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(Daily Mail)   5ft 7in tall, 171 pounds, with a chest-waist-hips ratio of 35-30-40 inches, ladies and gentlemen: 'The most nearly perfect physical specimen of womanhood' 1912 edition (Not safe for work content in article)   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 240
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2012-12-23 06:25:02 AM
Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.

/wife is a nutritionist w/ her BS in Human Nutrition and Dietetics
//who is also hot.
 
2012-12-23 06:30:41 AM

Vertdang: Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.

/wife is a nutritionist w/ her BS in Human Nutrition and Dietetics
//who is also hot.


I had my fat/muscle mass index done by the gym, involved measurements, calipers and a few scales. They said I needed to lose about 30 pounds, which would be about right.
 
2012-12-23 06:32:53 AM
I prefer a thin, fit woman. "Curvy" is the new "Reubenesque". Your fat rolls and cellulite aren't sexy.
 
2012-12-23 06:37:45 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: telaran: kxs401: telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.

Sorry, but the slightly overweight (like she is, BMI just over 25) have the longest life expectancies.

Nope. Link:

We conclude that for non-Hispanic whites, both overweight and obesity are associated with increased all-cause mortality, and underweight may be as well. All-cause mortality is generally lowest within the BMI range of 20.0 to 24.9. The results of our analysis are most relevant to whites living in affluent countries; similar analyses are under way in other populations.

The article, which is a meta-analysis of studies including 1.46 Million white adults, notes that, while some studies in the meta-analysis suggested that overweight carries little risk and some showed a possible benefit, they were confounded with smoking and preexisting illness. When pooled with other studies and examining the resultant large amounts of participant data, BMI above 25 - overweight - and obese showed increased rates of all-cause mortality.

"Correlation does not imply causation," comes to mind, but I think others have hit on that. More importantly, you have to look at the studies themselves and who financed them. I would put little faith in a study paid for by an organization that had a vested interest in making people believe that they are fat. As for looking at each of the studies for their scientific quality, although it could involve a great deal of tedious research that no one really has the time for (unless they are being paid to look into the level of obesity), there is an easy way to tell if the statistics are junk; look at the publisher.

Something from the journals Science or Nature or from a major health institute such as the Mayo Clinic is worth far more than something from the evening news program, as I believ ...


The study he cited was from the New England Journal of Medicine. You know, the most prestigious medical journal in the USA. Does not means it is correct of course. The dumbass vaccine/autism link paper was in Lancet (UK's most prestigious).
 
2012-12-23 06:40:12 AM

octopied: I'm a little curious as how one determines a woman has bigger feet than oneself.


It's the hands, more than the feet that skeeve me out, really. The sizes just tend to correlate.

Not that it matters at this point... I'm married to a brilliant, gorgeous, petite woman, whose taste in, *ahem*, "playmates" tends to be similar to mine.
 
2012-12-23 06:41:28 AM

bboy: I prefer a thin, fit woman. "Curvy" is the new "Reubenesque". Your fat rolls and cellulite aren't sexy.


So you know, there's nothing wrong with a person finding women more attractive the closer they come to approximating the physique of a ten year old boy, so you don't have to feel bad about that.
 
2012-12-23 06:42:12 AM

Vertdang: Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.


BMI isn't bad, it is just information. But, like all information, you need to know where it comes from and how to properly apply it.
As you noted, it's not really a good metric to measure yourself by, at least not in any precise way. However, it does work well as a coarse analysis of the average person. Which is to say, it is actually quite well suited to analyzing the overall health of a large number of randomly selected people. If you look at the health of hundreds or thousands of people with a BMI in a particular range, you're likely to get a fairly strong correlation with their overall health unless you're specifically selecting people from particular populations like runners, weight lifters, runway models, etc. So it is a good metric for studies that make broad conclusions about weight vs. health, but it isn't appropriate to take a specific person and make specific health recommendations based on BMI.
 
2012-12-23 06:45:27 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: ...Aaaaaand gay as Paris in Springtime.  Seriously.  There are so damn many early-20th-century lesbian dog whistles in her quotes it makes my head spin.

