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(Talking Points Memo)   The history of the AR-15, the gun used at Sandy Hook. Since the media doing this, I'm impressed we're not looking at a picture of the AK-47. I mean, they're both assault rifles and both have "A" in their name   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 644
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2012-12-21 04:27:00 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.


While no one wants to see any more massacres (except for maybe you and Chuckufarlie), if that was the case, then the NRA's power must've been godlike at one point because there've been lots and lots of massacres and they're still so incredibly powerful that they make you wet your pants.

/not a member
 
2012-12-21 04:27:39 PM  

dittybopper: ronaprhys: Yes you did. You said slavery and prohibition were settled and how you're saying they're not, but that nothing is settled. It's one or the other. Pick a single story and stick to it.

That's what I'm asking you to do: You said slavery was settled law, but abortion wasn't, and you didn't give a good legal reason for the difference.


Wait - I don't think you wanted to reply to me on that, did you?
 
2012-12-21 04:28:07 PM  

dittybopper: chuckufarlie: Oh, I have better than a clue. I have something that you will never have, a functioning brain. Of course people could walk around with lots of muzzle loaders or pistols. Using that type of a weapon to shoot down a lot of people would slow the shooter down. It would take just a little bit of time to drop one gun and grab another or to replace the cylinder. In that amount of time, people could get away or somebody could rush the shooter. The shooter might kill five or six people, but not twenty-six.

Really? Four revolvers, two in each hand, two in holsters. Shoot six shots with right hand, while dropping that one shoots with left hand, rinse and repeat. Took me all of 30 seconds to think up the mechanics of it.

And if the revolvers are double action like a Starr, it's as fast as any semi-automatic. If they are similar to a LeMat, that's 40 rounds without having to pause.


LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?
 
2012-12-21 04:28:32 PM  

way south: Outlander Engine: I just think it will fail. Like the dug war. Like prohibition.

I think the problem is that, when it comes to gun control, no one has a definition for failure.
Every law is followed by new incidents and the renewed argument that another feature ban is needed.

More violence should be proof that the previous approach failed.
We've got a people problem and arguing about the appearances of things won't fix that.

/Its as if they'd tackle a drunk driving problem by arguing over the size of a cars tires.
/Or maybe its the number of tires, or the fuel mileage, or the loudness of the stereo...


I was specifically talking about a total ban plus confiscation. The black market for guns would explode overnight and you would have accomplished nothing meaningful. There's even good evidence that the total number of murders would go up.


At the moment, however, we aren't even using common sense gun control.
Link Virginia Tech Shooter
Link Mental Illness and state laws
That guy should never have been able to buy a gun. Closing that loophole would be easy.

Hopefully a meaningful solution will come about. Something political will be done, it's just a question of how effective will it be.
 
2012-12-21 04:30:17 PM  
It's been fun, but I have to go because the distaffbopper, littlebopper, and I have people coming over in a little while for a Christmas shindig, and I have to go do some things like dishes and general cleaning up, since the distaffbopper is still recovering from hip replacement surgery.

Have a wonderful holiday season. Maybe Santa will slip a gun under the tree just for you.
 
2012-12-21 04:30:32 PM  

ronaprhys: chuckufarlie: There are all sorts of laws in place across the country to provide safety with swimming pools. Any public pool or beach has life guards on duty to help protect the children and the adults.

Your stupid arguments about me hating children because if kids dying in swimming pools is just an attempt to deflect the argument. The one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I am against rifles that serve no purpose other than to kill a lot of people in a short period of time. They serve no useful purpose. Swimming pools do serve a useful purpose. For one thing, they are used to train children how to swim so that they will not drown. There is no good use for rifles that do nothing be kill lots of people in a short period of time.

So you do hate children. I'm glad we could clear that up. It's obvious that the laws aren't working because more children are dying via drowning that via firearms. Yet you continue to ignore that problem and focus on the lesser.

You are incredibly callous. It's actually a shame to see someone as cynical as you.

chuckufarlie: I never said that prohibition is gone for good. What I said was that it is gone. I never said that it cannot come back.

Slavery is settled because owning other people is wrong on many levels. It should never have been in the Constitution and it had no business being in it.


