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2012-12-22 11:23:26 AM  
"No, rats can't be trapped this easily. You're trapped like...carrots."
 
2012-12-22 11:39:11 AM  
he should've said potato... those are the real retards of the vegetable world.
 
2012-12-22 11:39:15 AM  
If they are in the 30's, we call them Raiders Fans out here.

/but from a distance
 
2012-12-22 11:40:02 AM  
Or in HR.
 
2012-12-22 11:40:59 AM  
"If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot"

or, you are probably a school official.
 
2012-12-22 11:41:45 AM  
While perhaps offensive to both carrots and mentally handicapped people, the carrots are at least taking it with some humor.
 
2012-12-22 11:41:59 AM  
I don't have a problem with this statement at all.
 
2012-12-22 11:43:14 AM  
If your IQ is 60 you probably aren't watching TV interviews with Mensa representatives, and even if you are you wouldn't recognize that as an insult.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-12-22 11:43:44 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot"

or, you are probably a school official.


Or you're in the CEO class.
 
2012-12-22 11:43:54 AM  
Came for the William Atherton picture.

Left disappointed.
 
2012-12-22 11:44:08 AM  
Jesus Iscarrot?

/you say potato
 
2012-12-22 11:44:13 AM  
I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.
 
2012-12-22 11:44:13 AM  
I don't know. Sometimes the smart move is to do nothing, so often people behave less intelligently than carrots.

/Stu isn't a name, it's a thick soup!
 
2012-12-22 11:46:41 AM  
d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net
 
2012-12-22 11:47:01 AM  
Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?
 
2012-12-22 11:48:30 AM  
That was an insult to carrots. He should have been politically correct and said mentality of a soap dish.
 
2012-12-22 11:49:28 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


when language was invented
 
2012-12-22 11:50:15 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Sit a carrot in front of an iq test and see how well it scores, Mr Reality. Don't forget to let it train to write IQ tests like most Mensa members do.
 
2012-12-22 11:50:16 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Pretty sure carrots have an IQ around 0, so I can understand the outrage.
 
2012-12-22 11:50:44 AM  
I honestly thought they were calling me "stud".
 
2012-12-22 11:50:57 AM  
Rob Schneider?
 
2012-12-22 11:51:32 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Because according to someone in the article an IQ of 60 is a "learning" disability instead of being barely able to know how to take a breath.
 
2012-12-22 11:51:41 AM  
But you may well be a regular contributor on the Fark politics tab.
 
2012-12-22 11:51:54 AM  
"If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot politician."
 
2012-12-22 11:52:27 AM  
If you have an IQ somewhere around 60, then you are probably on the DBA team where I work.

"Please be excusing me, but I am not able to run the snap shot script. Please do the needful, see the output below:

#Snapshot failed. Database is currently running. Please stop the database and try again. See /tmp/snap.log for details."
 
2012-12-22 11:53:02 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Saying that they are "carrots" implies that they are lump, inert objects that do nothing.

Yeah, someone with an IQ below 70 isn't exactly a rocket scientist, but they can, and do, live productive lives, and they don't need smug asshats like this douche coming down on them.
 
2012-12-22 11:53:47 AM  
My IQ was tested at Boston University at +130, but I have schizophrenia and I am a carrot
 
2012-12-22 11:55:09 AM  
Wait, are they now calling stupid a learning disability?
 
2012-12-22 11:55:31 AM  
It's this bullshiat attitude that caused me to reject Mensa. Yes I could have joined easily. That, however, is not the point. Their recruiting materials are so... arrogant. It's sickening.
 
2012-12-22 11:55:41 AM  
blogs.reuters.com
 
2012-12-22 11:56:35 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


It was part of the whole self esteem thing, everyone is special, everyone is perfect, and everyone gets a trophy.

A few weeks ago someone in the office used the term retard and a few people went off on how it was offensive. I had to bring up the fact that retard basically means to slow, and that mental retardation is a valid medical term in the DSM-IV. They still argued that people shouldn't be called retarded because it was offensive and they were just different.
 
2012-12-22 11:58:27 AM  

Lt_Ryan: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

It was part of the whole self esteem thing, everyone is special, everyone is perfect, and everyone gets a trophy.

A few weeks ago someone in the office used the term retard and a few people went off on how it was offensive. I had to bring up the fact that retard basically means to slow, and that mental retardation is a valid medical term in the DSM-IV. They still argued that people shouldn't be called retarded because it was offensive and they were just different.


I once had sex with someone who was slow. My friends told me I was farking retarded.
 
2012-12-22 11:58:38 AM  

Massa Damnata: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

Sit a carrot in front of an iq test and see how well it scores, Mr Reality. Don't forget to let it train to write IQ tests like most Mensa members do.


So, what's your IQ?
 
2012-12-22 12:00:35 PM  

Massa Damnata: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

Sit a carrot in front of an iq test and see how well it scores, Mr Reality.