Women should never be afraid, fresh air and tramping through the woods, "ardent" suffragette, no mention of marriage at all, wants to take over the farm...  If she were alive today, she'd be taking her degree in gay rights activism.


From the quotes in the Daily Mail I'd tentatively agree with you. But the original newspaper also says: "To her mind, the making of a home is the worthiest work a woman can do, and her mother is admittedly her ideal woman." (see the original paper here) That sounds happy-hetero-homemaker to me.

However, the newspaper also says the Venus de Milo was 5 foot 4. That didn't sound right (statues like that are usually larger than life), and a quick check on wiki tells me the statue is actually 6 foot 8.

I don't know why I expected a 1912 newspaper to be any more accurate than a modern one, but I'm disappointed nevertheless.
 
2012-12-23 06:46:51 AM

Vertdang: Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.

/wife is a nutritionist w/ her BS in Human Nutrition and Dietetics
//who is also hot.


And how do you cost-effectively measure changes in entire populations as a whole, over time?

BMI does that, really well.
 
2012-12-23 06:53:39 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: Tellingthem: Jesus i'm 6'3" and I weight about that...And I'm not exactly a bean pole either...

According to the AMA you are average and healthy. Personally, my best weight has been 185 lbs. as an adult (I had abs for a brief time). I am 5'6" and at that time I could clean and press 250 lbs. and did so regularly each day as part of my job (yes, I should have asked for a team lift, but I could move the boxes myself with minor effort). It scared the hell out of the customers. That puts me at obese for that weight and I was only that light since that job paid me so little that I could barely afford food after rent, heat, and driving to work in an owned econo car!

Then again, their chart puts puts a famous body builder that won the Mister Universe contest once as an amateur and three times in a row as a professional as obese! His personal records for lifting clean & press - 264 lb (120 kg), snatch - 243 lb (110 kg), clean & jerk - 298 lb (135 kg), Squat - 215 kg (470 lb), Bench press - 200 kg (440 lb), deadlift - 310 kg (680 lb). Certainly not some flabby guy. Granted, his height is argued over as between 5'10" and 6'2" for some reason, but his average weight has been 250 lbs.

[collider.com image 552x800]

Would you tell him that he is obese?

Their data is out of date or skewed by countries with other health problems (famine, pollution, poor regional diet, ect.) or ethnicity (some areas have bred humans that or taller or weigh more. Look at Norway.)

My wife has bigger tits and weighs a bit more than this woman. She is as strong and hot as hell. It is no fun not having her able to roll me around in bed.

\did you say citation needed? LEARN TO GOOGLE YOU LAZY GIRLY-MAN
\\I showed you who I was referring too for the celebrity
\\\the AMA chart is in google
\the slashies compel you!


I had a conversation with someone at work about this a while back when Green Mile guy died (I'm a nurse specializing in critical care.) I think that when you really look at what they are saying (obese/overweight stigma aside), the healthiest people are the beanpoles. Green Mile guy and Ahnald are incredibly well muscled, but their itty-bitty heart has to pump blood to all of that muscle. Unlike a fat person, their kidneys have a lot more work to do to process the waste involved with expending energy to fire muscle. Their pancreas has to produce a lot of insulin daily, etc. etc. So, when you actually look at what a healthy body weight is, lighter is better, no matter what your body fat percentage.

Those are just my own anecdotal thoughts. And, I agree, obese is a bad term for Arnie....
 
2012-12-23 06:56:52 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: "Correlation does not imply causation," comes to mind, but I think others have hit on that.


This is so overused.
People seem to take it as an unassailable truth that whenever two things are correlated by a study that you can just recite that little mantra and instantly invalidate whatever the study concluded. The truth is that a great many studies correlate two variables precisely because correlation can and often does point towards causation, and in fact is a very good way to find it. Confounding variables have to be accounted for, of course, you can't just pick any two things and link them by correlation. But correlations in a well-controlled study are perfectly legitimate ways to indicate a connection between two measureables; even if they aren't directly linked it will very often help find what is directly linked.


