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(Fox News)   Those dang kids who got themselves killed at Sandy Hook got Stephen Crowder's name pushed out of recent news cycles, so he'd like you to know that he's releasing NEW, UNEDITED clips of that vicious union attack. DIFFICULTY: they're still edited   (foxnews.com) divider line 72
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2012-12-21 10:05:16 AM
Conservative comedian

That's like having "Paid Asshole" on your business card.
 
Xai
2012-12-21 10:05:23 AM
honestly? who gives a shiat? It's like hitler turning up to a jewish rally and being all surprised when he gets beat down.

The kkk don't go to harlem.
 
2012-12-21 10:06:37 AM
To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.
 
2012-12-21 10:08:59 AM
What happened to that other link with the unedited video showing Crowder throwing the punch at 5:52?
 
2012-12-21 10:09:30 AM
Not this shiat again.
 
2012-12-21 10:09:47 AM

sprawl15: Conservative comedian

That's like having "Paid Asshole" on your business card.


24.media.tumblr.com
Oh, a bullshiat artist!
 
2012-12-21 10:11:43 AM
static1.firedoglake.com
 
2012-12-21 10:11:50 AM
This fucco is so desperate that he even started posting this shiat directly on Free Republic himself. In all caps. With improper grammar (must have been pandering to his audience). As in:

CROWDER RELEASE UNEDITED UNION ASSAULT FOOTAGE!
 
2012-12-21 10:12:59 AM

WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.


It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.
 
2012-12-21 10:13:15 AM
Opening card: "Raw violent footage begins at 8:52"
Only thing on the screen at that time: the words "Breitbart Lives"
 
2012-12-21 10:16:17 AM
That article is a lot more skeptical than I would have expected a Fox News article to be
 
2012-12-21 10:21:03 AM
Attention whore needs more attention.
 
2012-12-21 10:22:57 AM
Can we put together a White House petition for the euthanization of Stephen Crowder on the basis that he is a terrible human being and has nothing of worth to offer the world at large?
 
2012-12-21 10:24:29 AM

bulldg4life: That article is a lot more skeptical than I would have expected a Fox News article to be


When your derp is below FOX standards...it's time to let it go.
 
2012-12-21 10:24:59 AM
I've never used the term "douche canoe" before, but somehow it seems appropriate here.
 
2012-12-21 10:25:11 AM
He then got up and wailed on Crowder...

It's "whale", you dumbasses.

whale plural of whale
Noun
A very large marine mammal (order Cetacea) with a streamlined hairless body, a horizontal tail fin, and a blowhole on top of the head...
Verb
Beat; hit: "Dad came upstairs and whaled me".


As for the video, anyone notice that right as the guy goes down, Crowder turns, hunches over a little, and puts his hands up? I wanna know what the fark THAT was all about. That's the action in question.

I'm sure there is video from 4 or 500 different cameras though, because he tells us that right to work people are all about transparency and the union people don't carry cameras, so we would expect there to be far more cameras present.
 
2012-12-21 10:25:24 AM

bulldg4life: That article is a lot more skeptical than I would have expected a Fox News article to be


I'm guessing even Fox has realized they won't be able to hide the truth on this one, and are trying to salvage their credibility (ha!).
 
2012-12-21 10:25:30 AM
If you have to be dishonest to sway people to your side of an argument.....you are on the wrong side of the argument.
 
2012-12-21 10:25:51 AM
Who cares? A moron goes and taunts people then tries to act surprised when he gets biatch slapped. DIAF
 
2012-12-21 10:26:22 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.


Wow you're just a whole heaping bowl full of nice, aren't you?
 
2012-12-21 10:27:02 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.


They passed a gun control bill, but people found ways around it. They passed a national healthcare bill......so ya, I see your point that the democrats have been doing nothing about this.
 
2012-12-21 10:30:03 AM

bulldg4life: That article is a lot more skeptical than I would have expected a Fox News article to be


And yet they published the article.  "Look, we're not saying that gay marriage/mixed race marriage/universal suffrage/abolition of debtor prisons/lack of theocracy will destroy our society, but some people do.  We're just here to regurgitate the bigotry of the day so that you come to our site and we make money.  We advertise, you decide."
 
2012-12-21 10:32:01 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.


No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.
 
2012-12-21 10:33:54 AM

WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.


Some research has been done and found no correlation between mental illness and gun related deaths. (link goes to press release describing the findings of the research, written by one of the lead researchers)

So can we please put a stop to the notion that improving our mental health system will help reduce gun related violence? It likely won't. All saying that does is send a message to anyone with any mental instability that the country is going to look at them with fear, instead of with sympathy, and drive them deeper into hiding and less likely to get the help they need. Although, a bit of a digression, we do seriously need to improve mental healthcare in this country. But because it is the right thing to do, and not because we're afraid of people with schizophrenia or depression going on a shooting spree.

