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(Washington Post)   The Washington Post releases its "biggest Pinocchios of 2012" list. And yes, the list is split evenly between Democrats and Republicans so BOTH SIDES LIED THE SAME and BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY BAD   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 237
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2012-12-21 11:04:14 AM
Politicians lie? Stop the presses!
 
2012-12-21 11:08:21 AM
comparing democratic lies to republican lies is like comparing a grain of sand to the sahara desert.
 
2012-12-21 11:28:55 AM
Hey, look. Another subjective list designed to make the source look "balanced."

Which always makes them look "unbalanced" to me.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-21 11:32:24 AM
It's fun to compare the sorts of "lies".

Harry Reid sad something that may or may not be true, but it's a lie because he can't prove it and Romney's Mommy accountants wrote a note saying that he paid taxes.


The the Chrysler claim:
Even more remarkable, the Romney campaign fiercely defended the ad, even as it came under harsh criticism from, among others, Chrysler.

They can list the same number of "lies" from each side to look "balanced", but they can't make the magnitude anything close to comparable.
 
2012-12-21 11:43:55 AM
Fake balanced bullshiat.
 
2012-12-21 11:44:54 AM
I would be more impressed if they pointed out the truths that Romney said.
 
2012-12-21 11:44:57 AM
...so vote Republican.
 
2012-12-21 11:45:02 AM
Second Biggest Lie Ever: Trickle down economics

- rich people get richer by plugging the holes that money trickles out of


Biggest Lie Ever: Rich People are Job Creators

- rich people get richer by eliminating as many jobs as possible
 
2012-12-21 11:45:59 AM
That is the shiattiest list of lies I've ever seen.

1) where's the welfare lie about Obama cutting the work requirement
2) we don't know if Reid was lying or not. First, he is telling us what someone told him.  Second, we don't know have the tax records to prove otherwise.  The consensus was that this was a dickish thing to say but not necessarily a lie.
3) Calling Romney's 12 million new jobs promise a lie?  Bullshiat promises is not the same as a lie.
4) The biggest lies of 2012 were just about the election?
 
2012-12-21 11:46:17 AM
yes but one side lies more than the other
 
2012-12-21 11:46:34 AM

Farking Canuck: Second Biggest Lie Ever: Trickle down economics

- rich people get richer by plugging the holes that money trickles out of


Biggest Lie Ever: Rich People are Job Creators

- rich people get richer by eliminating as many jobs as possible


The GOP are fiscal Conservatives
"christian" Conservatives act like Christians
 
2012-12-21 11:48:40 AM
Hey Washington Post:

So Harry Reid is the senator from Nevada, not Utah. Kinda ruins the whole "Fact-checking" part when you can't get that right
 
2012-12-21 11:48:52 AM
Obama said your ass doesn't look too big in those pants.

Romney said he'd be able to create jobs because he is a job creator who created jobs like a job creator and he has experience, trust him.

So who should I vote for? Republican?
 
2012-12-21 11:49:40 AM
Whar Rice, whar?

"The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control."
 
2012-12-21 11:50:20 AM

vpb: They can list the same number of "lies" from each side to look "balanced", but they can't make the magnitude anything close to comparable.


Exactly. The magnitude of the lying, not the frequency, was what set the two parties apart this year.
 
2012-12-21 11:50:26 AM

Farking Canuck: Second Biggest Lie Ever: Trickle down economics

- rich people get richer by plugging the holes that money trickles out of


Biggest Lie Ever: Rich People are Job Creators

- rich people get richer by eliminating as many jobs as possible



Those lies are the heart of it.  Add, more guns keep people safer.
 
2012-12-21 11:51:53 AM
In case they change it:

s10.postimage.org
 
2012-12-21 11:52:43 AM

Farking Canuck: Biggest Lie Ever: Rich People are Job Creators

- rich people get richer by eliminating as many jobs as possible


And moving the remaining ones to places where labor is extremely cheap.
 
2012-12-21 11:53:00 AM
If news media really want to have lists like this and really want to be fair and balanced, release two lists: the five/ten worst Democratic lies of the year and the five/ten worst republican lies of the year. You still get to be balanced, but people can objectively see that one side really is worse than the other.
 
