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(WTOP)   Facebook: Okay, so we built this absurd mail system that often sends messages to an "other" folder that most people don't even know about. But no worries, we've got a new system where, for $1, users can make sure their mail goes to the right place   (wtop.com) divider line 26
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2012-12-21 10:06:37 AM
3 votes:
It also ignores the whole "block messages from people I'm not friends with" setting. You can only block people individually after they message you. So now that farked up stalker guy can just make a new profile every week for the missive he sends you. Go Facebook!
2012-12-21 11:40:12 AM
2 votes:

mesmer242: There aren't that many details on the changes. But now you can't tell your employer "Facebook? Oh, I don't have an account." in an effort to avoid friending your manager. Fun!


Sure I can say I don't have an account.

Use my real name on Facebook or anywhere else online? Are you kidding me? I'm a farking owl.

The people pushing the war on anonymity and pseudonymity need to be pushed off a cliff into the jaws of the Kraken.

You have the right to call yourself whatever you want in meatspace as long as you're not trying to defraud anyone. How this is somehow no longer valid in e-space boggles my mind.
2012-12-21 11:05:40 AM
2 votes:
I only discovered the "other" FB message folder a couple of weeks ago.

I sometimes comment on a few news websites other than Fark, on a couple I logged in with my FB login.

I got so much hate mail and bile directed at me in response to things I posted, all going into "Other". Of course, I only found these messages months later.

I wasn't trolling, but I was posting things that weren't exactly super-popular (or had lots of enthusiastic opposition). Saying things like I believed that Bradley Manning is traitorous scum who should face a firing squad or saying that Mitt Romney was a waffling sockpuppet of billionaire backers, you know, the sort of things that start/started routine flame wars on Fark, instead people were messaging me directly to tell me that I'm warmongering scum, a brainwashed libby lib, or just a brief little "fark you".

I decided at that point to stop using my FB login for news sites, the relative anonymity of Fark helps shield from the total morons who I am afraid might just get a little too personal.
2012-12-21 11:00:10 AM
2 votes:

Mr Guy: born_yesterday: myrrh: Gaboo: For $7, users can promote a post to their friends, just as advertisers do.

LOL, Seriously? People are that hung up on themselves?

No, but Zuck is in fact that hung up on money. And considering how badly the IPO went, I can't say I blame him.

He seems to have run out of innovations that benefit the average user, and has had nothing but a string of "features" that benefit advertisers and pay-as-you attention whores.

I'm expecting even the most basic functions to require payment to operate correctly.

Soon, for $5 you will be able to geo-register your location, and every 18 to 21 year old who posts pictures of her boobs in a ten mile radius automatically shows up on your wall, regardless of their privacy settings. It should be huge in the stalker/pedophile market, who spend a lot of money on the internet.


Can we call it TotalFacebook?
2012-12-21 10:26:15 AM
2 votes:
I've got this new system where, for no charge whatsoever, Facebook can go straight to Hell.
2012-12-21 10:02:17 AM
2 votes:
Spammer's delight. Prepare for non-stop spam on Facebook. Message popping up from "Vi@gra".

/pun unintended
2012-12-21 04:25:24 PM
1 votes:
computerguyUT: People actually still use facebook?

Wow.


Basement dwelling dorks still use the "people actually still use ___" line, wow.
2012-12-21 03:53:40 PM
1 votes:
I'm sorry folks but I find it absolutely awesome how much ire people seem to be able to generate over something that is free to use. It's like you borrow a car from your friend regularly, and he lets you use it for free but one time you went to borrow it and it was pink so now you call him an asshole but borrow the car anyhow.

If you don't like it, don't f*cking use it. Idiots. You have no investment here.

For the record, I genuinely do not care how Facebook operates and I have only ever given the slightest of pause to their privacy policy. If I don't want an advertising or "Facebook partner" to know something, I simply don't post it. If I do post it, I make sure it's something I wouldn't mind a total stranger knowing.
2012-12-21 03:50:20 PM
1 votes:
What strikes me as odd as if FB wants a business model, just get into online music sales. Make it so you don't need iTunes or some other software to download music. Let my great aunt just buy it in browser via the one website she knows how to use.
2012-12-21 03:12:58 PM
1 votes:

Cinletharwi: FB isn't worth this constant annoyance, anymore


It was worth it in the first place?

