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(London Free Press)   Muslims boost Catholic food drive: "To us, the spirit of Christmas is the spirit of brotherly love, and why wouldn't we want to be a part of it?"   (lfpress.com) divider line 153
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2012-12-21 04:27:29 AM  
Most people are decent regardless of whatever beliefs they have. The sky is also blue.
 
2012-12-21 04:32:44 AM  
In a way, Muslims are Christians. Jesus was a prophet who will come back again on judgment day. It's kind of Christianity-lite. Muslims listen to Jesus, but don't believe him to be God's son. However, Mary was a virgin when he was conceived.

I'm still trying to understand this. I've only been a Muslim since April.
 
2012-12-21 04:36:08 AM  

EmmaLou: I'm still trying to understand this. I've only been a Muslim since April.


Your grid 10 digit coordinates and elevation please (AGL preferred).
 
2012-12-21 04:36:21 AM  

taurusowner: Rockstone: I'm a Catholic, and I'd like to point out that we don't think anything different of the Muslims than any other religious group. Note that Pope John Paul II prayed with Muslims.

/ I have talked to alot of the fundamentalists who are convinced that Muslims are evil. I don't understand why. Muslims are very devout, religious people who do believe Jesus was a prophet.


Then you're not a Catholic. And Muslims do believe different things. Part of Christianity is believing Jesus is God. I'm not being critical of you. You can believe whatever you want. But words mean things. They have definitions and set parameters. The primary parameter for someone calling themselves "Christian" (and Catholicism is a Christian denomination) is believing Jesus is God Himself. Not a prophet. That's just a fact.


There have been huge violent bloody debates among "christians" about the diety of Christ. It's not that simple.
 
2012-12-21 04:40:29 AM  

EmmaLou: In a way, Muslims are Christians. Jesus was a prophet who will come back again on judgment day. It's kind of Christianity-lite. Muslims listen to Jesus, but don't believe him to be God's son. However, Mary was a virgin when he was conceived.

I'm still trying to understand this. I've only been a Muslim since April.


Oooooh, poor Joseph. Suckered in by the '"i'm a virgin" lie like billions of other guys. Mary's facebook would beg to differ.

/stop lying, whores
/we know that 'just two'' means 15...
 
2012-12-21 05:04:43 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Catholics who act like real Catholics and Muslims who act like real Muslims?! It's not rare, but welcome. But don't worry all you fun bigots, the Catholics will soon go back to their abortion hospital bombings and the Muslims will behead a idolatrous person or two soon; it's just inevitable, right?


In America evangelicals tend to bomb abortion clinics, not Catholics. But if you want to attribute one negative stereotype, I'd go with pedo priests for Catholics instead.
 
2012-12-21 05:07:43 AM  

coco ebert: DarkSoulNoHope: Catholics who act like real Catholics and Muslims who act like real Muslims?! It's not rare, but welcome. But don't worry all you fun bigots, the Catholics will soon go back to their abortion hospital bombings and the Muslims will behead a idolatrous person or two soon; it's just inevitable, right?

In America evangelicals tend to bomb abortion clinics, not Catholics. But if you want to attribute one negative stereotype, I'd go with pedo priests for Catholics instead.


I don't know about that. I think I would stick with genocide and crimes against humanity.
 
2012-12-21 05:33:49 AM  

taurusowner: believing Jesus is God Himself. Not a prophet. That's just a fact.


That's 100% true.

But Islam is also 87% closer to Christianity than any of the other options, so given the alternatives you'd expect Christians to accept Muslims before most other options. Which is not actually what you find in practice. Hence the recognition/celebration of the unexpected solidarity.
 
2012-12-21 05:34:40 AM  
Propaganda is a dangerous weapon. "The slow blade penetrates the shield"
 
2012-12-21 05:59:00 AM  

arentol: Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, but the Catholic church has worked on positive community projects with every major religion out there, and are willing to do so whenever the opportunity can be found. The Catholic church is actually probably the most open-minded Christian religion there is when it comes to accepting other churches as partners in doing good. Curiously enough though they actually have a harder time getting other Christians to work with them than non-Christian religions.


Ah, the Joy of Sects.
 
