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2012-12-21 09:40:42 AM  
It certainly can't have anything to do with the narcissistic world view of conservatives........in which ones personal needs are more important than anyone elses.
 
2012-12-21 09:53:23 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Free Radical: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

You forgot "Not enough male janitors with buckets"

And that America's twelve year old boys aren't husky enough to stop adults on shooting rampages.


And Moo-chelle O'Bummer is trying to get our kids to eat broccoli so they'll be even less husky and less able to stop heavily armed, mentally ill grown men set on murder-suicide.  Sociallist.
 
2012-12-21 09:55:35 AM  

Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.


Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?
 
2012-12-21 09:56:40 AM  

redslippers: Let's just go with the claims that sin and godlessness are responsible for all of the evils in the world for discussion's sake.

James 2:10 of the King James version of the bible states "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point of it has become accountable for all of it." This is commonly interpreted with other verses into the common phrase "all sins are created equal int he eyes of the Lord".

So let's just say, for sake of argument, that homosexuality is a sin (and let's just be clear that I do not believe it to be).

The rate of homosexuals in the Unites States is between 2 and 4% of the total population.

The rate of obesity in the United States is 35.7% of the total population.

Gluttony is according to Christian doctrine, not only clearly a sin, but one of the seven deadly sins.

If those morons are right, and all of these horrible things are happening because of sin, I've got news for them. It's a hell of a lot more likely to be the fault of the obese than the homosexuals. But let's say all the overweight people in the US don't have a single pound on them caused by overeating, they have zero complicity in their condition. Let's look at a few other sins.

Why don't we start with those who commit adultery, perhaps? Those rates are between 25 and 30% of the total population (depending on which study you go with) and actually higher in the evangelical population, just as are divorce rates.

How about lust? Sex surrounds us in our culture. Lust sells. It is a primary method of marketing. What percentage of adults do you think feel sexual attraction to someone other than their partner? That rate is virtually 100% of the population, including evangelicals. There is not a straight man on this earth who doesn't like to look at nice breasts or a pretty woman, or thought, in the common vernacular "dat ass!" from time to time.

Or lying. It has been studied extensively, and the old adage "everybody lies" holds true. And lying is actually named as one of the ...


Actually, that brings up something that i think is important. I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.
 
2012-12-21 10:06:16 AM  

greenboy: I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.


Why stop there? Break out the "God hates wrath" and "God hates pride" signs while you're at it. Throw in a "God hates sloth" for any of them that brought chairs to sit on.
 
2012-12-21 10:06:58 AM  

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


you guys are leaving off one.
Marylin Manson.
 
2012-12-21 10:14:08 AM  

Teufelaffe: greenboy: I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.

Why stop there? Break out the "God hates wrath" and "God hates pride" signs while you're at it. Throw in a "God hates sloth" for any of them that brought chairs to sit on.


Even more so, show Phelps' finances with god hates greed. Show it with the fact the WBC sues people for money, not to make a point.
 
2012-12-21 10:15:48 AM  
But I thought Green Lanterns stopped things like gun violence.
 
2012-12-21 10:17:50 AM  

crazyeddie: Things that cause gun violence, according to the GOP:
Educating Women
The 1968 Democratic Convention
Jon Stewart
Not enough guns
Video Games
Not enough guns in school
Not enough Masculine Teachers or Custodians
Atheism

Here's what I have so far...could use some help.


*sigh* Everybody knows the reason those kids were killed is because of Christianity. Jesus called them to his side so he could make some heavenly pedo porn, because he loves to fark the little children.
 
2012-12-21 10:19:16 AM  

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?
 
2012-12-21 10:29:13 AM  

BSABSVR: Mental illness.


I think this one needs to be more politicized, frankly.
 
2012-12-21 10:37:59 AM  
I thought jews just ate children, learn something new everyday.
 
2012-12-21 10:53:48 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I don't think people should be able to own guns like that anyway, because I can't see what legitimate purpose they serve, even for hunting.  Do you need to hit a deer with that many rounds?  It's a deer, not a coked-up grizzly bear.


The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression. Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.