Try to understand - nothing in the Constitution or in the Amendments is eternal, nothing is chiseled in stone. Changes have been made in the past and they can be made again. None of your stupidity is going to change that.

Yes you did. You said slavery and prohibition were settled and how you're saying they're not, but that nothing is settled. It's one or the other. Pick a single story and stick to it.


you are worse than a idiot. You are a semi-literate idiot. I said that prohibition was gone. I never said that it could not become the law of the land once again. You do realize that previous posts are available for review, right?

Slavery is gone forever because that is what the majority of the people want. That majority opinion is not going to change. Owning other people is wrong and just because it was in the Constitution did not make it right. It was only in the Constitution to keep a bunch of ignorant southerners in the country. We'd be better off without them.
 
2012-12-21 04:31:50 PM  

Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?


Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.
 
2012-12-21 04:32:17 PM  

Outlander Engine: At the moment, however, we aren't even using common sense gun control.Link Virginia Tech ShooterLink Mental Illness and state lawsThat guy should never have been able to buy a gun. Closing that loophole would be easy.



I can see why the NRA fights when it comes to tying mental health to gun possession: just look at their membership.
 
2012-12-21 04:34:10 PM  

Southern100: chuckufarlie: ronaprhys: chuckufarlie: Something that is CONSIDERED Constitutional one day is often not CONSIDERED to be Constitutional a week later. The make up of the SCOTUS changes over time. That means that what is or is not Constitutional also changes.

You really have no idea how this country functions, do you??

Well, that's demonstrably false (the constant changing of what is and isn't Constitutional). Did you fail history class, too? I mean, along with failing Civics and American Government? Please, by all means keep this up. It's an amusing trail of discovery here. Who would've thought that someone who could actually get onto the internets could be so uneducated.

Ever hear of prohibition? What about the people fighting against abortion? Prohibition was considered Constitutional and then it wasn't. Abortion is Constitutional and yet people are still fighting against it.

Ever hear of the 18th and 21st amendments? Prohibition was never "considered" Constitutional - they had to pass an amendment to MAKE it constitutional. Obviously you must've skipped school that day.

You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.


make up you mind, dumbass, it was either never considered Constitutional or it was, You say that an amendment made it Constitutional. How could the never be considered Constitutional if the made an Amendment to make it Constitutional. Pick one, idiot.

I may have missed a day or two of school but all that time you spent in that special class makes you are complete idiot when it comes to the Constitution.
 
2012-12-21 04:36:04 PM  

dittybopper: Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?

Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.


and that is why you said that it had 40 shots? You just keep proving yourself to be more and more stupid than what I thought is impossible.
 
2012-12-21 04:36:51 PM  

dittybopper: It's been fun, but I have to go because the distaffbopper, littlebopper, and I have people coming over in a little while for a Christmas shindig, and I have to go do some things like dishes and general cleaning up, since the distaffbopper is still recovering from hip replacement surgery.

Have a wonderful holiday season. Maybe Santa will slip a gun under the tree just for you.


and a liar on top of it all. You are a pretty poor sample of humanity.
 
2012-12-21 04:39:32 PM  

dittybopper: chuckufarlie: A 40 round Lemat revolver?? You really are an idiot.

I see math is not your strong point, so I will spell it out for you:

Each LeMat holds 10 rounds, 9 in the cylinder, 1 in the central barrel. If you have four of them, the equation is

4 revolvers * 10 rounds per revolver = 40 total rounds.

I mean, even my third-grader son knows how to do math that simple.


you never said anything about four LeMats.

I would imagine that your third grader knows a lot of things that you don't know. But then, he is your son so he might be an idiot as well.
 
2012-12-21 04:41:50 PM  

chuckufarlie: you are worse than a idiot. You are a semi-literate idiot. I said that prohibition was gone. I never said that it could not become the law of the land once again. You do realize that previous posts are available for review, right?

Slavery is gone forever because that is what the majority of the people want. That majority opinion is not going to change. Owning other people is wrong and just because it was in the Constitution did not make it right. It was only in the Constitution to keep a bunch of ignorant southerners in the country. We'd be better off without them.


