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(TPNN)   Marijuana use among teens is at an all time high. So are the teens   (whptv.com) divider line 67
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2012-12-22 11:44:38 AM  
And Cheeto sales........
 
2012-12-22 01:23:41 PM  
You mean, legalizing marijuana leads to more people using it? And especially the dumbest, younger, hornier parts of our society? Whod a thunk it? Also, who cares?
/drtfa
//voted pro weed in wa st
 
2012-12-22 01:34:08 PM  
LEGALIZ- oh... never mind...
 
2012-12-22 01:50:56 PM  
FTFA: "Based on what we know ... we are predicting that it's going to go up," says Nora Volkow, MD, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "Just the fact that there are some states that have made it legal ... will send a message" to teens throughout the country.:

Does anyone actually trust the National Institute on Drug Abuse to be unbiased about this sort of thing?

/In related news, the NRA thinks the solution to violence is more guns
 
2012-12-22 01:54:38 PM  
It would be interesting to see if the teen usage of harder drugs is also going up, to either finally put to rest or validate the "gateway drug" argument.
 
2012-12-22 02:02:54 PM  
It's christmas break from work. I'm not a teen but I'm at an all time high for the next week (cept christmas day, my family doesnt need me eating all the food and cracking hilarious jokes)
 
2012-12-22 02:18:02 PM  
Funny, when this article was posted earlier in the week it showed a decline in use. From 6.6% last year to 6.5% this year.

Funny to see how local market media spin shiat.
 
Skr
2012-12-22 02:22:51 PM  
I'd maybe agree that more people (teens) are being upfront about their use now that is legal in a few places. Cutting away the stigma is a good way for people to be more honest. I doubt there really is a large uptick in usage though.
 
2012-12-22 02:57:16 PM  

basemetal: And Cheeto sales........


Ha ha ha ha - Cheetos. Great one.
Maybe if you smoked it may help with your creativity.
 
2012-12-22 03:00:30 PM  
And the National Do-Not-Give-A-shiat-About-People-Smoking-Pot-A-Meter continues to rise as well.

A couple weeks ago, my parents were having what they call their weekly "church chat" with a group of their friends. I was there and for some reason, the discussion turned to how much pot they were going to smoke when they get old enough to go to a nursing home, due to, by that time, pot'll probably be legal in the rest of the country.

Baby Boomers. At a religious gathering. Talking about how they're looking forward to toking up some of that medical marijuana.

Yeah, my parents and their friends are quite "interesting." Dad has some funny anecdotes about arguing with the sole cookie-cutter fundie at the meetings. Some of the other people are...interesting as well. Parents are liberal Christians damn near to the point of unitarians. And yet, they all get along. *shrug*
 
2012-12-22 03:01:18 PM  
If I had a kid I'd rather he be all high on the wacky backy than meth, coke, or even LSD for that matter. Mushrooms would be okay as long as it's a once in a while thing. Maybe.
 
2012-12-22 03:25:17 PM  
Maybe its time to put some controls on Marijuana so that the kids cant get it easier than the adults.

//took me 5 years when i moved to find a new connection.
 
2012-12-22 03:38:14 PM  
did u know rick harrison smoked weed at age 9
the bald guy from pawn stars??

i learned that from reading his book

he also took quaaludes and acid
 
2012-12-22 03:42:14 PM  
Just dont smoke tobacco, mmmkay.
 
2012-12-22 03:44:35 PM  
i4.ytimg.com

/too obscure?
 
2012-12-22 04:14:54 PM  
And so it begins again. Question is who can we sue in 40 years this time when all the teens have lung cancer and tuberculosis and are on medicare?
 
2012-12-22 04:32:29 PM  

Jaws_Victim: You mean, legalizing marijuana leads to more people using it? And especially the dumbest, younger, hornier parts of our society? Whod a thunk it?


I really doubt any effect of the legalization votes has occurred yet.
And the headline is misleading as the article goes on to say the rates are essentially the same as last year.
 
2012-12-22 04:38:03 PM  

JeffMD: And so it begins again. Question is who can we sue in 40 years this time when all the teens have lung cancer and tuberculosis and are on medicare?


Who cares?

That's like asking whether Joe Sixpack can sue Budweiser when he needs a new liver. Plenty of potentially dangerous things are legal, as they ought to be.

