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(Mother Jones)   Congress: if we talk about messing with the 2nd Amendment, nobody will notice that we've been dismantling the 5th. BRILLIANT   (motherjones.com ) divider line
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2012-12-21 11:16:01 AM  
Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.
 
2012-12-21 11:20:42 AM  
Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.
 
2012-12-21 11:22:00 AM  
You really think we didn't notice that one?
 
2012-12-21 11:36:00 AM  

sammyk: Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.


What about the 3rd?  Get out of my house, Soldiers!  And my number is lower so it's clearly more important that yours.
 
2012-12-21 11:44:57 AM  

Lumpmoose: sammyk: Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.

What about the 3rd?  Get out of my house, Soldiers!  And my number is lower so it's clearly more important that yours.


To be fair the 3rd is very important. So important that it has never been the basis for a SCOTUS ruling ever.
 
2012-12-21 11:55:48 AM  
I... I just don't care. "Oh no, concatenating info they already had access too so a learning algorithm can help us identify issues better!" Meh.
 
2012-12-21 11:57:30 AM  
No no no -- the real threat to our Constitutional rights is Michelle telling us what we should feed our kids.

That is something I will never understand.  I rarely if ever hear conservatives complain about the truly unconsitutional things that have occurred or been perpetuated by Obama.  Just the dopey fabricated shiat.
 
2012-12-21 11:58:06 AM  
I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?
 
2012-12-21 12:00:47 PM  
The only reason this doesn't make me start writing representatives is because the Supreme Court has struck down these sort of rules every time, most notably and recently (in my knowledge) Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. So even if a President ever tried holding someone without trial, which I hope they wouldn't, the Supremem Court isn't going to let that fly.
 
2012-12-21 12:01:21 PM  

cman: I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?


I actually don't disagree, but I feel like we ought to fix the total shiatbag that is our corrupt system before we go doing that.
 
2012-12-21 01:00:38 PM  
Oh look, more lawmakers that don't know the law........
 
2012-12-21 01:05:49 PM  
Bravo, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA)

Thank god for the socialist libtard Democrat Party, amirite?
 
2012-12-21 01:09:40 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


So much this.
 
2012-12-21 01:31:28 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


What's the matter, hoss? Run out of minutes on your 0bamaphone?
 
2012-12-21 01:54:35 PM  

Shostie: Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.

What's the matter, hoss? Run out of minutes on your 0bamaphone?


I HOPE he has some CHANGE for a payphone! NEENER!
 
2012-12-21 02:05:09 PM  

LasersHurt: cman: I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?

I actually don't disagree, but I feel like we ought to fix the total shiatbag that is our corrupt system before we go doing that.


I hope you're trolling.
 
2012-12-21 02:19:15 PM  

duffblue: LasersHurt: cman: I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?

I actually don't disagree, but I feel like we ought to fix the total shiatbag that is our corrupt system before we go doing that.

I hope you're trolling.


No. They were great in getting us this far, but they are absolutes, and sometimes too broad.

I prefer a government of outcomes, one run by studied and scientific methods. One that does not use ideology, but open, verifiable fact to help make the country objectively "better" (yes, I realize the irony of those two words but I hope you know what I mean).

This does not mean an abandonment of the ideals, just the freedom to grow beyond their roots so long as it benefits all of us.
 
2012-12-21 02:45:05 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


All of this and: Washington is a festering bag of people who want "stuff".
 
2012-12-21 02:46:28 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURP!

KEEP ON SLURPING!

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHQAHAHAHHAAHAHAH~!

/ouch! damn, it hurts to do that! how does halfie keep it up?
 
2012-12-21 02:50:17 PM  

Lumpmoose:

Get out of my house, Soldiers!  And my number is lower so it's clearly more important that yours.into the schools where you belong!

FTF NRA
 
2012-12-21 02:55:36 PM  
Of the four main negotiators on the defense bill, only one of the Democrats, Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), opposes domestic indefinite detention of Americans. The Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.), believes detaining Americans without charge or trial is constitutional, and only voted for the Feinstein amendment because he and some of his Republican colleagues in the Senate convinced themselves through a convoluted legal rationale that Feinstein's proposal didn't actually ban the practice.

So we have one American and three traitors and/or morons on the armed services committee.
 
2012-12-21 02:58:54 PM  
awdsgn.com
 
2012-12-21 03:02:52 PM  
What a dumb NRA statement. He should have been more sympathetic.
 