Oh my. Aren't you a cheeky one? Thanks for clearing up that you're being willfully dishonest, though. You've clearly proven, throughout this thread, that you aren't educated on the subject, that you don't have a workable solution that's Constitutional, that you don't even understand the Constitution or how our legal system works, much less our actual government.

Now hopefully everyone reviews this thread and realizes that you have nothing of value to offer to the world.
 
2012-12-21 04:42:00 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.


Then perhaps we ought to go the other direction, and make it compulsory for everyone to own a firearm.

Kennesaw Georgia did - 30 years ago. By law, if you live in the city you must own a gun.

And they have the lowest crime rates in the entire state (and less than half the crime rate of the entire country) - and not a single murder for 30 years.
 
2012-12-21 04:46:19 PM  

chuckufarlie: dittybopper: Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?

Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.

and that is why you said that it had 40 shots? You just keep proving yourself to be more and more stupid than what I thought is impossible.


He said the shooter would carry 4 guns.

I gotta give you credit though - you're a pretty good troll.
 
2012-12-21 04:48:27 PM  

ronaprhys: chuckufarlie: you are worse than a idiot. You are a semi-literate idiot. I said that prohibition was gone. I never said that it could not become the law of the land once again. You do realize that previous posts are available for review, right?

Slavery is gone forever because that is what the majority of the people want. That majority opinion is not going to change. Owning other people is wrong and just because it was in the Constitution did not make it right. It was only in the Constitution to keep a bunch of ignorant southerners in the country. We'd be better off without them.

Oh my. Aren't you a cheeky one? Thanks for clearing up that you're being willfully dishonest, though. You've clearly proven, throughout this thread, that you aren't educated on the subject, that you don't have a workable solution that's Constitutional, that you don't even understand the Constitution or how our legal system works, much less our actual government.

Now hopefully everyone reviews this thread and realizes that you have nothing of value to offer to the world.


The only thing that I was wrong about was attempting to explain something to an idiot like you.

You also have no idea what "willfully dishonest" means. I was no such thing. It is your inability to understand what I said that gives you that impression. You obviously were confused and you still are.

You have no idea what the Constitution is.
 
2012-12-21 04:49:56 PM  

Southern100: chuckufarlie: dittybopper: Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?

Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.

and that is why you said that it had 40 shots? You just keep proving yourself to be more and more stupid than what I thought is impossible.

He said the shooter would carry 4 guns.

I gotta give you credit though - you're a pretty good troll.


And I give you credit for being an asshole and an idiot. It is not my fault that he can not communicate intelligently.
 
2012-12-21 04:56:20 PM  

Southern100: Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.

Then perhaps we ought to go the other direction, and make it compulsory for everyone to own a firearm.

Kennesaw Georgia did - 30 years ago. By law, if you live in the city you must own a gun.

And they have the lowest crime rates in the entire state (and less than half the crime rate of the entire country) - and not a single murder for 30 years.


What was the murder rate in Kennesaw in the thirty years before the new law? Without that information, you have only half the story.

There are lots of little towns all over the country with low crime rates. Tell the rest of the story.
 
2012-12-21 04:58:16 PM  

Southern100: Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.

Then perhaps we ought to go the other direction, and make it compulsory for everyone to own a firearm.

Kennesaw Georgia did - 30 years ago. By law, if you live in the city you must own a gun.

And they have the lowest crime rates in the entire state (and less than half the crime rate of the entire country) - and not a single murder for 30 years.


I lived in Kennesaw. The supposed lack of crime is not worth living in that racist shiathole. Not an infamously racist town? Dent Myer's store is front and center on their town square - selling his bowls of Niglet Stew (pieces from black playskool figures in a fishbowl). It was a racist little backwater that even the other locals around here didn't care for, until they got lucky enough to have a mall plopped down next door and can therefore afford 2.3 police officers per citizen. And I would seriously doubt any published statistics about crime there, considering how much of their marketing activity goes into fostering that image.

And that "law" is complete horseshiat. They don't enforce it, how in the world could they?

The Kennesaw Gun Law: Invented by known racists, propagated by probably racists.
 
2012-12-21 05:01:24 PM  

chuckufarlie: Southern100: chuckufarlie: dittybopper: Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?

Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.

and that is why you said that it had 40 shots? You just keep proving yourself to be more and more stupid than what I thought is impossible.