The problem with tobacco, by the way, was how marketers sold one of the most addictive subsances in the world to kids. Pot isn't even close to nicotine.

/I don't do either.
//I dislike both, but at least pot smokers only stink up their own homes.
 
2012-12-22 04:42:56 PM  

Jaws_Victim: You mean, legalizing marijuana leads to more people using it? And especially the dumbest, younger, hornier parts of our society? Whod a thunk it? Also, who cares?
/drtfa
//voted pro weed in wa st


Everyone should care, seeing as the effects of weed on any body that's 'still developing' (such as anyone under 18 or so) are at their worst. And it's not like other drugs where it's the same across the board, young to old. Weed does permanent damage to a developing kid on several important biological functions. That's a big deal. Adults? Who cares. Smoke it up. But kids are too stupid to know better, and they're the ones most at risk. Education on this stuff is incredibly important. Someone needs to tell the kids to hold off a few years before becoming pot heads.
 
2012-12-22 05:01:13 PM  
If it wasn't this, it would be "OMG teenagers are getting drunk!" Teenagers are going to to do drugs, so be thankful when they stick with the soft ones.
 
2012-12-22 05:14:42 PM  

solcofn: [i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/too obscure?


Silly person, nothing is obscure on FARK, don't cha know? For the uninitiated, that's Rita Coolidge, who sung the theme song titled "All Time High" for the 1983 James Bond movie "Octopussy",
 
2012-12-22 05:15:25 PM  
marilize legajuana
 
2012-12-22 05:27:12 PM  

JPSimonetti: And it's not like other drugs where it's the same across the board, young to old. Weed does permanent damage to a developing kid on several important biological functions.


So what you're saying is:

Other drugs do permanent damage to everyone. Weed does permanent damage to kids only. Therefore weed is especially dangerous!

Unless I'm misinterpreting you.
 
2012-12-22 05:33:30 PM  
How much does a quarter bag of weed cost these days? Anyone? Just wondering.
 
2012-12-22 05:34:19 PM  

Dafatone: JPSimonetti: And it's not like other drugs where it's the same across the board, young to old. Weed does permanent damage to a developing kid on several important biological functions.

So what you're saying is:

Other drugs do permanent damage to everyone. Weed does permanent damage to kids only. Therefore weed is especially dangerous!

Unless I'm misinterpreting you.


You're just being a smart ass. You know exactly what I'm saying.

/everyone loves a smart ass
 
2012-12-22 05:40:12 PM  

Mark Ratner: How much does a quarter bag of weed cost these days? Anyone? Just wondering.


Depends where you liiiive, maaaan. It goes from cheapest in on the west coast of US to most expensive on the east.

It also depends what strength you want, at least in the west.
 
2012-12-22 05:57:36 PM  

stevenrushing: It would be interesting to see if the teen usage of harder drugs is also going up, to either finally put to rest or validate the "gateway drug" argument.


The "gateway drug" hypothesis only works because weed's illegal, and most of the reasons they try to tell you not to smoke it turn out to be bullshiat. You smoke some weed. Nothing bad happens. Well, perhaps they were lying about cocaine, too... Because weed's illegal, you often have to get it from sketchy people who don't give a fark about the law. If that sketchy guy doesn't personally have any coke, someone from his crew does, and so on.
 
2012-12-22 05:59:20 PM  

JPSimonetti: Jaws_Victim: You mean, legalizing marijuana leads to more people using it? And especially the dumbest, younger, hornier parts of our society? Whod a thunk it? Also, who cares?
/drtfa
//voted pro weed in wa st

Everyone should care, seeing as the effects of weed on any body that's 'still developing' (such as anyone under 18 or so) are at their worst. And it's not like other drugs where it's the same across the board, young to old. Weed does permanent damage to a developing kid on several important biological functions. That's a big deal. Adults? Who cares. Smoke it up. But kids are too stupid to know better, and they're the ones most at risk. Education on this stuff is incredibly important. Someone needs to tell the kids to hold off a few years before becoming pot heads.


Agreed to a certain point. My percentage of friends who smoked .and for the most part still smoke,and are still successful is about 50%. Some have great jobs and/or familys already (Avg age is 29) and the rest are about what youd expect, with the worst offender being 30 years old, no job, and living in Austin on his grandparents dime who cant really afford it (We did the math, hes costing them about 30 k a year to do nothing but be a loser)

//women know exactly what you mean when they ask what you do for a living and you respond "I make music", poor bastard hasn't figured it out yet.
 