I am no expert but I bet the headline is accurate and it would score less than 70...
 
2012-12-22 12:02:08 PM  
I would have gone with "Republican" myself.
 
2012-12-22 12:03:05 PM  
img38.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-22 12:03:34 PM  

Lt_Ryan: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

It was part of the whole self esteem thing, everyone is special, everyone is perfect, and everyone gets a trophy.

A few weeks ago someone in the office used the term retard and a few people went off on how it was offensive. I had to bring up the fact that retard basically means to slow, and that mental retardation is a valid medical term in the DSM-IV. They still argued that people shouldn't be called retarded because it was offensive and they were just different.


These people would have a heck of a time in auto shop then..wouldn't they.
Okay kids today we're going to learn about ignition timing and the effects of advancing and potato(e)ing the spark.
 
2012-12-22 12:05:21 PM  
Guess that makes Fark a garden?
 
2012-12-22 12:05:34 PM  
Woah! An evil broccoli pic...
 
2012-12-22 12:08:23 PM  
Or a Republican-Teatard / Politician.
 
2012-12-22 12:08:33 PM  
bell curves, how do they work?

expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.
 
2012-12-22 12:08:52 PM  
"Moron" was a term applied to people with an IQ of 51 to 70.

/you moran
 
2012-12-22 12:09:29 PM  
And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!"
 
2012-12-22 12:10:13 PM  
I am a carrot, and (turtle) I take offense to this, turtle turtle...
 
2012-12-22 12:11:11 PM  

calbert: he should've said potato... those are the real retards of the vegetable world.


i1136.photobucket.com

Oh, a wiseguy, eh?
 
2012-12-22 12:11:12 PM  

oryx: "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot politician."


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-22 12:14:20 PM  
British Mensa apologised for the comment, saying it was: "totally inappropriate and does not represent the society's official position or view".

Despite the fact that this is the entire reason Mensa exists. I imagine they get their IQ tested over and over again, and wear name-tags with their highest score prominently displayed.
 
2012-12-22 12:15:21 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.


IQ tests measure something, but it probably isn't intelligence, despite the tests' name.
 
2012-12-22 12:16:32 PM  
2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com
 
2012-12-22 12:19:10 PM  
 
2012-12-22 12:26:14 PM  
Did he just call Fark Independents carrots?

img689.imageshack.us

/DNRTFA
 
2012-12-22 12:27:51 PM  

nardman: I don't have a problem with this statement at all.


I have no problem with the sentiment, but I do have a problem with the tactfulness. Someone bright enough to represent Mensa in public should have a working knowledge of social mores. Friggin' carrot.
 
2012-12-22 12:28:34 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: bell curves, how do they work?
[expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com image 591x303]
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.


You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.
 
2012-12-22 12:30:42 PM  
A number of viewers contacted the programme to voice concerns over the remarks, which they said insulted people with learning difficulties

Is it insulting to people with learning disabilities to explain in your sub-head that "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot", which is in your headline, is an insult?
 
2012-12-22 12:31:49 PM  
farm2.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-22 12:31:59 PM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


When people who aren't very bright started having feelings, I guess. It's really all their fault when you think about it.
 
2012-12-22 12:32:25 PM  

odinkirk: Came for the William Atherton picture.

Left disappointed.


www.freeinfosociety.com

"This is coherent light."

"So it talks?"
 
2012-12-22 12:33:33 PM  
This guy is just a dick. Hi dude, I don't give two shiats about how smart you are if you have no desire to contribute to society in a meaningful way. There are plenty of people with IQs of 60 and under who manage to live meaningful lives, help others, and there are countless people who love and care for them (and vice versa). If you can't see something that simple, then I don't think you are putting your big brain to any use.

I'm not smart enough to join Mensa (pretty sure) but I don't have a problem with people who want to hang out with people who have similar interests. I do have a problem with people who want to use their position of power to degrade other people. You suck.
 
2012-12-22 12:33:49 PM  

cryinoutloud: The_Original_Roxtar: bell curves, how do they work?
[expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com image 591x303]
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.


A lot of the bottom 1% shows up in the Politics Tab, do it evens out in the end.
 
2012-12-22 12:33:56 PM  

smimmy: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

When people who aren't very bright started having feelings, I guess. It's really all their fault when you think about it.


This, basically. There's nothing those folks did to deserve it, there's nothing they can do about it, and to insult them for it is denigrating. You can acknowledge that a low IQ means a significant disadvantage for those folks, but you don't have to be a friggin' carrot about it.
 
2012-12-22 12:35:34 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [blogs.reuters.com image 490x323]


man homegrown carrots are weird looking but so good. One of those foods where you eat the homegrown version and think 'wow, the store bought version is gonna taste like cardboard after this.'
 