2012-12-21 06:05:31 AM  

taurusowner: Jamrock: taurusowner: Then you're not a Catholic.

Reading comprehension, son

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Muslims believe Jesus was a prohpet
Christians believe Jesus is God, not just a prophet.
Poster claims that Muslims believe the same things as Catholics

That doesn't make sense. No they don't believe the same things.


Not exactly. "Muslims believe the same things as Catholics" would be "we don't think anything different from the Muslims". What was actually said was "we don't think anything different of the Muslims", which is more along the lines of "The Cathiolic sentiment towards Islam is not substantially diferent from the average Catholic sentiment toward the majority of other non-Catholic sects"
 
2012-12-21 06:10:04 AM  

taurusowner: Jamrock: taurusowner: Then you're not a Catholic.

Reading comprehension, son

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Muslims believe Jesus was a prohpet
Christians believe Jesus is God, not just a prophet.
Poster claims that Muslims believe the same things as Catholics

That doesn't make sense. No they don't believe the same things.

This is where you messed up. OP never claimed this, you failed in your reading of his post. let's see what he originally said.

Rockstone: I'm a Catholic, and I'd like to point out that we don't think anything different of the Muslims than any other religious group. Note that Pope John Paul II prayed with Muslims.

/ I have talked to alot of the fundamentalists who are convinced that Muslims are evil. I don't understand why. Muslims are very devout, religious people who do believe Jesus was a prophet.


Rockstone is saying that we (Catholics) regard Muslims in the same way they (Catholics) regard any other religious group

Now you can take this two ways. If you think Rockstone is a Progressive RC, which he prolly is as he speaks well of JP 2, then he is saying that Catholics, like all faiths and enjoy the dialogue between groups. But a regressive Catholic, or any snarky bastard on Fark, will point out that a "True Catholic" believes all non Catholics are going to hell, so Muslims are just the same as Lutherans.
 
2012-12-21 06:11:16 AM  

taurusowner: Jamrock: taurusowner: Then you're not a Catholic.

Reading comprehension, son

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Muslims believe Jesus was a prohpet
Christians believe Jesus is God, not just a prophet.
Poster claims that Muslims believe the same things as Catholics

That doesn't make sense. No they don't believe the same things.


Rockstone didn't say that catholics think the same as muslims. He said catholics don't think different of muslims than they do of any other religion.
 
2012-12-21 06:17:46 AM  
Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.
 
2012-12-21 06:19:45 AM  

WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...


Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.
 
2012-12-21 06:21:54 AM  

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail,


It wouldn't be the same without you.

/atheist
//knows the universe is, like, really, really huge
 
2012-12-21 06:26:24 AM  

jso2897: WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...

Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.


fark you Man! that shiat is DELICIOUS! i would actually sit through an hour and 15 min RC service again to get some Watergate or Ambrosia salad.

/technically an atheist
//agnostic atheist

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.


Well just as you judge a group by its worst members, so do some members of fark

/both sides are bad
 
2012-12-21 06:31:43 AM  

Dansker: muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail,

It wouldn't be the same without you.

/atheist
//knows the universe is, like, really, really huge


I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space
 
2012-12-21 06:37:40 AM  

Moonk: jso2897: WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...

Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.

fark you Man! that shiat is DELICIOUS! i would actually sit through an hour and 15 min RC service again to get some Watergate or Ambrosia salad.

/technically an atheist
//agnostic atheist

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.

Well just as you judge a group by its worst members, so do some members of fark

/both sides are bad


In the world of fark.com bigotry against Muslims, Christians, and Jews is called snark. Please refer to it that way.
 
2012-12-21 06:39:55 AM  

Moonk:
I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space


Imagine a walnut in Johannesburg...
 
2012-12-21 06:42:37 AM  

muck4doo: Moonk: jso2897: WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...

Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.

fark you Man! that shiat is DELICIOUS! i would actually sit through an hour and 15 min RC service again to get some Watergate or Ambrosia salad.

/technically an atheist
//agnostic atheist

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.

Well just as you judge a group by its worst members, so do some members of fark

/both sides are bad

In the world of fark.com bigotry against Muslims, Christians, and Jews is called snark. Please refer to it that way.


And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.
 