Lionel Mandrake: Gulper Eel: [www.theodore-roosevelt.com image 604x832]

Alice Roosevelt.
Smokin' hot but one false move and her daddy would gut you like the mountain lion he singlehandedly killed in 1883 or something.

I shall invite her to partake in the very latest miracles of modern holistic medicines: plenty of fruit juice, colonics, calisthenics, cornflakes and my penis.


Approves
s3.vidimg02.popscreen.com
 
2012-12-23 07:02:18 AM

kxs401: I love when people try to disguise their hatred of overweight people with "concern" for their health.


Uh oh, the secret conspiracy of physicians has been uncovered! And all this time, I thought their recommendations for people arose because they actually cared and didn't want to see people risk developing chronic, long term illnesses that reduce quality of life or early death. But no, it's all just a front to disguise their hatred of the overweight so that random people on the internet don't have to look at them and can point and laugh. Or something. What monsters.
 
2012-12-23 07:04:52 AM
A not so great <a href="http://www.mybodygallery.com/search.html?height=5+7&weight=170&p ant=12 &shirt=any&zphoto=Large&triangle=1&new=1">http://www.mybodygallery.co m/search.html?height=5+7&weight=170&pant=12 &shirt=any&zphoto=Large&triangle=1&new=1 ">gallery of women who fit that description</a>.  I checked pear due to the article, but if you check everything there's some really nice looking gals in there.  Overall I would say nice take home to mom girls, nothing to be ashamed of, but not on the super-hot by todays standards side of the line.
 
2012-12-23 07:13:00 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Vertdang: Not to mention the BMI as a standard is terrible. It only takes in to account Height and Weight.
If you really want to know if you're healthy, go to a dietician and get a referral to get your body mass properly indexed. They can tell you percentages of body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, etc.

/wife is a nutritionist w/ her BS in Human Nutrition and Dietetics
//who is also hot.

And how do you cost-effectively measure changes in entire populations as a whole, over time?

BMI does that, really well.


I'd suggest putting in for anonymous acquisition of MRI and DXA outputs to compare the high accuracy BMI with the ballpark BMI of the chart.

/I look fat but I don't jiggle
//Which was my goal at the gym
 
2012-12-23 07:13:40 AM
I can see how this might be a problem. You're only supposed to have one willie. If I suddenly found myself with multiple willies, I'm not sure what I'd do with the extras. However I'd probably figure it out and have a helluva time.

There is a condition called Diphallia where there is penile duplication. From the article on this condition:

Men who have penile duplication may suffer from duplication of other body parts as well. A person having penile duplication may have two anuses, two bladders or two livers. Spina bifida is very common among men with diphallia as well.

Infants born with penile duplication may have a high mortality rate (death rate) because their complex renal (kidney) or colorectal systems are more prone to infections and other disease. Problems due to duplication of bladders and livers also increase the mortality rate of diphallia patients.
 
2012-12-23 07:19:07 AM
I love how what should have been a nice civil discussion about how great a girl with a big ass is can turn into an argument about body mass index for some people.

Also- those people sound fat.
 
2012-12-23 07:24:02 AM

Whole Wheat: gozar_the_destroyer: Tellingthem: Jesus i'm 6'3" and I weight about that...And I'm not exactly a bean pole either...

According to the AMA you are average and healthy. Personally, my best weight has been 185 lbs. as an adult (I had abs for a brief time). I am 5'6" and at that time I could clean and press 250 lbs. and did so regularly each day as part of my job (yes, I should have asked for a team lift, but I could move the boxes myself with minor effort). It scared the hell out of the customers. That puts me at obese for that weight and I was only that light since that job paid me so little that I could barely afford food after rent, heat, and driving to work in an owned econo car!

Then again, their chart puts puts a famous body builder that won the Mister Universe contest once as an amateur and three times in a row as a professional as obese! His personal records for lifting clean & press - 264 lb (120 kg), snatch - 243 lb (110 kg), clean & jerk - 298 lb (135 kg), Squat - 215 kg (470 lb), Bench press - 200 kg (440 lb), deadlift - 310 kg (680 lb). Certainly not some flabby guy. Granted, his height is argued over as between 5'10" and 6'2" for some reason, but his average weight has been 250 lbs.

