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(Salon)   Today's reason for the Sandy Hook shootings is *shakes Magic 8-ball* Jon Stewart   (salon.com) divider line 205
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2012-12-20 06:57:40 PM
Same guy also blamed Sandy on abortion rights in the US. This pic seems only appropriate:
 
politicalmadness.org 
 
and
 
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-20 08:13:50 PM
It's true. I saw Jon Stewart there with Adam Lanza and they were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.
 
2012-12-20 08:16:32 PM
*scans headline*

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-20 08:20:40 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: It's true. I saw Jon Stewart there with Adam Lanza and they were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.


And then they got ABORTIONS, didn't they?
 
2012-12-20 08:21:32 PM
Because secularism is basically synonymous with violence.
 
2012-12-20 08:21:53 PM
I...I am just out of adjectives that can sufficiently describe the magnitude of how douchy these fkn FOXtards have gotten
 
Guns have nothing to do with it.  It's a half-hour late-night show that comes on four days a week.
 
f*ck you, asshole.
 
2012-12-20 08:23:25 PM

ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: It's true. I saw Jon Stewart there with Adam Lanza and they were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.

And then they got ABORTIONS, didn't they?


No.  Meth-fueled gay sex, then abortions.
 
2012-12-20 08:29:02 PM
i45.tinypic.com
 
What's that Sweetness... you want me to shoot who?
 
2012-12-20 08:29:43 PM

Lionel Mandrake: No. Meth-fueled gay sex, then abortions.


And then they took away Christmas.
 
2012-12-20 08:36:22 PM
They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.
 
2012-12-20 08:49:27 PM

GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.


Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.
 
2012-12-20 08:52:40 PM

SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

 
Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.
 
This.
 
Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"
 
There will be something grand from him. I assure you.
 
2012-12-20 09:11:07 PM
You know that guy that so efficiently points out how we're lying skum? Yeah, the shootings are his fault!
 
Lying Republican Scum.
 
2012-12-20 09:16:31 PM
Stewart is part of "the cultural war against Jesus and Christmas" that helps "drive [God] out of our society, our of our schools and courts." 
 
If you are a Believer, God is omnipotent onmipresent and cannot be driven out of anywhere he wants to be, so the argument is either bogus or God choses to not be there.
 
If you are not a Believer, then the argument does not matter.
 
This guy is an embarrassment to Christianity.
 
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-20 09:21:50 PM

wambu: Stewart is part of "the cultural war against Jesus and Christmas" that helps "drive [God] out of our society, our of our schools and courts."

If you are a Believer, God is omnipotent onmipresent and cannot be driven out of anywhere he wants to be, so the argument is either bogus or God choses to not be there.

If you are not a Believer, then the argument does not matter.

This guy is an embarrassment to Christianity.

[i.imgur.com image 400x400]


THIS50
 
2012-12-20 09:23:44 PM

wambu: If you are a Believer, God is omnipotent onmipresent and cannot be driven out of anywhere he wants to be, so the argument is either bogus or God choses to not be there.


kunochan.com
 
2012-12-20 09:26:05 PM
An evangelical named "Joel Rosenberg"?  That's like a Muslim named "Israel Jewstein".
 
2012-12-20 09:32:11 PM

gilgigamesh: An evangelical named "Joel Rosenberg"?  That's like a Muslim named "Israel Jewstein".


So my sessions with Imam Schlomo aren't legit?
 
2012-12-20 09:33:16 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.

This.

Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"

There will be something grand from him. I assure you.


Indeed.  I predict a new expedition to Mount Bullsh*t.
 
2012-12-20 09:35:37 PM
Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention
 
Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people
 
2012-12-20 09:41:08 PM

BSABSVR: Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


You forgot "People who believe the bullshiat on your other list."
 
2012-12-20 10:05:03 PM
I guess Jews were going to be inevitably blamed for the massacre.
 
2012-12-20 10:07:02 PM
"We are witnessing a horrifying explosion of murder."

And yet the murder rate has been steadily dropping for decades.
 
2012-12-20 10:08:30 PM
Do you know what would have prevented Sandy Hook?

Ice cream sandwiches.
 
2012-12-20 10:09:03 PM
I love how the Westboro Baptist Church message has gone mainstream in a less direct way. These people might as well start lining up at the funerals for the shooting with signs that read "God hates secularism."
 
2012-12-20 10:10:30 PM

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


If you had a link for each one of those........i would......most definitely be copy-pastaing that all over the internet.
 
2012-12-20 10:13:16 PM
So the shooting is because of people taking Jesus out of schools? And by "people" you mean Jews? This is bound to end well.
 
2012-12-20 10:14:27 PM
Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.
 
2012-12-20 10:15:10 PM
Won't someone think of Santa?
 
2012-12-20 10:16:54 PM

gilgigamesh: An evangelical named "Joel Rosenberg"?  That's like a Muslim named "Israel Jewstein".


Hysterical. Something very odd about a guy names Joel Rosenberg defending Jesus.
 
2012-12-20 10:18:33 PM
Well if only there was a solution for people like Jon Stewart. Some sort of permanent solution.

/you knew this was coming.
 
2012-12-20 10:19:10 PM

beta_plus: Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.


My dad was Irish but it never stopped me from refusing to hire the clover-eating bastards. Good to know that I'm in the clear.
 
2012-12-20 10:19:37 PM
pffft, I've been blaming the Jews for years.
 
2012-12-20 10:24:05 PM

wambu:

This guy is an embarrassment to Christianity.


That sentence is redundant.

Religious adherents should be ridiculed and made fun of at every turn for their superstitious mumbo-jumbo, and for enabling and empowering other more violent delusional nitwits.
 
2012-12-20 10:27:28 PM
Stewart is part of "the cultural war against Jesus and Christmas"

Well, he is Jewish after all.
 
2012-12-20 10:28:36 PM
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-20 10:31:41 PM
This is Stewart's fault as well as Colbert's, because every time they go on break some unbelievable shiat happens.
 
2012-12-20 10:32:24 PM
www.moneyandshit.com
/oblig
 
2012-12-20 10:32:24 PM
So this guy worship the sociopathic God who thinks that a score of dead grammar schoolers is the best way to send a message.
 
2012-12-20 10:32:45 PM

Sm3agol85: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
...
Too many womenfolk in schools.
...

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

If you had a link for each one of those........i would......most definitely be copy-pastaing that all over the internet.


There's that one at least. To quote: "It is curious that the modern rampage shootings started around the time that the best and brightest decided that the big youth problem was the education of girls"
 
2012-12-20 10:33:10 PM
Some one needs an attention hug, yes he does yes he does

awww come over here sit on my lap,

I know it cant feel good knowing your ridged ideology is falling out of favor and generally people are getting tired of the hate you and your friends sell. I know it's tempting to roll in the blood of children to sell another book but darling, if people don't like you you can't make them like you by picking on the cool kids.

So you play nice.
 
2012-12-20 10:33:29 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: It's true. I saw Jon Stewart there with Adam Lanza and they were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.


Look in the tunk.
 
2012-12-20 10:34:34 PM
What bothers me, as a person who lives by reason, is that these people, who codify guns as a virtue, ignore the culture that they have created is directly responsible for the violence we see today. It is truly sad that it takes a massacre for the opposite side to be able to even have a slight voice in this discussion.

/We don't need to outlaw guns.
//We need to just calm the fark down and act like responsible, reasonable adults in this discussion.
 
2012-12-20 10:35:49 PM
A crazy person got a hold of a military weapon. That's why this happened. Any other excuses are meant to distract us from that simple truth.
 
2012-12-20 10:36:00 PM

s2s2s2: This is Stewart's fault as well as Colbert's, because every time they go on break some unbelievable shiat happens.


