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2012-12-20 05:30:16 PM
The cult -- a Christian group called Almighty God -- predicts Friday, the last day in the Mayan long count calendar, will bring with it three days of darkness and has urged its members to overthrow Communism, the BBC reported.
 
China is still Communist?  They're not very good at it these days, apparently.
 
2012-12-20 05:43:45 PM
How can you be a Christian and also believe that the Mayans had some mystical power to see into the future?
 
2012-12-20 05:53:35 PM

Osomatic: The cult -- a Christian group called Almighty God -- predicts Friday, the last day in the Mayan long count calendar, will bring with it three days of darkness and has urged its members to overthrow Communism, the BBC reported.
 
China is still Communist?  They're not very good at it these days, apparently.


After reading up on it, I was way wrong. China still is more Communist than it seems. 

So I guess it all makes sense: it's not unusual for hardcore Christian groups to want their members to fight against Communism.  Unlike here, though, in China there's still some Communism left to overthrow.
 
2012-12-20 05:53:37 PM
We in the USA could learn a lot from the Chinese.
 
2012-12-20 05:58:11 PM

Mugato: How can you be a Christian and also believe that the Mayans had some mystical power to see into the future?


Came to ask the same question.
 
/And if the mayans were such all-powerful seers, how come they didn't see their own end coming?
 
2012-12-20 06:34:38 PM
urged its members to overthrow Communism 
 
And they didn't foresee being arrested?  In CHINA?
 
2012-12-20 06:40:33 PM

fusillade762: urged its members to overthrow Communism 
 
And they didn't foresee being arrested?  In CHINA?


To be fair, China did just air 'V for Vendetta' on their national channel, making pretty much every Chinese person there watching it wonder WTF they're doing.
 
2012-12-20 07:24:15 PM
1000 Wongs don't make it right.
 
2012-12-20 07:24:34 PM
To learn
 
2012-12-20 07:26:47 PM
Meanwhile, to the northeast:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-20 07:27:31 PM
While I'm all for over throwing communism, they clearly didn't think their reasons all the way through. If the world ends Friday, there wont be communism left to over throw.
 
2012-12-20 07:28:57 PM
If you really believe the world will end this week, why bother to overthrow the government?
 
2012-12-20 07:34:11 PM

PreMortem: We in the USA could learn a lot from the Chinese.


Like how to arrest religious people for freely congregating and talking about things?

/we're probably halfway there.
 
2012-12-20 07:37:55 PM

Mugato: How can you be a Christian and also believe that the Mayans had some mystical power to see into the future?


I think you answered your own question.
 
2012-12-20 07:40:00 PM

Rufus Lee King: Oh, China. Well, no wonder. Here in the U.S., we would never persecute any group in that manner.
 
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you're right
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2012-12-20 07:40:40 PM
Ya know, China could just be making up this whole thing and rounding up the usual suspects and using it to FUD any real doomsday people they don't have tabs on.

Just sayin'.
 
2012-12-20 07:42:46 PM

Osomatic: Osomatic: The cult -- a Christian group called Almighty God -- predicts Friday, the last day in the Mayan long count calendar, will bring with it three days of darkness and has urged its members to overthrow Communism, the BBC reported.

China is still Communist?  They're not very good at it these days, apparently.

After reading up on it, I was way wrong. China still is more Communist than it seems.
So I guess it all makes sense: it's not unusual for hardcore Christian groups to want their members to fight against Communism.  Unlike here, though, in China there's still some Communism left to overthrow.


Read the Communist Manifesto, you'll find out China is not now nor has ever been a communist nation.

You will also learn that a 'communist government' is an oxymoron.

Funny that.
 
2012-12-20 07:44:19 PM

Uniquely Common: While I'm all for over throwing communism, they clearly didn't think their reasons all the way through. If the world ends Friday, there wont be communism left to over throw.


You don't get credit for the accomplishment unless you do it before the game ends. Duh.
 
2012-12-20 07:57:52 PM
We are getting this story from the Chinese media. The real facts are probably quite different.
 
2012-12-20 08:00:01 PM
You know it's the 21st in Australia. We should call them to see if they are still there.
 