2012-12-21 06:44:03 AM  

Dansker: muck4doo: Moonk: jso2897: WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...

Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.

fark you Man! that shiat is DELICIOUS! i would actually sit through an hour and 15 min RC service again to get some Watergate or Ambrosia salad.

/technically an atheist
//agnostic atheist

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.

Well just as you judge a group by its worst members, so do some members of fark

/both sides are bad

In the world of fark.com bigotry against Muslims, Christians, and Jews is called snark. Please refer to it that way.

And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.


Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.
 
2012-12-21 06:47:04 AM  

Dansker: And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.


i don't think he will

muck4doo: Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.


nope, he didn't.
 
2012-12-21 06:49:37 AM  

muck4doo:

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.


I don't know why you would expect a random collection of anonymous people who like arguing on the internet to be moral guides for the planet, but at least on Fark we don't kill each other. Nobody ever died from snark.
 
2012-12-21 06:51:36 AM  

Hetfield: Rockstone: Note that Pope John Paul II prayed with Muslims.

Yeah, and now he's dead. Coincidence? I think not.


That made me LOL. Waaaaay too funny.

\Thanks
 
2012-12-21 06:51:53 AM  

Moonk: Dansker: And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.

i don't think he will

muck4doo: Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

nope, he didn't.


You can sure show those religious people who is right, by being as big a douchebag bigot as they are. Or, you can set an example. Choose your own path.

jasonfeldman.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-21 06:53:36 AM  

Dansker: muck4doo:

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

I don't know why you would expect a random collection of anonymous people who like arguing on the internet to be moral guides for the planet, but at least on Fark we don't kill each other. Nobody ever died from snark.


Sorry. I'd like to see people being nicer to each other. I know that is too much to ask for.
 
2012-12-21 06:55:11 AM  

muck4doo:
You can sure show those religious people who is right, by being as big a douchebag bigot as they are


No, I don't think I will follow your example.
 
2012-12-21 06:55:33 AM  
The Bible clearly states that we are saved by faith alone (Rom 3:28, Eph 2:8, etc.) and not by works. All this sucking up to to Jesus won't save them from eternal damnation unless they are prepared to accept Him as their Lord and Savior.
 
2012-12-21 06:56:51 AM  

muck4doo: Dansker: muck4doo:

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

I don't know why you would expect a random collection of anonymous people who like arguing on the internet to be moral guides for the planet, but at least on Fark we don't kill each other. Nobody ever died from snark.

Sorry. I'd like to see people being nicer to each other. I know that is too much to ask for.


No, it a fine request. And some Farkers are nice, while some are assholes. Currently, your acting like the latter.
 
2012-12-21 06:58:32 AM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: The Bible clearly states that we are saved by faith alone (Rom 3:28, Eph 2:8, etc.) and not by works.


It also clearly states the opposite.
 
2012-12-21 06:59:49 AM  

Dansker: muck4doo: Dansker: muck4doo:

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

I don't know why you would expect a random collection of anonymous people who like arguing on the internet to be moral guides for the planet, but at least on Fark we don't kill each other. Nobody ever died from snark.

Sorry. I'd like to see people being nicer to each other. I know that is too much to ask for.

No, it a fine request. And some Farkers are nice, while some are assholes. Currently, your acting like the latter.


Maybe i am and don't realize it. You have a merry Christmas, and it was fun playing Cyber nations with ya. Off to the IHOP I go now.
 
2012-12-21 07:01:52 AM  

muck4doo: Moonk: Dansker: And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.

i don't think he will

muck4doo: Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

nope, he didn't.

You can sure show those religious people who is right, by being as big a douchebag bigot as they are. Or, you can set an example. Choose your own path.

[jasonfeldman.files.wordpress.com image 245x400]


Naw, most of my family and a good chunk of my friends are religious, it doesn't bother me because none of them are evangellical in their beliefs. I was raised RC, very big on social justice, and not regressive in the least. I believe the term of Fark would be a cafeteria Catholic, or you know - the ones that actually try to be good and not buy every crystal cathedral that goes on sale. And our priest was Zen.
 
2012-12-21 07:04:11 AM  

muck4doo: Dansker: muck4doo: Dansker: muck4doo:

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.