2012-12-22 06:06:04 PM  
I'd rather see teens smoking grass than drinking, taking pills, choking themselves, or using Reddit
 
2012-12-22 06:27:48 PM  

Karne: basemetal: And Cheeto sales........

Ha ha ha ha - Cheetos. Great one.
Maybe if you smoked it may help with your creativity.


Aww, did I hurt your wittle stoner feelings?
 
2012-12-22 06:41:41 PM  

Trollin4Colon: ... with the worst offender being 30 years old, no job, and living in Austin on his grandparents dime who cant really afford it (We did the math, hes costing them about 30 k a year to do nothing but be a loser)


What exactly is he doing to cost them 30k a year? And if they're really spending 30k a year then they can afford to put up one loser.
 
2012-12-22 06:43:43 PM  

basemetal: Karne: basemetal: And Cheeto sales........

Ha ha ha ha - Cheetos. Great one.
Maybe if you smoked it may help with your creativity.

Aww, did I hurt your wittle stoner feelings?


Yes, word hurt!
But try and say something original next time, instead of the first pedestrian Pavlovian dog response that pops into your straight and square big head. Thanks.
 
2012-12-22 06:46:29 PM  
Better than them drinking but they are probably doing that at an all time too.
 
2012-12-22 06:57:02 PM  

stevenrushing: It would be interesting to see if the teen usage of harder drugs is also going up, to either finally put to rest or validate the "gateway drug" argument.


Well, if you have a legal outlet that doesn't deal in harder drugs you eliminate the gateway effect of having a dealer.
 
2012-12-22 07:09:30 PM  

solcofn: [i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/too obscure?


I prefer this version of the meme:

www.allfoamnobeer.com
 
2012-12-22 08:32:08 PM  

stevenrushing: It would be interesting to see if the teen usage of harder drugs is also going up, to either finally put to rest or validate the "gateway drug" argument.


I know hundreds of people that have smoked pot that have never done coke. I don't know anyone that has done coke, shrooms, acid, PCP, meth, etc. that hasn't smoked pot.

Someone else in this thread pointed out that the "reefer madness" bs spewed out probably makes some who smoke pot think that if the Govt is lying about weed, they might also be lying about other drugs...

However there are also lies on the other end of the spectrum like weed is harmless, weed does not impair driving, etc.
 
2012-12-22 08:36:07 PM  

mjbok: stevenrushing: It would be interesting to see if the teen usage of harder drugs is also going up, to either finally put to rest or validate the "gateway drug" argument.

I know hundreds of people that have smoked pot that have never done coke. I don't know anyone that has done coke, shrooms, acid, PCP, meth, etc. that hasn't smoked pot.

Someone else in this thread pointed out that the "reefer madness" bs spewed out probably makes some who smoke pot think that if the Govt is lying about weed, they might also be lying about other drugs...

However there are also lies on the other end of the spectrum like weed is harmless, weed does not impair driving, etc.


Anyone that says weed doesn't impair driving is a damn dirty liar! It impairs you precisely as much as going to bed at 2AM and then driving to work does.

/not that much
 
2012-12-22 08:53:53 PM  

lewismarktwo: It impairs you precisely as much as going to bed at 2AM and then driving to work does.


NORML's own website states that "Marijuana has a measurable yet relatively mild effect on psychomotor skills, yet it does not appear to play a significant role in vehicle crashes, particularly when compared to alcohol." They go on to state that the reason it isn't considered as likely to be the cause of accidents is because people are more aware of their condition and adapt (driving slower for example) unlike people who are drunk that tend to be less careful.

If NORML says it has an effect (even if they downplay it) I would tend to believe them. I can only speak from personal experience that I've seen it have a negative effect on driving (and playing MarioKart).
 
2012-12-22 08:55:13 PM  
and an increase in Schizophrenia (no cure) is sure to follow.
 
2012-12-22 08:55:55 PM  

lewismarktwo: Mark Ratner: How much does a quarter bag of weed cost these days? Anyone? Just wondering.

Depends where you liiiive, maaaan. It goes from cheapest in on the west coast of US to most expensive on the east.