I really do think both shows need to come up with a second string.
The weeks tht Jon's on vacation, they should just let the correspondents do a standup to clips of FoxNews on the green screen. They've got enough people to get a couple minutes out of each of them each night.
 
2012-12-20 10:38:49 PM

Sm3agol85: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

If you had a link for each one of those........i would......most definitely be copy-pastaing that all over the internet.


Well, Virginia Tech was the fault of our own government. That undesirable piece of shiat was adjudicated as being nuts by a judge, but FEDERAL PRIVACY LAWS prevented that from being accessed during the NCIC check by the gun dealer.
 
2012-12-20 10:40:01 PM
theinsanityreport.com
 
2012-12-20 10:41:06 PM

GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.


That's what I was thinking. How courageous and bootstrappy of this guy, to make these comments when they know Stewart won't be on the air for a couple of weeks.
 
2012-12-20 10:41:49 PM
Wow. Just wow.

Can I throw it out there that Protestant Christianity leads to rape, mass shootings and serial killings, because the perpetrators think they're justified and good with Jesus? Faith is, after all, a get-out-of-Hell free card.

\look up the BTK guy
 
2012-12-20 10:43:18 PM

Sm3agol85: If you had a link for each one of those........i would......most definitely be copy-pastaing that all over the internet.


Almost all of them come from articles that have been on FARK in the last few days. Sadly, that list isn't made up.
 
2012-12-20 10:45:47 PM
Ahh, conservatives... bask in the glow of what you have wrought and continue in the most urgent manner of conviction. Your principles are at stake, not to mention the notion of the country that you imagine! Onward, brave patriot Christian soldier!
 
2012-12-20 10:49:29 PM

beta_plus: Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.


And homophobes tap dance their way to butt sex in bathrooms. Self loathing isn't all that uncommon, and comes from living with an ideology that generally despises you at the very core.

Like Republicans.
 
2012-12-20 10:50:03 PM
Of course he said this while the Daily Show is on a holiday break. Not a coincidence. What a brave guy.
 
2012-12-20 10:50:34 PM

MayoSlather: Because secularism is basically synonymous with violence.


Historically there is a pretty good correlation between anti-theist movements and violence. Of course that violence comes from churches putting down the heretics, but that is besides the point.
 
2012-12-20 10:54:13 PM
It's always someone else's fault, isn't it?  It's not failed gun policies or a crumbling mental health care system, it's women or Jon Stewart or Saw IV or kids who play Call of Duty.

I don't like guns.  They scare the shiat out of me, and I'd be scared to sleep with one in my house.  Guns however, are not the complete problem.  It's the people who get their hands on them and what they do with them.  If mentally disturbed people are shooting up schools, rather than screaming "BAN ALL THE GUNS!!!1111!!" at the top of your lungs, how about we do more to help the mentally disabled so they don't get their hands on an AR-15 and kill 20 kids?

I don't think people should be able to own guns like that anyway, because I can't see what legitimate purpose they serve, even for hunting.  Do you need to hit a deer with that many rounds?  It's a deer, not a coked-up grizzly bear.
 
2012-12-20 10:55:48 PM

beta_plus: Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.


Says the guy who cheered when Rep Giffords was shot.
 
2012-12-20 10:55:48 PM
 
2012-12-20 10:56:08 PM
Right wingers: retards, psychos, or just noisy spoiled man-children?
 
2012-12-20 10:57:10 PM
When "they" begin to take god out of your churches then you have an issue, until then STFU.
 
2012-12-20 10:57:14 PM
"[m]illions of Muslims around the world are convinced their messiah-known as 'the Twelfth Imam'-has just arrived on earth."

Penalty, offense, too many Imams on the Earth. Five yard penalty, remains first down.
 
2012-12-20 10:59:38 PM
These people should be glad that I am not a) insane, and b) don't own a gun.
 
2012-12-20 11:03:06 PM
"But what are we reaping as a result of a society that increasingly ignores God and hates or dismisses Jesus Christ?" Rosenberg writes. "We are witnessing a horrifying explosion of murder. We are witnessing a gruesome crime wave unprecedented in American history. And there appears to be no end in sight."

So basically God is that kid from "The Twilight Zone". If we're not constantly paying attention to Him, and praising Him, he'll mess us up. Sounds like a kind and loving God.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-20 11:03:16 PM
So its no longer video games and the lack of he-men at Sandy Hook.

Now it's Jon Stewart's fault.

Well, for the next 20 minutes or so anywyas.

I wonder who's fault it will be tomorrow. My guess is Sebastian the Crab.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-20 11:03:40 PM

crazyeddie: Things that cause gun violence, according to the GOP:
Educating Women
The 1968 Democratic Convention
Jon Stewart
Not enough guns
Video Games
Not enough guns in school
Not enough Masculine Teachers or Custodians
Atheism

Here's what I have so far...could use some help.


Black People
Brown People
Red People
Yellow People
The Irish
The Italians
Poor People
White Liberals
Other Groups That Aren't WASP Republicans
 
2012-12-20 11:04:39 PM

emotion_lotion: When "they" begin to take god out of your churches then you have an issue, until then STFU.


On it.

adeaconswife.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-20 11:04:56 PM

doglover:
Black People
Brown People
Red People
Yellow People
The Irish
The Italians
Poor People
White Liberals
Other Groups That Aren't WASP Republicans


Yes yes, but I need citations, sir.
 
2012-12-20 11:06:30 PM
Does the reality that crime is going down not mean anything to these people? Globally things are better than they have ever been before. The media reports everything bad, making things seem worse. Now there isn't enough crime in the US to sate are need for bad news, so we get to hear about bad things all around the world. We're more informed about rape in India and the Middle East than any previous generation of American.
 
2012-12-20 11:08:01 PM
ok, let's take this challenge. everyone, everywhere convert to Christianity. Go to church every Sunday. Then the next time someone, anyone, anywhere gets killed by firearms then we can finally say that Christianity is full of shiat and then go about our business.

best part... forever!
 
2012-12-20 11:10:40 PM
Joel Rosenberg is a jackass. I will now turn off my computer and resume my studies toward a conversion to atheism sometime in late spring.

Gotta lotta readin' to do.
 
2012-12-20 11:11:15 PM

beta_plus: Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.


Is he not allowed to hate his father as well?
 
2012-12-20 11:12:05 PM

partisan222: ok, let's take this challenge. everyone, everywhere convert to Christianity. Go to church every Sunday. Then the next time someone, anyone, anywhere gets killed by firearms then we can finally say that Christianity is full of shiat and then go about our business.

best part... forever!


We can say that already, at least when it comes to the way it is practiced in this country.
 
2012-12-20 11:12:18 PM
 
2012-12-20 11:12:19 PM

partisan222: ok, let's take this challenge. everyone, everywhere convert to Christianity. Go to church every Sunday. Then the next time someone, anyone, anywhere gets killed by firearms then we can finally say that Christianity is full of shiat and then go about our business.

best part... forever!


nope, then everyone would just have to pray harder and/or give more at the donation plate. it's a pretty impeccable system
 
2012-12-20 11:12:56 PM

crazyeddie: doglover:
Black People
Brown People
Red People
Yellow People
The Irish
The Italians
Poor People
White Liberals
Other Groups That Aren't WASP Republicans

Yes yes, but I need citations, sir.


And I want a BJ from Megan Fox.

I'm sure we'll both get what we want. Right? Right?
 
2012-12-20 11:13:29 PM
Who are you going to blame next, Tim Minchin?
 
2012-12-20 11:13:31 PM

wambu: Stewart is part of "the cultural war against Jesus and Christmas" that helps "drive [God] out of our society, our of our schools and courts."

If you are a Believer, God is omnipotent onmipresent and cannot be driven out of anywhere he wants to be, so the argument is either bogus or God choses to not be there.

If you are not a Believer, then the argument does not matter.

This guy is an embarrassment to Christianity.