He said the shooter would carry 4 guns.

I gotta give you credit though - you're a pretty good troll.

And I give you credit for being an asshole and an idiot. It is not my fault that he can not communicate intelligently.


I do love how, when it's clear that you've proven wrong, you resort to insults, appeals to emotion, and other fallacies.

You are just cute as buttons on a rag doll.
 
2012-12-21 05:03:14 PM  

ronaprhys: chuckufarlie: Southern100: chuckufarlie: dittybopper: Southern100: LeMat was a 9-shot wasn't it?

Nine shots in the cylinder, one in the central barrel.

and that is why you said that it had 40 shots? You just keep proving yourself to be more and more stupid than what I thought is impossible.

He said the shooter would carry 4 guns.

I gotta give you credit though - you're a pretty good troll.

And I give you credit for being an asshole and an idiot. It is not my fault that he can not communicate intelligently.

I do love how, when it's clear that you've proven wrong, you resort to insults, appeals to emotion, and other fallacies.

You are just cute as buttons on a rag doll.


And yet I have not been proven wrong. Your buddy just cannot compose an intelligent post. And for that matter, neither can you.
 
2012-12-21 05:04:30 PM  

Southern100: Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.

Then perhaps we ought to go the other direction, and make it compulsory for everyone to own a firearm.

Kennesaw Georgia did - 30 years ago. By law, if you live in the city you must own a gun.

And they have the lowest crime rates in the entire state (and less than half the crime rate of the entire country) - and not a single murder for 30 years.


Oh, and BTW, here you go. This is just one, Kennesaw is not the mythical fairytale utopia of heavily armed white Southerners, as the internet would have you believe. Stop trusting those FW FW FW emails.

Cobb County police are investigating the death of a man who was found shot in the driveway of his Kennesaw home Saturday night.

At 10:45 p.m., Cobb police and fire personnel were dispatched to 4026 Leicester Dr. in Kennesaw and found the man's body lying in the driveway of the house, police said.

The man has been identified as 53-year-old Milton Carl Kelley of Kennesaw.

The Cobb County Assessor's Office lists Kelley as one of the owners of 4026 Leicester Dr., along with Deborah McGlaughlin.

According to police, Kelley apparently died from a gunshot wound. Police said foul play is suspected, and the investigation is ongoing.

Anyone with information about this case is asked to call 770-499-3945."


You should call that number and point out the law and demand the deceased be charged for allowing his unarmed self to be shot by negroes.
 
2012-12-21 05:12:25 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: Insatiable Jesus: Southern100: You're not going to pass a constitutional amendment for the prohibition of firearms. Not in 38 states.

Not yet. Let's talk a few massacres from now.

And that's the 800lb gorilla in the room, that the NRA and the gunfappers won't look at. That it WILL happen again. Each time it happens, their political power diminishes exponentially. Enjoy.

Then perhaps we ought to go the other direction, and make it compulsory for everyone to own a firearm.

Kennesaw Georgia did - 30 years ago. By law, if you live in the city you must own a gun.

And they have the lowest crime rates in the entire state (and less than half the crime rate of the entire country) - and not a single murder for 30 years.

Oh, and BTW, here you go. This is just one, Kennesaw is not the mythical fairytale utopia of heavily armed white Southerners, as the internet would have you believe. Stop trusting those FW FW FW emails.

Cobb County police are investigating the death of a man who was found shot in the driveway of his Kennesaw home Saturday night.

At 10:45 p.m., Cobb police and fire personnel were dispatched to 4026 Leicester Dr. in Kennesaw and found the man's body lying in the driveway of the house, police said.

The man has been identified as 53-year-old Milton Carl Kelley of Kennesaw.

The Cobb County Assessor's Office lists Kelley as one of the owners of 4026 Leicester Dr., along with Deborah McGlaughlin.

According to police, Kelley apparently died from a gunshot wound. Police said foul play is suspected, and the investigation is ongoing.

Anyone with information about this case is asked to call 770-499-3945."


You should call that number and point out the law and demand the deceased be charged for allowing his unarmed self to be shot by negroes.


what he should have said was that they have had at least one murder per year.
 