2012-12-21 11:53:07 AM
Both sides lie, and both sides have plenty to be ashamed of, but both side are not equally as bad. Dems mostly stick up for the little guys, while repubs mostly stick up for rich people (as if rich people actually need protection).
 
2012-12-21 11:53:09 AM
whoa! this could have serious implications for the election results!
 
2012-12-21 11:53:29 AM

halfof33: Libya


AND OFF WE GO AGAIN!

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE! AHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA!
 
2012-12-21 11:54:25 AM

FlashHarry: comparing democratic lies to republican lies is like comparing a grain of sand to the sahara desert.


The Sahara isn't all that sandy.
 
2012-12-21 11:54:38 AM

simplicimus: Politicians lie? Stop the presses!


Best of the Left basically called BS on this "SEE! WE'RE NOT IN THE TANK FOR THE RIGHT-WING!" crap anyway.
 
2012-12-21 11:55:10 AM
Both Hitler and Burt Reynolds have distinctive mustaches. Also, neither led a blameless life. Burt Reynolds = Hitler
 
2012-12-21 11:55:31 AM
Hurr, durr. The "other side" lies, so "our" lies are OK.

\you people sound like 6-year-olds.
\\wake me up when you find a politician that tells the truth
 
2012-12-21 11:56:17 AM
www.thepaepae.com
 
2012-12-21 11:56:23 AM

halfof33: Whar Rice, whar?

"The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control."


Oh for goodness sakes, give it a rest you nitwit.
 
2012-12-21 11:57:43 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: Burt Reynolds = Hitler


I farkin' KNEW it!!!
 
2012-12-21 11:58:09 AM
It's "its."
 
2012-12-21 11:58:29 AM

CheekyMonkey: Hurr, durr. The "other side" lies, so "our" lies are OK.

\you people sound like 6-year-olds.
\\wake me up when you find a politician that tells the truth


Look how superior you are. Everyone, BEHOLD THE UBERMENSCH!
 
2012-12-21 11:58:48 AM

halfof33: Whar Rice, whar?

"The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control."


The list obviously has a campaign focus.  You would have to balance that out with Romney's lie during the debate wouldn't you?

What incorrect details of these murders which the CIA provided an initial assessment of had vital importance to anything?  That there were protestors beforehand?  Or the specific motivation on the extremists/terrorists?   The former is irrelevant and the latter is still unknown.
 
2012-12-21 12:00:21 PM
Ambassador and other Americans assassinated and the democrats are still lying about it. You don't get much bigger than that.

Then again, everything out of a liberal's mouth is a lie. They have just brainwashed too many low intelligence sub-groups that it isn't.
 
2012-12-21 12:00:47 PM

theknuckler_33: Oh for goodness sakes, give it a rest you nitwit.


What, wait? Me? I have not mentioned it since the world did not end!!

In the spirit of the Holidays, I'll cut Fark a break from my awesome, hell, I'll buy you a bowl of soup to slurp down... hee hee! Merry Christmas!
 
2012-12-21 12:00:58 PM
I'm not so concerned about the typical political lying, as I am about lies such as:
"Evolution is just a theory"
"Global warming is a myth"
"Legitimate rape"
 
2012-12-21 12:02:54 PM
I've never understood the whole "lying in the name of my political party/Jesus/whatever" thing. It just makes the whole group look worse.

This was the first year my grandma got to vote since moving to the US, and she didn't understand a lot of the things on her ballot. I spent days (three? four?) trying to carefully explain everything, researching it on the internet if I needed to do so. I didn't want to sway her vote, cuz it's hers, not mine. However, when we were watching one of the  presidential debates, she yelled at me "You vote for that black man! That other man is a (insert several expletives in Norwegian here)".

I almost didn't even mail off her ballot. If you can't remember the name of the prez, should you even be voting? Was a bit scary to think about, truth be told.
 
2012-12-21 12:03:22 PM

MilesTeg: Ambassador and other Americans assassinated and the democrats are still lying about it. You don't get much bigger than that.

