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(Buzzfeed)   The Chechen Army has some impressive guns. These...are not those guns   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 129
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2012-12-20 07:55:43 PM
some of those don't look very accurate
 
2012-12-20 08:52:10 PM

some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate


I agree. They should all have bayonets to be effective
 
2012-12-20 08:57:21 PM
 
2012-12-20 09:11:16 PM

zedster: I liked this one, man build AK out of Shovel


ftfm
 
2012-12-20 09:13:12 PM

zedster: I liked this one, man builds AK out of Shovel


I thoroughly enjoyed that, thank you.
 
2012-12-20 09:14:05 PM
These are not they.
 
2012-12-20 09:15:48 PM
www.jorymon.com
 
2012-12-20 09:17:52 PM
AKs are suddenly hard to get in the Eastern bloc area? Well the Mayans were right, fark.
 
2012-12-20 09:21:16 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net


Chechnya has been overrun by orks ?
 
2012-12-20 09:23:04 PM
Building a gun is impressive to me.
 
2012-12-20 09:23:09 PM
The WW2 Sten gun prototype was built from hardware parts in a kitchen. I've seen crude shotguns made from black iron pipe. Getting a gun is more difficult than making one, it seems.
 
2012-12-20 09:25:53 PM
Those look like weapons I started out with in Borderlands.
 
2012-12-20 09:27:16 PM

zedster: I liked this on, man build AK out of Shovel


That was amazing, the coolest thing I've read all week.
 
2012-12-20 09:27:39 PM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

is definitely the most dubious of the bunch. It might also be the most accurate.

/I don't care to find out either way.
 
2012-12-20 09:28:17 PM

zedster: I liked this on, man build AK out of Shovel


Since I've been to a few AK build parties, I got a real kick out of that...thanks!
 
2012-12-20 09:30:08 PM

Apos: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x450]

is definitely the most dubious of the bunch. It might also be the most accurate.

/I don't care to find out either way.


Looks like it might be a 40mm grenade launcher.
 
2012-12-20 09:33:50 PM
fallout.neoseeker.com

Don't laugh. That thing can take a Super Mutant's head off with a teddy bear!
 
2012-12-20 09:34:14 PM

zedster: I liked this on, man build AK out of Shovel


subspacecomms.com

back in my day we didn't even get a shovel
 
2012-12-20 09:35:04 PM

some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate


If you don't like it, kill someone with a better gun.
 
2012-12-20 09:35:11 PM
finalbossfight.co.uk

Careful- that thing heats up like crazy!
 
2012-12-20 09:35:58 PM
Left this in a few threads previously. Relevant again.

/for education only
//no, honest, it is
 
2012-12-20 09:36:37 PM

UsikFark: some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate

If you don't like it, kill someone with a better gun.


hellinahandbasket.net

So, don't bother killing someone with this gun.
 
2012-12-20 09:37:01 PM
Once "gun control" hits the US, we'll be building these in our garages too.
 
2012-12-20 09:38:15 PM
s3-ec.buzzfed.coms3-ec.buzzfed.com

You're bordering on "Steampunk" there.
I don't think "Chechenpunk" will quite catch on, though.
 
2012-12-20 09:40:17 PM

Oznog: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x450][s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x450]

You're bordering on "Steampunk" there.
I don't think "Chechenpunk" will quite catch on, though.


That bottom one looks like the "Pirate Gun" from No Easy Day, minus the cammo paint job.
 
2012-12-20 09:44:19 PM
fc05.deviantart.net
 
2012-12-20 09:44:30 PM

some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate


They only have to be accurate and reliable enough to ambush one enemy and take his weapons.

I love photos like this. It shows the sheer absurdity of attempts to ban guns. If you can't buy one, you can make one that's good enough to get you something better.

An open bolt, full auto SMG is one of the mechanically simplest firearms around. It's actually MORE difficult to make it NOT be full auto. Going with a pistol caliber round means that you can use a mass-delayed blowback action, which is dirt simple compared to a gas operated locking bolt action which you'd need for a rifle caliber cartridge.
 