2012-12-22 12:35:36 PM  
So calling people with an IQ below 60 a carrot was insulting to people with learning disablities? Then Einstein, who was dyslexic, must really piss the carrots off.

/Dyslexic
//Not a genius
 
2012-12-22 12:41:01 PM  
I thought Peter Boyle was dead?
 
2012-12-22 12:43:17 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com image 473x691]


Astounding, collegehumor.com is sticking their watermark on someone else's work?

/"Imitation is not the best form of flattery, imitation is the best form of a LAWSUIT!" - Rev. Ivan Stang
 
2012-12-22 12:44:59 PM  
Well, I'm not offended for myself. But I AM offended for other people who aren't bright enough to be offended themselves.

Next up, I will be offended for people who are thousands of miles away and that I have never met.
 
2012-12-22 12:46:43 PM  

cryinoutloud: The_Original_Roxtar: bell curves, how do they work?
[expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com image 591x303]
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.


Self-selecting bias. Fark is not a random sample. We are people interested in the world around us and exchanging ideas (or trolling one another). These are not typical traits in the population at large. Most people I have known are ignorant and revel in it. I've literally known hundreds of people who are like that. The few people I have known who are smart belong to communities like Fark.

And yes, even those idiots here who hold stupid opinions I happen to disagree with are smarter than the average carrot. You will find no carrots among us. We are topheavy with smart people.

And if I'm any indication, bottomheavy with smart people too :(
 
2012-12-22 12:49:55 PM  

Mister Peejay: Astounding, collegehumor.com is sticking their watermark on someone else's work?


Yeah I took one look at that and said to myself "that looks a lot like a PBF comic". Is collegehumor.com a subsidiary of 9gag?
 
2012-12-22 12:53:26 PM  
I'm not sure if you can measure intelligence. I pretty sure no written test will do a very good job. It IS, however, an excellent way to single out insufferable douche bags.
 
2012-12-22 12:53:32 PM  
Also a member of the NRA or the Tea Party or both
 
2012-12-22 12:57:30 PM  
OK, so what groups are we still allowed to make fun of? I thought stupid people were still fair game.
 
2012-12-22 12:58:58 PM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


IQ tests are not really a measure of anything important. Of course some one who had mental disabilities will do badly on any written test. But the reverse is not true.

Written test are used because they are cheap, easy and relatively few people do well on them. The fact that they suck at determining anything meaningful is over shadowed by these facts.
 
2012-12-22 01:00:44 PM  

cryinoutloud:

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.


And they're always eager to point it out in a self-deprecating manner.
 
2012-12-22 01:02:40 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.


I've known people with a 20 INT and a WIS of 6.
 
2012-12-22 01:04:40 PM  

BolloxReader: cryinoutloud: The_Original_Roxtar: bell curves, how do they work?
[expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com image 591x303]
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.

Self-selecting bias. Fark is not a random sample. We are people interested in the world around us and exchanging ideas (or trolling one another). These are not typical traits in the population at large. Most people I have known are ignorant and revel in it. I've literally known hundreds of people who are like that. The few people I have known who are smart belong to communities like Fark.

And yes, even those idiots here who hold stupid opinions I happen to disagree with are smarter than the average carrot. You will find no carrots among us. We are topheavy with smart people.

And if I'm any indication, bottomheavy with smart people too :(


If you want to see ignorance accessing the internet en masse, go read the comments under a Yahoo News article.
 
2012-12-22 01:12:29 PM  

Victoly: oryx: "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot politician."

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 297x223]

"I don't see anything in your report that raises safety and soundness problems." [in regards to Freddie and Fannie Mac]

www.biography.com

"Part one, don't get sick. Part two, if you do get sick... Part three, die quickly." [claims to be Republican health plan]
upload.wikimedia.org

"We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it" [regarding passing the Obama Healthcare Bill]
siglo21.com

Those are the first three to come to mind, but as "republicans' were attacked first I found other 'politicians' who are just as stupid, if not worse.
 
2012-12-22 01:16:16 PM  
Mensa [men-suh] noun:

1. An organization who's participants are retarded enough to pay dues to someone that tells them they are a genius for doing it.
 
2012-12-22 01:19:25 PM  
"Is there a Mr Gump, Mrs Gump?"

"He's on vacation."

cdn1.hark.com
 
2012-12-22 01:19:57 PM  

BadAttitude4U: Mensa [men-suh] noun:

1. An organization who's participants are retarded enough to pay dues to someone that tells them they are a genius for doing it.


Mensa [men-suh] noun:

1. An organization whose participants are retarded enough to pay dues to someone that tells them they are a genius for doing it.

FTFM...I was almost clever for a minute..
 
2012-12-22 01:22:43 PM  

Super Chronic: But you may well be a regular contributor on the Fark politics tab.


Thread's over. Turn out the lights.
 
2012-12-22 01:24:50 PM  
How many carrots can you outsmart?
 