The problem isn't mental health, the problem is our overall culture that has such a lax attitude towards guns that it allows people such easy legal access to firearms that are used for massacre. And it's an attitude that will eventually likely erode our first amendment rights, which in my mind are infinitely more important than our second amendment rights.

We need to change our culture. It will be long and slow, and people will fight tooth and nail the whole time. But we must do it nonetheless. And as good a place as any to start would be to increase how difficult it is to legally acquire weapons.
 
2012-12-21 10:38:44 AM
Interesting, I just saw a Reddit post where someone thought the cameraman bumped into the guy and knocked him to the ground, but that doesn't work, either.

Here's what I see.

You have Crowder and someone else talking to two pro-union guys. The man who ends up on the ground is standing at a diagonal from Crowder, and easily 5 feet away from the cameraman. Suddenly the camera drops, and the dude who was standing over one guy to the left of Crowder, about 5 feet away from the camera is at Crowder's feet on the ground. This means that he got pushed or thrown 5-6 feet laterally, quite a push. Interestingly enough, this is the same time we see Crowder pivot and duck a little, moving left to right. Obviously thee is no shot of what exactly happened, but if I was going to take a big guy on my left and try to throw him to the ground, I'd use my body, and twist to my right, even ducking a little nit, exactly like Crowder does.

Even if it's coincidence that Crowder moved like that, and someone else pushed him, it's not like this guy walked up and punched him merely for being there. When someone sucker punches you, you get pissed and look for the most likely target. You're not always right, but it isn't some kind of "ambush". Someone pushed or threw that guy to the ground, and the most prominent agitator at the moment was Crowder, so that's who he took it out on, right or wrong.

I really am curious about why Crowder moved the way he did, though. He does say "You just assaulted me." before the guy is even up, so someone else could have pushed him, and in trying to keep his balance, he hit the crybaby...
 
2012-12-21 10:41:04 AM
He's nothing but a purulent, fetid asshole.
 
2012-12-21 10:42:46 AM

CygnusDarius: He's nothing but a purulent, fetid asshole.


I don't think anyone has ever disputed the fact that he is a conservative.
 
2012-12-21 10:42:56 AM

sprawl15: Conservative comedian

That's like having "Paid Asshole" on your business card.


ok, I lol'd
 
2012-12-21 10:46:06 AM

sprawl15: Conservative comedian

That's like having "Paid Asshole" on your business card.


lesombre.ca
 
2012-12-21 10:47:17 AM

spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.


After living in one, I can get on board with that. They suck.
 
2012-12-21 10:53:06 AM

Mikey1969: Interesting, I just saw a Reddit post where someone thought the cameraman bumped into the guy and knocked him to the ground, but that doesn't work, either.

Here's what I see.

You have Crowder and someone else talking to two pro-union guys. The man who ends up on the ground is standing at a diagonal from Crowder, and easily 5 feet away from the cameraman. Suddenly the camera drops, and the dude who was standing over one guy to the left of Crowder, about 5 feet away from the camera is at Crowder's feet on the ground. This means that he got pushed or thrown 5-6 feet laterally, quite a push. Interestingly enough, this is the same time we see Crowder pivot and duck a little, moving left to right. Obviously thee is no shot of what exactly happened, but if I was going to take a big guy on my left and try to throw him to the ground, I'd use my body, and twist to my right, even ducking a little nit, exactly like Crowder does.

Even if it's coincidence that Crowder moved like that, and someone else pushed him, it's not like this guy walked up and punched him merely for being there. When someone sucker punches you, you get pissed and look for the most likely target. You're not always right, but it isn't some kind of "ambush". Someone pushed or threw that guy to the ground, and the most prominent agitator at the moment was Crowder, so that's who he took it out on, right or wrong.

I really am curious about why Crowder moved the way he did, though. He does say "You just assaulted me." before the guy is even up, so someone else could have pushed him, and in trying to keep his balance, he hit the crybaby...


What your post made me think of:

lobshots.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-21 10:55:23 AM
Conservative comedian

ohh I like these... jumbo shrimp...essential luxury....literal interpretation!
 
2012-12-21 10:55:26 AM
If it was unedited, people would realize that this was complete bullshiat just like every other right-wing attack on organized labor. Farking right wing traitors hate freedom and America.
 
2012-12-21 10:56:04 AM

Skarekrough: Can we put together a White House petition for the euthanization of Stephen Crowder on the basis that he is a terrible human being and has nothing of worth to offer the world at large?


Hey now don't throw me in with that dick.
 
2012-12-21 11:01:38 AM

Mikey1969: He then got up and wailed on Crowder...