[i.imgur.com image 400x400]


You know, if the god you're worshiping:

1) Wants you to consider a seasonal greeting an act of war
2) Uses rapist to create life
3) Is so petty that simply praying silently in schools rather than having the administration lead the entire school in prayer means that he is good with a crazy gunning down small children

Maybe, just maybe, you're not worshiping a god at all. Maybe you're worshiping the adversary of God.
 
2012-12-20 11:15:48 PM

ordinarysteve: [www.moneyandshiat.com image 533x800]
/oblig


Leaving happy.
 
2012-12-20 11:17:14 PM

DeaH: Maybe, just maybe, you're not worshiping a god at all. Maybe you're worshiping the adversary of God.


Or maybe you're just mentally masturbating because there's no one at the other end of your prayer.

Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.
 
2012-12-20 11:18:45 PM
This makes about as much sense as people blaming the Loughner shooting on Sarah Palin.
 
2012-12-20 11:20:00 PM

ox45tallboy: DeaH: Maybe, just maybe, you're not worshiping a god at all. Maybe you're worshiping the adversary of God.

Or maybe you're just mentally masturbating because there's no one at the other end of your prayer.

Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.




A-farking-men.
 
2012-12-20 11:21:32 PM

ox45tallboy: DeaH: Maybe, just maybe, you're not worshiping a god at all. Maybe you're worshiping the adversary of God.

Or maybe you're just mentally masturbating because there's no one at the other end of your prayer.

Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.


The whole idea of a vengeful god who punishes sinners with fire and brimstone goes completely contrary of what Jesus taught in the gospels.

But then, hardcore Christians seem to only read the verses of the bible that push their own personal agenda and forget about those pesky chapters in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
 
2012-12-20 11:26:27 PM

ox45tallboy:
Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.


Would you accept a god that would kill 42 children because they mock a bald man? Because we have one of those laying about. In fact, 42% of people in the US believe that this particular god created humans in their current form less than 10,000 years ago.

Congratulations, you are surrounded by religious idiots, and they will actively refuse to listen to reason.
 
2012-12-20 11:28:33 PM

beta_plus: Sorry libs, old Joel's dad was an Orthodox Jew. Any anti-semite remarks are invalid.



Unless his mom was Jewish, it doesn't count.

/why the fark am i trying to reason with a yellow 3 epsilon-minus who cheers when democrats are shot?
 
2012-12-20 11:28:57 PM

doglover: crazyeddie: Things that cause gun violence, according to the GOP:
Educating Women
The 1968 Democratic Convention
Jon Stewart
Not enough guns
Video Games
Not enough guns in school
Not enough Masculine Teachers or Custodians
Atheism

Here's what I have so far...could use some help.

Black People
Brown People
Red People
Yellow People
The Irish
The Italians
Poor People
White Liberals
Other Groups That Aren't WASP Republicans


Feminism
 
2012-12-20 11:30:01 PM
The overwelming biggest single factor in the shootings was that the killer was a crazy mentally ill personwho should have been under strict supervision by mental health professionals.
 
2012-12-20 11:30:07 PM

crazyeddie: ox45tallboy:
Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.

Would you accept a god that would kill 42 children because they mock a bald man? Because we have one of those laying about. In fact, 42% of people in the US believe that this particular god created humans in their current form less than 10,000 years ago.

Congratulations, you are surrounded by religious idiots, and they will actively refuse to listen to reason.


God doesn't kill children. farkin' bears kill children.

Colbert was right.
 
2012-12-20 11:34:00 PM

doglover:
Colbert was right.


I forgot that you were a christain apologist who can't admit to himself his reasons for believing. Just put me on ignore if you can't handle hearing nasty facts about your superstition, rather than being passive aggressive. kthxbye

To everyone else, are there any other links we can add to the pile?
Things that cause gun violence, according to the GOP:
Educating Women
The 1968 Democratic Convention
Jon Stewart
Not enough guns or
Not enough combat-ready teachers
Video Games
Not enough guns in school
Not enough Masculine Teachers or Custodians
Atheism
Abortions
Removal of God and Prayer from Schools
Goths
 
2012-12-20 11:40:40 PM
I'll bet they were waiting for the right one to blame on Jon Stewart.
 
2012-12-20 11:44:09 PM
Let the Free Market fix it. George Soros needs to start a fund that buys up all the ammo in the USA and sells it overseas.
 
2012-12-20 11:45:03 PM

ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: It's true. I saw Jon Stewart there with Adam Lanza and they were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.

And then they got ABORTIONS, didn't they?


They didn't abort all the babies. They gave some of the babies to the Mexicans to use as anchors. I just don't get why, if those Mexicans can afford boats, why would they sneak in to take our less-than-minimum-wage jobs? Besides, I would think a baby wouldn't be very effective as an anchor, but if Fox News says that Mexicans use anchor babies, it must be true.
 
2012-12-20 11:46:10 PM
Jon Stewart is so right-wing that he actually wrote Mein Kampf.
No, really. It's a fun fact.
 
2012-12-20 11:51:04 PM
Rosenberg, who has previously linked Hurricane Sandy to abortion rights,

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-20 11:55:06 PM
Is there a list of all of the bullshiat arguments and fallacies that get trotted out from the pro gun crowd. I swear they turn the firehose up to 11. Rivaled only by the Ron Paulistanians. Hmm, is it the same subset?
 
2012-12-20 11:58:18 PM
FTA: In a blog post, Rosenberg cites the ongoing so-called War on Christmas, and how "We are, in many respects, in a moral and spiritual freefall in our country, and we are paying a terrible price."

Why is a guy named Rosenberg worried about Christmas?
 
2012-12-21 12:01:08 AM

Insatiable Jesus: FTA: In a blog post, Rosenberg cites the ongoing so-called War on Christmas, and how "We are, in many respects, in a moral and spiritual freefall in our country, and we are paying a terrible price."

Why is a guy named Rosenberg worried about Christmas?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-21 12:07:50 AM
Do these people ever cite any of the rewards bestowed upon us by God when we do good?
 
2012-12-21 12:11:14 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Why is a guy named Rosenberg worried about Christmas?


Seems Legit.

www.chillinpanda.com
 
2012-12-21 12:13:54 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Do these people ever cite any of the rewards bestowed upon us by God when we do good?


I think your username just answered your own question.

Basically, since bad sh*t keeps happening, it means that we've never been good enough, so apparently no one knows exactly what sorts of good things God will do if only we'll do exactly as the fundies say.

So what exactly caused hurricanes back when we were intolerant of homosexuality?
 
2012-12-21 12:14:39 AM

Lionel Mandrake: I...I am just out of adjectives that can sufficiently describe the magnitude of how douchy these fkn FOXtards have gotten
 
Guns have nothing to do with it.  It's a half-hour late-night show that comes on four days a week.
 
f*ck you, asshole.


Actually it's school yard bullying that is the real issue but nobody wants to talk about it because they would have to face the realization that their precious little snowflake isn't as innocent as they think

Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.
 
2012-12-21 12:19:58 AM
Jon Stewart forced me to have an abortion.

/That is all
 
2012-12-21 12:20:35 AM
from the wiki: Rosenberg was born in 1967 near Rochester, New York. His father had been raised in an Orthodox Jewish household and his mother was born into a Methodist family of English descent.[6][7] His parents were agnostic and became born-again Christians when he was a child, in 1973.[8] At the age of 17, he became a born-again Christian and now identifies as a Jewish believer in Jesus.
 
2012-12-21 12:21:16 AM

diaphoresis: Jon Stewart forced me to have an abortion. /That is all


Too bad he didn't force your mom to have one.
 
2012-12-21 12:26:04 AM

ox45tallboy: Insatiable Jesus: Do these people ever cite any of the rewards bestowed upon us by God when we do good?

I think your username just answered your own question.