[collider.com image 552x800]

Would you tell him that he is obese?

Their data is out of date or skewed by countries with other health problems (famine, pollution, poor regional diet, ect.) or ethnicity (some areas have bred humans that or taller or weigh more. Look at Norway.)

My wife has bigger tits and weighs a bit more than this woman. She is as strong and hot as hell. It is no fun not having her able to roll me around in bed.

\did you say citation needed? LEARN TO GOOGLE YOU LAZY GIRLY-MAN
\\I showed you who I was referring too for the celebrity
\\\the AMA chart is in google
\the slashies compel you!

I had a conversation with someone at work about this a while back when Green Mile guy died (I'm a nurse specializing in critical care.) I think that when you really look at what they are saying (obese/overweight stigma aside), the healthiest people are the beanpoles. Green Mile guy and Ahnald are incredibly well muscled, but their itty-bitty heart has to pump blood to all of that muscle. Unlike a fat person, their kidneys have a lot more work to do to process the waste involved with expending energy to fire muscle. Their pancreas has to produce a lot of insulin daily, etc. etc. So, when you actually look at what a healthy body weight is, lighter is better, no matter what your body fat percentage.

Those are just my own anecdotal thoughts. And, I agree, obese is a bad term for Arnie....


That's not true. Highest mortality rates are for those with a BMI below 18.
 
2012-12-23 07:29:28 AM

kxs401: That's not true. Highest mortality rates are for those with a BMI below 18.


That is the other end of the bell curve. I think you understood what I was saying....
 
2012-12-23 07:29:33 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Mock26: Real Women Drink Akvavit: BarkingUnicorn: Long ago, I set my standard for a girl's maximum weight:height ratio:  2.0 lbs./inch.  A 5'7" woman should weigh no more than 134 pounds.

Then I got old and fat, and things changed.

You were into anorexics? Dude. That's way too thin. Everyone knows anorexics can't even cook and you'd have to make all of your own sammiches! Glad you wised up.

/chubby, chef type person

Chef type person? Make me a sandwich!

Please.

Fresh mozzarella, tomato slices, drizzle of olive oil with crisped up pancetta, all on a homemade basil parm bread  that I sometimes put a healthy smear of roasted garlic on comin' right up! I do 'em grilled cheese style and they are nommylicious.

Dammit. Now I'm hungry. Then again, I do have bread in the oven  and can smell it, so that's not helping.


I think I'm in love...
/drool
 
2012-12-23 07:32:41 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-23 07:37:53 AM

hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]


She wasn't always like that.
imgc.allpostersimages.com
 
2012-12-23 07:52:42 AM

Gawdzila: The truth is that a great many studies correlate two variables precisely because correlation can and often does point towards causation, and in fact is a very good way to find it


Thanks. This always bothers me too. I don't know how "correlation is not proof of causation" somehow morphed into "does not imply".
 
2012-12-23 07:56:10 AM

Z-clipped: Gawdzila: The truth is that a great many studies correlate two variables precisely because correlation can and often does point towards causation, and in fact is a very good way to find it

Thanks. This always bothers me too. I don't know how "correlation is not proof of causation" somehow morphed into "does not imply".


It's the difference between "implies" in logic and "implies" in the colloquial sense. In formal logic, "A implies B" means if A is true then B is true.
 
2012-12-23 07:59:53 AM

hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]


If you watch movies from that era, the men tend to be rail thin and the wimmens not so much.
 
2012-12-23 08:01:00 AM
Very similar to my wonderful wife. Hips and Double D's? Yes please.
 
2012-12-23 08:04:35 AM
Remember folks:
These are curves:
media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com

These are chunks:

www.stpetebootcamp.com

Know the difference.
 
2012-12-23 08:09:42 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: cowgirl toffee: Mock26: GungFu: [img.thesun.co.uk image 620x727]
Perfect woman for...wookie work.

Or for slow dancing!

Perfect for slow dancing....

[img835.imageshack.us image 320x224]

She needs
[img132.imageshack.us image 500x643]


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-23 08:09:48 AM

kxs401: It's the difference between "implies" in logic and "implies" in the colloquial sense. In formal logic, "A implies B" means if A is true then B is true.