It's "whale", you dumbasses.


Crowder can be seen wailing to anyone that will notice.

That better?
 
2012-12-21 11:04:12 AM

Mikey1969: spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.

After living in one, I can get on board with that. They suck.


Yes they probably do but maybe it would be better to improve them than just shut them down, some people need 24 hour care.

/above statement is not directed at you.
//Glad you are no longer living in that situation
 
2012-12-21 11:04:37 AM

spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.


There has to be some room between hospital-prisons for the not guilty and letting people become prisoners inside their own heads(and blow away schools)
 
2012-12-21 11:06:24 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.

There has to be some room between hospital-prisons for the not guilty and letting people become prisoners inside their own heads(and blow away schools)


That "room" is an effective socialized health care system.
 
2012-12-21 11:06:34 AM
STEVEN CROWDER: DANGER SEEKER.

www.panelsonpages.com
 
2012-12-21 11:10:15 AM

enry: Mikey1969: He then got up and wailed on Crowder...

It's "whale", you dumbasses.

Crowder can be seen wailing to anyone that will notice.

That better?


That makes much more sense, yes... :-)
 
2012-12-21 11:11:42 AM

Kome: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

Some research has been done and found no correlation between mental illness and gun related deaths. (link goes to press release describing the findings of the research, written by one of the lead researchers)

So can we please put a stop to the notion that improving our mental health system will help reduce gun related violence? It likely won't. All saying that does is send a message to anyone with any mental instability that the country is going to look at them with fear, instead of with sympathy, and drive them deeper into hiding and less likely to get the help they need. Although, a bit of a digression, we do seriously need to improve mental healthcare in this country. But because it is the right thing to do, and not because we're afraid of people with schizophrenia or depression going on a shooting spree.

The problem isn't mental health, the problem is our overall culture that has such a lax attitude towards guns that it allows people such easy legal access to firearms that are used for massacre. And it's an attitude that will eventually likely erode our first amendment rights, which in my mind are infinitely more important than our second amendment rights.

We need to change our culture. It will be long and slow, and people will fight tooth and nail the whole time. But we must do it nonetheless. And as good a place as any to start would be to increase how difficult it is to legally acquire weapons.


Did that study account for suicide? I didn't see it, but may have missed it. According to the CDC numbers from 2009(Link), guns were used in nearly 19,000 suicides. That seems like a pretty good indication of mental illness. How many spree killers are suicidal but can't go through with it until they do something irrevocable and there's no turning back?
 
2012-12-21 11:11:49 AM

spongeboob: Mikey1969: spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.

After living in one, I can get on board with that. They suck.

Yes they probably do but maybe it would be better to improve them than just shut them down, some people need 24 hour care.

/above statement is not directed at you.
//Glad you are no longer living in that situation


The scam was to shut down the federal funding for state mental hospitals and say that in the future funding would be increased for the mentally ill on the local level which never happened.

I laugh every time I hear NPR or some other media source saying without a hint of irony that republicans want to look at mental health issues in favor of gun laws. They never call them out on the fact that they are always trying to cut funding for the most vulnerable Americans.
 
2012-12-21 11:15:47 AM
tenpoundsofcheese (farkied: It ain't cheese): WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.


"Please, Mr. Democrat, save us from the Republicans that we voted for!"
 
2012-12-21 11:17:23 AM

spongeboob: Mikey1969: spongeboob: tenpoundsofcheese: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

It is amazing the democrats have been totally helpless since the 1980's and were unable to do anything about this.

No the democrats are also responsible, the Democrats might be willing to pay for mental health care but they don't want to 'warehouse people' in state hospitals.

After living in one, I can get on board with that. They suck.

Yes they probably do but maybe it would be better to improve them than just shut them down, some people need 24 hour care.

/above statement is not directed at you.
//Glad you are no longer living in that situation


Improvement would definitely help, they are dark, depressing places.

I was only there for a month,and then they had my first "staffing", where they sit around and discuss your past month, your progress, areas that need work, incidents where you needed to be restrained(Yeah, they had a room with a bed they would tie you down to if you got out of hand, and sedate you, if necessary), all that fun stuff. Then they call you in and talk to yo about it . My staffing went like this:

I come in the room, they ask me to sit down, and ask if I know what the meeting is about. I tell them no. They explain what it is and the only other thing they say is 'We've discussed your case here, and somebody messed up, we are going to find someplace else for you immediately.'. They based everything on what my adoptive parents said, and the FIRT thing they had said is that I was a pathological liar and couldn't be trusted, so I quit trying to protest. Anyway, I ended up in a Group Home within about a week after the staffing, and my adoption was severed by the state about 2 years later after one of the houseparents at the Home interviewed me for a psychology paper for a class he was taken. He took the stuff I said to the State of Az, and they severed the adoption almost immediately..

