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2012-12-22 10:35:51 PM

Man On Pink Corner: This silliness isn't going to stop until we have armed TSA officers in every public school, is it?


Single access point, metal detector and an armed guard when the school is first opened. Limited access after that- single entry point only.

Doesn't prevent sniper- style attacks. Or attacks on other public places.

There are no economic/practical approaches to prevention. As long as the crazies are given access to weaponry, these incidents will continue.
 
2012-12-22 10:41:03 PM
*sigh*

Of course it's Alberta.
 
2012-12-22 10:43:15 PM

Methadone Girls: They shut down 4 of the 6 schools and found no evidence of any danger and 1 for a low risk incident.  Also fark you for making me read a Sun article.

Canada takes things seriously when it comes to threats and we stop and investigate.  Crazy notion eh?


They shut down two high schools in Helena over threats. There are only two high schools in Helena.

The United States CLEARLY takes threats more seriously than you hosers...
 
2012-12-22 10:45:59 PM
Of course there were CANADIAN schools. If they were Americans schools they would be shut down for actual shootings, not just for silly threats.
 
2012-12-22 10:46:08 PM

apoptotic: *sigh*

Of course it's Alberta.


It always is.
 
2012-12-22 10:46:17 PM

Kit Fister: Does anyone remember a time when kids didn't shoot up their schools, people didn't feel the need to demand the police and government handle every aspect of everything, and we stood up to bullies who tried to rule us through fear?


Since school shooting at about a dozen a year go back to the 1900's, I'm going to say you are hard pressed to find anyone who remembers when kids "didn't shoot up their schools".

Link
 
2012-12-22 10:48:08 PM

Wayne 985: Kit Fister: randomjsa: vpb: Well, you don't have as many of them either. If we shut down schools every time some tea bagger or gun nut threatened to start killing people they would be closed permanently.

You're a moron. The Tea Party is not a threat to anyone or anything except the liberal agenda. Which is why you're behaving as if they're some sort of group ready to shoot...

And just to demonstrate how completely stupid you are? Whom do you think wants to put armed guards or teachers at schools to protect kids... the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street? Think hard now.

What's amusing is that almost every kid at the school where my office is says they feel safer and like having the two police officers in the building, and would feel safer if they had people permanently there to patrol and keep an eye on things. Crazy, I know.

Ideally, there really needs to be a three-pronged attack: security in schools, tightening of gun restrictions in general, and vast improvement on the availability of mental health care.


I don't think restrictions will work, because the type of guns people want to restrict are used in only a handful of crimes. Improving the NICS system and putting in place processes that control storage and requirements to obtain to a reasonable level (in line with getting a driver's license), might make more of a difference, but shootings happen even in places with strict gun control. Unless or until we fix the mental health problem and we find ways of being more successful at identifying and treating people with illnesses, as well as collectively take responsibility to intervene when the signs of trouble first come up and not ignore them, we won't get very far.

Guns or not, too, we as a species tend to be violent towards each other, and no nation yet has solved the problem of preventing people from exercising violent tendencies. Realistically there are a whole host of things that we could do that would help address the root of the problem, but we'll never eliminate it.
 
2012-12-22 10:48:15 PM

Man On Pink Corner: This silliness isn't going to stop until we have armed TSA officers in every public school, is it?


Given TSA job proficiency they should be a good match with public school teachers.

Think of it as a jobs programs. Not real jobs but they won't count against the unemployment numbers and being unionized they will vote "the right way".
 
2012-12-22 10:48:41 PM

mediablitz: Kit Fister: Does anyone remember a time when kids didn't shoot up their schools, people didn't feel the need to demand the police and government handle every aspect of everything, and we stood up to bullies who tried to rule us through fear?

Since school shooting at about a dozen a year go back to the 1900's, I'm going to say you are hard pressed to find anyone who remembers when kids "didn't shoot up their schools".

Link


Thereby proving semi-automatic assault rifles are completely harmless.
 
2012-12-22 10:53:49 PM
There was some vague threat made to a specific day when I was a junior in High School. They brought in some bomb sniffing dogs to check the place out that day and found nothing. A chunk of students stayed home but I'm sure they were looking for any reason to get out of going to class.

//was a pretty sweet day on campus
 
2012-12-22 10:55:37 PM
butte high has been closed due to a pun threat.
 
2012-12-22 11:01:24 PM

clowncar on fire: Man On Pink Corner: This silliness isn't going to stop until we have armed TSA officers in every public school, is it?