That's a good point. Thanks.

I only recently started seriously learning computer programming, but doing so has given me a lot of insight into the style of communication I've experienced on Fark over the years (which I think is probably thick with programming nerds). My hypothesis is that learning to think in a formal language can cause people to become overly attached to specificity and logical consistency, sometimes beyond the point of being reasonable. I'm inclined to file this situation under that general idea.
 
2012-12-23 08:14:07 AM
I'd offer her a ride in my motorcarriage ... after I vulcanized the tires and topped the reservoir with petroleum distillate of course ...
 
2012-12-23 08:14:32 AM
www.suppressedhistories.net
 
2012-12-23 08:27:49 AM
I wonder what she weighed at age 30.
 
2012-12-23 08:28:00 AM

Ficoce: hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]

She wasn't always like that.
[imgc.allpostersimages.com image 473x370]


Doesn't surprise me. Just about every actress whose roles depended on her looks did weight training as well as some form of aerobics since the 1930's.
 
2012-12-23 08:29:48 AM
There are way too many comments in here. What direction did this thread turn? What are we arguing about now?
 
2012-12-23 08:32:37 AM

Teknowaffle: Remember folks:
These are curves:
[media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com image 192x373]

These are chunks:

[www.stpetebootcamp.com image 574x386]

Know the difference.


Those gals would bankrupt the Mandarin buffet.
 
2012-12-23 08:36:05 AM

Coco LaFemme: Nowadays, a woman with those measurements would be called a cow and told to lose 30 pounds.  Which is a pretty shiatty indictment on today's society.


And men are supposed to be sensitive. Also completely unrealistic. It's like society doesn't recognize the science behind testosterone and estrogen.
 
2012-12-23 08:37:11 AM
Most of this thread:

"Your body doesn't entertain/entice me as I feel it should. Change it for me."
 
2012-12-23 08:38:17 AM

Tat'dGreaser: There are way too many comments in here. What direction did this thread turn? What are we arguing about now?


Whether or not BMI is a crock of shiat and who is fat and who is not. I just made someone a sammich last night though, cuz I'm cool that way.
 
2012-12-23 08:38:32 AM

ol' gormsby: St. Celery: MajorGroove: I used to get all bent out of shape about today's standards of beauty. Then I grew up, graduated from college, got out in the world, and realized that plenty of men love them some hips and some double D's. Sure, I'm a hambeast compared to runway models. But I work out on a regular basis, eat healthy, and genuinely like my body. And I'm healthy. I got nothing to complain about!

Who asked? Keep on trying to convince yourself you like being fat and that anyone finds it attractive.

7/10
Structure - excellent. Uses inflammatory opening statement, followed by verb-dense "assault" of loaded terms.
Plot - fair. Follow-up not as effective as the opening statement, and peters out to ineffective conclusion. Lacks images.
Conclusion - you got me to bite, so "well done!"

/ loves me some curves
// Mrs. Gormsby has curves


Yes, with articles like this, invariably, some women need to jump in and make it all about them. But in this case, she has to offer two excellent points that I really like: one, she emphasizes health and two, she has a healthy self-esteem.
 
2012-12-23 08:46:29 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Whether or not BMI is a crock of shiat and who is fat and who is not. I just made someone a sammich last night though, cuz I'm cool that way.


I don't think anyone here ever says BMI is correct yet we all argue about it anyway.

What kind of sammich? That changes everything
 
2012-12-23 08:47:15 AM

Z-clipped: kxs401: It's the difference between "implies" in logic and "implies" in the colloquial sense. In formal logic, "A implies B" means if A is true then B is true.

That's a good point. Thanks.

I only recently started seriously learning computer programming, but doing so has given me a lot of insight into the style of communication I've experienced on Fark over the years (which I think is probably thick with programming nerds). My hypothesis is that learning to think in a formal language can cause people to become overly attached to specificity and logical consistency, sometimes beyond the point of being reasonable. I'm inclined to file this situation under that general idea.