2012-12-22 01:25:20 PM  

Mister Peejay: collegehumor.com


Yeah I noticed that. If they won't go after Ebaum...
 
2012-12-22 01:27:41 PM  
"If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot"

I would have to imagine that stumps and/or rocks must be happy that the focus of intelligence comparison is finally off of them for a change.
 
2012-12-22 01:30:07 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.


Same here. Breezed through MIT with a 4.8/5.0, can do math tricks and ace any test. Not so smart though in many areas. Like grammar. And writing complete sentences.
 
2012-12-22 01:38:43 PM  

Tourney3p0: cryinoutloud:

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.

And they're always eager to point it out in a self-deprecating manner.


Do they really think they're getting away with complimenting themselves when they do that? "I have a 165 IQ but I'm like soooooo dumb, lol! My 165 IQ doesn't mean anything, did I mention that I have a 165 IQ, and how meaningless it is?"
 
2012-12-22 01:38:44 PM  

Buttbone McGillicutty: And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!"


Came here for this.
 
2012-12-22 01:41:12 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Tourney3p0: cryinoutloud:

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.

And they're always eager to point it out in a self-deprecating manner.

Do they really think they're getting away with complimenting themselves when they do that? "I have a 165 IQ but I'm like soooooo dumb, lol! My 165 IQ doesn't mean anything, did I mention that I have a 165 IQ, and how meaningless it is?"


Math is hard.
 
2012-12-22 01:43:31 PM  
menses plural of men·ses (Noun)
Noun
Blood and other matter discharged from the uterus at menstruation.
The time of menstruation.
Synonyms
menstruation - period - periods - monthlies


/carrot
//who got into Mensa
///who got into Mensa?
////who got into menses
//ew.
 
2012-12-22 01:47:21 PM  

hitlersbrain: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

IQ tests are not really a measure of anything important. Of course some one who had mental disabilities will do badly on any written test. But the reverse is not true.

Written test are used because they are cheap, easy and relatively few people do well on them. The fact that they suck at determining anything meaningful is over shadowed by these facts.


Yet IQ tests have a pretty good predictive value when assessing various areas of professional life.

And sure, it is not the be all end all of intelligence but people who score low are very likely to be less intelligent than people who score high.
 
2012-12-22 01:49:56 PM  
Mensa, a bunch of smart people too stupid to actually do anything constructive with a bunch of smart people.
 
2012-12-22 01:50:26 PM  
Came here for Carrot Top, left both disappointed and relieved at the same time.
 
2012-12-22 01:51:52 PM  
Aww crap!
How many memory synapses wasted on that?
At my age, probably crowded out one of my fave childhood memories.

/if only there were a safe, effective recreational medicine that could save me from converting short to long term memory
 
2012-12-22 01:53:48 PM  
IQ of 60? I'd believe it.


www.showtickets.com
 
2012-12-22 01:55:53 PM  
...29 seconds...

*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-12-22 02:00:50 PM  
I used to be impressed with IQ tests, until one of my kids tested at 140 and, then 2 years later, tested again at 70. He's developmentally about 6-8 years old, and all the professionals say he's pretty much topped out. But give him tools, and he can fix all kinds of stuff, even if he can't tell you the name of the appliance, or its use. It's fascinating and heartbreaking to watch.
 
2012-12-22 02:01:37 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-22 02:04:46 PM  

d23: Day_Old_Dutchie: "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot"

or, you are probably a school official.

Or you're in the CEO class.


Or you're proudly serving in the Ankh-Mopork City Watch.
 
2012-12-22 02:08:54 PM  

cryinoutloud: The_Original_Roxtar: bell curves, how do they work?
[expressiveepicurean.files.wordpress.com image 591x303]
so, at 60, you're almost 3 standard deviations below the mean, in the bottom 1% of people.

You know, it's amazing how many of the .1% (IQs over 145) are here on Fark. By the sounds of the threads, every single one of those people has a Fark account, and an IQ of 145 is on the low end.


Anyone here ever take the WAIS-IV? I did scored really well on half of the tests ( Verbal Comprehension,Perceptual Reasoning), ok on Working Memory, and piss-poor on Processing Speed.

My composite score, IIRC, fell in the "average" range...
 
2012-12-22 02:18:41 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.


Yup. Agreed. I scored really well on some tests back in school and i'm sure i woulda qualified for Mensa, but I do these things that belie that IQ is not an indicator of smarts:

a) If I'm not actively engaged in remembering where I parked, it'll be a complete blank for me coming out of a mall. If I say to myself "3rd row from the door, west side, 18th spot" and just look for a second, no problem, done. But I get so absorbed in my own thoughts (or go completely blank, which is something i do SO often, like a walking meditation!).

b) I'm an accountant, I know numbers and I can work out strategies for financing, etc, but in my own personal life, I waste money and have a big debt, because despite my 'smarts', I'm an instant-gratification personality-type.