I don't know why you would expect a random collection of anonymous people who like arguing on the internet to be moral guides for the planet, but at least on Fark we don't kill each other. Nobody ever died from snark.

Sorry. I'd like to see people being nicer to each other. I know that is too much to ask for.

No, it a fine request. And some Farkers are nice, while some are assholes. Currently, your acting like the latter.

Maybe i am and don't realize it. You have a merry Christmas, and it was fun playing Cyber nations with ya. Off to the IHOP I go now.


Now there's the Muck I like. Glædelig jul!
 
2012-12-21 07:05:22 AM  
So millions of Christians donating meals, helping the disadvantaged and buying gifts for the less fortunate on Christmas isn't news. One Islamist joins in the spirit of the season. Hero.uh... Yup.
 
2012-12-21 07:13:33 AM  

Proteios1: So millions of Christians donating meals, helping the disadvantaged and buying gifts for the less fortunate on Christmas isn't news. One Islamist joins in the spirit of the season. Hero.uh... Yup.


It's more than one, I don't know where you got "islamist" in that story, and yes, people from different religions coming together in peace, friendship and charity is worth celebrating.
 
2012-12-21 07:16:42 AM  

Moonk: taurusowner: Jamrock: taurusowner: Then you're not a Catholic.

Reading comprehension, son

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Muslims believe Jesus was a prohpet
Christians believe Jesus is God, not just a prophet.
Poster claims that Muslims believe the same things as Catholics

That doesn't make sense. No they don't believe the same things.
This is where you messed up. OP never claimed this, you failed in your reading of his post. let's see what he originally said. Rockstone: I'm a Catholic, and I'd like to point out that we don't think anything different of the Muslims than any other religious group. Note that Pope John Paul II prayed with Muslims.

/ I have talked to alot of the fundamentalists who are convinced that Muslims are evil. I don't understand why. Muslims are very devout, religious people who do believe Jesus was a prophet.

Rockstone is saying that we (Catholics) regard Muslims in the same way they (Catholics) regard any other religious group

Now you can take this two ways. If you think Rockstone is a Progressive RC, which he prolly is as he speaks well of JP 2, then he is saying that Catholics, like all faiths and enjoy the dialogue between groups. But a regressive Catholic, or any snarky bastard on Fark, will point out that a "True Catholic" believes all non Catholics are going to hell, so Muslims are just the same as Lutherans.


Please do not conflate our opinion of pious Muslims with those hateful followers of Luther.

/jk
 
2012-12-21 07:21:56 AM  

muck4doo: Dansker: muck4doo: Moonk: jso2897: WhippingBoy: If only atheists would do something for the good of humanity...

Well, we don't clog the roads on Sunday morning, and almost never bring that horrible Jello dish with marshmallows in it to potlucks.

fark you Man! that shiat is DELICIOUS! i would actually sit through an hour and 15 min RC service again to get some Watergate or Ambrosia salad.

/technically an atheist
//agnostic atheist

muck4doo: Muslims, Christians, and Jews are all people who know this world and the Universe are bigger than them, and they need answers. Fark.com is a place full of fail, and will answer that for them with the usual bigotry.

Well just as you judge a group by its worst members, so do some members of fark

/both sides are bad

In the world of fark.com bigotry against Muslims, Christians, and Jews is called snark. Please refer to it that way.

And both here and in the outside world when the religious are bigotted against atheists or eachother, it's called business as usual.
People suck. You'll get over it.

Good thing fark is setting the example for all to follow.


i18.photobucket.com

Uncle Jean-Paul says:

i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-21 07:23:36 AM  

ChubbyTiger: Moonk: taurusowner: Jamrock: taurusowner: Then you're not a Catholic.

Reading comprehension, son

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Muslims believe Jesus was a prohpet
Christians believe Jesus is God, not just a prophet.
Poster claims that Muslims believe the same things as Catholics

That doesn't make sense. No they don't believe the same things.
This is where you messed up. OP never claimed this, you failed in your reading of his post. let's see what he originally said. Rockstone: I'm a Catholic, and I'd like to point out that we don't think anything different of the Muslims than any other religious group. Note that Pope John Paul II prayed with Muslims.

