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2012-12-21 07:11:23 AM  

relcec: alright, I give up. you all may now go on biatching about the possibility you might actually have to pay a little closer to an appropriate tax rate for all that government you constantly demand.
you are all extremely selfish assholes.


**checks most recent LES**

My last federal tax withholding: 24.81% of my gross income.
State withholding: 5.96%.
FICA: 5.62%.

Grand total: 36.39% of my gross income is going to government.

And if you go with the payments for the full year, it's still 29.13%.

/I don't expect much of a refund off of that
 
2012-12-21 07:11:34 AM  
reclec arguing for higher taxes, Serious Black suggesting Obama shut down federal agencies and trigger a worldwide recession...I know I'm not drunk, but this thread is making me feel like I am.
 
2012-12-21 07:14:19 AM  

Serious Black: SevenizGud: Look to Greece. That's where we are headed.

Greece fails to collect over 30% of its tax burden because tax avoidance is the national sport. We are nothing like Greece.


Let's consider for a moment that the rich are playing games by funneling money into the Cayman Islands and Switzerland and corporations are holding money overseas so they don't have to pay. I'd say the analogy is pretty close with the exception of the Greek tax dodging strategy is not answering the doorbell when their tax collectors come around.
 
2012-12-21 07:18:25 AM  

Corvus: And when Boehner says that now the President and the Senate needs to figure it out, what does that even mean?


I noticed that too. Most pathetic buck passing I've ever seen.
 
2012-12-21 07:18:35 AM  

gulogulo: Aside from my own personal taxes going up, the fiscal cliff will also mean that the grants that I need to do science for the next three years will also be canceled. This isn't money for salaries for scientists (though it is so I can hire field technicians), but also for the equipment and overhead needed to do these studies. It was a study on the impacts of sea levels to heavily utilized natural resources.

This makes me incredibly nervous and sad.


Yeah I'm really worried about this too. =(

And yes, reclec has reading issues, since you said, in multiple places, you weren't pissed about the tax increases.
 
2012-12-21 07:18:41 AM  
Honestly, I don't give a fark anymore... I've been hovering just above the poverty line since 2006 or so.
It's obvious the GOP doesn't give a shiat about people like my family and they're going to do everything they can to make sure the wealthiest Americans never have to contribute anything towards recovery, and what they really want is for the avarice and excesses of the wealthy elite to be paid for by the poor and the middle classes.

I blame this entire mess on the GOP and I will never vote for any asshole with an (R) after their name again. Period.

As far as the poor, persecuted wealthy elite, fark them, too.
 
2012-12-21 07:29:21 AM  

Felgraf: reclec has reading issues


FTFY
 
2012-12-21 07:29:43 AM  
I'd call it the Keystone Kongress but the Kops usually had a common goal.
 
2012-12-21 07:31:32 AM  
I've heard more than once that the 'do-nothing Congress' of Truman's time passed 10 times as many bills as this one.
 
2012-12-21 07:34:21 AM  

Alphax: I've heard more than once that the 'do-nothing Congress' of Truman's time passed 10 times as many bills as this one.


www.politicalruminations.com
 
2012-12-21 07:38:14 AM  

Mentat: shower_in_my_socks: Problem is, even if there are moderate Republicans left, they've been blackmailed into sticking with the party, or they'll face a teabagger in their next primary.

The Tea Party is an anchor.  Boehner already tried to cut them loose by taking away key committee assignments.  Now other Republicans have to step up and put them in their place.


Go ahead and bash the tea party but they are a revolution that progressives hate. During the revolutionary war you tea party-like bashers were the crown's loyalists trying to stop freedom. You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.
 
2012-12-21 07:41:16 AM  

tkwasny: Mentat: shower_in_my_socks: Problem is, even if there are moderate Republicans left, they've been blackmailed into sticking with the party, or they'll face a teabagger in their next primary.

The Tea Party is an anchor.  Boehner already tried to cut them loose by taking away key committee assignments.  Now other Republicans have to step up and put them in their place.

Go ahead and bash the tea party but they are a revolution that progressives hate. During the revolutionary war you tea party-like bashers were the crown's loyalists trying to stop freedom. You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.


Lol
 
2012-12-21 07:45:17 AM  

tkwasny: You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.


Is this performance art?
 
2012-12-21 07:46:04 AM  

log_jammin: tkwasny: You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.