2012-12-20 09:44:35 PM
Our teachers are smart enough to educate our kids maybe they could build their own weapons, hell lets let the kids help. The only solution that I can see is if EVERYONE is armed at all times, and can spray bullets willy nilly. That will stop all of this gun violence.... right?

/first time trolling, hope I'm doing it right?
 
2012-12-20 09:44:53 PM

MemeSlave: Once "gun control" hits the US, we'll be building these in our garages too.


What puzzled me is Khyber Pass guns. The weaponsmiths are fantastically good at producing copies of popular, manufactured guns, but with relatively crude tools.
They're remarkably close to the originals, but "not quite", and may be out-of-shape or have spelling errors in the markings.
Quality is unpredictable and explosion is possible, especially without underloaded ammunition.

I'm just puzzled why they don't design a gun which they have the technology to manufacture reliably.
 
2012-12-20 09:47:13 PM

thorthor: Our teachers are smart enough to educate our kids maybe they could build their own weapons, hell lets let the kids help. The only solution that I can see is if EVERYONE is armed at all times, and can spray bullets willy nilly. That will stop all of this gun violence.... right?

/first time trolling, hope I'm doing it right?


3/10

Would be 2/10, but it's your first time.
 
2012-12-20 09:47:49 PM

MemeSlave: Once "gun control" hits the US, we'll be building these in our garages too.


Yeah that farking Negro is gonna take our guns! Herp dederp de derp.
 
2012-12-20 09:48:25 PM
WAAAGH!

/ Da Orkz
 
2012-12-20 09:48:58 PM

Oznog: MemeSlave: Once "gun control" hits the US, we'll be building these in our garages too.

What puzzled me is Khyber Pass guns. The weaponsmiths are fantastically good at producing copies of popular, manufactured guns, but with relatively crude tools.
They're remarkably close to the originals, but "not quite", and may be out-of-shape or have spelling errors in the markings.
Quality is unpredictable and explosion is possible, especially without underloaded ammunition.

I'm just puzzled why they don't design a gun which they have the technology to manufacture reliably.


Because the quality of steel you need to produce reliable firearms for modern ammunition is pretty high tech, and definitely beyond the capacity of village gunsmiths who are using whatever random scraps they can get for raw material. They don't make ammo; they buy it, and so they make guns that fit it.
 
2012-12-20 09:49:55 PM
"The Chechen Army has some impressive guns. These...are not those guns"


And yet somehow I'm impressed.
 
2012-12-20 09:52:24 PM
This will be Obama's legacy.
 
2012-12-20 09:54:53 PM

doglover: thorthor: Our teachers are smart enough to educate our kids maybe they could build their own weapons, hell lets let the kids help. The only solution that I can see is if EVERYONE is armed at all times, and can spray bullets willy nilly. That will stop all of this gun violence.... right?

/first time trolling, hope I'm doing it right?

3/10

Would be 2/10, but it's your first time.


Thanks for the feedback ill keep trying
 
2012-12-20 09:55:13 PM

clyph: some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate

They only have to be accurate and reliable enough to ambush one enemy and take his weapons.

I love photos like this. It shows the sheer absurdity of attempts to ban guns. If you can't buy one, you can make one that's good enough to get you something better.

An open bolt, full auto SMG is one of the mechanically simplest firearms around. It's actually MORE difficult to make it NOT be full auto. Going with a pistol caliber round means that you can use a mass-delayed blowback action, which is dirt simple compared to a gas operated locking bolt action which you'd need for a rifle caliber cartridge.


www.extremetech.com

Well you ain't going on a killing spree with any of theose. I'm not saying you couldn't kill someone, but it'd likely be only one person, most likely yourself.

The significant technology that got demonstrated recently was 3D printing a gun's lower receiver. Now the upper receiver and barrel were all mfg gun parts, but the trouble is, the law regards those as REPLACEMENT parts, not a firearm, and are largely uncontrolled.