We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

TLDR, The second amendment is still necessary.
 
2012-12-21 11:00:06 AM  

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


I'll bet Tucker Carlson does.
 
2012-12-21 11:00:40 AM  
prophet

prophet (pròf´ît) noun
1.A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
2.A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
3.A predictor; a soothsayer.
4.The chief spokesperson of a movement or cause.
5. Prophets (used with a sing. or pl. verb). Bible. The second of the three divisions of the Hebrew Scriptures, comprising the books of Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the Twelve.


imageshack.us

Fox News is chock full of Prophets.
 
2012-12-21 11:05:59 AM  

starsrift: Okay, Salon:
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When you have to spend a paragraph explaining who the guy is, maybe it's best not to talk about him and let folks know of his whackjobbery.



So the way to stop the fringe elements in the media and in society is for those who disagree to just ignore them, right?

If that's true, then how do these people gain followings before I hear about them?  Or is it more true that they have their own promotional methods and reach, and that they will exist whether or not I choose to ignore what makes me uncomfortable?
 
2012-12-21 11:06:16 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.
 
Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.
 
This.
 
Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"
 
There will be something grand from him. I assure you.


Go Fark yourself! Go Fark yourself!

It was then I found out that I like gospel because of the way it sounds, not the content.

/at least for sure. I mean, I love those old sing-alongs that the African slaves made for while one was working. Some mention the Lord, some don't.
But how often do you get to hear gospel music with 'the gospel' taken out?
//all folk music is like that btw. The Blues, delta blues, Bluegrass, etc.
 
2012-12-21 11:11:31 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Coco LaFemme: I don't think people should be able to own guns like that anyway, because I can't see what legitimate purpose they serve, even for hunting.  Do you need to hit a deer with that many rounds?  It's a deer, not a coked-up grizzly bear.

The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.


i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-21 11:12:39 AM  

Car_Ramrod: "[m]illions of Muslims around the world are convinced their messiah-known as 'the Twelfth Imam'-has just arrived on earth."

Penalty, offense, too many Imams on the Earth. Five yard penalty, remains first down.


Lulz
 
2012-12-21 11:14:17 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.


So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.
 
2012-12-21 11:16:24 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.


Yet...
 
2012-12-21 11:16:41 AM  
So how many of y'all motherfarkers who require 100% scientific proof that gun control works to eliminate 100% of gun problems also believe our other laws should be based on some 2,000 year old superstitious argle bargle about invisible sky-daddies?
 
2012-12-21 11:17:29 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.


Presidentin' while black? I'm sure that's what he's referring to when he thinks of tyranny.
 
2012-12-21 11:23:47 AM  

furiousxgeorge: God Can't Be Kept Out


That was pretty good.
I do wish some of my more religiously zealous friends would remember these things.


I think I'll send them a link.

/agnostic polytheist animist looney-tuney fresh & fruity myself. You are what you eat. God is a chef's salad.
 
2012-12-21 11:35:21 AM  

TheMysticS: Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.

This.

Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"

There will be something grand from him. I assure you.

Go Fark yourself! Go Fark yourself!

It was then I found out that I like gospel because of the way it sounds, not the content.

/at least for sure. I mean, I love those old sing-alongs that the African slaves made for while one was working. Some mention the Lord, some don't.
But how often do you get to hear gospel music with 'the gospel' taken out?
//all folk music is like that btw. The Blues, delta blues, Bluegrass, etc.


To be honest, I like Clementine much better if you change up the sound
 
2012-12-21 11:47:40 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.


If we reach a point where we need to physically defend ourselves from oppression by our own government, these are the tools that will be used by the oppressors:

static.ddmcdn.com
www.allamericanpatriots.com
www.wallpapergate.com

Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.
 
2012-12-21 11:47:56 AM  
Dear Jesus:

It seems that countries that are far more secular, and far more politically liberal than the US, have much fewer incidents of mass killings. Heck, 99% of the population in Japan doesn't believe in you at all, and they've had none.
Why are you being so nice to them, and so mean to us? Is this some kind of jilted lover thing?