IQ is not the be-all of intelligence indicators. It's more of a test of pattern recognition skills.
 
2012-12-22 02:34:58 PM  

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Why would anyone publicly acknowledge reading 9gag?
 
2012-12-22 02:38:21 PM  
There's always job opportunities for the room temperature IQ's in law enforcement, Unions, or as progressives.
 
2012-12-22 02:38:40 PM  

Enigmamf: Fark Rye For Many Whores: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 593x585]

Why would anyone publicly acknowledge reading 9gag?


Did you not understand the headline? ;-)
 
2012-12-22 02:40:42 PM  

Slam1263: There's always job opportunities for the room temperature IQ's in law enforcement, Unions, or as progressives.


you forgot city planners
 
2012-12-22 02:43:26 PM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Clearly, to acknowledge reality, we must insult disabled people. Anything less is ignoring how the world works in favor of pretending we live in utopia.
 
2012-12-22 02:47:49 PM  

Shmeat: IQ of 60? I'd believe it.


Meth: Not even once.
 
2012-12-22 02:54:58 PM  
People with an IQ below 60 are the ones that post they have an IQ of 150 because they took an online IQ test which told them so.
 
2012-12-22 02:56:21 PM  

diaphoresis: Slam1263: There's always job opportunities for the room temperature IQ's in law enforcement, Unions, or as progressives.

you forgot city planners


....and middle management
 
2012-12-22 02:58:05 PM  

Enigmamf: Fark Rye For Many Whores: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 593x585]

Why would anyone publicly acknowledge reading 9gag?


diaphoresis: Did you not understand the headline? ;-)


Hey, be nice you evil bastard.

This is what I get for posted rehosted images, and this is twice in the same damn thread today.
 
2012-12-22 03:12:04 PM  
Bunch of 85s got mad when they though he was talking about them.
 
2012-12-22 03:15:23 PM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


Because he didn't mean it that way, and you know it.

He wasn't saying "Low IQ individuals are mildly retarded" he was comparing them to vegetables, which isn't the same thing at all. It's like calling black people "darkies" and trying to defend it by saying "anyone with a great deal of melanin in their skin is considered 'darker' than those from higher latitudes."
 
2012-12-22 03:15:33 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Enigmamf: Fark Rye For Many Whores: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 593x585]

Why would anyone publicly acknowledge reading 9gag?

diaphoresis: Did you not understand the headline? ;-)

Hey, be nice you evil bastard b*tch.

This is what I get for posted rehosted images, and this is twice in the same damn thread today.


My apologies...
 
2012-12-22 03:25:41 PM  
Favorite quote re: this topic:

"You know what the difference between her IQ and mine is? 91 points. In relation, she's closer to a gibbon than she is to me. Having sex with her would be an act of bestiality."
-James Sidas, House


/My IQ is several points below normal right now because BEER.
 
2012-12-22 03:38:25 PM  
randomjsa
Mensa, a bunch of smart people too stupid to actually do anything constructive with a bunch of smart people.

Actually, they're bright enough to realize that high IQ doesn't make you better at ditch digging than a professional ditch digger. Mensa is a social (drinking) organization and they have rules against issuing group opinions.
 
2012-12-22 03:38:41 PM  

jst3p: Massa Damnata: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

Sit a carrot in front of an iq test and see how well it scores, Mr Reality.

I am no expert but I bet the headline is accurate and it would score less than 70...



A carrot has no intentionality. If you think carrots can "score", or that IQ is a meaningful standard for lifeforms with no capacity for intelligence, then you probably aren't as intelligent as you think you are.
 
2012-12-22 03:39:24 PM  
i.ytimg.com
 
2012-12-22 03:43:23 PM  

diaphoresis: My apologies...


:D
weknowmemes.com
 
2012-12-22 03:44:27 PM  
Tired as hell of the people who become offended of behalf of others.

"I have a cousin who's cognitively unique, so I'M OFFENDED."
 
2012-12-22 03:51:13 PM  
Lot of butt hurt in this thread.  White-knighting for a carrot won't get you laid by said carrot.
 
2012-12-22 03:56:21 PM  

yesanded: Tired as hell of the people who become offended of behalf of others.

"I have a cousin who's cognitively unique, so I'M OFFENDED."


Sucks to be you.
 
2012-12-22 03:56:22 PM  
Shouldn't someone from Mensa know that IQ is generally considered BS?  Or do they actually use IQ as a metric.

I thought they had their own test.
 
2012-12-22 04:02:14 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.


Same here.  Now, I've never measured my IQ nor have I taken the Mensa test.  I bet I'd pass.

But I'm absolutely stupid in many other parts of life.  Ask my wife about how I never know how to get to any place we're driving, even if its 10 blocks away, on a gridded street system... and we've been there hundreds of times.

I'm surprised I can tie my shoes!

