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2012-12-21 06:05:57 PM  
The Kryptos sculpture is really cool, but I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been deciphered in its entirety by the pros at the NSA. They're good sports to stay mum about it while the amateurs try their hand.
 
2012-12-21 06:14:24 PM  
Well played, subby.
 
2012-12-21 06:24:30 PM  
You know Palin or one of her agents searches for threads with her name to see what's being said about her.

Does she read it herself? Does her agent read it and not tell.her?

/agrees
 
2012-12-21 06:44:29 PM  
I think that's The Derpinci Code, subs
 
2012-12-21 07:07:57 PM  
Palindrones?
 
2012-12-21 07:20:26 PM  
Try using the number key I use for my luggage.

/12345
 
2012-12-21 07:31:38 PM  

alexanderplatz: The Kryptos sculpture is really cool, but I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been deciphered in its entirety by the pros at the NSA. They're good sports to stay mum about it while the amateurs try their hand.


I dunno. Kryptos seems to me more like the Statue of Liberty. Only tourists walk up that shiat (if you still can use the stairs) People who actually live nearby have to work for a living and there's quite enough stairs in their diet already. The reason the 4th panel took so long is because the people who MIGHT want to crack it or be able to are too busy cracking real codes to answer questions like "Where is is the terrorists hiding?"
 
2012-12-21 07:34:52 PM  
I was disappointed to find this guy missing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hampton_%28artist%29
 
2012-12-21 07:35:01 PM  
I love the dead people that just happen to have encrypted notes in their pockets. It makes me want to become an amateur cryptologist and carry my most recent ciphers around in my pocket or wallet.
 
2012-12-21 07:40:34 PM  
Wouldn't it be great if they decoded the Voynich Manuscript and it read "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"?
 
2012-12-21 07:44:49 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-21 07:57:36 PM  
Be...sure...to...drink...your....Ovaltine.
 
2012-12-21 07:58:51 PM  

Ennuipoet: Wouldn't it be great if they decoded the Voynich Manuscript and it read "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"?


Goddammit.
 
2012-12-21 08:02:34 PM  

alexanderplatz: The Kryptos sculpture is really cool, but I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been deciphered in its entirety by the pros at the NSA. They're good sports to stay mum about it while the amateurs try their hand.


How else would you find up and coming cryptographers?  Put up a "mystery" for them, and if you're skilled enough to solve it, the CIA/NSA/DIA want you.
 
2012-12-21 08:06:36 PM  
That joke is so 2008 subby.
 
2012-12-21 08:23:09 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x343]




Lol.
 
2012-12-21 08:40:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Palindrones?


She certainly does.
 
2012-12-21 09:04:44 PM  
Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.
 
2012-12-21 09:12:50 PM  
The Voynich manuscript is a con artists prop written in lorem ipsum so he could bestow knowledge from distant lands that only he could read.

There's also a case for some codes being the scribblings of mad men. A random string of characters that have been combed over to remove any semblance of a pattern would be sufficient to draw in a cryptanalyst for days.
 
2012-12-21 09:27:53 PM  
I submit this for headline of the year ... 2008
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-21 09:42:52 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Palindrones?


Palindrone = A statement which makes no sense when repeated forwards or backwards.
 
2012-12-21 09:48:17 PM  
I like how Fark encrypts Social Security numbers. Watch, it changes mine to 123-456-7890.
 
2012-12-21 09:51:03 PM  

Ennuipoet: Wouldn't it be great if they decoded the Voynich Manuscript and it read "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"?


I thought that the Voynich Manuscript was long ago established to be a medieval D&D monster book?
 
2012-12-21 09:55:16 PM  
I'm sure that it has occurred to someone that the crazy guy might just have been crazy and that the code is crazy jibberish. As for the well-dressed dead guy, I'd suspect partial words and acronyms before any sort of code. It's what I do when I'm writing things in a real big hurry and a stranger about to die from unknown causes is probably in a hurry.
 
2012-12-21 10:15:29 PM  

alexanderplatz: The Kryptos sculpture is really cool, but I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been deciphered in its entirety by the pros at the NSA. They're good sports to stay mum about it while the amateurs try their hand.


Or K4 hasn't been solved yet because people stopped trying and don't give a shiat anymore.
 
2012-12-21 10:29:32 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-12-21 11:01:08 PM  

MayoSlather: That joke is so 2008 subby.


Sarah Palin jokes never get old. And while we're at it: hey, how about that Adlai Stevenson?
 
2012-12-21 11:18:14 PM  
Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.
 
2012-12-21 11:21:34 PM  
Hasn't like 3/4 of Kryptos been cracked?
 
2012-12-21 11:22:05 PM  

Mattyb710: Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.


Your life from anywhere between 24 hours to the end of time is farked
 
2012-12-21 11:24:34 PM  
I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)
 
2012-12-21 11:31:20 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Mattyb710: Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.

Your life from anywhere between 24 hours to the end of time is farked


Well.......shiat.
 