Confused:
Dforkus
 
2012-12-21 12:05:34 PM  

ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.


Ouch.
:'(
That makes my heart hurt.
 
2012-12-21 12:09:01 PM  

diaphoresis: ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.

It is temporary... until he ends his own life.

90+% of all life's problems are temporary.
78.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Both of these are true


What of life's problems are not temporary? That 10%, what is that?
 
2012-12-21 12:11:03 PM  

Gen. Patton Harvey Oswalt: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?


I'm managing the LOTCATGOPATA.  I keep it in my Profile.  That keeps me busy enough.
 
2012-12-21 12:39:25 PM  

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Can I swipe this and post it to Facebook? If so, do you want credit?
 
2012-12-21 12:46:19 PM  

Teufelaffe: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.

If we reach a point where we need to physically defend ourselves from oppression by our own government, these are the tools that will be used by the oppressors:

[static.ddmcdn.com image 400x318]
[www.allamericanpatriots.com image 500x356]
[www.wallpapergate.com image 800x638]

Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


No, not if we form a regular army or militia and stand out in the open or hunker down in easily identified groups. We would get our ass shot off. On the other hand if we adopted assassination (which small arms are great for), IEDs, destruction of infrastructure, and insurgent tactics do you really believe the US government even with all it's sophisticated toys could manage to maintain order and rule a country as large and diverse as ours?

Hell we could not even control Afghanistan and Iraq with populations that were dirt poor, and clearly different then our own forces. With a highly educated rich populace that can easily blend in, infiltrate, and demolish your communications networks, supply networks, infrastructure and can carry out assassination of key targets there is no way the US military could successfully stop the overthrow of the government through an insurgency that had the support of the people. The only way to stop it would be to become a Hitler or Stalin and execute about 3 out of every 5 people.

So, yeah buying firearms that have high capacity magazines does make sense if you are planning for a popular uprising that has support of we the people.
 
2012-12-21 12:58:01 PM  

Karac: s2s2s2: This is Stewart's fault as well as Colbert's, because every time they go on break some unbelievable shiat happens.

I really do think both shows need to come up with a second string.
The weeks tht Jon's on vacation, they should just let the correspondents do a standup to clips of FoxNews on the green screen. They've got enough people to get a couple minutes out of each of them each night.


silvervial: I said this exact thing when I told my husband they were going on vacation until after New Year. I said, watch, some horrifying shiat is going to break out, it does every time, and he said they should be prevented from going on vacation. Never so sad to be right :(


Remember when the Tunisia and Egypt revolts (Arab Spring) happened while Stewart and Colbert were on vacation? The next Monday, Asif Mandvi (IIRC) was shown against a backdrop of a nice, calm Cairo, Egypt, and Stewart remarked at how calm it was over there, and Mandvi said that there was a lot of excitement and news going on "last week, Jon! Last week!!"
 
2012-12-21 01:18:18 PM  

doglover: crazyeddie: ox45tallboy:
Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.

Would you accept a god that would kill 42 children because they mock a bald man? Because we have one of those laying about. In fact, 42% of people in the US believe that this particular god created humans in their current form less than 10,000 years ago.

Congratulations, you are surrounded by religious idiots, and they will actively refuse to listen to reason.

God doesn't kill children. farkin' bears kill children.

Colbert was right.


And who, praytell, called on those bears, hmm? I'll give you a hint: three letters, starts with g, ends with d, rhymes (and probably synonymous with) "clod".
 
2012-12-21 01:32:39 PM  

greenboy: God hates sloth


God hate Sloth?

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2012-12-21 02:10:00 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: But I thought Green Lanterns stopped things like gun violence.


Hard light constructs my friend.
 
2012-12-21 03:51:55 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.


You're full of shiat. Most of those 200+year-old offenses aren't happening today. And as to your contention that our populace is one "that has some capacity to resist" is ludicrous. Are a few rifles, assault or otherwise, going to deter the Fed from using fighters, bombers, cruise missiles, mortars, artillery, tanks, etc. against its own people? Of course not, because the troops expected to fight are the people they're supposed to kill! Can you expect a platoon from KS or NC or ND or CA to bomb their own families or friends? Can you even imagine their officers issuing those orders?

