  There are so damn many early-20th-century lesbian dog whistles in her quotes it makes my head spin.

Women should never be afraid, fresh air and tramping through the woods, "ardent" suffragette, no mention of marriage at all, wants to take over the farm...  If she were alive today, she'd be taking her degree in gay rights activism.

Wait a minute, are you shiatting me?  Thinking women shouldn't be afraid, enjoying fresh air and walking around in the sunshine, wanting women to get the vote, and not believing their identity revolved around a husband equals being a lesbian?  WTF?  She may well have been a lesbian and she may not have been, who knows.  I just don't think enjoying walks in the sunshine makes you more apt to want to eat pussy.  I like walks in the sunshine, and I'm strictly dickly.

Saying it out loud in 1912 did, yes.  Things have changed a great deal over the years, even in my lifetime.  You'd be surprised.

No, I don't think I'd be surprised at the number of things that have changed in this world since the Titanic sank.  I was just taken aback at the suggestion that liking walks in fresh air meant you were secretly telling people you liked the ladies.  I would imagine that even in 1912, women enjoyed not sitting in a stuffy house all day if they could afford a few minutes out of it.

Then again, I was born 70 years after the period we're talking about, so what the hell do I know.

I came out during a time (The Reagan Years) when we communicated with one another in these ways.  It's not that women back in 1912 didn't like walks - but the respectable form was walks in the park, not tramping through the woods.  Being "outdoorsy" was a euphemism even when I was coming out.  Suffragettes were of course mostly straight... but defining oneself as an ardent suffragette was akin to coming out, really.  No mention of marriage, while no ...


All that is very valid.  I also think maybe it has to do with how and where she was raised.  If she was raised on a farm and had no mother, she was used to a different kind of life and upbringing than someone else during the same time period.  Maybe for her, women working on a farm, "tramping" around the outdoors, and being outdoorsy was all she knew.  I mean, Long Island back then was very rural compared to what it's like today.  Someone of the same age living in Manhattan would have no experience with those things, and thus wouldn't find working on a farm all that enjoyable.

Like I said, it's very possible she was a lesbian and was telling everyone in coded language that other lesbians would pick up on, or she was just a country girl who didn't have city girl ambitions.  I don't know.
2012-12-22 10:46:48 PM
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Benevolent Misanthrope: Coco LaFemme: Benevolent Misanthrope: ...Aaaaaand gay as Paris in Springtime.  Seriously.  There are so damn many early-20th-century lesbian dog whistles in her quotes it makes my head spin.

Women should never be afraid, fresh air and tramping through the woods, "ardent" suffragette, no mention of marriage at all, wants to take over the farm...  If she were alive today, she'd be taking her degree in gay rights activism.

Wait a minute, are you shiatting me?  Thinking women shouldn't be afraid, enjoying fresh air and walking around in the sunshine, wanting women to get the vote, and not believing their identity revolved around a husband equals being a lesbian?  WTF?  She may well have been a lesbian and she may not have been, who knows.  I just don't think enjoying walks in the sunshine makes you more apt to want to eat pussy.  I like walks in the sunshine, and I'm strictly dickly.

Saying it out loud in 1912 did, yes.  Things have changed a great deal over the years, even in my lifetime.  You'd be surprised.

No, I don't think I'd be surprised at the number of things that have changed in this world since the Titanic sank.  I was just taken aback at the suggestion that liking walks in fresh air meant you were secretly telling people you liked the ladies.  I would imagine that even in 1912, women enjoyed not sitting in a stuffy house all day if they could afford a few minutes out of it.

Then again, I was born 70 years after the period we're talking about, so what the hell do I know.


I came out during a time (The Reagan Years) when we communicated with one another in these ways.  It's not that women back in 1912 didn't like walks - but the respectable form was walks in the park, not tramping through the woods.  Being "outdoorsy" was a euphemism even when I was coming out.  Suffragettes were of course mostly straight... but defining oneself as an ardent suffragette was akin to coming out, really.  No mention of marriage, while not necessarily a defining thing, was certainly unusual.

It's a combination of the dog whistles that does it for me.  I'd love to know what her life was like, whether she buckled to the pressure to marry and make babies, or was a "spinster" who lived with her "companion", or married an equally unusual man and were friends with another unusual couple with whom they spent ALOT of time...
2012-12-22 09:30:15 PM
1 votes:
Fatty thread!
 
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