Single access point, metal detector and an armed guard when the school is first opened. Limited access after that- single entry point only.

Doesn't prevent sniper- style attacks. Or attacks on other public places.

There are no economic/practical approaches to prevention. As long as the crazies are given access to weaponry, these incidents will continue.


The flaw in that logic is that, as proven in other nations, you take away guns, people use knives or clubs or other weapons.

Just changing the tool doesn't change the behavior, and it's extremely stupid to ignore the behavior and simply take away the tool.

We could recognize that people become addicted to gambling and ban casinos. However, how does that stop people addicted to gambling from finding other ways to act on it.

Even better, people like recreational drug use, for whatever reason. Control and bans on drugs and the materials used to make drugs hasn't made a dent in use, it's simply opened up black markets for people to indulge, and forced people to find new drugs/sources.

So, you don't stop violence from happening just by banning guns, and what will you do then? Follow britain's lead and keep banning things in the name of protecting society?

As Thonas Jefferson once said, "I prefer dangerous liberty to safe tyranny."

I much prefer living in a world where I face risks but do not require others to protect me and dictate what is and is not acceptable. I am afraid I will never accept a world where I have traded my freedom to own, do, and go what and where I please for the illusion of safety.

Thankfully for the people who wish to live in a society where they can exert their world view on others, there are places like that.

So, get back to me when you're ready to face the harder task of stopping humanity's violent nature and how to stop the mentally ill in a way that doesn't treat me like a criminal or suspect for being a law abiding citizen with different tastes and hobbies and beliefs than you.
 
2012-12-22 11:02:34 PM

WhippingBoy: mediablitz: Kit Fister: Does anyone remember a time when kids didn't shoot up their schools, people didn't feel the need to demand the police and government handle every aspect of everything, and we stood up to bullies who tried to rule us through fear?

Since school shooting at about a dozen a year go back to the 1900's, I'm going to say you are hard pressed to find anyone who remembers when kids "didn't shoot up their schools".

Link

Thereby proving semi-automatic assault rifles are completely harmless.


Of thereby proving humanity has always hand and continues to have its share of whack jobs that inflict suffering on others.
 
2012-12-22 11:07:45 PM
Who needs guns?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
 
2012-12-22 11:10:29 PM

DeusMeh: do you even need a gun to make a gun threat anymore?


No.
 
2012-12-22 11:16:08 PM
haha, everyone knows canadia doesn't have guns.
 
2012-12-22 11:17:39 PM

Plant Rights Activist: haha, everyone knows canadia doesn't have guns.


Oh, we have lots of guns, actually.
 
2012-12-22 11:22:14 PM

Ishkur: randomjsa: The Tea Party is not a threat to anyone or anything except the liberal agenda.

What, pray tell, is the "liberal agenda"? And why is the Tea Party a threat to it?

/honestly don't know
//Canadian


The "liberal agenda" is the insidious plot to institute universal healthcare, a social safety net, equality for everyone and a progressive tax structure. It is literally worse than Hitler.
 
2012-12-22 11:23:31 PM

BronyMedic: Methadone Girls: They shut down 4 of the 6 schools and found no evidence of any danger and 1 for a low risk incident.  Also fark you for making me read a Sun article.

Canada takes things seriously when it comes to threats and we stop and investigate.  Crazy notion eh?

Well, were the people who called it in atleast very polite? I hear you can take them seriously depending on if they say Please, Sir/Ma'am, Thank you, and Aboot a lot.

Also if they talk about mounties or moose.


I'm thinking they sounded like Bob and Doug McKensie: "Hey you hosers, shut down, eh?" Yeah, we got guns, eh?" And grenades too!" "We do not you hoser, just take off, eh?" "No, you take off."
 
2012-12-22 11:24:47 PM

ordinarysteve: Ishkur: randomjsa: The Tea Party is not a threat to anyone or anything except the liberal agenda.

What, pray tell, is the "liberal agenda"? And why is the Tea Party a threat to it?

/honestly don't know
//Canadian

The "liberal agenda" is the insidious plot to institute universal healthcare, a social safety net, equality for everyone and a progressive tax structure. It is literally worse than Hitler.


I can see why you need all your guns. You must not let this horrible thing occur.
 
2012-12-22 11:30:01 PM
images4.mtv.com

At the hundredth meridian.
 