The lower receiver is considered "the gun", even though it has the least stressed parts in it. But the stressed parts like the barrel wears out from the stress and they wanted people to be able to replace them without all the paperwork and registration of a new firearm. That logic has somewhat backfired as the receiver is relatively simple to make now, and getting an off-the-shelf replacement barrel and upper receiver makes a whole "new gun" at home.
 
2012-12-20 09:55:57 PM
I can't fap to this!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-20 09:56:41 PM
Shovel guy didn't make all of that gun himself. He used real parts where he wanted to, steampunk'd the rest.
 
2012-12-20 09:57:09 PM
JESUS farkING CHRIST PIGS WILD PIGS EVERYWHERE

i35.servimg.com
 
2012-12-20 09:58:12 PM
Did a quick google image search, appears the images started here http://englishrussia.com/2007/06/04/chechen-self-made-weapons/
 
2012-12-20 09:58:18 PM
And yet they seem to giving Putin all sorts of mayhem with these crap-ass tools.
 
2012-12-20 10:01:57 PM

Oznog: UsikFark: some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate

If you don't like it, kill someone with a better gun.

[hellinahandbasket.net image 850x564]

So, don't bother killing someone with this gun.


You probably know this already, but killing someone to get a better gun is exactly what that gun was meant for.
 
2012-12-20 10:02:12 PM
A Chechen shotgun:

imageshack.us
 
2012-12-20 10:03:12 PM

mbillips: [fc05.deviantart.net image 850x564]


Was not that firearm featured in Looper?
 
2012-12-20 10:04:13 PM

Oznog: I'm just puzzled why they don't design a gun which they have the technology to manufacture reliably.


They do, sort of. There are a lot of Khyber guns which are semi-original creations combining features from multiple commercial designs. You don't need to be a mechanical engineer to copy a working mechanism. Creating a new one from scratch is a lot more difficult.

The thing is that the Khyber Pass gunsmiths are artisans, not factory workers. Each weapon is a one-off creation of an individual craftsman or small team. It's a very pre-industrial approach to manufacturing.
 
2012-12-20 10:05:11 PM
On the one hand, i find these pictures cool and interesting.

On the other, I realize these were made for a guerrilla war that has been going on for years and cost the lvies of women and children.

And don't get me started on the whole terrorist thing over there...
 
2012-12-20 10:05:23 PM

Dimensio: mbillips: [fc05.deviantart.net image 850x564]

Was not that firearm featured in Looper?


Yup, fan copy of a Looper blunderbuss.
 
2012-12-20 10:05:49 PM

ultraholland: This will be Obama's legacy.


Never go full retard.
 
2012-12-20 10:06:28 PM

Oznog: clyph: some_beer_drinker: some of those don't look very accurate

They only have to be accurate and reliable enough to ambush one enemy and take his weapons.

I love photos like this. It shows the sheer absurdity of attempts to ban guns. If you can't buy one, you can make one that's good enough to get you something better.

An open bolt, full auto SMG is one of the mechanically simplest firearms around. It's actually MORE difficult to make it NOT be full auto. Going with a pistol caliber round means that you can use a mass-delayed blowback action, which is dirt simple compared to a gas operated locking bolt action which you'd need for a rifle caliber cartridge.

[www.extremetech.com image 638x371]

Well you ain't going on a killing spree with any of theose. I'm not saying you couldn't kill someone, but it'd likely be only one person, most likely yourself.

The significant technology that got demonstrated recently was 3D printing a gun's lower receiver. Now the upper receiver and barrel were all mfg gun parts, but the trouble is, the law regards those as REPLACEMENT parts, not a firearm, and are largely uncontrolled.

The lower receiver is considered "the gun", even though it has the least stressed parts in it. But the stressed parts like the barrel wears out from the stress and they wanted people to be able to replace them without all the paperwork and registration of a new firearm. That logic has somewhat backfired as the receiver is relatively simple to make now, and getting an off-the-shelf replacement barrel and upper receiver makes a whole "new gun" at home.


Uh-huh. I'll just use my 3D printer to- oh wait it's a stupid expensive tool for the price of which I could actually set up some tools and make my own gunsmithing shop.
 
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