And fark it all to hell if you ask me to do two things at once.
 
2012-12-22 04:05:32 PM  

yesanded: Tired as hell of the people who become offended of behalf of others.

"I have a cousin who's cognitively unique, so I'M OFFENDED."


thumbs.dreamstime.com

Hey everyone? Lets all stop hurting yesanded with our compassion, its really offending me

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2012-12-22 04:06:28 PM  
One of my favorite Mensa commentaries
 
2012-12-22 04:13:44 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: diaphoresis: My apologies...

:D
[weknowmemes.com image 532x501]


Wow, that's, uh, hmm.

(walks off whistling)
 
2012-12-22 04:43:38 PM  

FormlessOne: nardman: I don't have a problem with this statement at all.

I have no problem with the sentiment, but I do have a problem with the tactfulness. Someone bright enough to represent Mensa in public should have a working knowledge of social mores. Friggin' carrot.


See, that's the thing. The two are not really connected. Many very smart people have a near complete lack of social skills.

I also know several people with nosebleed IQs who are completely lacking in common sense.
 
2012-12-22 05:09:04 PM  
anyone that bothers to provide the documentation to get into mensa is an epic asshole.
 
2012-12-22 05:24:12 PM  

namegoeshere:
I also know several people with nosebleed IQs who are completely lacking in common sense.


Probably because there isn't any such thing as common sense.
 
2012-12-22 05:38:02 PM  

downstairs: Shouldn't someone from Mensa know that IQ is generally considered BS?  Or do they actually use IQ as a metric.

I thought they had their own test.


IQ is not "generally considered BS", just a much smaller indicator of potential and predictor of achievement than people often believe; as well, without proper psychometric training, the results are not accurate. What we have is IQ through the same misunderstood and misrepresented media lens as any other science in the popular culture. IQ has great value in being a reliable measure of something related to intelligence in general since we have nothing else; we can use the score as a broad diagnostic tool for developmental delay and acceleration, but intelligence is hard to quantify considering the range of human achievements and capacities.

Used and understood properly, IQ is useful. Bragging rights from some Internet test is not.
 
2012-12-22 05:41:00 PM  

Vangor: downstairs: Shouldn't someone from Mensa know that IQ is generally considered BS?  Or do they actually use IQ as a metric.

I thought they had their own test.

IQ is not "generally considered BS", just a much smaller indicator of potential and predictor of achievement than people often believe; as well, without proper psychometric training, the results are not accurate. What we have is IQ through the same misunderstood and misrepresented media lens as any other science in the popular culture. IQ has great value in being a reliable measure of something related to intelligence in general since we have nothing else; we can use the score as a broad diagnostic tool for developmental delay and acceleration, but intelligence is hard to quantify considering the range of human achievements and capacities.

Used and understood properly, IQ is useful. Bragging rights from some Internet test is not.


I bet 99% of the people in mensa just sent in a copy of their mcat, lsat, gre scores. you'd have to be a special type of asshole to pay to get a real iq test to get in.
 
2012-12-22 05:43:52 PM  

DerAppie: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

Because according to someone in the article an IQ of 60 is a "learning" disability instead of being barely able to know how to take a breath.


Well, but that dude is a success because he's living by himself, because that frankly only takes enough intelligence to be able to wipe your own arse.

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Since when is it called learning difficulties? That doesn't sound correct. If you're not able to understand patterns, then you don´t have learning difficulties, that would be because you're stupid.
 
2012-12-22 05:52:47 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: It's this bullshiat attitude that caused me to reject Mensa. Yes I could have joined easily. That, however, is not the point. Their recruiting materials are so... arrogant. It's sickening.


Only 2% of the worlds population receive an IQ score high enough to join Mensa and they are all here on Fark.

Amazing.
 
2012-12-22 05:57:55 PM  

Hoopy Frood: A number of viewers contacted the programme to voice concerns over the remarks, which they said insulted people with learning difficulties

Is it insulting to people with learning disabilities to explain in your sub-head that "If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot", which is in your headline, is an insult?


If any of these people with IQs of 60 and below actually watched the program or even understood the program it would be because another person explained or complained about it to them in terms that a carrot could understand. Or perhaps their iQ is not actually that low and it is just the testing that makes it appear low. Give another type of test and they would get a higher score.
 
2012-12-22 06:01:01 PM  

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Really? I've got to point out that College Humor is stealing content from Perry Bible Fellowship.

pbfcomics.com

I'm guessing a carrot's working at College Humor.
 
2012-12-22 06:23:58 PM  

spawn73: DerAppie: redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?

Because according to someone in the article an IQ of 60 is a "learning" disability instead of being barely able to know how to take a breath.

Well, but that dude is a success because he's living by himself, because that frankly only takes enough intelligence to be able to wipe your own arse.

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Since when is it called learning difficulties? That doesn't sound correct. If you're not able to understand patterns, then you don´t have learning difficulties, that would be because you're stupid.