2012-12-22 11:31:44 PM

Kit Fister: Does anyone remember a time when kids didn't shoot up their schools, people didn't feel the need to demand the police and government handle every aspect of everything, and we stood up to bullies who tried to rule us through fear?
.


Actually people have been shooting up schools in this country for centuries for various reasons. The sad fact is there is no cure for this type of violence. We could be kinder to one another and we could offer greater access to mental health care. The violence won't go away completely though
 
2012-12-22 11:40:56 PM

Kit Fister: The flaw in that logic is that, as proven in other nations, you take away guns, people use knives or clubs or other weapons.


Yeah, I've seen those headlines from the UK and Japan.

"26 kids clubbed to death at elementary school"
 
2012-12-22 11:42:47 PM
This shiat is scary. In my school days the most we had to hope for was a prank fire alarm pull.

/onions
// lawn safety.
 
2012-12-22 11:54:30 PM
Just discovered this tv series called 'Flashpoint' less than a month ago. If phoning in a fake school shooting meant that I got to be felt up and arrested by Amy Jo Johnson, I'd do it weekly.
 
2012-12-23 12:04:48 AM
Mounties said they arrested a 17-year-old male student in Ponoka, about 200 km north of Calgary, after he allegedly uttered threats and was found in possession of firearms. Police said ammunition, a .22 calibre and a high-powered rifle were found at the house where the teen lives.

Well in his defense if you search any random house north of Calgary you'll find the same thing, those elk aren't going to shoot themselves ya know..
 
2012-12-23 12:08:18 AM

sparkeyjames: This shiat is scary. In my school days the most we had to hope for was a prank fire alarm pull.

/onions
// lawn safety.


One day in 1991 my small town Alberta high school went into full lockdown, with roadblocks, RCMP onsite and a Fish & Wildlife officer set up as a sniper on the hill overlooking the school, because the administration heard that one of my classmates had gotten into an argument with some kids at a rival school. Of course, the administration heard from the principal's wife's hairdresser's brother's girlfriend that a group of kids from the other school were on their way over to shoot up the school and challenge our football team to a brawl, so they thought it was pretty serious.

My classmate was mortified and for months we'd tease him whenever he got mouthy by saying before he went any farther we'd need to call Stan (the F&W officer) to see if he was available.

Hence my lack of surprise, facepalm, and earlier comment that "of course it's Alberta".
 
2012-12-23 12:23:59 AM

apoptotic: Hence my lack of surprise, facepalm, and earlier comment that "of course it's Alberta".


And yet they send the RCMP to check out a disturbance at a farm and 4 of them get shot.
 
2012-12-23 12:47:12 AM

Kit Fister: The flaw in that logic is that, as proven in other nations, you take away guns, people use knives or clubs or other weapons.


While this may be true, at the same time it is a lot harder to kill 20+ people with a knife or club than it is with an AR-15.

Getting rid of semiautomatic rifles or even large magazines will turn a lot of double digit mass shootings into single digit mass shootings.
 
2012-12-23 12:58:59 AM

priapus54: Who needs guns?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster


Thank God bombs and bomb making materials aren't as legally available as guns. We'd be seeing more of that.
 
2012-12-23 12:59:59 AM

vpb: Methadone Girls: They shut down 4 of the 6 schools and found no evidence of any danger and 1 for a low risk incident.  Also fark you for making me read a Sun article.

Canada takes things seriously when it comes to threats and we stop and investigate.  Crazy notion eh?

Well, you don't have as many of them either.  If we shut down schools every time some tea bagger or gun nut threatened to start killing people they would be closed permanently.


Weird you say teabagger or gun nut as the last few mass murders with guns have not been even close to either of those.....
 
2012-12-23 01:07:06 AM

KimNorth: Weird you say teabagger or gun nut as the last few mass murders with guns have not been even close to either of those.....


The Tea Baggers and gun nuts just show up at rallies with signs THREATENING to shoot people.

Cuz, you know, violence is ALWAYS the answer...
 
2012-12-23 01:08:44 AM

Kit Fister: The flaw in that logic is that, as proven in other nations, you take away guns, people use knives or clubs or other weapons.


Other than not being proven, and not happening at NEAR the regularity that it happens here, and not NEAR the casualties, sure.

You stick with that line of bullshiat...
 
2012-12-23 01:12:23 AM
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Just looking for peaceful conversation...
 
2012-12-23 01:14:37 AM

mediablitz: KimNorth: Weird you say teabagger or gun nut as the last few mass murders with guns have not been even close to either of those.....