If and when the Fed takes over, it will be though legal, commercial and espionage means. Patriot Act,

The 2nd Amendment is outdated. We can't stop our Federal government if they press the point violently. But we still have a civilian government, as opposed to a military government, so a violent move isn't going to be part of the Fed takingover. As lame as it is, the Fourth Estate is our best guard against oppression. They were the ones who brought down Nixon and gave Reagan and Clinton a monumental pile of shiat.
 
2012-12-21 04:32:36 PM  

Granny_Panties: Do you know what would have prevented Sandy Hook?

Ice cream sandwiches.


If Adam Lanza had tried suicide/murder instead of murder/suicide things would have worked out better.
 
2012-12-21 05:14:51 PM  

Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


The thing about this line of thought that really makes my head asplode is that these people are also perfectly convinced that the government  can take their guns from them, unless the NRA fervently lobbies congress to stop that from happening.

So, on the one hand, guns prevent tyranny but, on the other hand, you need constant lobbying to prevent the government from confiscating all your weapons so that you can... prevent tyranny?
 
2012-12-21 06:15:52 PM  

TheMysticS: diaphoresis: ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.

It is temporary... until he ends his own life.

90+% of all life's problems are temporary.
78.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Both of these are true

What of life's problems are not temporary? That 10%, what is that?


heat death of the universe. It's a big event, so it gets a lot of percents.
 
2012-12-21 06:23:50 PM  

greenboy: rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.

Yet...


Yet? Please! They've long since figured out all they have to do is put up neon lights and the nearby settlements come give them everything they want.
 
2012-12-21 06:43:00 PM  

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


Not really, but the libbies actually believe he's Walter Cronkite.
 
2012-12-21 07:35:43 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.

The thing about this line of thought that really makes my head asplode is that these people are also perfectly convinced that the government  can take their guns from them, unless the NRA fervently lobbies congress to stop that from happening.

So, on the one hand, guns prevent tyranny but, on the other hand, you need constant lobbying to prevent the government from confiscating all your weapons so that you can... prevent tyranny?


I've also noticed that these are the same people who are terrified that our government will institute Martial Law, but are now saying that we need armed guards in our schools.
 
2012-12-21 07:57:54 PM  

Tumunga: Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?

Not really, but the libbies actually believe he's Walter Cronkite.


Libby here. No, I don't think he's Cronkite. If Cronkite were alive he'd destroy these asswipes with much more journalistic acuity than Stewart wish he had. But Stewart is doing it for laughs, not journalism, and that's a big difference.
 
2012-12-21 08:05:17 PM  

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


I remember that shiatstain Rick Santelli chickened out on going to his show.
 
2012-12-21 09:58:36 PM  
"God" is under-whelming if it can be removed from anything.
 
2012-12-21 11:44:56 PM  

mrshowrules: Gen. Patton Harvey Oswalt: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?

I'm managing the LOTCATGOPATA.  I keep it in my Profile.  That keeps me busy enough.


I have most of the quotes already saved to a document, I can put it in my profile like you do with the LOTCATGOPATA.
Working on it right now
 
2012-12-22 12:56:57 AM  

Teufelaffe: I've also noticed that these are the same people who are terrified that our government will institute Martial Law, but are now saying that we need armed guards in our schools.


Well, Fox News and the NRA said this was a good idea, so there's that.
 
2012-12-23 12:04:45 AM  

Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


It's hilarious that you people out yourselves as so naive to believe that the entire military would use such weapons in their own neighborhoods. That's pretty much the dumbest argument you could make.
 
2012-12-23 12:31:03 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.

It's hilarious that you people out yourselves as so naive to believe that the entire military would use such weapons in their own neighborhoods. That's pretty much the dumbest argument you could make.


I tend to agree with you, but I am also uncomfortable relying on the good sense of humanity.  Also, it can get more complicated than that.  You use the term neighborhood, and it sounds reasonable, but remember we did have a civil war once.  People can get divided.  Or do things they regret later.
 
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