2012-12-21 11:32:22 PM  

Mattyb710 Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.


There is something wrong. It is your fault. If she has to tell you what it is and get you to accept blame, you're only accepting blame because she asked you to. You should be more observant and probably psychic.
 
2012-12-21 11:33:47 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: (Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


Because this is a list of codes that have not been cracked. Meanwhile....
 
2012-12-21 11:38:41 PM  

Mattyb710: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Mattyb710: Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.

Your life from anywhere between 24 hours to the end of time is farked

Well.......shiat.


and she will want to start resolving it about 10 minutes before kickoff on Sunday.
 
2012-12-21 11:54:24 PM  

douchebag/hater: Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.


What does that have to do with anything? Elected to anything or not, Sarah Palin is still an idiot who can't assemble coherent sentences. Meanwhile, despite being one of the greatest mathematical geniuses ever to live, Emmy Noether never held office.
 
2012-12-22 12:13:33 AM  
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2012-12-22 12:16:47 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


The code-talkers worked from a predetermined dictionary to provide the first layer of obfuscation, and relied on the enemy's lack of knowledge of the Navajo language to provide the second.
 
2012-12-22 12:17:36 AM  

wildcardjack: The Voynich manuscript is a con artists prop written in lorem ipsum so he could bestow knowledge from distant lands that only he could read.

There's also a case for some codes being the scribblings of mad men. A random string of characters that have been combed over to remove any semblance of a pattern would be sufficient to draw in a cryptanalyst for days.


Yup.  Kryptos is the only one of those can be reliably be assumed to be an actual encryption.  The "unbroken" Zodiak cypher could easily be a sample of his first attempt at making a code, which didn't work because he didn't know what he was doing.  The "Taman Shud" one is most likely either a crazy man's scribblings, or an improperly formatted attempt at using a one-time pad.  It might just be some Persian guy who was practicing drawing letters in the Roman alphabet.

The rest are hoaxes, practical jokes, and schizophrenic scribblings.
 
2012-12-22 12:29:33 AM  

douchebag/hater: Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.


Very good, Sarah! I'm so proud of you! You used a three syllable word! AND you spelled governor correctly!
 
2012-12-22 12:37:27 AM  

NFA: RedPhoenix122: Palindrones?

Palindrone = A statement which makes no sense when repeated forwards or backwards.


Close, but a SarahPalindrome is a statement that makes the same amount of sense forward as it does backward.
 
2012-12-22 01:15:48 AM  

douchebag/hater: Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.


She has been elected as a governor once more than I have.

I have completed just as many terms of that office as she has.
 
2012-12-22 02:51:23 AM  
Whar Codex Seraphinianus, wha?
 
2012-12-22 03:25:53 AM  

HotWingAgenda: wildcardjack: The Voynich manuscript is a con artists prop written in lorem ipsum so he could bestow knowledge from distant lands that only he could read.

There's also a case for some codes being the scribblings of mad men. A random string of characters that have been combed over to remove any semblance of a pattern would be sufficient to draw in a cryptanalyst for days.

Yup.  Kryptos is the only one of those can be reliably be assumed to be an actual encryption.  The "unbroken" Zodiak cypher could easily be a sample of his first attempt at making a code, which didn't work because he didn't know what he was doing.  The "Taman Shud" one is most likely either a crazy man's scribblings, or an improperly formatted attempt at using a one-time pad.  It might just be some Persian guy who was practicing drawing letters in the Roman alphabet.

The rest are hoaxes, practical jokes, and schizophrenic scribblings.


This. Zodiac and McCormick were nutballs, and both of those texts are effectively "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" over and over again. Beale and Voynich are likely hoaxes. Elgar probably actually encoded something there (because Elgar was a bit wacky like that), but it's probably little more than a practical joke.
 
2012-12-22 06:12:41 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


It wasn't a cypher or code. It was a real, living language with thousasnds of speakers. It was simply too obcure to the Japanese for them to figure it out before it was too late - remember that when the war in the Pacific went south for the Japanese, it went fast. Given much time, they would have figured it out, and gotten ahold of people who could speak Dine' - but they didn't have time.
 
2012-12-22 07:10:33 AM  
kennethauthor.files.wordpress.com
YOU ARE A STRANGER!
 
2012-12-22 07:12:10 AM  
FTA "What coded message does a man send to a woman half his age?" asks Knight

5318008?
 
2012-12-22 07:43:45 AM  
Approves
www.supermanhomepage.com
 
2012-12-22 08:32:18 AM  

jso2897: Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)

It wasn't a cypher or code. It was a real, living language with thousasnds of speakers. It was simply too obcure to the Japanese for them to figure it out before it was too late - remember that when the war in the Pacific went south for the Japanese, it went fast. Given much time, they would have figured it out, and gotten ahold of people who could speak Dine' - but they didn't have time.