The Tea Baggers and gun nuts just show up at rallies with signs THREATENING to shoot people.

Cuz, you know, violence is ALWAYS the answer...


Wow, in "your" world perception must get in the way of reality.
 
2012-12-23 01:17:02 AM
Are you a fat, white, tiny dicked Tea Partier?

Carry a gun! Maybe no one will notice!!!

www.bradynetwork.org
 
2012-12-23 01:18:55 AM

KimNorth: mediablitz: KimNorth: Weird you say teabagger or gun nut as the last few mass murders with guns have not been even close to either of those.....

The Tea Baggers and gun nuts just show up at rallies with signs THREATENING to shoot people.

Cuz, you know, violence is ALWAYS the answer...

Wow, in "your" world perception must get in the way of reality.


Riiiggghhhhttt. Cuz there has NEVER been a Tea Party rally with "we came unarmed, THIS TIME" banners.

It's all a figment of my imagination. No call for armed revolt on right wing sites. No right wingers shooting up museums. No right wingers killing cops.

Yeah, I'M the one struggling with reality, not you. I'd laugh, if it weren't so pathetic.
 
2012-12-23 01:22:06 AM

sparkeyjames: This shiat is scary. In my school days the most we had to hope for was a prank fire alarm pull.

/onions
// lawn safety.


We got both tsunami AND earthquake evacuations, pretty much every year K thru 12.

/ Pacific Ring of Fire, man.
// nobody gave a fark about fire drills - so what, the school burns down, that's nothing to the town being swept away or swallowed by the Earf.
 
2012-12-23 01:35:33 AM
It was around grade 4 (honestly), that I realized just how stable and safe (from 'environmental' factors and limited demographic understanding). Alberta is a 'safe' place in the general sense.

/annoyed that 10#sDerp had to spoil a local thread ripe with possibility
 
2012-12-23 01:37:02 AM
I forgot to add...
...at the cost of living in a barren, frozen land half the year.
(But the summers are hard to beat.)
 
2012-12-23 02:04:23 AM

WhippingBoy: apoptotic: *sigh*

Of course it's Alberta.

It always is.


... and I bet every stupid kid that made the fake threat was brought here by their parents who came looking for work in our oilpatch from farking Ontario. You're welcome, rest of Canada, yes, the only reason our country survived the economic crisis was the revenues from Alberta oil, gas, and oilsands, but you go ahead and act like those dbag ingrates from Quebec and keep biting the hand that feeds.
 
2012-12-23 02:17:32 AM
Alberta can eat my ass.
 
2012-12-23 02:18:58 AM

DeusMeh: do you even need a gun to make a gun threat anymore?


You never needed a bomb to make a bomb threat...and that was much more common back in the day.

/of course in my day we simply pulled a fire alarm
 
2012-12-23 02:32:31 AM
Saskatchewan had one a day earlier... Regina Leader-Post link

fyi
 
2012-12-23 03:44:35 AM

Methadone Girls: They shut down 4 of the 6 schools and found no evidence of any danger and 1 for a low risk incident.  Also fark you for making me read a Sun article.

Canada takes things seriously when it comes to threats and we stop and investigate.  Crazy notion eh?


...that's the problem with bomb threats. In how many of the mass school killings did the murderers call in a threat?
 
2012-12-23 03:50:18 AM

priapus54: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster


"A guy blew up a school with a bomb back in 1927, therefore we should do absolutely nothing about gun-assisted mass killings in 2012."
 
2012-12-23 04:02:43 AM
Balchinian:

Maybe the answer is to bring back nuns.


It's time to talk about reasonable, common-sense nun control measures.
 
2012-12-23 04:18:18 AM
The person taking the call should have laughed it off. Canada has strong gun laws and that means things like school shootings don't happen here.
 
2012-12-23 04:19:41 AM

WhippingBoy: Thereby proving semi-automatic assault rifles are completely harmless.


1/10
 
2012-12-23 05:08:47 AM

Balchinian: When I was in 7th grade an 11th grader was found with a handgun and told to take it home and be back in time for his next class or else. It was Catholic school in the early 60's, so he did as he was told and was back in plenty of time.

Maybe the answer is to bring back nuns.

*shudders*

Never mind.


YES! SO MUCH THIS!!

give every teacher a nun and then you have the good guys with nuns shooting the bad guys with nuns...

or...

wait a sec...
 
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