Basically, since bad sh*t keeps happening, it means that we've never been good enough, so apparently no one knows exactly what sorts of good things God will do if only we'll do exactly as the fundies say.

So what exactly caused hurricanes back when we were intolerant of homosexuality?


I'm going with huge pressure differentials in the atmosphere, but if what these people seem to know about how God operates is true, it might be caused by any sort of nakedness.

Maybe there really is a secret Jewish cabal, elders who know the truth: that the Israelites didn't really dash all the babies heads on rocks in some town as commanded by God. But God knows the truth and he's been punishing us ever since. So until we kill off that civilization, we are all doomed to deadly weather, school massacres and the Kardashians. But it's been so long that nobody knows who the descendants of those people are, except that they are not Jewish. And the solution is to kill everybody else in the region until God is happy with us again.
 
2012-12-21 12:29:20 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Do these people ever cite any of the rewards bestowed upon us by God when we do good?


Well, if we did "good" there wouldn't be a Kenyan Muslin in the White House who's only there because he fixed a couple of elections. We are clearly falling short.
 
2012-12-21 12:29:29 AM

ox45tallboy: So what exactly caused hurricanes back when we were intolerant of homosexuality?


Why, only the greatest scapegoat ever invented.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-21 12:35:00 AM

Lionel Mandrake: diaphoresis: Jon Stewart forced me to have an abortion. /That is all

Too bad he didn't force your mom to have one.


He did, but you lived anyway.
 
2012-12-21 12:36:08 AM
God has a master plan here, just sit back and enjoy the ride
 
2012-12-21 12:40:30 AM

Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.


This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.
 
2012-12-21 12:43:41 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Maybe there really is a secret Jewish cabal, elders who know the truth: that the Israelites didn't really dash all the babies heads on rocks in some town as commanded by God. But God knows the truth and he's been punishing us ever since. So until we kill off that civilization, we are all doomed to deadly weather, school massacres and the Kardashians. But it's been so long that nobody knows who the descendants of those people are, except that they are not Jewish. And the solution is to kill everybody else in the region until God is happy with us again.


Okay, so... will killing off the gays help prevent the hurricanes or not? Or maybe its the gays who are the descendants of the babies whose heads didn't get bashed on the rocks. Or something.
 
2012-12-21 12:45:31 AM

ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.


It is temporary... until he ends his own life.

90+% of all life's problems are temporary.
78.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Both of these are true
 
2012-12-21 12:49:28 AM

ox45tallboy: Okay, so... will killing off the gays help prevent the hurricanes or not?


Look, whatever makes Pat Robertson and Zombie Falwell happy is fine with me.
 
2012-12-21 01:15:14 AM
These people are so intensely stupid that they do now have the capacity to even fathom that they may be morons. Anyone who does not have the capacity for truthful self-evaluation should be exterminated or made into slaves for the useful members of society.
 
2012-12-21 01:40:30 AM
FTA: "Rosenberg, who has previously linked Hurricane Sandy to abortion rights, is an evangelical who writes about End Times..."

and that was as far as I got: evangelical = functionally brain damaged
 
2012-12-21 01:53:20 AM
You know, if Jesus had been armed, those Jews wouldn't have been able to nail him up.

Just sayin'.
 
2012-12-21 02:09:19 AM

Lionel Mandrake: from the wiki: Rosenberg was born in 1967 near Rochester, New York. His father had been raised in an Orthodox Jewish household and his mother was born into a Methodist family of English descent.[6][7] His parents were agnostic and became born-again Christians when he was a child, in 1973.[8] At the age of 17, he became a born-again Christian and now identifies as a Jewish believer in Jesus.


Good lord, no wonder he's f*cked in the head.
 
2012-12-21 02:10:11 AM
Normally I am all for anything that blames Jon Stewart for anything,but....cmon.
 
2012-12-21 02:44:22 AM
We get it, he's Jewish

sorry if this has already been covered
 
2012-12-21 02:54:39 AM

whidbey: Look, whatever makes Pat Robertson and Zombie Falwell happy is fine with me.


Zombie Falwell doesn't scare me. If he's right about the existence of heaven and hell, then he's in hell now paying for his evil deeds perpetuated in the name of Christianity. But he's not evil enough to come back. For that you need Al Davis, who I'm not entirely convinced is not still out there eating the souls of children. When I heard he had died, I said, "How can they tell?".

blogimages.thescore.com
 
2012-12-21 02:56:00 AM

zerkalo: We get it, he's Jewish

sorry if this has already been covered


If you look at his bio, his father was Jewish. His mother was not. Under Jewish law and custom, you must be born from a Jewish mother to be considered Jewish.
 
2012-12-21 02:59:27 AM
Okay, Salon:
i48.photobucket.com

When you have to spend a paragraph explaining who the guy is, maybe it's best not to talk about him and let folks know of his whackjobbery.
 
2012-12-21 03:03:32 AM
Let's just go with the claims that sin and godlessness are responsible for all of the evils in the world for discussion's sake.

James 2:10 of the King James version of the bible states "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point of it has become accountable for all of it." This is commonly interpreted with other verses into the common phrase "all sins are created equal int he eyes of the Lord".

So let's just say, for sake of argument, that homosexuality is a sin (and let's just be clear that I do not believe it to be).

The rate of homosexuals in the Unites States is between 2 and 4% of the total population.

The rate of obesity in the United States is 35.7% of the total population.

Gluttony is according to Christian doctrine, not only clearly a sin, but one of the seven deadly sins.

If those morons are right, and all of these horrible things are happening because of sin, I've got news for them. It's a hell of a lot more likely to be the fault of the obese than the homosexuals. But let's say all the overweight people in the US don't have a single pound on them caused by overeating, they have zero complicity in their condition. Let's look at a few other sins.

Why don't we start with those who commit adultery, perhaps? Those rates are between 25 and 30% of the total population (depending on which study you go with) and actually higher in the evangelical population, just as are divorce rates.

How about lust? Sex surrounds us in our culture. Lust sells. It is a primary method of marketing. What percentage of adults do you think feel sexual attraction to someone other than their partner? That rate is virtually 100% of the population, including evangelicals. There is not a straight man on this earth who doesn't like to look at nice breasts or a pretty woman, or thought, in the common vernacular "dat ass!" from time to time.

Or lying. It has been studied extensively, and the old adage "everybody lies" holds true. And lying is actually named as one of the six things G-d "hates" in Proverbs 6:16-19. To quote: "There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers."

I don't know about you, but I don't see homosexuality anywhere on that list of things G-d hates. But I do see a condemnation of those who kill, lie, think more highly of themselves than others, manipulate, those who are eager to do harm to others, and those who, for lack of a better terminology, stir the pot. Sounds a hell of a lot more like Huckabee, Dobson, Robinson, and those Westboro Baptist Church assholes than homosexuals.

Bad things don't happen because we have angered a deity. Bad things happen because, as much as we would like to be able to, we cannot control all factors in life. There is no control. There is nothing but the illusion of control overlying a deep-seated chaos. Religion as espoused by these disrespectful, arrogant, judgmental and hateful bigots is in itself a force of evil. And to anybody who nods their heads in assent to what these weak, truly nasty people espouse, I truly hope their bible is correct, because it would soothe my soul to see them judged by their G-d when their curtain call comes.
 
2012-12-21 03:34:00 AM
There have been like 20 anti-god greenlights to about 1 mental health greenlight regarding the shooting
 
2012-12-21 03:53:51 AM
So, I've made it pretty clear that I personally run toward the permissive side of the spectrum on gun regulation, and I haven't been subtle about the fact that I think that people that suddenly magically care about homicides now that there's been a high profile one in the news, when they gave something less than a shiat before (despite the one incident not really altering the overall murder rate in the slightest) and want to address the problem only in the most superficial and least effective manner possible for PR purposes (federal AWB clone proposals) are not only bad policymakers, but bad people.