/Fun times, but I can speak from experience about the hospitals, I spent a total of 2 months between 3 different ones. Even the new ones are depressing, they definitely need a new business model.
 
2012-12-21 11:17:46 AM
So no ones going to back off on how wrong they were about it being a setup or that AFP tore down their own tent?

Keep feeling about how its okay to assault people if they disagree with you even if you have to lie about it.
 
2012-12-21 11:18:05 AM

mrshowrules: Mikey1969: Interesting, I just saw a Reddit post where someone thought the cameraman bumped into the guy and knocked him to the ground, but that doesn't work, either.

Here's what I see.

You have Crowder and someone else talking to two pro-union guys. The man who ends up on the ground is standing at a diagonal from Crowder, and easily 5 feet away from the cameraman. Suddenly the camera drops, and the dude who was standing over one guy to the left of Crowder, about 5 feet away from the camera is at Crowder's feet on the ground. This means that he got pushed or thrown 5-6 feet laterally, quite a push. Interestingly enough, this is the same time we see Crowder pivot and duck a little, moving left to right. Obviously thee is no shot of what exactly happened, but if I was going to take a big guy on my left and try to throw him to the ground, I'd use my body, and twist to my right, even ducking a little nit, exactly like Crowder does.

Even if it's coincidence that Crowder moved like that, and someone else pushed him, it's not like this guy walked up and punched him merely for being there. When someone sucker punches you, you get pissed and look for the most likely target. You're not always right, but it isn't some kind of "ambush". Someone pushed or threw that guy to the ground, and the most prominent agitator at the moment was Crowder, so that's who he took it out on, right or wrong.

I really am curious about why Crowder moved the way he did, though. He does say "You just assaulted me." before the guy is even up, so someone else could have pushed him, and in trying to keep his balance, he hit the crybaby...

What your post made me think of:

[lobshots.files.wordpress.com image 440x232]


LOL, did I miss anything in the analysis? ;-)
 
2012-12-21 11:20:27 AM

Kome: WTF Indeed: To be fair, 20 dead kids caused by the systematic Republican cuts to the mental health system since the 1980's doesn't really move the rating dial in the right direction.

Some research has been done and found no correlation between mental illness and gun related deaths. (link goes to press release describing the findings of the research, written by one of the lead researchers)

So can we please put a stop to the notion that improving our mental health system will help reduce gun related violence? It likely won't. All saying that does is send a message to anyone with any mental instability that the country is going to look at them with fear, instead of with sympathy, and drive them deeper into hiding and less likely to get the help they need. Although, a bit of a digression, we do seriously need to improve mental healthcare in this country. But because it is the right thing to do, and not because we're afraid of people with schizophrenia or depression going on a shooting spree.

The problem isn't mental health, the problem is our overall culture that has such a lax attitude towards guns that it allows people such easy legal access to firearms that are used for massacre. And it's an attitude that will eventually likely erode our first amendment rights, which in my mind are infinitely more important than our second amendment rights.

We need to change our culture. It will be long and slow, and people will fight tooth and nail the whole time. But we must do it nonetheless. And as good a place as any to start would be to increase how difficult it is to legally acquire weapons.


You're right, of course. There is No WAY that someone who would just decide to shoot up a school full of kids without any kind of provocation by that school or those kids could be mentally unstable. It's all just a red herring, right? All killers are 100% sane, glad we know that now.
 
2012-12-21 11:23:24 AM

Mrbogey: So no ones going to back off on how wrong they were about it being a setup or that AFP tore down their own tent?

Keep feeling about how its okay to assault people if they disagree with you even if you have to lie about it.


Someone threw the union guy to the ground. Of course he came up swinging. If this Crowder douchebag didn't feel the need to stick his face in front of every confrontation, the union guy might have actually hit whoever pushed him to the ground.
 
2012-12-21 11:24:05 AM
You have to wonder why if Crowder was so badly assaulted as he claimed and feared for his life after as he claimed, why didn't he file a police report. After all he had the perpetrator on video.

I'll tell you why he didn't. If they would have arrested the man who punched him on the video, then he would have to also turn over the unedited video. It is obvious that Crowder doesn't want the unedited video to be seen.
 
2012-12-21 11:27:11 AM

ongbok: You have to wonder why if Crowder was so badly assaulted as he claimed and feared for his life after as he claimed, why didn't he file a police report. After all he had the perpetrator on video.

I'll tell you why he didn't. If they would have arrested the man who punched him on the video, then he would have to also turn over the unedited video. It is obvious that Crowder doesn't want the unedited video to be seen.


Crowder filed charges days ago. Your beliefs will not be altered.
 
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