2012-12-21 05:13:16 PM  
chuckufarlie:
Instead of addressing the mechanism that sends the bullets down the barrel, we should address the rate of fire possible with those guns. About two a minute should be enough for anybody.

Clearly you have never hunted ducks, geese, pheasant, or grouse.  As birds, they fly and while I would like to kill the bird on the first shot, more often then not I am adjusting my lead on the second or third shot.
 
2012-12-21 05:30:23 PM  

parkthebus: chuckufarlie:
Instead of addressing the mechanism that sends the bullets down the barrel, we should address the rate of fire possible with those guns. About two a minute should be enough for anybody.

Clearly you have never hunted ducks, geese, pheasant, or grouse.  As birds, they fly and while I would like to kill the bird on the first shot, more often then not I am adjusting my lead on the second or third shot.


I have hunted fowl. Seeing as how I would like to actually hit the occasional bird, I use a shotgun. You might not miss on the first two or three shots if you stopped using an assault rifle.
 
2012-12-21 06:39:09 PM  

parkthebus: chuckufarlie:
Instead of addressing the mechanism that sends the bullets down the barrel, we should address the rate of fire possible with those guns. About two a minute should be enough for anybody.

Clearly you have never hunted ducks, geese, pheasant, or grouse.  As birds, they fly and while I would like to kill the bird on the first shot, more often then not I am adjusting my lead on the second or third shot.


As a hunter, the only rub for me always seems to be bird hunting. I have shot many creatures with one shot. Never a bird, it seems.
 
2012-12-21 07:38:08 PM  
I am just amused that a "stoner" managed to make something like this.
 
2012-12-21 07:41:00 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: [img72.imageshack.us image 478x359]
I AM THE NRA!


www.trademarkia.com
 
2012-12-21 07:53:53 PM  

LasersHurt: the.swartz: Too bad we are not putting nearly as much energy in taking care of what is very likely a mental health situation. I'd rather cure/control crazy than harp on anything else right now.

Are you just ignoring the calls for mental health access? The president himself calling for increased access to care?


I am not ignoring anything about these two issues. Just indicating my thoughts on the disparate energy being spent.

Too much weight on gun control and not nearly enough on mental health. Far too much.
 
2012-12-21 08:06:04 PM  

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: If you have a child with a mental illness, put your guns in one of these, and keep the combination to yourself.
[padens.com image 612x600]


Put your chid in one of those, and keep the combination to yourself.
 
2012-12-21 08:09:02 PM  

chuckufarlie: Instead of arguing about what is or is not an assault thingee, just ban all guns that have a magazine or a clip. Then confiscate the ones already out there.

And the pissing contest would be over.


It's a shame you have the right to vote....Maybe we should just remove your right to voice you opinion. You evidently wouldn't have an issue with that since you don't understand the basics of the bill of rights.
 
2012-12-21 08:20:45 PM  

LasersHurt: Eponymous: Absolutely it is an assault rifle....it is scary looking. Just one glance at something so dangerous would cause Barney Frank to break out in menstrual cramps.

Why are people pretending that this is the issue? So they can just ignore it rather than address it on a mature level?


Pretending...more like mocking? The lefties have no understanding of the topic they are trying to legislate (sound anything like healthcare?)....so they are talking about dusting off Feinstein's previous AWB bill. It figured out which guns to ban based on asthetic features such as: adjustable stock, a foregrip, a barrel shroud, a flash suppressor/muzzle brake, a pistol grip, or a magazine outside of the pistol grip. These items in now way make a gun more useful or more deadly as an "assault weapon". These "features" are mostly aesthetics that can easly apply to other semi-auto rifles like the Ruger 10/22 (the most popular .22 rimfire rifle).
 
2012-12-21 08:44:19 PM  

LasersHurt: You and I all know that there is no term which would be found generally acceptable for semi-auto civilian versions of military weapons.


The M16 is a military version of the AR-15, a civilian weapon.
 
2012-12-21 08:47:00 PM  

dittybopper: chuckufarlie: dittybopper: chuckufarlie: jigger: chuckufarlie: [bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com image 400x205]

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

the 2nd Amendment is totally out of date. It can and should be repealed. Don't act like it cannot be repealed.

OK. Go ahead. Get it repealed. I'll wait.

