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(Washington Post)   Paul Ryan supports Plan B in cases where the Speaker's job is in danger   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 32
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2012-12-20 03:32:07 PM
Well, he did have his own "Plan B" during the election, in that he stayed on the Congressional ballot.
 
2012-12-20 05:03:05 PM
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Hey Girl, no need for a condom. I support Plan B.
 
2012-12-20 06:05:23 PM
 
2012-12-20 06:21:10 PM
I wish his mother had taken Plan B.
 
2012-12-20 08:35:32 PM
But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.
 
2012-12-20 08:46:04 PM

Mugato: I wish his mother had taken Plan B.


QFT!
 
2012-12-20 08:49:38 PM

lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.


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"Hey girl... no need for Plan B, Boehner pulled out!"
 
2012-12-20 08:49:57 PM
Okay, so I realize the majority controls when bills come up and all of that jazz, but shouldn't we be able to create some sort of bill that all of the Democrats and 20 or so of the Republicans would vote for? Something that would actually pass the Senate?
 
2012-12-20 08:52:29 PM

CmndrFish: Okay, so I realize the majority controls when bills come up and all of that jazz, but shouldn't we be able to create some sort of bill that all of the Democrats and 20 or so of the Republicans would vote for? Something that would actually pass the Senate?


media.salon.com
"I don't think so."
 
2012-12-20 09:25:10 PM
Too bad they couldn't get anyone else to support it.
 
2012-12-20 09:26:12 PM
Looks like they got an abortion instead.
 
2012-12-20 09:32:53 PM

lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.


Boehner is screwed. His only option now is going to be to cut a deal and pass the bill with a handful of Republicans and a majority of Democrats. If that doesn't doom his speakership, it ensures he'll be primaried by a purer Republican in 2014.
 
2012-12-20 09:36:25 PM

lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.



I think I can now cite this as the exact moment I became fully convinced of Maddow's "Boehner is simply bad at his job" theory.

Maybe the GOP needs to get rid of him as Speaker, and not just for their own sake.
 
2012-12-20 09:38:53 PM

Stile4aly: lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.

Boehner is screwed. His only option now is going to be to cut a deal and pass the bill with a handful of Republicans and a majority of Democrats. If that doesn't doom his speakership, it ensures he'll be primaried by a purer Republican in 2014.


Eric Cantor got his Christmas present early.
 
2012-12-20 09:42:40 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Stile4aly: lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.

Boehner is screwed. His only option now is going to be to cut a deal and pass the bill with a handful of Republicans and a majority of Democrats. If that doesn't doom his speakership, it ensures he'll be primaried by a purer Republican in 2014.

Eric Cantor got his Christmas present early.


If you thought Boehner was bad at his job, Cantor would be 10x worse.
 
2012-12-20 09:45:26 PM

enry: Philip Francis Queeg: Stile4aly: lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.

Boehner is screwed. His only option now is going to be to cut a deal and pass the bill with a handful of Republicans and a majority of Democrats. If that doesn't doom his speakership, it ensures he'll be primaried by a purer Republican in 2014.

Eric Cantor got his Christmas present early.

If you thought Boehner was bad at his job, Cantor would be 10x worse.


No doubt, but he's very likely to get a chance to prove it.
 
2012-12-20 09:45:29 PM
Well, looks like he 0-2 on picking winners....
 
2012-12-20 09:48:16 PM

enry: Philip Francis Queeg: Stile4aly: lemurs: But Boehner just killed it, citing lack of votes from his own caucus. So now we get to watch the Republican party eat itself, and their ongoing disfunction will get them slaughtered.

Boehner is screwed. His only option now is going to be to cut a deal and pass the bill with a handful of Republicans and a majority of Democrats. If that doesn't doom his speakership, it ensures he'll be primaried by a purer Republican in 2014.

Eric Cantor got his Christmas present early.

If you thought Boehner was bad at his job, Cantor would be 10x worse.


Depends on the job description.

As we have seen, the GOP cares nothing of burning this country, the economy and the world economy to the ground if it means they can rebuild it as their ideological paradise. A country that isn't what they think it should be, isn't a real America.

Cantor is a true believer. He'd be very happy to assume the role.
 