This is very true. When I went to my parents for a birthday party I was asked if I could stop at the supermarket to pick up a carton of milk. And if they had fresh eggs I was to bring 6. They were not amused when I arrived with 6 cartons of milk...
 
2012-12-23 09:05:34 AM
The porn sure was tame back then.
 
2012-12-23 09:06:01 AM
I just noticed someone gifted me with TF status, whoever you are, thanks!!
 
2012-12-23 09:12:33 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Whether or not BMI is a crock of shiat and who is fat and who is not. I just made someone a sammich last night though, cuz I'm cool that way.

I don't think anyone here ever says BMI is correct yet we all argue about it anyway.

What kind of sammich? That changes everything


Sammiches always do!  Fresh mozzarella, tomato slices, drizzle of olive oil with crisped up pancetta, all on a homemade basil parm bread  that I sometimes put a healthy smear of roasted garlic on the inside of the bread.  I do 'em grilled cheese style and they are nommylicious.
 
2012-12-23 09:13:32 AM

kxs401: telaran: A woman who is 5'7" and weighs 171 lbs probably should lose about 10-20 lbs as, unless she's muscular, she's likely medically overweight and is putting herself at higher risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease.

Sorry, but the slightly overweight (like she is, BMI just over 25) have the longest life expectancies.


Plus, she's pear shaped, which is alot healthier shape than apple shape to be.
 
2012-12-23 09:17:18 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Sammiches always do!  Fresh mozzarella, tomato slices, drizzle of olive oil with crisped up pancetta, all on a homemade basil parm bread  that I sometimes put a healthy smear of roasted garlic on the inside of the bread.  I do 'em grilled cheese style and they are nommylicious.


Goddamn woman, ain't you never heard of no peanut butter and jelly!?!?
 
2012-12-23 09:20:24 AM
Roughly my wife's proportions (although she's about 10 lbs heavier).
 
2012-12-23 09:21:17 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Sammiches always do!  Fresh mozzarella, tomato slices, drizzle of olive oil with crisped up pancetta, all on a homemade basil parm bread  that I sometimes put a healthy smear of roasted garlic on the inside of the bread.  I do 'em grilled cheese style and they are nommylicious.

Goddamn woman, ain't you never heard of no peanut butter and jelly!?!?


I was Chef de Cuisine at a middle-fine dining establishment for nearly a decade. You ain't getting me to make no PB&J. I'm going all out, bub. Sammiches. Serious business. (for me, anyway, cuz I likes 'em)

/yeah, I'm chubby
 
2012-12-23 09:23:53 AM

hubiestubert: In fairness, this woman would be considered a moo cow by a lot of folks' standards today...

[www.blogcdn.com image 415x526]


Indeed.

I was watching the "Trump Parade of Beauties" earlier this week and remarked the lady emcee resembled a mummified skeleton.

I'd much rather look at Marilyn.
 
2012-12-23 09:25:19 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Tat'dGreaser: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Sammiches always do!  Fresh mozzarella, tomato slices, drizzle of olive oil with crisped up pancetta, all on a homemade basil parm bread  that I sometimes put a healthy smear of roasted garlic on the inside of the bread.  I do 'em grilled cheese style and they are nommylicious.

Goddamn woman, ain't you never heard of no peanut butter and jelly!?!?

I was Chef de Cuisine at a middle-fine dining establishment for nearly a decade. You ain't getting me to make no PB&J. I'm going all out, bub. Sammiches. Serious business. (for me, anyway, cuz I likes 'em)

/yeah, I'm chubby


I like you.

Could you swap a little of the garlic for some sauteed shiatakes?
 
2012-12-23 09:30:00 AM
Do a Google search on her name and you find that this article was reprinted by various papers around the country over the next year so even back the they were publishing junk news. It would have been nice though if they'd done some followup and found out if she got her MD and went into practice with her mom and brother, got married, had kids and age of death.

Boticelli's Venus was a real person, Simonetta Vespucci, and she died at the age of 24

4.bp.blogspot.com

She was a grey eyed blonde and a model for a number of his paintings but she's closer to today's standards of beauty than the Cornell latke.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
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