2012-12-20 08:05:33 PM
Some Chinese wisdom...

1. How Long is a Chinaman.

2. When you're in a Chinese restaurant, don't order the Egg Foo Old or the Chow-Chow Mein.

3. Confucius say: man who stand on toilet high on pot.

4. Confucius say: man who fart in church sit alone in pew.

5. Confucius say: many man smoke, but Fu Manchu.

/ok, i'm spent...
 
2012-12-20 08:15:49 PM
The Branch Davidians who died in that fire were victims of society's fear of "weirdos." Remember that the original BATF raid was based on trumped-up bullshiat, and remember that Koresh and his circle were never brought to trial and/or questioned under oath, so all the "knowledge" we have of what went on in the compound is hearsay, rumor and Federal Government propaganda. It's too bad the Davidians were too early for iPhones with Youtube apps: we might have heard their side of the story. (That's enough "pedophile apologizing" for today, it's hard to argue when I'm about to pass out.)

Anyway. About the Maya doomsday thing: which time zone are they basing this on? Will the End Of The world roll "forward" or "backward" from Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), or will it end all at once? Doing a "date -u" tells me it's after 1 A.M. in Greenwich, so if the Doomsday was UTC-0 England's already gone. Please, somebody tell me soon what to set my alarm for: I'd hate to miss The End Of The World because George Dickel No. 8 is easy to drink!!1!!
 
2012-12-20 08:18:31 PM
Piestar:
[...]

Read the Communist Manifesto, you'll find out China is not now nor has ever been a communist nation.

You will also learn that a 'communist government' is an oxymoron.

Funny that.


Stop confusing people with the truth if you want to sit at the cool kids' table.
 
2012-12-20 08:20:42 PM

pounddawg: You know it's the 21st in Australia. We should call them to see if they are still there.


I assume the apocalypse is on eastern standard time.
 
2012-12-20 08:21:54 PM
...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.
 
2012-12-20 08:24:41 PM

Mugato: ...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.


Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...
 
2012-12-20 08:26:53 PM

Osomatic: Osomatic: The cult -- a Christian group called Almighty God -- predicts Friday, the last day in the Mayan long count calendar, will bring with it three days of darkness and has urged its members to overthrow Communism, the BBC reported.

China is still Communist?  They're not very good at it these days, apparently.

After reading up on it, I was way wrong. China still is more Communist than it seems.
So I guess it all makes sense: it's not unusual for hardcore Christian groups to want their members to fight against Communism.  Unlike here, though, in China there's still some Communism left to overthrow.


We can't let that happen. How will we get our crap at Walmart?
 
2012-12-20 08:30:14 PM

Psycat: Mugato: ...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.

Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...


Nonononono. I had to hear about this Mayan shiat for way too long. Tomorrow. Period.
 
2012-12-20 08:35:30 PM

Mugato: Nonononono. I had to hear about this Mayan shiat for way too long. Tomorrow. Period.


I'm tired of it too, but you and I know that, deep down, the Doomsday cultists will never admit they're wrong. They'll just do a Harold Camping and declare that they forgot to carry the 3 when they did their calculations and come up with another alternative date. *sigh* Just another reason that a powerful sterility drug should be put in the Kool Aid...

/no, the world ends on july 5th, 1998 according to the one true religion
//and that religion is the church of the subgenius ( www.subgenius.com )
///and that's july 5th, 1998 on the real calendar, not the conspiracy calendar
////and since the world hasn't ended, it can't be july 5th, 1998 yet
//so there
 
2012-12-20 08:50:42 PM

way south: PreMortem:

We in the USA could learn a lot from the Chinese.

Like how to arrest religious people for freely congregating and talking about things?

/we're probably halfway there.


More than halfway, depending on the subject.

For example: in Virginia you're old enough to get married when you're 12 (with parental consent) but the age of consent is at least 15 (when you're both under 18 but over 15). Does this mean that if two 12 year olds marry they have to wait three years to consummate it or they'll both be pedophile sex offenders? Try discussing that issue in a public place in say Lynchburg -- maybe while holding signs saying "This state's current Age of Consent law is stupid!" -- and I bet you'll be charged with something, whatever they can think up. Loitering, disturbing the peace, unlawful assembly, something. (And nobody who throws a bottle at your head would be arrested for anything.)