Is this performance art?


I thought so. I gave a robust laugh.
 
2012-12-21 07:49:52 AM  

log_jammin: Is this performance art?


I think it may be a new form of mime.  Behold, the new Marcel Marceau.  Happy solstice, dear.
 
2012-12-21 07:50:47 AM  

tkwasny: Go ahead and bash the tea party but they are a revolution that progressives hate. During the revolutionary war you tea party-like bashers were the crown's loyalists trying to stop freedom. You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.


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2012-12-21 07:52:27 AM  

gulogulo: Thunderpipes: Weird how Obama is holding the middle class hostage, all to punish people who create jobs.

But that is what Democrats do. Punishing successful people to no gain is worth more than doing the right thing.

How is he holding the middle class hostage?


Same way he said the Pubs are, except the pubs aren't holding them hostage in exchange for punishment.

Obama sucks.
 
2012-12-21 07:53:03 AM  
fark Them All
 
2012-12-21 07:53:42 AM  

keylock71: Honestly, I don't give a fark anymore... I've been hovering just above the poverty line since 2006 or so.
It's obvious the GOP doesn't give a shiat about people like my family and they're going to do everything they can to make sure the wealthiest Americans never have to contribute anything towards recovery, and what they really want is for the avarice and excesses of the wealthy elite to be paid for by the poor and the middle classes.

I blame this entire mess on the GOP and I will never vote for any asshole with an (R) after their name again. Period.

As far as the poor, persecuted wealthy elite, fark them, too.


Maybe if you actually, you know, worked hard instead of wanting handouts, your family would be in better shape? Always someone more poor than you. Maybe you should be punished, stripped of your iPad and have everything given to them. Not fair you have some money.
 
2012-12-21 07:54:51 AM  
The South - Proudly Serving as the Turd In America's Punchbowl since 1861.
 
2012-12-21 07:59:34 AM  

Thunderpipes: Maybe if you actually, you know, worked hard instead of wanting handouts, your family would be in better shape? Always someone more poor than you. Maybe you should be punished, stripped of your iPad and have everything given to them. Not fair you have some money.


www.troycitydesign.com

I'm self-employed, teach part-time and have another part time job. I work six days a week, putting in 40-50 hours. I receive nothing in the form of "handouts". Every dollar I make is a dollar I hustled for, sometimes employing sub-contractors when I'm lucky enough to get a big enough contract requiring them. I work within my community and all my clients are small businesses.

In short, shove your ignorant bullshiat up your ass.
 
2012-12-21 08:01:47 AM  
graphics8.nytimes.com
Is there any question now why he chose the "Corvette" of gavels?
 
2012-12-21 08:04:00 AM  
So...the teabaggers are revolting?
 
2012-12-21 08:05:34 AM  

Thunderpipes: Maybe if you actually, you know, worked hard instead of wanting handouts, your family would be in better shape? Always someone more poor than you. Maybe you should be punished, stripped of your iPad and have everything given to them. Not fair you have some money


Ahh .. .isn't that cute, another special little snowflake who believes he deserves a cookie because he gets up in the morning and goes to work like the rest of us.

Sorry you wanted to spend several trillion dollars needlessly blowing up brown skin people, who had nothing to do with 9/11 so you could feverishly stroke your flaccid impotent shaft to tactical pron on the Military Channel and put a meaningless trite bumper sticker on your car, but I'm afraid the check is due. Time to cough up like the rest of us.
 
2012-12-21 08:11:13 AM  

RandomRandom: So who's going to be the new Speaker of the House?

Boehner shouldn't even want the job any longer. The teabaggers set him up, then left him out to hang. He should be thinking "fark them".

If the tea party installs one of their own as speaker, any remaining charade of Republican willingness to negotiate will evaporate. Boehner may be a terrible leader, but he's not a complete wingnut. If they vote a tea party wingnut into the job, it might result in their losing the house in the 2014 mid-terms.

/Here's hoping
//We are almost certainly going over the cliff. Now, the Republicans are going to get all of the blame.
///Popcorn


Christ. I hadn't even thought about that. Having a Tea-Party Speaker might actually nail the coffin shut on the GOP's congressional election chances in two years. Assuming we all live that long.
 
2012-12-21 08:12:07 AM  
The Mayan Apocolypse wasn't a calendar but rather a horoscope for John Boehner, because his career is facing a political apocolypse.
 