But... still, what the fark, dude. You don't counter stupid proposals by making equally stupid proposals in a different direction. Politics isn't an "add something dumb and right-wing to something dumb and left-wing and the dialogue is suddenly reasonable" game. You have to at least make some kind of goddamned effort to actually be reasonable. Obama has managed it, take your damned cues from him, at least on general approach if not substance.

//There are certainly aspects of gun control that would be beneficial. Closing the "private collector" loophole by not allowing you to use the term if you sell more than one or maybe two weapons a year would be a good plan, for instance. Restricting 30-round magazines to people licensed for full automatic, who are much more carefully licensed and tracked, is maybe not so effective but at least attacks the problem from a practical angle instead of an "I don't even know enough about guns to tell an assault rifle form a semi-automatic based on an assault rifle frame" perspective.

ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.


Personification for literary purposes is not the same thing as inanimate objects actually having agency. A car didn't run down your dead cousin, nor did a bottle of Jack, the responsibility lies with the drunk-ass idiot behind the wheel. Same applies to murderers with their weapons. Given that China had a spree knife attack like a week before our gun-related one, it's fairly clear that crazies gonna craze. We can take reasonable steps to try to cut them off, but the constitution means we pretty much have to attack the problem from a threat identification and neutralization perspective, not a trying to subvert the problem by nullifying a civil right perspective.

The bill of rights beats the popular vote even when the public is spending its annual 15 minutes pretending to care about human life before going back to cracking jokes about dudes hopped up on bath salts trying to eat people, basically.
 
2012-12-21 04:00:06 AM
Here's what I've got after some searching.  List is a little modified:


Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Teacher's Unions.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Too many children in schools.
Mental illness.
Autism / Asperger's Syndrome
Self-Esteem Movement
Goths
Video games.
Fisher Price Toys?!
Hollywood
The media!
LIBOR Scandal
Hunger Games
Jon Stewart.
The OBAMA Regime Brainwashed him!
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
The Theory of Evolution
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Not enough God in Schools

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/huckabee-schools-place -of- carnage-because-we-systematically

Not enough guns in schools

http://www.absolutesurvivalist.com/1/post/2012/12/im-a-dead-sandy- hook -teacher.html

Teacher's Unions

http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873:Blo gPost:2 364503&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

Not enough manly men in schools AND Too many womenfolk in schools

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335996/newtown-answers-n ro-symp osium#

Too many children in schools

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/the_strategic_concentration _of_ modern_children.html

Mental Illness AND Self-Esteem Movement

http://townhall.com/columnists/nealboortz/2012/12/18/newtown-conne ctic ut-there-is-no-why-n1469185/page/full/

Autism / Asperger's Syndrome

http://www.mediaite.com/print/fox-news-and-the-new-york-times-abet -med ia-effort-to-falsely-link-autism-with-ct-shooting/

Goths

http://www.thenation.com/article/171866/roots-rampage#

Video Games

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/12/18/ct-killings-reignite-debate -abo ut-violence-in-video-games/

Fisher Price Toys?! (Only Glen Beck could think this up)

http://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/280876630023475200/photo/1

Hollywood

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2012/12/17/newtown/

The media!

http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html

LIBOR Scandal AND Hunger Games

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/newtown-libor-hunger-ga mes- theories.php

Jon Stewart

http://www.salon.com/2012/12/19/right_wing_author_jon_stewart_part _of_ the_culture_that_led_to_shootings/

The OBAMA Regime Brainwashed him!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=367385

Abortion Pills

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/ex-snl-star-victori a-ja ckson-links-massacre-to-abortion/story-e6frfmqi-1226538010105

Gay Marriage

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/dobson-connecticut-shooting- was- god-allowing-judgment-fall-upon-us-turning-our-back-him

Atheists

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/newt-gingrich-sandy-hook- _n_2 330506.html

The Theory of Evolution

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/17/tennessee-pastor-mass-shooti ngs- because-schools-teach-evolution-and-how-to-be-a-homo/

The 1968 Democratic Convention

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41365_Right_Wing_Pro-Gun_E xcus e_of_the_Day-_Blame_the_1968_Democratic_Convention
 
2012-12-21 04:07:36 AM
Given that China had a spree knife attack like a week before our gun-related one, it's fairly clear that crazies gonna craze.

Just how many people died at that one again?
 
2012-12-21 04:11:41 AM

ATRDCI: Who are you going to blame next, Tim Minchin?


Only if he made a kid watch as their dad ate his own face meat
 
2012-12-21 04:21:13 AM

s2s2s2: This is Stewart's fault as well as Colbert's, because every time they go on break some unbelievable shiat happens.


I said this exact thing when I told my husband they were going on vacation until after New Year. I said, watch, some horrifying shiat is going to break out, it does every time, and he said they should be prevented from going on vacation. Never so sad to be right :(
 
2012-12-21 04:27:08 AM
Faaaaaaaaaaan-tastic.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-21 05:14:29 AM

BSABSVR: Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.


so we're now saying it's stupid to claim that mental illness plays a role in mass shootings?

so I guess poverty has nothing to do with crime either.
 
2012-12-21 05:37:36 AM
Why do people shake magic 8 balls when the instructions say specifically not to do that?

/its as if humans just ignore the rules...
 
2012-12-21 07:08:08 AM

Whistling Kitty Chaser: I love how the Westboro Baptist Church message has gone mainstream in a less direct way. These people might as well start lining up at the funerals for the shooting with signs that read "God hates secularism."


Maybe God hates children.
 
2012-12-21 07:34:48 AM

gilgigamesh: An evangelical named "Joel Rosenberg"?  That's like a Muslim named "Israel Jewstein".


Why is that surprising. I once knew a black Southern Baptist named Quincy Wiesenthal.
 
2012-12-21 07:59:39 AM
I don't see what Jon Leibowitz has to do with Sandy Hook.
 
2012-12-21 08:14:56 AM
I blame God.
wh40k.lexicanum.com
 
2012-12-21 08:15:28 AM

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


You forgot "Not enough male janitors with buckets"
 
2012-12-21 08:23:17 AM

Lansydyr: Here's what I've got after some searching


You're good. I like you.
 
2012-12-21 08:24:33 AM

Free Radical: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

You forgot "Not enough male janitors with buckets"


And that America's twelve year old boys aren't husky enough to stop adults on shooting rampages.
 
2012-12-21 08:32:41 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-21 08:55:43 AM
Now it's just silly.
 
2012-12-21 08:58:54 AM

Gergesa: Well if only there was a solution for people like Jon Stewart. Some sort of permanent solution.

/you knew this was coming.


That doesn't mean I was looking forward to it.
 
2012-12-21 08:59:49 AM

trivial use of my dark powers: Now it's just silly.


I was going to go with "stupid"
 
2012-12-21 09:04:43 AM
Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the people who deemed Sandy Hook as a "gun free zone" and then didn't stick around and make it their responsibility to secure the school themselves. We need to put the infantile leftist thought process on trial and then give it a blindfold and a cigarette.
 
2012-12-21 09:06:37 AM

Stepqhen: ATRDCI: Who are you going to blame next, Tim Minchin?

Only if he made a kid watch as their dad ate his own face meat


Unless their dad is an occasional journaloust for the drive by lamestream media.

/this is my country, it's not perfect, but it's mine
 
2012-12-21 09:18:48 AM
Is Obama the 12th Imam or not? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
2012-12-21 09:19:21 AM
Let's put the blame where it belongs, folks:

On the idiot who brought a couple of guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo to a school, and used them to shoot children, teachers, and anyone else he thought was a target.

You can discuss what may have led him to do this ad nauseum, but let's face it - we almost skip over the shooters themselves in our rush to validate our societal biases. At the end of the day, it's the asshole who pulled the trigger over and over again that did the damage.
 