Until such time as you can manage that, though, it's still US law, and it must be obeyed.

I never said that it should not be, moron.

First, this is Fark. It is spelled "moran" here. Get with the program.

Secondly, you are under the mistaken impression that the prefatory clause of the Second Amendment modifies the operative clause:

chuckufarlie 2012-12-21 02:39:09 PM
...
Are you under the impression that all of you gun nutz are somehow a well regulated militia?

As a matter of settled US law, we don't have to be in an organized militia. And in fact, that's been settled law since at *LEAST* 1939.


So the Bill of Rights is a farce? If being part of a well-regulated miltia is not a pre-requisite for owning guns - as the Bill clearly states - and that's settled, what worth has the rest of the document? Parts of it can be ignored if lobbyists pile enough money behind their own cause?
 
2012-12-21 09:12:59 PM  

iron de havilland: dittybopper: chuckufarlie: dittybopper: chuckufarlie: jigger: chuckufarlie: [bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com image 400x205]

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

the 2nd Amendment is totally out of date. It can and should be repealed. Don't act like it cannot be repealed.

OK. Go ahead. Get it repealed. I'll wait.

Until such time as you can manage that, though, it's still US law, and it must be obeyed.

I never said that it should not be, moron.

First, this is Fark. It is spelled "moran" here. Get with the program.

Secondly, you are under the mistaken impression that the prefatory clause of the Second Amendment modifies the operative clause:

chuckufarlie 2012-12-21 02:39:09 PM
...
Are you under the impression that all of you gun nutz are somehow a well regulated militia?

As a matter of settled US law, we don't have to be in an organized militia. And in fact, that's been settled law since at *LEAST* 1939.

So the Bill of Rights is a farce? If being part of a well-regulated miltia is not a pre-requisite for owning guns - as the Bill clearly states - and that's settled, what worth has the rest of the document? Parts of it can be ignored if lobbyists pile enough money behind their own cause?


Being part of a militia is not a pre-requisite to being armed. An armed populace is a pre-requisite for having a well regulated militia. Put another way, the  right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed because a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state.
 
2012-12-21 09:53:22 PM  

badhatharry: An armed populace is a pre-requisite for having a well regulated militia.


We have an armed populace, apparently. WHERE is the Militia that springs forth from this?
 
2012-12-21 09:57:04 PM  

Eponymous: chuckufarlie: Instead of arguing about what is or is not an assault thingee, just ban all guns that have a magazine or a clip. Then confiscate the ones already out there.

And the pissing contest would be over.

It's a shame you have the right to vote....Maybe we should just remove your right to voice you opinion. You evidently wouldn't have an issue with that since you don't understand the basics of the bill of rights.


In order to protect your 2nd Amendment rights, you want to take away my 1st Amendment rights and take away my right to vote.

You are a pathetic little worm.

There is nothing in the Bill of RIghts that states what type of gun you can own. That was an interpretation made by the Courts and those can be changed easily.
 
2012-12-21 10:03:03 PM  

parkthebus: chuckufarlie:
Instead of addressing the mechanism that sends the bullets down the barrel, we should address the rate of fire possible with those guns. About two a minute should be enough for anybody.

Clearly you have never hunted ducks, geese, pheasant, or grouse.  As birds, they fly and while I would like to kill the bird on the first shot, more often then not I am adjusting my lead on the second or third shot.


Yes, but get caught by the game warden with shotgun that has a magazine capacity greater than three and enjoy your world of hurt.
 
2012-12-21 10:08:52 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: badhatharry: An armed populace is a pre-requisite for having a well regulated militia.

We have an armed populace, apparently. WHERE is the Militia that springs forth from this?


I guess it could possibly get back together. A well regulated militia is only necessary for the security of a free state. As a balance to the standing army. We gave up on that years ago.
 
2012-12-21 11:12:46 PM  

chuckufarlie: Eponymous: chuckufarlie: Instead of arguing about what is or is not an assault thingee, just ban all guns that have a magazine or a clip. Then confiscate the ones already out there.

And the pissing contest would be over.

It's a shame you have the right to vote....Maybe we should just remove your right to voice you opinion. You evidently wouldn't have an issue with that since you don't understand the basics of the bill of rights.