2012-12-21 08:19:35 AM  
I'm glad the republican party, disastrous threat to the security and well-being of the nation that it is, is finally falling completely apart, I just wish they hadn't waited until right before a whole bunch of menacing and less-than-optimal fiscal changes kicks in during a shaky economic period.

Guess these scumbags couldn't help but leave that one last upper-decker on their way to the dustbin of history....
 
2012-12-21 08:19:50 AM  
I have to wonder if we might see a significant chunk of republicans/so-called 'rinos' defect. How many would have to to give the democrats the majority in the house?
 
2012-12-21 08:20:09 AM  
Guys, Boehner is honestly a decent guy compared to the rest of his party. It's that farking shiatweasel Cantor that is constantly poisoning the well. Consider what you just saw: Boehner was willing to raise taxes on millionaires. Who would have considered such a thing months ago? This might not be enough to please the Democrats, but at least he is trying to take small steps in that direction.
 
2012-12-21 08:20:49 AM  

CowboyUpCowgirlDown: [thedcam.com image 450x292]


I would imagine that to be very cold.
 
2012-12-21 08:23:33 AM  
greedy, old. people.
 
2012-12-21 08:26:16 AM  
None of you really thought there would be a deal before Christmas did you? Neither party wants that. This is all political theater at its best. American's love drama. If they had a thousand years to come up with a plan to avert this fiscal nosedive they would wait until the last day and the last hour.

Just from a negotiating stand point no body makes a deal until the have to make a deal. If you make the deal early your constituents think you could have gotten more by staying in negotiations longer. So no deal happens until the clock runs out.

The deal will be struck after Christmas and it won't get signed until after new years.
 
2012-12-21 08:26:41 AM  

jaybeezey: He was prepared to accept Pelosi's old plan, but she suddenly was not.


That doesn't really map out well.

Are you talking about the plan from two years ago? Some things have happened in the meanwhile that changed the negotiating landscape. If it was a good deal then, Boner should have taken it.

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RIP SPEAKER CLOWNSHOES
November 17, 2010 - December 20, 2012

 
2012-12-21 08:27:12 AM  

InmanRoshi: Ahh .. .isn't that cute, another special little snowflake who believes he deserves a cookie because he gets up in the morning and goes to work like the rest of us.


It's just the same old bullshiat the GOP and its supporters have been shoveling since the 80s... If you're not financially well-off, it's your fault for not working hard enough, and you're just a leech wanting "handouts" from the government.

These ignorant assholes really think only Republicans or "conservatives" (They're not conservatives, they're radical regressive plutocrats, but that's for another discussion) work hard and contribute to society.

It's the kind of small-minded, black and white thinking I've come to expect from these mental midgets.
 
2012-12-21 08:30:20 AM  
I heard on Lawrence O'Donnell his only hope now is to sweeten the deal for the Dems so much he can get all of their votes and then try to cobble together enough Reps to pass something. That'd be funnier than hell to watch. Not to mention good for the country if we had a viable option to governing and could finally get past the teabagger shiatstain blotch on our collective shorts.
 
2012-12-21 08:31:19 AM  
If you tank the economy, you fark wits, we'll all want to revolt against the rich

/PS, I'm not an American
 
2012-12-21 08:35:42 AM  

keylock71: InmanRoshi: Ahh .. .isn't that cute, another special little snowflake who believes he deserves a cookie because he gets up in the morning and goes to work like the rest of us.

It's just the same old bullshiat the GOP and its supporters have been shoveling since the 80s... If you're not financially well-off, it's your fault for not working hard enough, and you're just a leech wanting "handouts" from the government.


Which is kinda funny, considering ..........

stangzine.com
 
2012-12-21 08:37:46 AM  

Taylor Mental: I heard on Lawrence O'Donnell his only hope now is to sweeten the deal for the Dems so much he can get all of their votes and then try to cobble together enough Reps to pass something. That'd be funnier than hell to watch. Not to mention good for the country if we had a viable option to governing and could finally get past the teabagger shiatstain blotch on our collective shorts.


And if he thought negotiating with Obama was hard, wait till he has to negotiate with someone who has a big hairy set of ten pound balls like Nancy Pelosi.
 
2012-12-21 08:38:34 AM  

DarkSkyForever: Now... just stay with me here... now why can't we just let tax rates rise back to Clinton levels?