Then again, everything out of a liberal's mouth is a lie. They have just brainwashed too many low intelligence sub-groups that it isn't.


4/10 not very creative but I'm sure you will get bites.
 
2012-12-21 12:04:04 PM
Whenever anyone asserts that X group does Z as often as group Y does, I ask them to please name the mystical force which makes certain that this is so.

Egalitarian ideologies are good. Egalitarian social views are for fools. American blacks kill more people per capita than their white counterparts. Now, that's not good, but is it because they're blacker or because they're poorer? Is it because of what and who they are, or is it because of what and who the rest of us are? Is it a Black Problem or is it a Society Problem? Is the solution something to be done to black people or something that should be done FOR black people? Is this single violence statistic a mere symptom of a greater suffering that we ignore because it doesn' t happen in Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard?

To deny the fact is to deny the thought of WHY. Sometimes, the WHY is a very, very important thought that should be thought of by many people. Pretending that our two party system is either angels v demons OR demons v demons of completely equal malice is silly.
 
2012-12-21 12:05:04 PM

Farking Canuck: Second Biggest Lie Ever: Trickle down economics

Reality - Rich people get richer by plugging the holes that money trickles out of

Biggest Lie Ever: Rich People are Job Creators

Reality - Rich people get richer by eliminating as many jobs as possible
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ftfy
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CheekyMonkey:
\\wake me up when you find a politician that tells the truth


You know you'll need a full body shave when you wake up, right? You're going to look like Sasquatch.
 
2012-12-21 12:06:26 PM
While I don't think there was initial intentional deception on the Benghazi thing, the way the administration has handled the accusations has been pretty pathetic. Why they're bothering to cover up failures after a successful campaign is stupid unless the failures were made by those at the top of the chain. If that is the case, which is doubtful, then it really is an issue worth investigation. Hilary's calling out sick is ridiculously suspicious.
 
2012-12-21 12:06:29 PM

Begoggle: MilesTeg: Ambassador and other Americans assassinated and the democrats are still lying about it. You don't get much bigger than that.

Then again, everything out of a liberal's mouth is a lie. They have just brainwashed too many low intelligence sub-groups that it isn't.

4/10 not very creative but I'm sure you will get bites.


4/10? 2/10, at the most, and he didn't even say Obummer!!!!
 
2012-12-21 12:06:32 PM
Is this the thread where people actually try to say that their party is more ethical than the other? Because my weak sauce swimming pool needs a refill.
 
2012-12-21 12:06:40 PM
Today on "false equivalency theatre," a bunch of Republicans lied through their teeth with proof readily available of their heinous lies, one democrat said something that was mean and there's no proof of either way, and the president included the bush tax cuts as Bush's spending even though he wanted to continue them for middle class people to not crash the economy.

Stay tuned for the next episode of false equivalency theatre.
 
2012-12-21 12:09:26 PM
Republicans are, if anything, worse when they tell the truth. See events like Newt Gingrach claiming we should fire people with jobs so we can make poor children do the work for less money. Most conservatives and republicans are just awful people; that's all there is to it.
 
2012-12-21 12:09:42 PM
Humm, how many of you have gotten a job from a poor person?
 
2012-12-21 12:10:56 PM

kombat_unit: Humm, how many of you have gotten a job from a poor person?


Define "job".
 
2012-12-21 12:11:12 PM

kombat_unit: Humm, how many of you have gotten a job from a poor person?


Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
2012-12-21 12:11:35 PM
Is this the thread everybody flings poop at each other while claiming their own poop tastes like snozzberries?
 
2012-12-21 12:11:51 PM

DubtodaIll: While I don't think there was initial intentional deception on the Benghazi thing, the way the administration has handled the accusations has been pretty pathetic. Why they're bothering to cover up failures after a successful campaign is stupid unless the failures were made by those at the top of the chain. If that is the case, which is doubtful, then it really is an issue worth investigation. Hilary's calling out sick is ridiculously suspicious.


Hillary is afraid this is finally going to blow the lid off her murder of Vince Foster.
 
2012-12-21 12:13:02 PM

kombat_unit: Humm, how many of you have gotten a job from a poor person?


I have.
 
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