In order to protect your 2nd Amendment rights, you want to take away my 1st Amendment rights and take away my right to vote.

You are a pathetic little worm.

There is nothing in the Bill of RIghts that states what type of gun you can own. That was an interpretation made by the Courts and those can be changed easily.


Typical leftist sheep you are....quick to remove someone else's right....but you cry like a butthurt preschooler when some recommends a similar course of action for you. I suggest you look up the word infringe sometime.... maybe you can look it up on your obamaphone. That is if you can get a signal in your mom's basement.
 
2012-12-21 11:42:45 PM  

clane: Do all you cowards realize that an assault rifle will kill you just as fast as a hunting rifle? Just because a gun looks scary doesn't make it more deadly.

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I'm a little late to the party on this one, but actually, you're a little bit wrong. An assault rifle fires and intermediate round which, in the case of 5.56mm, is designed not to instantly kill. The object of warfare in the real world isn't like the say in the movies. It's not to kill the other guy, but to kill or put them out of commission. If you kill them, good, another baddie down. If you incapacitate them, then it takes two men out of combat as their buddy is likely to stop shooting in an attempt to help them, get them a medic, whatever.

A hunting round is designed to knock down and kill a much larger target than a human being very, very fast. In fact, some of our favorite and most used hunting rounds were actually military rounds that proved to be overkill. .30-06, .308 (7.62NATO), .303, 8mm Mauser, etc. Now, if you've ever seen what 5.56/.223 or 7.62x39 do in ballistics gel compared to say, .308 or 7.62x54R, you know that the latter leave much, much bigger holes, cause much greater damage to internal organs and tissue from the shock wave, and splinter bone really nicely, meaning it's tougher to abrade the wound and keep it from turning septic. What's more, those more powerful "hunting" rounds will punch through a lot more cover. Be it a car door, or a classroom door, someone with a fast bolt-action (straight pull) or a self-loading non-assault rifle is going to be able to do far more damage than someone with an AR or AK platform weapon. I'd hate to see what would happen if someone went apeshiat with a SVT-40. Of course, if you really, really, really want to kill someone though, and leave no doubt about it. Segmented foster slugs in 3" 12ga shells are going to do the job every time. Even if you're wearing a vest, they're going to break ribs and puncture lungs. There's a reason I keep those and wax-slugs in the saddle on the Maverick-88 in the biometric safe at the house....
 
2012-12-22 09:48:04 AM  

tallen702: clane: Do all you cowards realize that an assault rifle will kill you just as fast as a hunting rifle? Just because a gun looks scary doesn't make it more deadly.

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 500x326][www.badstockart.com image 337x508]

I'm a little late to the party on this one, but actually, you're a little bit wrong. An assault rifle fires and intermediate round which, in the case of 5.56mm, is designed not to instantly kill. The object of warfare in the real world isn't like the say in the movies. It's not to kill the other guy, but to kill or put them out of commission. If you kill them, good, another baddie down. If you incapacitate them, then it takes two men out of combat as their buddy is likely to stop shooting in an attempt to help them, get them a medic, whatever.

A hunting round is designed to knock down and kill a much larger target than a human being very, very fast. In fact, some of our favorite and most used hunting rounds were actually military rounds that proved to be overkill. .30-06, .308 (7.62NATO), .303, 8mm Mauser, etc. Now, if you've ever seen what 5.56/.223 or 7.62x39 do in ballistics gel compared to say, .308 or 7.62x54R, you know that the latter leave much, much bigger holes, cause much greater damage to internal organs and tissue from the shock wave, and splinter bone really nicely, meaning it's tougher to abrade the wound and keep it from turning septic. What's more, those more powerful "hunting" rounds will punch through a lot more cover. Be it a car door, or a classroom door, someone with a fast bolt-action (straight pull) or a self-loading non-assault rifle is going to be able to do far more damage than someone with an AR or AK platform weapon. I'd hate to see what would happen if someone went apeshiat with a SVT-40. Of course, if you really, really, really want to kill someone though, and leave no doubt about it. Segmented foster slugs in 3" 12ga shells are going to do the job every time. Even if you're wearing a vest, they' ...



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2012-12-22 10:10:38 AM  
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