2012-12-21 03:03:01 PM  
Pants full of macaroni!!:
SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURP! KEEP ON SLURPING!
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHQAHAHAHHAAHAHAH~!


Seriously "Pants", I think it's time for you to come out of the closet.
 
2012-12-21 03:03:08 PM  

Lumpmoose: sammyk: Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.

What about the 3rd?  Get out of my house, Soldiers!  And my number is lower so it's clearly more important that yours.


The Third Amendment only prohibits the federal government in peacetime. In case you haven't noticed, we're at war, Libtard - a war against TERROR ITSELF!
 
2012-12-21 03:03:40 PM  

LasersHurt: One that does not use ideology... This does not mean an abandonment of the ideals


By definition, those two are mutually exclusive.

LasersHurt: open, verifiable fact to help make the country objectively "better" (yes, I realize the irony of those two words but I hope you know what I mean).


I don't think anyone knows what you mean. Please explain.
 
2012-12-21 03:04:22 PM  
The 2nd amendment protects the rest of them derpderpderp.
 
2012-12-21 03:05:02 PM  
I don't think anyone knows what you mean. Please explain.

What do you not understand? Outcomes?
 
2012-12-21 03:06:41 PM  

cman: I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?


It would seem that some actually believe that. The constitution is so big though, it they can't fit it through the window all at once. They are behind it, pushing it out bit by bit. A little of the 4th there, a little of the 5th there, the second seemed stuck on the window pane but it might be wriggled free any moment.

Eventually, like any big object, enough of it will be out of the window that it will completely fall out of it's own accord.

OOO is the real housewives on??? get the popcorn.
 
2012-12-21 03:06:51 PM  

sammyk: Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.


If only we had an Amendment that would have allowed us to arm ourselves, that would allow us to put Govt in check when they start taking away rights.

Gun nuts remind me of what HL Mencken once said about Prohibition: the working man doesn't care about his rights or the Constitution, he cares about his beer. 2Aers would let the entire Bill of Rights fall, as long as nobody touched the 2nd. Somehow it's only the 2nd that keeps you free from Govt tyranny.

Thanks 2Aers, always knew we could count on you!
 
2012-12-21 03:12:50 PM  
"But it ensures that the next time a president tries to lock up an American citizen without trial-as President George W. Bush previously tried-it will be left up to the courts to decide whether or not it's legal."

Which is why Obama signed it in the first place, the man is not stupid; he knows only court precedent can put another nail in the coffin of indefinite detention and strengthen civil liberties. It doesn't take a roads scholar to figure that out you idiots.
 
2012-12-21 03:16:37 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


+1
 
2012-12-21 03:19:09 PM  

willfullyobscure: "But it ensures that the next time a president tries to lock up an American citizen without trial-as President George W. Bush previously tried-it will be left up to the courts to decide whether or not it's legal."

Which is why Obama signed it in the first place, the man is not stupid; he knows only court precedent can put another nail in the coffin of indefinite detention and strengthen civil liberties. It doesn't take a roads scholar to figure that out you idiots.


I won my Roads scholarship due to my excellent paving and steamrolling skills.
 
2012-12-21 03:25:15 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


uh huh. You never make a dumb move. Its always the best possible move.

So where's the Obama criticism? Where's the heat on him to do the right thing?

Let me guess, you dont dare criticize him because the scary Republican boogeyman is worse.
 
2012-12-21 03:27:07 PM  
What about the 15th? Country has been going to hell in a handbasket ever since that one. Am I right Republicans?
 
2012-12-21 03:33:04 PM  
You due-process nuts need to be checked. The 5th Amendment doesn't guarantee an unlimited right to a fair trial. What kind of small-penis psycho doesn't support commonsense, reasonable regulations on the 5th Amendment? Only criminals use the 5th Amendment, there's no reason extreme groups like the ACLU should dictate our policy. Think of the children. All cops are heroes. Now it's the time to act, not think or ask questions. Remember 9/11.
 
2012-12-21 03:34:31 PM  

sammyk: Don't forget the 4th. It's pretty much meaningless these days too.


Wow. Came here to say exactly that, done in one has never been more appropriate.
 