2012-12-21 09:22:32 AM

clintster: Same guy also blamed Sandy on abortion rights in the US. This pic seems only appropriate:
 
[politicalmadness.org image 480x360] 
 
and
 
[wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x500]



farm9.staticflickr.com

q/d Paint.  This should be the default, IMO.
 
2012-12-21 09:22:52 AM

FormlessOne: Let's put the blame where it belongs, folks:

On the idiot who brought a couple of guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo to a school, and used them to shoot children, teachers, and anyone else he thought was a target.

You can discuss what may have led him to do this ad nauseum, but let's face it - we almost skip over the shooters themselves in our rush to validate our societal biases. At the end of the day, it's the asshole who pulled the trigger over and over again that did the damage.


Unfortunately he is dead so we can't question him, slowly, with power tools.
 
2012-12-21 09:25:27 AM

Lansydyr: Here's what I've got after some searching.  List is a little modified:


Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Teacher's Unions.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Too many children in schools.
Mental illness.
Autism / Asperger's Syndrome
Self-Esteem Movement
Goths
Video games.
Fisher Price Toys?!
Hollywood
The media!
LIBOR Scandal
Hunger Games
Jon Stewart.
The OBAMA Regime Brainwashed him!
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
The Theory of Evolution
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Not enough God in Schools

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/huckabee-schools-place -of- carnage-because-we-systematically

Not enough guns in schools

http://www.absolutesurvivalist.com/1/post/2012/12/im-a-dead-sandy- hook -teacher.html

Teacher's Unions

http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873:Blo gPost:2 364503&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

Not enough manly men in schools AND Too many womenfolk in schools

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335996/newtown-answers-n ro-symp osium#

Too many children in schools

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/the_strategic_concentration _of_ modern_children.html

Mental Illness AND Self-Esteem Movement

http://townhall.com/columnists/nealboortz/2012/12/18/newtown-conne ctic ut-there-is-no-why-n1469185/page/full/

Autism / Asperger's Syndrome

http://www.mediaite.com/print/fox-news-and-the-new-york-times-abet -med ia-effort-to-falsely-link-autism-with-ct-shooting/

Goths

http://www.thenation.com/article/171866/roots-rampage#

Video Games

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/12/18/ct-killings-reignite-debate -abo ut-violence-in-video-games/

Fisher Price Toys?! (Only Glen Beck could think this up)

http://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/280876630023475200/photo/1

Hollywood

http://bl ...


I internet love you.
 
2012-12-21 09:32:53 AM

clintster: Same guy also blamed Sandy on abortion rights in the US. This pic seems only appropriate:

[politicalmadness.org image 480x360]

and

[wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x500]


Sounds reasonable to me. Why should it not be his fault? He's a pretentious douchebag.
 
2012-12-21 09:34:41 AM

GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.


No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.
 
2012-12-21 09:40:42 AM
It certainly can't have anything to do with the narcissistic world view of conservatives........in which ones personal needs are more important than anyone elses.
 
2012-12-21 09:53:23 AM

PonceAlyosha: Free Radical: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

You forgot "Not enough male janitors with buckets"

And that America's twelve year old boys aren't husky enough to stop adults on shooting rampages.


And Moo-chelle O'Bummer is trying to get our kids to eat broccoli so they'll be even less husky and less able to stop heavily armed, mentally ill grown men set on murder-suicide.  Sociallist.
 
2012-12-21 09:55:35 AM

Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.


Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?
 
2012-12-21 09:56:40 AM

redslippers: Let's just go with the claims that sin and godlessness are responsible for all of the evils in the world for discussion's sake.

James 2:10 of the King James version of the bible states "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point of it has become accountable for all of it." This is commonly interpreted with other verses into the common phrase "all sins are created equal int he eyes of the Lord".

So let's just say, for sake of argument, that homosexuality is a sin (and let's just be clear that I do not believe it to be).

The rate of homosexuals in the Unites States is between 2 and 4% of the total population.

The rate of obesity in the United States is 35.7% of the total population.

Gluttony is according to Christian doctrine, not only clearly a sin, but one of the seven deadly sins.

If those morons are right, and all of these horrible things are happening because of sin, I've got news for them. It's a hell of a lot more likely to be the fault of the obese than the homosexuals. But let's say all the overweight people in the US don't have a single pound on them caused by overeating, they have zero complicity in their condition. Let's look at a few other sins.

Why don't we start with those who commit adultery, perhaps? Those rates are between 25 and 30% of the total population (depending on which study you go with) and actually higher in the evangelical population, just as are divorce rates.

How about lust? Sex surrounds us in our culture. Lust sells. It is a primary method of marketing. What percentage of adults do you think feel sexual attraction to someone other than their partner? That rate is virtually 100% of the population, including evangelicals. There is not a straight man on this earth who doesn't like to look at nice breasts or a pretty woman, or thought, in the common vernacular "dat ass!" from time to time.

Or lying. It has been studied extensively, and the old adage "everybody lies" holds true. And lying is actually named as one of the ...


Actually, that brings up something that i think is important. I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.
 
2012-12-21 10:06:16 AM

greenboy: I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.


Why stop there? Break out the "God hates wrath" and "God hates pride" signs while you're at it. Throw in a "God hates sloth" for any of them that brought chairs to sit on.
 
2012-12-21 10:06:58 AM

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


you guys are leaving off one.
Marylin Manson.
 
2012-12-21 10:14:08 AM

Teufelaffe: greenboy: I would love to picket a WBC picket with signs that say God hates gluttony and stand right next to the WBC member who might be even the least bit obese.

Why stop there? Break out the "God hates wrath" and "God hates pride" signs while you're at it. Throw in a "God hates sloth" for any of them that brought chairs to sit on.


Even more so, show Phelps' finances with god hates greed. Show it with the fact the WBC sues people for money, not to make a point.
 
2012-12-21 10:15:48 AM
But I thought Green Lanterns stopped things like gun violence.
 
2012-12-21 10:17:50 AM

crazyeddie: Things that cause gun violence, according to the GOP:
Educating Women
The 1968 Democratic Convention
Jon Stewart
Not enough guns
Video Games
Not enough guns in school
Not enough Masculine Teachers or Custodians
Atheism

Here's what I have so far...could use some help.


*sigh* Everybody knows the reason those kids were killed is because of Christianity. Jesus called them to his side so he could make some heavenly pedo porn, because he loves to fark the little children.
 
2012-12-21 10:19:16 AM

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?
 
2012-12-21 10:29:13 AM

BSABSVR: Mental illness.


I think this one needs to be more politicized, frankly.
 
2012-12-21 10:37:59 AM
I thought jews just ate children, learn something new everyday.
 
2012-12-21 10:53:48 AM

Coco LaFemme: I don't think people should be able to own guns like that anyway, because I can't see what legitimate purpose they serve, even for hunting.  Do you need to hit a deer with that many rounds?  It's a deer, not a coked-up grizzly bear.


The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression. Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.


We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

TLDR, The second amendment is still necessary.
 
2012-12-21 11:00:06 AM

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


I'll bet Tucker Carlson does.
 
2012-12-21 11:00:40 AM
prophet

prophet (pròf´ît) noun
1.A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
2.A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
3.A predictor; a soothsayer.
4.The chief spokesperson of a movement or cause.
5. Prophets (used with a sing. or pl. verb). Bible. The second of the three divisions of the Hebrew Scriptures, comprising the books of Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the Twelve.


imageshack.us

Fox News is chock full of Prophets.
 
2012-12-21 11:05:59 AM

starsrift: Okay, Salon:
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When you have to spend a paragraph explaining who the guy is, maybe it's best not to talk about him and let folks know of his whackjobbery.



So the way to stop the fringe elements in the media and in society is for those who disagree to just ignore them, right?