Well, except that it was a combination of a code and Diné. The Japanese eventually did find out it was in Diné and captured a few Navajo soldiers, but they weren't code talkers and couldn't figure it out.
 
2012-12-22 09:19:27 AM  
while repeating words at a much higher rate than other European languages. All told, the book has 170,000 characters in it, written from left to right, and there are no punctuation marks.

Its a paper on denying climate change, that's my bet.
 
2012-12-22 10:04:36 AM  
 
2012-12-22 10:06:55 AM  

Hollie Maea: Seraphinianus


Except for the page numberings, the author admitted it is gibberish. Reading it is supposed to be like a child who looks at a coffee table book and can see the pictures but not read the words.
 
2012-12-22 12:34:05 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


The code itself was pretty easy, as the Navajo didn't have native words for things like "battlships" and "tanks" they substituted words like "salmon" and "turtle."

The Japanese had a Navajo POW who had been captured before the Codetalker program, and while he understood the words, they didn't make sense in context. A simple, translated transcript could have been broken by Japanese codebrokers in a few days.

The dude was pretty hardcore. He survived the Bataan Death March, was singled out for extra torture because the Japanese had never seen a Native American before, and assumed he was half-Japanese and a "traitor" to the Emperor, and then he was transferred to a prison in Nagasaki, right before it was hit by the Atom Bomb.

Joe Kieyoomia
 
2012-12-22 01:21:01 PM  
Does James Joyce count as code?
 
2012-12-22 03:03:27 PM  

LDM90: I like how Fark encrypts Social Security numbers. Watch, it changes mine to 123-456-7890.


What is that, your phone number? Social security numbers are ###-##-####. So it changes mine to ***-**-****.

As to these codes, I'd really be interested in deciphering the Taman Shud or Zodiac codes.
 
2012-12-22 03:57:25 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


Actually, yes.

The code they used was actually fairly insecure. When the Navaho word for "tortoise" means "tank", well, you can see how easy something like that might be to crack.

It worked, though, not because it was uncrackable, but because of a combination of things:

1. It was only used for short-lived tactical messages. Because of that, it was used on short-range radio circuits. The ability for the Japanese to intercept it was limited in the vast Pacific.

2. Very few non-Navahos could understand the language. This isn't necessarily a deal killer: The Japanese had captured a native speaker, and had they properly exploited him, could have trained people.

3. The Japanese were terrible at signals intelligence. I mean, really, really *BAD*. Like, Three Stooges Incompetent-type bad. Even the friggin' *ITALIANS* were better at it then they were. They couldn't even break Playfair and simple strip ciphers, despite the fact that the principles used to attack them were know for well over 50 years at that point.
 
2012-12-22 05:28:39 PM  
This one's been around for way more than 10 years and only one person has solved it Copy this Weak Signal and WIN $100 !

I'd tell you who did it but ..... modesty forbids.
 
2012-12-22 05:33:32 PM  

LiquidTester: Hollie Maea: Seraphinianus

Except for the page numberings, the author admitted it is gibberish. Reading it is supposed to be like a child who looks at a coffee table book and can see the pictures but not read the words.


Yeah, but the art is still fun.
 
2012-12-22 06:38:01 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)


They didn't speak in code.
 
2012-12-22 10:26:31 PM  

LDM90: I like how Fark encrypts Social Security numbers. Watch, it changes mine to 123-456-7890.


hunter2
 
2012-12-23 12:57:57 AM  

spawn73: Huck And Molly Ziegler: I am quite certain my cat is telling me things very specific when he Meows; at other times he probably is wondering why I do not respond to his telepathic messages. I do not know cat-code, however.

(Hey, how come the Navaho "Codetalkers" of WWII weren't included here? Was their work "easy" compared to the items being described??)

They didn't speak in code.


Yes, they did. A simple one, but a code nonetheless.
 
2012-12-23 04:39:47 AM  

douchebag/hater: Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.


Get back to us when you've been promoted to drive-through window.

Any station will do, so knock yourself out.
 
2012-12-23 10:40:19 AM  
According to the "My way is the only right way and anyone who disagrees with me isn't legitimately disagreeing but is up to something evil" political philosophy it's racial code.
 
2012-12-23 06:59:26 PM  

Sgt Otter: Joe Kieyoomia


Alright I may be way off base and/or stoned about this, but doesn't that guy's story sound similar to the backstory of Raven's father from Snow Crash? Anybody? Anybody?

/bubllbubblbubblblub
//cough
 
2012-12-23 07:28:16 PM  

douchebag/hater: Subby?

Get back to us after you've been elected governor of state.

Any state will do, so knock yourself out.


Really?
 
2012-12-23 07:30:41 PM  

Mattyb710: Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.


Hint: Something's wrong.
 
2012-12-24 12:40:56 PM  

jking1247: Mattyb710: Well I don't really care about those codes as they don't really have any effect on my daily life. However, if someone could tell me what she means when she says "nothing's wrong!" I would be very grateful.

Hint: Something's wrong.


And how.
 
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