It also depends what strength you want, at least in the west.


$98-$130 at the dispensary I'm sitting in right now (San Francisco).
 
2012-12-22 09:13:50 PM  

Karne: basemetal: Karne: basemetal: And Cheeto sales........

Ha ha ha ha - Cheetos. Great one.
Maybe if you smoked it may help with your creativity.

Aww, did I hurt your wittle stoner feelings?

Yes, word hurt!
But try and say something original next time, instead of the first pedestrian Pavlovian dog response that pops into your straight and square big head. Thanks.


Like I've never been around stoners.

/sometimes humor is the irony of truth
 
2012-12-22 09:55:44 PM  
I live in WA and haven't seen a dealer yet.
 
2012-12-22 10:24:42 PM  
When I was in high school it went for $35 an ounce. Haven't smoked it in years. The ice is currently clinking in the glass of scotch I poured before wiring up a new doorbell. Maybe some of that stuff would be good for me these days.
 
2012-12-22 10:48:37 PM  

JPSimonetti: Jaws_Victim: You mean, legalizing marijuana leads to more people using it? And especially the dumbest, younger, hornier parts of our society? Whod a thunk it? Also, who cares?
/drtfa
//voted pro weed in wa st

Everyone should care, seeing as the effects of weed on any body that's 'still developing' (such as anyone under 18 or so) are at their worst. And it's not like other drugs where it's the same across the board, young to old. Weed does permanent damage to a developing kid on several important biological functions. That's a big deal. Adults? Who cares. Smoke it up. But kids are too stupid to know better, and they're the ones most at risk. Education on this stuff is incredibly important. Someone needs to tell the kids to hold off a few years before becoming pot heads.


www.city-data.com
 
2012-12-22 11:49:32 PM  

Linux_Yes: and an increase in Schizophrenia (no cure) is sure to follow.


www.city-data.com
 
2012-12-23 12:15:13 AM  

mjbok: I don't know anyone that has done coke, shrooms, acid, PCP, meth, etc. that hasn't smoked pot.


And how many of them had used alcohol and tobacco before pot?

The question isn't do people using harder drugs start out with marijuana, it is does using marijuana increase the chances of using marijuana.

People start out with what is easiest to access, most commonly use, (perceived as) safest, and cheapest. That would be alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana.
I would guess that most people that started with marijuana and moved on to crack were likely to take that step eventually and marijuana use had nothing to do with the crack (someone inclined to take drugs is inclined to take drugs, and will start out with what he has the best access to).
Another big issue is those that are forced into social circumstances by marijuana usage that encourage the use of worse drugs. The necessity of dealing with criminals and getting involved with people using other drugs is definitely going to increase your exposure and pressure to use other drugs.
 
2012-12-23 12:48:49 AM  
Studies show that kids who use heavy drugs often started out on oxygen.

Please, don't let your kids use oxygen.
 
2012-12-23 01:30:09 AM  

Karne: basemetal: And Cheeto sales........

Ha ha ha ha - Cheetos. Great one.
Maybe if you smoked it may help with your creativity.


Not your grammar though.
 
2012-12-23 02:03:38 AM  

lewismarktwo: Trollin4Colon: ... with the worst offender being 30 years old, no job, and living in Austin on his grandparents dime who cant really afford it (We did the math, hes costing them about 30 k a year to do nothing but be a loser)


What exactly is he doing to cost them 30k a year? And if they're really spending 30k a year then they can afford to put up one loser.



Apartment, plus all bills, plus smokes, weed and beer every night plus repair bills to his awful vehicles (that they bought for him). Grandma has been on dialisis for over a decade (!!!!) and grandpa will likely never retire because of him. farked up situation.

To be honest thou, all they have to do is cut him off and hed grow up quick so its definitely equal fault. I think after all these years theyve given up and accepted the situation which is sad in its own right.

It only costs him universal scorn from every single member in his family that he readily feels guilty about but not guilty enough to get a god damn job.
 
2012-12-23 04:34:18 AM  
The drug menace that's affecting the youth of America isn't pot. It's prescription painkillers like Oxycodone and benzos like Xanax that any middle-class high school kid can get their hands on. Sad, but true.

Ask the majority of heroin addicts under the age of 30 on how they started shooting up. Even money, they started on pills and switched to heroin after buying Oxy became too expensive.
 
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