2012-12-20 09:50:04 PM
Looks like those Bush tax cuts are going to expire for everyone. Along with the payroll tax break. All because the GOP can't take the Koch put of their mouth long enough to work for the little guy for once.
 
2012-12-20 09:50:11 PM
Maybe, maybe not. At least in one sense.

Boehner's leadership is so weak, that at this point he effectively adds a whole new phase to every step of negotiations: "Can orange bowl here actually pull together the votes that he claims to have lined up?" The result is a lot of backtracking and wasted time.

Cantor is a jackass, true; but if he stuck his neck out and claimed to be able to deliver x votes on a given bill, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe him than Boehner these days. I doubt the House would get any more or less intractable in negotiations either way, but at least with him it might reach the same conclusion a little faster.
 
2012-12-20 10:11:29 PM

Wasteland: Maybe, maybe not. At least in one sense.

Boehner's leadership is so weak, that at this point he effectively adds a whole new phase to every step of negotiations: "Can orange bowl here actually pull together the votes that he claims to have lined up?" The result is a lot of backtracking and wasted time.

Cantor is a jackass, true; but if he stuck his neck out and claimed to be able to deliver x votes on a given bill, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe him than Boehner these days. I doubt the House would get any more or less intractable in negotiations either way, but at least with him it might reach the same conclusion a little faster.


Cantor is a rich Jewish blueblooded Goldwater Republican K-Street Insider twerp. He'll have nothing in common with the slackjawed born again hillbilly TeaTards coming into the House from the derpy districts from the flyover states. Canton only seems potentially more effective because he's been using Boehner as a human shield this entire time.
 
2012-12-20 10:16:47 PM
Does Boehner have enough sane Republicans left to form an alliance w/ the Democrats and get something done?
 
2012-12-20 10:19:16 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Looks like they got an abortion instead.


More like a dunk in the bathtub. ;)
 
2012-12-20 10:35:20 PM

TyrantII: Well, looks like he 0-2 on picking winners....


Worse than that...

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"I drafted Mark Sanchez and Michael Vick on my fantasy team!"
 
2012-12-20 10:39:54 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Does Boehner have enough sane Republicans left to form an alliance w/ the Democrats and get something done?


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"Is that a trick question?"
 
2012-12-20 10:47:30 PM
Is this the Plan B that was withdrawn from the House floor due to a massive shortage of GOP support? Awww.
 
2012-12-20 11:08:07 PM
"Merry Christmas," said Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) "There is a lump of coal in the president's box."


I haven't seen strategy this brilliant since Pacquiao decided to start blocking Marquez' straight right with his face.
 
2012-12-20 11:08:53 PM
Honestly, if he's not negotiating with any real power, and he's still playing political theatre by trying to pass his own purely republican bills and failing to even get them through the republican caucus, he is quite simply incompetent, and should be called that publicly.

It would be very interesting to see what would happen if Obama (or one of his surrogates) went out and specifically called Bohner incompetent, and said the republicans had to either put someone in power who could get a deal done or they'd negotiate around the republican leadership. It might lead to a Speaker Cantor, but that will probably happen anyway and this way it would be seen as Republican's caving to Obama, and probably further fragment the Republican caucus. It would be interesting if democrats could work with some moderate Republicans to get a deal done in some way at that point.
 
2012-12-20 11:23:52 PM

InmanRoshi: "Merry Christmas," said Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) "There is a lump of coal in the president's box."

I haven't seen strategy this brilliant since Pacquiao decided to start blocking Marquez' straight right with his face.


You realize West is out, so the only thing he's interested in is making the most outrageous statements possible in order to get the name recognition for the inevitable book deal and speaking tour.

F*ck West. I don't think Santa's even going to bother with the coal for him.
 
2012-12-21 02:49:02 AM

CmndrFish: Okay, so I realize the majority controls when bills come up and all of that jazz, but shouldn't we be able to create some sort of bill that all of the Democrats and 20 or so of the Republicans would vote for? Something that would actually pass the Senate?


Look up the "Hastert Rule."
 
2012-12-21 09:42:02 AM
Or as I like to call it Plan Plan Turn-this-city-into-a-floatin'-ass-fortress-of-airborne-awesomeness B
 
2012-12-21 10:02:17 AM
When I saw that they were naming it "Plan B", I wondered how long it would take for someone to make this joke.
 
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