Personally I think Virginia could solve that by making it perfectly legal for anybody of any age to get jiggy with somebody very close in age -- like a 12 year old and a 13 year old, NOT a 58 year old and a first grader -- but once you start talking about changing the Age of Consent somebody's likely to call you a pervert or a "pedophile apologist" and that's all it'd take to get the hammer lowered.


/ Anyway. Somebody brought up the Waco thing when I'm very drunk after a very bad day: of course the rain finally stopped as I was shlepping my cold wet self off the bus at the stop nearest home. It's a conspiracy! Mossad controls the weather in Lexington, KY! OR SOMETHING!!!!
 
2012-12-20 09:01:57 PM

Psycat: Mugato:

...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.

Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...


There's about two weeks difference: I'm pretty sure that under the Julian calendar it's only December 6th where I sit almost face down on the keyboard. So the Julian doomsday would be January 4th.

Maybe I'll stay drunk till Presidents' Day and not notice a thing. If the world ends and you're in a drooling stupor what happens when the booze runs out? Would it be something like The Assault on Tony's?
 
2012-12-20 09:02:22 PM

Mugato: How can you be a Christian and also believe that the Mayans had some mystical power to see into the future?


nothing against people of faith but it must be said:
never underestimate the power of stupidity in large groups... thats how.
 
2012-12-20 09:07:07 PM

The One True TheDavid: Psycat: Mugato:

...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.

Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...

There's about two weeks difference: I'm pretty sure that under the Julian calendar it's only December 6th where I sit almost face down on the keyboard. So the Julian doomsday would be January 4th.

Maybe I'll stay drunk till Presidents' Day and not notice a thing. If the world ends and you're in a drooling stupor what happens when the booze runs out? Would it be something like The Assault on Tony's?


What would suck is if we ended up in a Groundhog-Day kind of loop on January 4th instead of the world ending. Then people would have to endure their New' Years hangovers over and over, ad infinitum...
 
2012-12-20 09:13:40 PM
Psycat:


/no, the world ends on july 5th, 1998 according to the one true religion
//and that religion is the church of the subgenius ( www.subgenius.com )
///and that's july 5th, 1998 on the real calendar, not the conspiracy calendar
////and since the world hasn't ended, it can't be july 5th, 1998 yet
//so there


The world DID end then. This is Hell. See?
 
2012-12-20 09:15:20 PM
today was 12 20 12 20 12 2012


AND NOBODY NOTICED?!?
 
2012-12-20 09:15:37 PM

The One True TheDavid: Psycat:


/no, the world ends on july 5th, 1998 according to the one true religion
//and that religion is the church of the subgenius ( www.subgenius.com )
///and that's july 5th, 1998 on the real calendar, not the conspiracy calendar
////and since the world hasn't ended, it can't be july 5th, 1998 yet
//so there

The world DID end then. This is Hell. See?


So THAT explains Snooki and Honey Boo Boo...
 
2012-12-20 09:16:51 PM
What's worse is that the world really ended and the Xist spaceships failed to pick me up and take me to the Planet of the Scuba Sex Vixens. Arggghhhhhh!
 
2012-12-20 09:20:15 PM

prjindigo: today was 12 20 12 20 12 2012


AND NOBODY NOTICED?!?


I noticed.
 
2012-12-20 09:21:13 PM

Psycat: The One True TheDavid: Psycat: Mugato:

...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.

Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...

There's about two weeks difference: I'm pretty sure that under the Julian calendar it's only December 6th where I sit almost face down on the keyboard. So the Julian doomsday would be January 4th.

Maybe I'll stay drunk till Presidents' Day and not notice a thing. If the world ends and you're in a drooling stupor what happens when the booze runs out? Would it be something like The Assault on Tony's?

What would suck is if we ended up in a Groundhog-Day kind of loop on January 4th instead of the world ending. Then people would have to endure their New' Years hangovers over and over, ad infinitum...


