Martian_Astronomer: Why do you put "scientist" in quotations, subby?

Actually, I looked her up and I do take exception to the scare quotes.

Ann Gauger is a zoologist with a BS in biology from MIT and a 1989 PhD from the University of Washington. As a post-doctoral fellow at Harvard she cloned and characterized the Drosophila kinesin light chain. Her research has been published in Nature, Development, and the Journal of Biological Chemistry.

1. As James Randi said, "a PhD is not an inoculation against foolishness".
2. Being a scientist is not like being part of a priesthood. Many scientists, even prominent ones who have done very good work in the past, say and do remarkably stupid things. It is a vital feature of science that the dumb things get shunted aside and the things that work become part of the core, but the individuals are pretty poor at doing this.
3. It is important to note that the Discovery Institute is apparently attempting to ramp up their cred. This is fine, since attacks on the credibility of their people should never have been the focus anyway. Attack their shiatty and worthless science instead, how it ignores evidence. Way too easy of a victory for them if you chase your tail going "she's not a REAL scientist".
4. The photo thing is still pretty farking funny.

If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Designing is easy, I don't know why everyone gets hung up on that part. It's always the implementation that gets you.

Ishkur: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Well, of course you can because you've already seen the life that can exist.

Let's see you try doing it from SCRATCH.... with nothing existing to give you any inspiration. Then see how well you fare.

You think this Universe building shiat is easy?

Hey, I'd have enough foresight to make life forms that can adapt very quickly, and to not run the waste-disposal channel through a recreational area.

ProfessorOhki: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Designing is easy, I don't know why everyone gets hung up on that part. It's always the implementation that gets you.

Which makes you wonder how many times the designer reset the universe because he goofed.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Ishkur: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Well, of course you can because you've already seen the life that can exist.

Let's see you try doing it from SCRATCH.... with nothing existing to give you any inspiration. Then see how well you fare.

You think this Universe building shiat is easy?

Hey, I'd have enough foresight to make life forms that can adapt very quickly, and to not run the waste-disposal channel through a recreational area.

ProfessorOhki: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Designing is easy, I don't know why everyone gets hung up on that part. It's always the implementation that gets you.

Which makes you wonder how many times the designer reset the universe because he goofed.

I don't know, but after the first few, he/she/it became exceedingly efficient at it.

ProfessorOhki: Keizer_Ghidorah: Ishkur: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Well, of course you can because you've already seen the life that can exist.

Let's see you try doing it from SCRATCH.... with nothing existing to give you any inspiration. Then see how well you fare.

You think this Universe building shiat is easy?

Hey, I'd have enough foresight to make life forms that can adapt very quickly, and to not run the waste-disposal channel through a recreational area.

ProfessorOhki: Keizer_Ghidorah: If we were intelligently designed, the designer was NOT very intelligent. I can come up with much better life forms and I'm just a mere human.

Designing is easy, I don't know why everyone gets hung up on that part. It's always the implementation that gets you.

Which makes you wonder how many times the designer reset the universe because he goofed.

I don't know, but after the first few, he/she/it became exceedingly efficient at it.

Not really. Life forms are still quite inefficient at many things, not to mention the waste-disposal channel through the recreational area problem.

Keizer_Ghidorah: ProfessorOhki:
Which makes you wonder how many times the designer reset the universe because he goofed.

I don't know, but after the first few, he/she/it became exceedingly efficient at it.

Not really. Life forms are still quite inefficient at many things, not to mention the waste-disposal channel through the recreational area problem.

Oh c'mon, that one wasn't even remotely obscure.


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ProfessorOhki: Keizer_Ghidorah: ProfessorOhki:
Which makes you wonder how many times the designer reset the universe because he goofed.

I don't know, but after the first few, he/she/it became exceedingly efficient at it.

Not really. Life forms are still quite inefficient at many things, not to mention the waste-disposal channel through the recreational area problem.

Oh c'mon, that one wasn't even remotely obscure.
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Never saw The Matrix.

Ishkur: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, I'd have enough foresight to make life forms that can adapt very quickly, and to not run the waste-disposal channel through a recreational area.

It's a perfectly fine model of efficiency that eliminates redundancy. Why have three orifices when the same tasks can be accomplished with two?

Platypuses only have the one orifice and, as we all know, are the most convincing proof of ID. Well, more of "crap, I only have enough parts for one more critter and they don't line up," design really.

THE GREAT NAME: HighZoolander: THE GREAT NAME: HighZoolander: THE GREAT NAME: Quick question. Can anybody give me a reason why intelligent design is any different from climatology?

Hurr durr herr derr hurr herr der.

/There is it. You speak derp, right?

No I don't. I assume you gave me your reason in derp, but I must respectfully ask you to supply it in English.

Climatology is science, intelligent design is the opposite of science.

Give me one reason to believe climatology is a science.

If you understood what science was, you would understand that no one can give you any reason to "believe" that something is or isn't science, and that science doesn't care if you "believe" it or not.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Never saw The Matrix.

It was a great movie.
Too bad they never made any sequels.