I don't know the English term, but we have the term "maakbaarheid van de samenleving" which roughly translates to "formative potential of society." The person who thinks that an IQ of 60 is a learning disability just believes very strongly that society can be fashioned into some sort of utopian ideal if everyone would just co-operate. If we just invest enough time and money on something we can completely change its nature. So the person with a 60 point IQ would no longer be mentally retarded because by some not quite magical intervention we can make them "normal."

People who believe that society can be created believe that differences between people are consequences of nurture while people who believe that everyone has build in limits and thus that we'll always have criminals, hobos and little who prefer dolls over cars are more in the nature camp. And as with so many things the truth is in the middle. Although personally I wouldn't mind being on record as believing that it leans more to nature than nurture in this case. Smart but uneducated beats stupid but educated. At age 18 you can learn to read (with effort) and you can learn all kinds of stuff which will propel you forward in the world. At age 18 you can't raise your IQ by 40 points in order to become better at recognising patterns and processing information.
 
2012-12-22 06:28:07 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: [www.vh1.com image 550x332]


Okay, I am now satisfied with the thread.
 
2012-12-22 08:00:04 PM  

spawn73: Since when is it called learning difficulties? That doesn't sound correct.


This actually pissed me right off, as the mom of a kid with an IQ that scares me in a one-lab-accident-away-from-a-supervillain sort of way and a whole host of learning disabilities. She's in all honors courses, high honor role*, and special ed.

It is okay to say Mentally Retarded. Or Developmentally Disabled. But plenty of LD kids are smart as fark.

*the boy she's constantly fighting for the top class spot with is also LD.
 
2012-12-22 09:39:40 PM  
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2012-12-22 10:03:33 PM  
As someone who was offered the presidency of Mensa and turned it down (I have an IQ of 221). I have to say that Mensa is clearly trying to set a precedent so they may take our retarded children and make soup out of them.
 
2012-12-22 10:50:20 PM  

BadAttitude4U: As someone who was offered the presidency of Mensa and turned it down (I have an IQ of 221). I have to say that Mensa is clearly trying to set a precedent so they may take our retarded children and make soup out of them.


You forgot the part about always losing your car keys.
 
2012-12-22 11:03:51 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: BadAttitude4U: As someone who was offered the presidency of Mensa and turned it down (I have an IQ of 221). I have to say that Mensa is clearly trying to set a precedent so they may take our retarded children and make soup out of them.

You forgot the part about always losing your car keys.


Of course I did...it's really a miracle I'm still alive. I can't tie my shoes and I'm not allowed near plastic bags in fear that I may suffocate.
 
2012-12-22 11:16:55 PM  
I have been tested at a very high IQ.  Everyone in my family has it.  I never really realized that other kids weren't up there, too, for the most part.  But as an adult it seems to be pretty glaring.  With the high intelligence that comes in our family, also comes some world crushing depression issues, bipolar, borderline personality disorder and a place on the Asperger scale to some degree.

Occasionally, I have to go in-patient at the local psych hospital for medication adjustments.  75% of the other patients are there for drug or alcohol rehab.  The other 25% are psych patients.  It is then you realize that you are locked up in hell.  The rehab patients think that the height of entertainment can be found watching 16 and Pregnant or Housewives of Grand Forks.  They find the Blue Book of AA too hard to read and understand.  They plan how they are going to get more drugs when they get out (most are court ordered attendance).  The worst part is when the recreational therapist comes and makes you play a game together.  She picks Scrabble.  Hey, I like Scrabble.
First play by the blond druggie, who tried to smuggle oxi into the facility in her vagina, plays the word DOG.  The mouth breather guy who is wearing a t-shirt that says I WANT YOU TO BLOW ME plays GRUNT.  Not bad.  I play QUARK and am told that it is not a word.  I give the definition, insisting that yes, it is a word.  A dictionary is found and I get my points.  I am then told that I am not playing fair by using hard words that not everybody knows and am banned from the game for the duration of my stay.

Idiots.
 
2012-12-22 11:21:58 PM  

spidermilk: Clemkadidlefark: [blogs.reuters.com image 490x323]

man homegrown carrots are weird looking but so good. One of those foods where you eat the homegrown version and think 'wow, the store bought version is gonna taste like cardboard after this.'


If you pick them at the right time, for sure. They can get somewhat woody and lose their sugar if you let em get too big, but pick em young and they are great. Although supermarket carrots actually are not bad at all if you can find the young carrots by the bunch, with the tops still attached. Snap peas and especially tomatoes also benefit a lot from being eaten fresh. I eat sugarsnap peas off the vine like candy. Supermarket tomatoes, with the exception of any heirloom varieties you can rustle up during actual tomato season, are absolute crap. They work passably if you're going to cook them, but raw they're almost completely flavorless. Ripe off the vine, though, eating them plain or with a little salt and pepper is a treat.
 