If that's true, then how do these people gain followings before I hear about them?  Or is it more true that they have their own promotional methods and reach, and that they will exist whether or not I choose to ignore what makes me uncomfortable?
 
2012-12-21 11:06:16 AM

Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.
 
Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.
 
This.
 
Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"
 
There will be something grand from him. I assure you.


Go Fark yourself! Go Fark yourself!

It was then I found out that I like gospel because of the way it sounds, not the content.

/at least for sure. I mean, I love those old sing-alongs that the African slaves made for while one was working. Some mention the Lord, some don't.
But how often do you get to hear gospel music with 'the gospel' taken out?
//all folk music is like that btw. The Blues, delta blues, Bluegrass, etc.
 
2012-12-21 11:11:31 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Coco LaFemme: I don't think people should be able to own guns like that anyway, because I can't see what legitimate purpose they serve, even for hunting.  Do you need to hit a deer with that many rounds?  It's a deer, not a coked-up grizzly bear.

The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.


i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-21 11:12:39 AM

Car_Ramrod: "[m]illions of Muslims around the world are convinced their messiah-known as 'the Twelfth Imam'-has just arrived on earth."

Penalty, offense, too many Imams on the Earth. Five yard penalty, remains first down.


Lulz
 
2012-12-21 11:14:17 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.


So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.
 
2012-12-21 11:16:24 AM

rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.


Yet...
 
2012-12-21 11:16:41 AM
So how many of y'all motherfarkers who require 100% scientific proof that gun control works to eliminate 100% of gun problems also believe our other laws should be based on some 2,000 year old superstitious argle bargle about invisible sky-daddies?
 
2012-12-21 11:17:29 AM

rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.


Presidentin' while black? I'm sure that's what he's referring to when he thinks of tyranny.
 
2012-12-21 11:23:47 AM

furiousxgeorge: God Can't Be Kept Out


That was pretty good.
I do wish some of my more religiously zealous friends would remember these things.


I think I'll send them a link.

/agnostic polytheist animist looney-tuney fresh & fruity myself. You are what you eat. God is a chef's salad.
 
2012-12-21 11:35:21 AM

TheMysticS: Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.

This.

Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"

There will be something grand from him. I assure you.

Go Fark yourself! Go Fark yourself!

It was then I found out that I like gospel because of the way it sounds, not the content.

/at least for sure. I mean, I love those old sing-alongs that the African slaves made for while one was working. Some mention the Lord, some don't.
But how often do you get to hear gospel music with 'the gospel' taken out?
//all folk music is like that btw. The Blues, delta blues, Bluegrass, etc.


To be honest, I like Clementine much better if you change up the sound
 
2012-12-21 11:47:40 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.


If we reach a point where we need to physically defend ourselves from oppression by our own government, these are the tools that will be used by the oppressors:

static.ddmcdn.com
www.allamericanpatriots.com
www.wallpapergate.com

Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.
 
2012-12-21 11:47:56 AM
Dear Jesus:

It seems that countries that are far more secular, and far more politically liberal than the US, have much fewer incidents of mass killings. Heck, 99% of the population in Japan doesn't believe in you at all, and they've had none.
Why are you being so nice to them, and so mean to us? Is this some kind of jilted lover thing?

Confused:
Dforkus
 
2012-12-21 12:05:34 PM

ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.


Ouch.
:'(
That makes my heart hurt.
 
2012-12-21 12:09:01 PM

diaphoresis: ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.

It is temporary... until he ends his own life.

90+% of all life's problems are temporary.
78.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Both of these are true


What of life's problems are not temporary? That 10%, what is that?
 
2012-12-21 12:11:03 PM

Gen. Patton Harvey Oswalt: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?


I'm managing the LOTCATGOPATA.  I keep it in my Profile.  That keeps me busy enough.
 
2012-12-21 12:39:25 PM

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


Can I swipe this and post it to Facebook? If so, do you want credit?
 
2012-12-21 12:46:19 PM

Teufelaffe: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The second amendment is not for hunting deer, it is for the ability to defend oneself against oppression.

If we reach a point where we need to physically defend ourselves from oppression by our own government, these are the tools that will be used by the oppressors:

[static.ddmcdn.com image 400x318]
[www.allamericanpatriots.com image 500x356]
[www.wallpapergate.com image 800x638]

Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


No, not if we form a regular army or militia and stand out in the open or hunker down in easily identified groups. We would get our ass shot off. On the other hand if we adopted assassination (which small arms are great for), IEDs, destruction of infrastructure, and insurgent tactics do you really believe the US government even with all it's sophisticated toys could manage to maintain order and rule a country as large and diverse as ours?

Hell we could not even control Afghanistan and Iraq with populations that were dirt poor, and clearly different then our own forces. With a highly educated rich populace that can easily blend in, infiltrate, and demolish your communications networks, supply networks, infrastructure and can carry out assassination of key targets there is no way the US military could successfully stop the overthrow of the government through an insurgency that had the support of the people. The only way to stop it would be to become a Hitler or Stalin and execute about 3 out of every 5 people.

So, yeah buying firearms that have high capacity magazines does make sense if you are planning for a popular uprising that has support of we the people.
 
2012-12-21 12:58:01 PM

Karac: s2s2s2: This is Stewart's fault as well as Colbert's, because every time they go on break some unbelievable shiat happens.

I really do think both shows need to come up with a second string.
The weeks tht Jon's on vacation, they should just let the correspondents do a standup to clips of FoxNews on the green screen. They've got enough people to get a couple minutes out of each of them each night.


silvervial: I said this exact thing when I told my husband they were going on vacation until after New Year. I said, watch, some horrifying shiat is going to break out, it does every time, and he said they should be prevented from going on vacation. Never so sad to be right :(


Remember when the Tunisia and Egypt revolts (Arab Spring) happened while Stewart and Colbert were on vacation? The next Monday, Asif Mandvi (IIRC) was shown against a backdrop of a nice, calm Cairo, Egypt, and Stewart remarked at how calm it was over there, and Mandvi said that there was a lot of excitement and news going on "last week, Jon! Last week!!"
 
2012-12-21 01:18:18 PM

doglover: crazyeddie: ox45tallboy:
Any god that would kill children because adults aren't praying enough is not worthy of my worship.

Would you accept a god that would kill 42 children because they mock a bald man? Because we have one of those laying about. In fact, 42% of people in the US believe that this particular god created humans in their current form less than 10,000 years ago.

Congratulations, you are surrounded by religious idiots, and they will actively refuse to listen to reason.

God doesn't kill children. farkin' bears kill children.

Colbert was right.


And who, praytell, called on those bears, hmm? I'll give you a hint: three letters, starts with g, ends with d, rhymes (and probably synonymous with) "clod".
 
2012-12-21 01:32:39 PM

greenboy: God hates sloth


God hate Sloth?

img1.etsystatic.com
 
2012-12-21 02:10:00 PM

Slaves2Darkness: But I thought Green Lanterns stopped things like gun violence.


Hard light constructs my friend.
 
2012-12-21 03:51:55 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.


You're full of shiat. Most of those 200+year-old offenses aren't happening today. And as to your contention that our populace is one "that has some capacity to resist" is ludicrous. Are a few rifles, assault or otherwise, going to deter the Fed from using fighters, bombers, cruise missiles, mortars, artillery, tanks, etc. against its own people? Of course not, because the troops expected to fight are the people they're supposed to kill! Can you expect a platoon from KS or NC or ND or CA to bomb their own families or friends? Can you even imagine their officers issuing those orders?

If and when the Fed takes over, it will be though legal, commercial and espionage means. Patriot Act,

The 2nd Amendment is outdated. We can't stop our Federal government if they press the point violently. But we still have a civilian government, as opposed to a military government, so a violent move isn't going to be part of the Fed takingover. As lame as it is, the Fourth Estate is our best guard against oppression. They were the ones who brought down Nixon and gave Reagan and Clinton a monumental pile of shiat.
 