Cinletharwi: The thing Zuckerberg said he loathed most about business, is the thing that is happening to his 'baby' right before his very eyes.


By any accounts I've heard, Zuckerberg is quite complicit in what Facebook is, was, and is heading towards. This is his baby. I find the notion of him being some besieged Einstein mourning that his work was used to build something terrible to be pretty hilarious in it's naivete.

Cinletharwi: Social Networking as "a revolution in human connection" fails because the landscape is inevitably dominated by massive attention whoring/self-promotion (Twitter) and advertising-through-friends in their name (FB), which disrupts the sense of relationship as it exists online.


Facebook succeeded as it did precisely because it knew how to cater to people's egos- that a sense of importance (however imagined) is something people will gleefully do damn near anything to get. People want "massive attention whoring and self-promotion". After all, if you actually wanted social interaction, you could go out and socialize with friends.

"Social Networking" isn't a phenomenon- in human interaction or otherwise. It's a buzzword. Another advertising commodity. Nothing more. And Facebook works more or less exactly as intended.
2012-12-21 02:40:33 PM
1 votes:
The thing Zuckerberg said he loathed most about business, is the thing that is happening to his 'baby' right before his very eyes. He has fooled himself that Wall Street isn't running (and ruining) Facebook now. He really is a naive kid in over his head, but has either convinced himself or is fooled by his Yes Men (aka Money Men) that he's in control of FB. Either he's a fool or a liar because he has said before that FB is "not meant to be a business" but a revolution in connecting the world of people to each other.

Right, and interstitial ads spammed in our Friend's names and selling our relationships just screams interpersonal connection without the tarnishing of commercializing and monetizing our relationships. I now get 2 emails a day begging "you have more friends on FB than you know!" that I have to cancel. Basically begging me to make more connections so they can make more ad-value out of my "presence" there. If I had wanted to be "FB friends" with all of those hundreds of people I may or may not know, I'd have already added them. The problem is I have a low tolerance for instafoodgram-and-gawww-look-how-uniquely-perfect-my-baby-princess-is- she-will-cure-cancer pics.

I'm only still on there for a few science/nerd pages, and my gf begged me to stay on there, but the plan is to bail completely and delete my account once those video commercial pop-outs hit the News Feed and expand over the whole page "up to three times a day for up to 15 seconds." FB is already on thin ice after disrupting the delivery of Page postings to get them to pay to reach our news feed. Those posts seemed to be replaced by "[Friend] likes TARGET/WALMART/STARBUCKS/etc"

FB isn't worth this constant annoyance, anymore, and Google+ isn't all that compelling an alternative since nobody I know uses it. I'd move over there though if the FB science/nerd pages I like were to become active there too.

But the end of usefulness would likely follow to Google+ eventually too. Social Networking as "a revolution in human connection" fails because the landscape is inevitably dominated by massive attention whoring/self-promotion (Twitter) and advertising-through-friends in their name (FB), which disrupts the sense of relationship as it exists online.
2012-12-21 01:01:49 PM
1 votes:

Silverstaff: I only discovered the "other" FB message folder a couple of weeks ago.

I sometimes comment on a few news websites other than Fark, on a couple I logged in with my FB login.

I got so much hate mail and bile directed at me in response to things I posted, all going into "Other". Of course, I only found these messages months later.

I wasn't trolling, but I was posting things that weren't exactly super-popular (or had lots of enthusiastic opposition). Saying things like I believed that Bradley Manning is traitorous scum who should face a firing squad or saying that Mitt Romney was a waffling sockpuppet of billionaire backers, you know, the sort of things that start/started routine flame wars on Fark, instead people were messaging me directly to tell me that I'm warmongering scum, a brainwashed libby lib, or just a brief little "fark you".

I decided at that point to stop using my FB login for news sites, the relative anonymity of Fark helps shield from the total morons who I am afraid might just get a little too personal.

2012-12-21 12:29:59 PM
1 votes:

my alt's alt's alt: what ever happened to the moniker "don't give our your personal information including your full name on the internet"? it's what i grew up understanding and following. facebook made it safe and "OK" somehow?


It's Facebook's opinion that the internet would be easier to advertise to on the cheap safer if everyone gushed their personal information like a busted water main.