2012-12-23 12:39:29 AM  

redking194: Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation.


Indeed, people with learning disabilities typically have an average or above average IQ.

What Baimbridge is referring to is people with mental retardation (categories: mild, moderate, severe, profound). The IQ range 50-55 to 70 is considered "mild retardation". These individuals typically have a maximum intellectual level of around Grade 6, but can hold a full-time job and marry and have children. Moderate MR (IQ 35-40 to 50-55) has an intellectual capacity of around Grade 2. Severe MR (IQ 20-25 to 35-40) requires constant supervision, and Profound MR (IQ less than 20-25) requires constant supervision in a nursing home.

redking194: Oh FFS [...] When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?.


Well, actually, it sounds like he's talking about Profound MR, so his IQ statement is high by about 35 points. In an article about Mensa, with quotes from several people with "high" IQs, it amazes me how ignorant they all seem to be about the topics they're discussing.

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2012-12-23 06:00:51 AM  

redking194: Oh FFS. Anyone with an IQ below 70 is considered to have at least mild mental retardation. When did acknowledging reality become a bad thing?


It's not acknowledging reality. It's insulting and hurtful. And, no. I'm not offended or outraged. Just think the guy's rather rude.
 
2012-12-23 09:25:28 AM  

cherryl taggart: I used to be impressed with IQ tests, until one of my kids tested at 140 and, then 2 years later, tested again at 70. He's developmentally about 6-8 years old, and all the professionals say he's pretty much topped out. But give him tools, and he can fix all kinds of stuff, even if he can't tell you the name of the appliance, or its use. It's fascinating and heartbreaking to watch.


Even from that brief description, I'm willing to bet the first test was Raven's Matrices (non-verbal, "pick the picture that fits the pattern"), and the second test was different - something with a verbal component.

Raven's can be used with kids as young as 5, and get a stable result, whereas the verbal-heavy tests are still pretty volatile at that age (because the kids are still learning to read). So, since schools want to stream children as early as possible, the first IQ test given tends to be Raven's. But there are lots of disorders (e.g., Downs Syndrome, Klinefelters, Autism) where a child will get really high Raven's scores only to have their poor verbal skills show up a few years later. Causes a lot of problems because it's misleading. Raven's Matrices really are one of the best tests of pure intelligence, but they aren't a good test of everyday functioning because they don't tap into verbal skills at all (and so much of everyday life depends on verbal communication).
 
2012-12-23 11:07:57 AM  

namegoeshere: FormlessOne: nardman: I don't have a problem with this statement at all.

I have no problem with the sentiment, but I do have a problem with the tactfulness. Someone bright enough to represent Mensa in public should have a working knowledge of social mores. Friggin' carrot.

See, that's the thing. The two are not really connected. Many very smart people have a near complete lack of social skills.

I also know several people with nosebleed IQs who are completely lacking in common sense.


That was kind of my point, as well. This guy shouldn't have been representing Mensa to the public, because he's apparently lacking in social skills.

As an aside, I'm also one of those people - I'm bright, but socially inept. It's fun explaining that to folks who keep trying to "promote" me into management positions. ("Damn it, Jim, I'm a software engineer, not a middle manager!") I'd much rather stare at code than coddle and cajole other folks staring at code.
 
2012-12-23 12:23:02 PM  

Guest: The All-Powerful Atheismo: It's this bullshiat attitude that caused me to reject Mensa. Yes I could have joined easily. That, however, is not the point. Their recruiting materials are so... arrogant. It's sickening.

Only 2% of the worlds population receive an IQ score high enough to join Mensa and they are all here on Fark.

Amazing.


By every test I've taken I'm in the top 1st percentile.

Of course IQ tests are pretty much crap, but way to be a dick about it. I hope you're proud of yourself.
 
2012-12-23 05:05:29 PM  
Last time I was tested I was at 136 but that was 50+ years ago.  Now I am a carrot and have the attention span of Adam's goldfish.
 
2012-12-23 05:19:34 PM  

uglyonef: Last time I was tested I was at 136 but that was 50+ years ago.  Now I am a carrot and have the attention span of Adam's goldfish.


img208.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-23 10:44:23 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I took the Mensa test years ago, just to see if I could pass. I did pass, but never joined. Why would I? I just wanted to see if I wasn't as stupid as I thought. Yet, in some ways, I am incredibly stupid. It's why I do not drive and have to be careful I don't wander or skate into the  street if I see something I find absolutely fascinating laying on  the ground. I'm surprised I've made it into my 40's, truth be told.

A high IQ does not equal "really smart" by any means. I'm living (so far) proof of that.

IQ tests measure something, but it probably isn't intelligence, despite the tests' name.


I think it measures the ability to do the IQ test.
 
2012-12-24 05:18:08 AM  

diaphoresis: but as "republicans' were attacked first


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