2012-12-21 04:32:36 PM

Granny_Panties: Do you know what would have prevented Sandy Hook?

Ice cream sandwiches.


If Adam Lanza had tried suicide/murder instead of murder/suicide things would have worked out better.
 
2012-12-21 05:14:51 PM

Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


The thing about this line of thought that really makes my head asplode is that these people are also perfectly convinced that the government  can take their guns from them, unless the NRA fervently lobbies congress to stop that from happening.

So, on the one hand, guns prevent tyranny but, on the other hand, you need constant lobbying to prevent the government from confiscating all your weapons so that you can... prevent tyranny?
 
2012-12-21 06:15:52 PM

TheMysticS: diaphoresis: ox45tallboy: Warlordtrooper: Guns do not cause people to be mentally scarred for life.

This came from another thread, it's not mine, but I think it appropriate here...

There's a Dad that just spent two hours staring at a bicycle he won't be putting together that might disagree with you.

It is temporary... until he ends his own life.

90+% of all life's problems are temporary.
78.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Both of these are true

What of life's problems are not temporary? That 10%, what is that?


heat death of the universe. It's a big event, so it gets a lot of percents.
 
2012-12-21 06:23:50 PM

greenboy: rufus-t-firefly: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Here's a list of the reasons why the people who created this country decided to shoot redcoats..

...

We, in our present time, cannot yet check off all of these items, but we do seem to be heading in that direction. History repeats itself, and having a populace that has some capacity to resist is the only solution as long as people remain as apathetic as they are today.

So how many of those items can we check off? I haven't seen any "Indian Savages" attacking nearby settlements.

Yet...


Yet? Please! They've long since figured out all they have to do is put up neon lights and the nearby settlements come give them everything they want.
 
2012-12-21 06:43:00 PM

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


Not really, but the libbies actually believe he's Walter Cronkite.
 
2012-12-21 07:35:43 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.

The thing about this line of thought that really makes my head asplode is that these people are also perfectly convinced that the government  can take their guns from them, unless the NRA fervently lobbies congress to stop that from happening.

So, on the one hand, guns prevent tyranny but, on the other hand, you need constant lobbying to prevent the government from confiscating all your weapons so that you can... prevent tyranny?


I've also noticed that these are the same people who are terrified that our government will institute Martial Law, but are now saying that we need armed guards in our schools.
 
2012-12-21 07:57:54 PM

Tumunga: Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?

Not really, but the libbies actually believe he's Walter Cronkite.


Libby here. No, I don't think he's Cronkite. If Cronkite were alive he'd destroy these asswipes with much more journalistic acuity than Stewart wish he had. But Stewart is doing it for laughs, not journalism, and that's a big difference.
 
2012-12-21 08:05:17 PM

GoldSpider: Tumunga: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

No matter how much you suckle up to the man's tangy nad essence, he's still not going to go out with you.

Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?


I remember that shiatstain Rick Santelli chickened out on going to his show.
 
2012-12-21 09:58:36 PM
"God" is under-whelming if it can be removed from anything.
 
2012-12-21 11:44:56 PM

mrshowrules: Gen. Patton Harvey Oswalt: BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence and therefore should be politicized:
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.
The 1968 Democratic Convention

Things that don't cause violence and thus cannot be discussed at the moment:
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

Here's some more links. Who's managing the list, like the LOTCATGOPATA?

I'm managing the LOTCATGOPATA.  I keep it in my Profile.  That keeps me busy enough.


I have most of the quotes already saved to a document, I can put it in my profile like you do with the LOTCATGOPATA.
Working on it right now
 
2012-12-22 12:56:57 AM

Teufelaffe: I've also noticed that these are the same people who are terrified that our government will institute Martial Law, but are now saying that we need armed guards in our schools.


Well, Fox News and the NRA said this was a good idea, so there's that.
 
2012-12-23 12:04:45 AM

Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.


It's hilarious that you people out yourselves as so naive to believe that the entire military would use such weapons in their own neighborhoods. That's pretty much the dumbest argument you could make.
 
2012-12-23 12:31:03 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.

It's hilarious that you people out yourselves as so naive to believe that the entire military would use such weapons in their own neighborhoods. That's pretty much the dumbest argument you could make.


I tend to agree with you, but I am also uncomfortable relying on the good sense of humanity.  Also, it can get more complicated than that.  You use the term neighborhood, and it sounds reasonable, but remember we did have a civil war once.  People can get divided.  Or do things they regret later.
 
2012-12-23 12:33:57 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Teufelaffe: Do you honestly believe that even if every single civilian in the country was armed that they would have any chance whatsoever at "defending themselves from oppression"?
Sure, "we need arms to defend ourselves from oppression" makes for a nice ideal, but we've gone way beyond that being something that's possible. We have standing armies to defend us from external oppression, but we're farked if the government decides to go totalitarian on us, and no amount of guns in the hands of the general populace is going to change that.

It's hilarious that you people out yourselves as so naive to believe that the entire military would use such weapons in their own neighborhoods. That's pretty much the dumbest argument you could make.


You're right, we've never had any point in the history of the US when our military turned its weapons on "their own neighborhoods"...oh wait, we did...it was called the Civil War. Perhaps you've heard of it? If our government were ever to reach a point where it was using our armed forces en masse against the civilian population, sure we'd have a fracture in the armed forces between those who would follow orders and those who wouldn't. However, armed civilians still wouldn't be worth anything other than fodder. You can't take down an Abrams or an A-10 with a farking AR-15, no matter how many times you've watched the Rambo movies. Should we ever have another civil war, civilians will simply be bystanders and casualties no matter how many guns they own.
 
2012-12-23 11:19:53 AM

Teufelaffe: You're right, we've never had any point in the history of the US when our military turned its weapons on "their own neighborhoods"...oh wait, we did...it was called the Civil War. Perhaps you've heard of it? If our government were ever to reach a point where it was using our armed forces en masse against the civilian population, sure we'd have a fracture in the armed forces between those who would follow orders and those who wouldn't. However, armed civilians still wouldn't be worth anything other than fodder. You can't take down an Abrams or an A-10 with a farking AR-15, no matter how many times you've watched the Rambo movies. Should we ever have another civil war, civilians will simply be bystanders and casualties no matter how many guns they own.


People also used to view each state as a sort of country, that's not quite the case anymore.
 
2012-12-23 06:41:10 PM

Aquapope: Tumunga: Do people really FEAR Jon Stewart?

Not really, but the libbies actually believe he's Walter Cronkite.

Libby here. No, I don't think he's Cronkite. If Cronkite were alive he'd destroy these asswipes with much more journalistic acuity than Stewart wish he had. But Stewart is doing it for laughs, not journalism, and that's a big difference.


You must be one of the reasonable libbies. The crazy ones residing in the Farkdom, don't believe what you believe.
 
2012-12-23 10:14:14 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: SilentStrider: GAT_00: They are very lucky TDS is on Christmas break or Stewart would biatchslap these people.

Once the show is back from break, I'd wager this is one of the first things that they discuss, after the shooting itself.

This.

Do you remember when Fox slammed him for something, and when he got back from a break he did a couple minute biatch-slapping monologue and finished up with a gospel choir that sang "Fark You?"

There will be something grand from him. I assure you.


True enough, but let's face it - Jon Stewart is preaching to the choir. Those he lampoons are not the sort of people who will ever tune in to his show to see it.
 
2012-12-24 03:47:33 AM

kg2095: True enough, but let's face it - Jon Stewart is preaching to the choir. Those he lampoons are not the sort of people who will ever tune in to his show to see it.


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They sure talk about him a lot. Then again, they also talk about "hip-hop" and "gangster rap", so there's that...
 
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