Or maybe the DID take the Julian > Gregorian change into account like my brother-in-law would: the world will take 14 days to end. Incrementally, maybe even slow motion, instead of all at once. It'll hurt more that way. (This is why I've never asked him for a loan.)
 
2012-12-20 09:26:10 PM

Indubitably: prjindigo:

today was 12 20 12 20 12 2012


AND NOBODY NOTICED?!?

I noticed.


The less I notice the better my life is. Yours too, O readers of my wisdom.


/ The voices tell me eating, drinking unspiked pineapple juice and taking aspirin might avert an awful hangover. Imagine my confusion.
 
2012-12-20 09:58:05 PM

scottydoesntknow: Mugato: How can you be a Christian and also believe that the Mayans had some mystical power to see into the future?

Came to ask the same question.

/And if the mayans were such all-powerful seers, how come they didn't see their own end coming?


Maybe because they are still here?
 
2012-12-20 10:00:24 PM

pounddawg: You know it's the 21st in Australia. We should call them to see if they are still there.


They don't live in Pacific Mayan Time. They will find out soon enough though.
 
2012-12-20 10:02:49 PM

Psycat: Mugato: Nonononono. I had to hear about this Mayan shiat for way too long. Tomorrow. Period.

I'm tired of it too, but you and I know that, deep down, the Doomsday cultists will never admit they're wrong. They'll just do a Harold Camping and declare that they forgot to carry the 3 when they did their calculations and come up with another alternative date. *sigh* Just another reason that a powerful sterility drug should be put in the Kool Aid...

/no, the world ends on july 5th, 1998 according to the one true religion
//and that religion is the church of the subgenius ( www.subgenius.com )
///and that's july 5th, 1998 on the real calendar, not the conspiracy calendar
////and since the world hasn't ended, it can't be july 5th, 1998 yet
//so there


Bah, they are all idiots anyway. In 1884, Meridian time personnel met in Washington to change Earth time. First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1day and ignored the other 3 days.The bible time was wrong then and it proved wrong today.
 
2012-12-20 10:07:20 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Bah, they are all idiots anyway. In 1884, Meridian time personnel met in Washington to change Earth time. First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1day and ignored the other 3 days.The bible time was wrong then and it proved wrong today.


What's weird is that I was reading the Time Cube Guy's website a while back and he mentioned something about the Meridian folks in Washington. I wonder how TCG's each-day-is-actually-four-days philosophy works out in light of the Mayan prophecies...
 
2012-12-20 10:54:22 PM

Psycat: The One True TheDavid: Psycat: Mugato:

...or maybe central. Yeah, the Mayans are on central time. I think.

Yes, but did the Mayans take into account the days lost when the world switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? Perhaps Doomsday is actually in January. With any luck, it'd be close to New Year's so a few billion people would be spared hangovers...

There's about two weeks difference: I'm pretty sure that under the Julian calendar it's only December 6th where I sit almost face down on the keyboard. So the Julian doomsday would be January 4th.

Maybe I'll stay drunk till Presidents' Day and not notice a thing. If the world ends and you're in a drooling stupor what happens when the booze runs out? Would it be something like The Assault on Tony's?

What would suck is if we ended up in a Groundhog-Day kind of loop on January 4th instead of the world ending. Then people would have to endure their New' Years hangovers over and over, ad infinitum...


That's a lot of sex... with a hangover.
 
2012-12-21 06:43:40 AM

Psycat: Some Chinese wisdom...

1. How Long is a Chinaman.

2. When you're in a Chinese restaurant, don't order the Egg Foo Old or the Chow-Chow Mein.

3. Confucius say: man who stand on toilet high on pot.

4. Confucius say: man who fart in church sit alone in pew.

5. Confucius say: many man smoke, but Fu Manchu.

/ok, i'm spent...


Another Confucianism: Baseball wrong, man with four balls cannot walk.
 
2012-12-21 09:57:45 AM

way south: PreMortem: We in the USA could learn a lot from the Chinese.

Like how to arrest religious crazy people for freely congregating and talking prothlesizing about things that might cause already mentally disturbed people to do something dangerous?

/we're probably halfway there.



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