2012-12-21 03:35:16 PM  

Mugato: For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


Why the defensiveness? Fact is, Obama has been awful on this front, and a lot of would-be liberals don't take kindly to criticism of him for it. You can still like other facets of his presidency and be critical of his stance on these issues. I like the alternatives about as much as you, but that doesn't give Obama a pass. If we can't fight for what we believe in when one of our own is in power, when the hell are we going to start?
 
2012-12-21 03:35:33 PM  
I think there is a growing consensus that we don't need 30-round magazines in our "for fun" guns.
 
2012-12-21 03:39:12 PM  

jimmythrust: willfullyobscure: "But it ensures that the next time a president tries to lock up an American citizen without trial-as President George W. Bush previously tried-it will be left up to the courts to decide whether or not it's legal."

Which is why Obama signed it in the first place, the man is not stupid; he knows only court precedent can put another nail in the coffin of indefinite detention and strengthen civil liberties. It doesn't take a roads scholar to figure that out you idiots.

I won my Roads scholarship due to my excellent paving and steamrolling skills.


I just played the "Road Building" card and get mine, now to trade for the sheep to build the settlement.
/got stone for trade
 
2012-12-21 03:44:11 PM  

Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.


So, it's okay for me to dislike both Bust and Obama?
 
2012-12-21 03:46:09 PM  

sugar_fetus: Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.

So, it's okay for me to dislike both Bust and Obama?


Only if you're one of them Log Cabin Republicans.
 
2012-12-21 03:47:41 PM  

BalugaJoe: What a dumb NRA statement. He should have been more sympathetic.


He should have had more imagination. "Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun"? I'm pretty sure two tons of Spam dropped on-target from a helicopter would stop a bad guy dead in his tracks. Or a school rhino that roams the halls between classes. Or a truck at high speed.

I can think of dozens of ways. Movies had a few too, although sometimes the bad man used these to stop a good guy.

Knife.

media.tumblr.com

Black dildo.

www.empireonline.com

And if your gun is empty, a bluff will stop a bad guy within reach of a shotgun.

4.bp.blogspot.com
I thought the NRA guy would at the very LEAST know about Dirty Harry.
 
2012-12-21 03:51:34 PM  

nmrsnr: The only reason this doesn't make me start writing representatives is because the Supreme Court has struck down these sort of rules every time, most notably and recently (in my knowledge) Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. So even if a President ever tried holding someone without trial, which I hope they wouldn't, the Supremem Court isn't going to let that fly.


There are quite a few folks being held on a base in Cuba who might respectively disagree.
 
2012-12-21 03:53:47 PM  
The Senate approved the ban, a bipartisan effort led by Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), as an amendment to the 2013 defense spending bill in a vote last month.

I support the ban, but what does it have to do with defense spending?
 
2012-12-21 03:54:03 PM  

buck1138: sugar_fetus: Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.

So, it's okay for me to dislike both Bust and Obama?

Only if you're one of them Log Cabin Republicans.


FABULOUS!
 
2012-12-21 03:55:39 PM  

Rwa2play: Mugato: Christ.

For the record, before all the douchebags come in with their "0bama" horseshiat, yes, we are disappointed that Obama hasn't un-farked everything Bush has tried so hard to fark. Except unlike your bullshiat "messiah" rhetoric, no one was all that optimistic. We just knew the alternative would be worse. So let me shut down your horseshiat talking points before the start festering up.

All of this and: Washington is a festering bag of people who want "stuff".


Yes, but citizens elected those teabaggers
 
2012-12-21 03:56:33 PM  

carpbrain: I think there is a growing consensus that we don't need 30-round magazines in our "for fun" guns.


But what about today's super-animals, like the flying squirrel, and the electric eel?
 
2012-12-21 03:59:31 PM  

ghare: carpbrain: I think there is a growing consensus that we don't need 30-round magazines in our "for fun" guns.

But what about today's super-animals, like the flying squirrel, and the electric eel?


Don't forget the lion fish, the horse fly, and the sopwith camel.
 
2012-12-21 04:02:22 PM  

cman: I am starting to think that the constitution is a hinderance on good governing. Why dont we just say fark it and throw it out the window?


I think its a living document, it should be changed from time to time, but to extend more protections, and more rights for people.

Things should almost never be removed from it. Ideas clarified, and new allowances made yes... for example things like personal papers including digital date mediums, and such.

The Right to bare arms, in a well regulated militia...want to own more then a hand gun, or simple hunting rifle? Join your State militia like and earn it.
 
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