*shrug*
2012-12-21 12:26:32 PM
1 votes:
pssh i just use an alias on facebook and no one knows who i am unless i tell them.

what ever happened to the moniker "don't give our your personal information including your full name on the internet"? it's what i grew up understanding and following. facebook made it safe and "OK" somehow?
2012-12-21 11:59:17 AM
1 votes:

born_yesterday:
/If employers can check FB before hiring, I can't afford for a friend to "tag" me in a compromising photo.


If you're concerned about employers seeing you doing something they'd consider compromising, maybe don't do those things?
2012-12-21 11:26:51 AM
1 votes:

mesmer242: ha-ha-guy: It also ignores the whole "block messages from people I'm not friends with" setting. You can only block people individually after they message you. So now that farked up stalker guy can just make a new profile every week for the missive he sends you. Go Facebook!

Yes, and everyone is now visible via facebook search.

I deactivated my account today. I was one of the "single digit percentage" of users who was hidden from everybody but friends of friends and I'm too paranoid to be on there if that's not the case.


I did not know this. Now, I'm not laughing.

/If employers can check FB before hiring, I can't afford for a friend to "tag" me in a compromising photo.
2012-12-21 11:12:13 AM
1 votes:

Silverstaff: I only discovered the "other" FB message folder a couple of weeks ago.

I sometimes comment on a few news websites other than Fark, on a couple I logged in with my FB login.

I got so much hate mail and bile directed at me in response to things I posted, all going into "Other". Of course, I only found these messages months later.

I wasn't trolling, but I was posting things that weren't exactly super-popular (or had lots of enthusiastic opposition). Saying things like I believed that Bradley Manning is traitorous scum who should face a firing squad or saying that Mitt Romney was a waffling sockpuppet of billionaire backers, you know, the sort of things that start/started routine flame wars on Fark, instead people were messaging me directly to tell me that I'm warmongering scum, a brainwashed libby lib, or just a brief little "fark you".

I decided at that point to stop using my FB login for news sites, the relative anonymity of Fark helps shield from the total morons who I am afraid might just get a little too personal.


Fark you, you brainwashed, warmongering libby lib!!!

/Nowhere is safe!
//Sorry about the FB threats.
2012-12-21 10:57:52 AM
1 votes:
uh, guys, you're getting it wrong.

Right now people can send you unwanted messages without being your friends (provided you hadn't selected the "no messages from people i don't know" option in privacy settings).

As long as this doesn't make the message reception mandatory, it's just Facebook trying to rip-off the stalkers/spammers, not you.
2012-12-21 10:47:19 AM
1 votes:
The have to monetize directly Facebook somehow
2012-12-21 10:46:35 AM
1 votes:

computerguyUT: People actually still use facebook?

Wow.


How enviously nonconformist of you.
2012-12-21 10:43:33 AM
1 votes:
I know how to fix this problem. It's sooooo easy, I can't believe no one's thought of it before. You see, what you do is......

you ready......

well, you gotta.....

*whispering*

stop using Facebook.
2012-12-21 10:32:26 AM
1 votes:

myrrh: Gaboo: For $7, users can promote a post to their friends, just as advertisers do.

LOL, Seriously? People are that hung up on themselves?

No, but Zuck is in fact that hung up on money. And considering how badly the IPO went, I can't say I blame him.


He seems to have run out of innovations that benefit the average user, and has had nothing but a string of "features" that benefit advertisers and pay-as-you attention whores.

I'm expecting even the most basic functions to require payment to operate correctly.
2012-12-21 10:30:54 AM
1 votes:
Our policy is, if for any reason you're not satisfied with our service, I hate you.
2012-12-21 10:16:49 AM
1 votes:

Gaboo: For $7, users can promote a post to their friends, just as advertisers do.

LOL, Seriously? People are that hung up on themselves?


No, but Zuck is in fact that hung up on money. And considering how badly the IPO went, I can't say I blame him.
2012-12-21 10:15:01 AM
1 votes:
And there was me wondering why the preferences for the 'other' folder didn't provide the option to turn off the filtering.

Now I get it.

Will still ignore messages. I've got a cellphone for that, and everyone who knows me has my number. Text me.
2012-12-21 10:09:37 AM
1 votes:
In October, Facebook unveiled another feature that lets users pay if they want more people to read their updates. For $7, users can promote a post to their friends, just as advertisers do.

LOL, Seriously? People are that hung up on themselves?
 
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