/ I have talked to alot of the fundamentalists who are convinced that Muslims are evil. I don't understand why. Muslims are very devout, religious people who do believe Jesus was a prophet.

Rockstone is saying that we (Catholics) regard Muslims in the same way they (Catholics) regard any other religious group

Now you can take this two ways. If you think Rockstone is a Progressive RC, which he prolly is as he speaks well of JP 2, then he is saying that Catholics, like all faiths and enjoy the dialogue between groups. But a regressive Catholic, or any snarky bastard on Fark, will point out that a "True Catholic" believes all non Catholics are going to hell, so Muslims are just the same as Lutherans.

Please do not conflate our opinion of pious Muslims with those hateful followers of Luther.

/jk


Don't get me started on their unholy lust for lutefisk!

Proteios1: So millions of Christians donating meals, helping the disadvantaged and buying gifts for the less fortunate on Christmas isn't news. One Islamist joins in the spirit of the season. Hero.uh... Yup.


it is a nice story, and nice stories are sorely underreported, so it is good to see them when they are reported.

-3 for use of islamist
 
2012-12-21 07:28:08 AM  

sminkypinky: Religious groups (of whatever faith) who occasionally do alruicious acts, doesn't detract from the fact they are women-hating, gay-bashing intolerant fuktards as approved by their fictional texts.


Oh, bless your heart.
 
2012-12-21 07:36:17 AM  

sminkypinky: Religious groups (of whatever faith) who occasionally do alruicious acts, doesn't detract from the fact they are women-hating, gay-bashing intolerant fuktards as approved by their fictional texts.


Alruicious?
 
2012-12-21 07:54:08 AM  
I think if you tally up all the bad things done to muslims by christians and all the bad things done to christians by muslims, the christians would look very, very bad.
 
2012-12-21 08:02:25 AM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: The Bible clearly states that we are saved by faith alone (Rom 3:28, Eph 2:8, etc.) and not by works. All this sucking up to to Jesus won't save them from eternal damnation unless they are prepared to accept Him as their Lord and Savior.


Somebody burn this heathen!

They will know you by your fruits.
 
2012-12-21 08:05:27 AM  

LDM90: sminkypinky: Religious groups (of whatever faith) who occasionally do alruicious acts, doesn't detract from the fact they are women-hating, gay-bashing intolerant fuktards as approved by their fictional texts.

Alruicious?


www.okno.mk

My name is Mud, but call me Alruicious Devadander Abercrombie
 
2012-12-21 08:23:59 AM  
There is no down-side to this. Even if people put down their rifles just for one day on Christmas, there's no down side to Christmas in a war.
 
2012-12-21 08:24:03 AM  
Meanwhile the Total Fark atheists are mocking children from believing in God and crying until all traces of the holidays are out of sight.
 
2012-12-21 08:26:06 AM  

EmmaLou: In a way, Muslims are Christians. Jesus was a prophet who will come back again on judgment day. It's kind of Christianity-lite. Muslims listen to Jesus, but don't believe him to be God's son. However, Mary was a virgin when he was conceived.

I'm still trying to understand this. I've only been a Muslim since April.


In regards to the role of Christ, Muslims are more similar to Mormons than Catholics. Even some Jewish lites. They believe Jesus is a prophet but not the promised messiah and certainly not God
 
2012-12-21 08:31:57 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Mayhem_2006: SilentStrider: I wish this were more widespread, meaning it didn't need the hero tag.

Still, good on them.

It is very widespread, but very seldom reported.

Then it should be reported more. And the hate should be reported less, so we'd have an "Evildoer" tag instead.


Sorry dude, love and peace don't sell, whether promoted by religious groups or not. Saw it a lot growing up in the UCC (a church that, I have joked, is about as close to unitarian universalism as you can get while focusing on 'Jesus'.)
 
2012-12-21 08:37:50 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Meanwhile the Total Fark atheists are mocking children from believing in God and crying until all traces of the holidays are out of sight.


Have a very, merry Christmas, ya freakin' moran.
 
2012-12-21 08:45:53 AM  

Dansker: It also clearly states the opposite.


More to the point the opposite is the words of Jesus.
 
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