That would work.  If we also had Clinton levels of spending.
 
2012-12-21 08:39:33 AM  
I am outraged that the congresscritters are getting a paid holiday on christmas eve! They should work like the rest of the federal employees. Those welfare queens.
 
2012-12-21 08:40:27 AM  

Frogfoot: This is all political theater at its best.


In the minds of the 'baggers maybe. I don't think Boehner volunteered to play Pagliacci.

/as he would want to avoid being typecast...
 
2012-12-21 08:40:54 AM  

SlothB77: DarkSkyForever: Now... just stay with me here... now why can't we just let tax rates rise back to Clinton levels?

That would work.  If we also had Clinton levels of spending.


Maybe next time, we shouldn't simultaneously go to war and cut taxes.
 
2012-12-21 08:47:31 AM  
 
2012-12-21 08:59:01 AM  
Just saw that Boehner's office put out a statement to distance himself from the negotiations, saying that now it was up to Obama to work with Harry Reid on coming up with the legislation necessary to fix this mess. All revenue bills must originate in the House, and Reid and Obama are on the same page on what Democrats are willing to give up to avert the cliff. This "don't blame me, I already did my part" line doesn't work if you've refused to pass anything besides that Ryan budget almost a year ago (which voters pretty obviously rejected seeing the polls that even Republicans saw the election as a referendum on the tax debate).

He's going to put out a statement that Obama and Reid were dragging their tails and that the fiscal cliff is the result of Democrats being unable to reign in their caucus any minute now, I'm sure.
 
2012-12-21 09:02:34 AM  

tkwasny: Mentat: shower_in_my_socks: Problem is, even if there are moderate Republicans left, they've been blackmailed into sticking with the party, or they'll face a teabagger in their next primary.

The Tea Party is an anchor.  Boehner already tried to cut them loose by taking away key committee assignments.  Now other Republicans have to step up and put them in their place.

Go ahead and bash the tea party but they are a revolution that progressives hate. During the revolutionary war you tea party-like bashers were the crown's loyalists trying to stop freedom. You big govt, kill the revenue makers (you call them the rich) progressives are the reason we're in this mess. Both Republicans and Democrats are the progressives and have been for decades.


You have to really, really try to get everything completely backwards like that.
 
2012-12-21 09:03:03 AM  

Tommy Moo: Guys, Boehner is honestly a decent guy compared to the rest of his party. It's that farking shiatweasel Cantor that is constantly poisoning the well. Consider what you just saw: Boehner was willing to raise taxes on millionaires. Who would have considered such a thing months ago? This might not be enough to please the Democrats, but at least he is trying to take small steps in that direction.


That's the point. Boehner is completely ineffective and can't control his own party.
 
2012-12-21 09:04:27 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Worse. Speaker. Of. The. House. Ever.

This man is bad at his job.


This.
 
2012-12-21 09:05:16 AM  

InmanRoshi: Taylor Mental: I heard on Lawrence O'Donnell his only hope now is to sweeten the deal for the Dems so much he can get all of their votes and then try to cobble together enough Reps to pass something. That'd be funnier than hell to watch. Not to mention good for the country if we had a viable option to governing and could finally get past the teabagger shiatstain blotch on our collective shorts.

And if he thought negotiating with Obama was hard, wait till he has to negotiate with someone who has a big hairy set of ten pound balls like Nancy Pelosi.


LOL, they hate her. Mostly because, as a grandmother, she has years of experience quelling the disputes of petulant children.
 
2012-12-21 09:06:27 AM  

Tommy Moo: Guys, Boehner is honestly a decent guy compared to the rest of his party. It's that farking shiatweasel Cantor that is constantly poisoning the well. Consider what you just saw: Boehner was willing to raise taxes on millionaires. Who would have considered such a thing months ago? This might not be enough to please the Democrats, but at least he is trying to take small steps in that direction.


That's going to be "Speaker Shiatweasel" in a few weeks.
 
2012-12-21 09:08:01 AM  

Krieghund: Rann Xerox: Darth_Lukecash: Worse. Speaker. Of. The. House. Ever.
This man is bad at his job.

Boehner is a little better as Speaker of the House than this guy was:
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Theodore_M._Pomeroy

How do you figure? Pomeroy didn't do anything. I wish we were so lucky with Boehner.


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