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(Think Progress)   Headline: Boehner is willing to raise taxes on millionaires Reality: His "Plan B" proposal is actually chock-full of gifts to the most wealthy, which are paid for by tax increases for those making less than $50K   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 273
    More: Sick, Boehner, gift taxes, Citizens for Tax Justice, estate taxes, Speaker of the House, gifts, child tax credit, Bush Tax Cuts  
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2012-12-20 10:00:40 AM  
Where's the obvious tag?
 
2012-12-20 10:00:49 AM  
Obvious tag on vacation or what?
 
2012-12-20 10:01:05 AM  
i40.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-20 10:01:31 AM  
Obvious?
 
2012-12-20 10:02:20 AM  
The GOP is defending the robber barons at the peril of our economy, they are the greatest threat to the nation since the Civil War.
 
2012-12-20 10:02:30 AM  
Boehner, "i didn't think they'd actually read it..."
 
2012-12-20 10:03:20 AM  
Them poor people need to have more skin in the game.
 
2012-12-20 10:04:02 AM  
I may have to give him a call about this.

/live in his district
 
2012-12-20 10:05:05 AM  

monoski: Them poor people need to have more skin in the game.


Damn straight. What we need to do is take the skin they have in the game away from them, so they'll be motivated to get more skin in the game.

/amidoinitrite
 
2012-12-20 10:05:16 AM  
Sounds like the Romney Plan.
 
2012-12-20 10:05:45 AM  
I don't really see the peril here.

The media is in a frenzy, but they like to sensationalize.

I know for a fact my taxes won't be increased. When we go over the "cliff", the democrats will introduce a bill to keep my tax cuts and any republican who votes against it will lose their seat to the tea party.

The spending cuts? The stuff they are negotiating on terrifies me, I prefer the cliff on that. If we have to choose between cutting spending on the military or sick/old people, any moral person would cut the military.

Just let it go man.
 
2012-12-20 10:06:22 AM  
I told you guys Plan B would turn out to be an abortion.
 
2012-12-20 10:07:01 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I may have to give him a call about this.

/live in his district


Ha. HahahAHHAhahAhah. That's good.

It doesn't matter where you live, if you aren't in the 1% of toeing the party line, the GOP doesn't consider you one of their constituents.

Party before country!
 
2012-12-20 10:07:28 AM  
There is no reason for Dems to sweat the House bill. A new poll from CNN explains why: The GOP's brand is in terrible shape and Republicans are poised to take the blame for any failure to reach a deal.  Fifty three percent of Americans see GOP policies as too extreme.  Fewer than a third trust the Congressional GOP more than Obama to deal with the nation's most pressing problems. Obama's approval rating is at 52 percent. Forty eight percent will blame the GOP if we go over the cliff; only 37 percent will blame the President.   Link
 
2012-12-20 10:07:42 AM  
It is only intended to extend the tax rate cuts for those making less than $1 million until a broader deal is reached. Why is Subby opposed to that?
 
2012-12-20 10:08:06 AM  
Obvious tag is sick.
 
2012-12-20 10:08:13 AM  
They shouldn't be cutting taxis. Its already hard enough to find one in the rain.
 
2012-12-20 10:08:38 AM  
obvious tag busy putting orange glo on Boehner
 
2012-12-20 10:08:40 AM  
Political theatre.

Will be voted against by the teabaggers, most of the non-bagger repubs, all the dems, and would be veto'd by the prez even if it did find the votes. The only thing I see Plan B possibly accomplishing is showing the cracks in Grover's pledge from the repubs who *do* vote for expiring the Bush Jr tax cuts on those making a mil or more, making the eventual "Plan A" compromise all the easier to justify. Not sure what Boehner was hoping to accomplish here even as theatre.
 
2012-12-20 10:09:01 AM  

monoski: Them poor people poors need to have more skin in the game.


Get with the accepted nomenclature.
 
2012-12-20 10:10:07 AM  
www.estergoldberg.com
 
2012-12-20 10:10:15 AM  

monoski: Them poor people need to have more skin in the game.


It'll motivate them to work harder if they know they can get a better tax deal by increasing their income. Duh. They'll quit choosing to be poor and choose to be millionaires so they can get a sweet piece of that handout pie. Simple logic, really.

Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're [working three jobs]. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.) -- George W. Bush, February 4th, 2005, awkwardly mocking Mary Mornin, a fifty-something with three children, one mentally handicapped


I kind of miss the days when we had a reliably open, unfiltered tap between the horrible things that bounce around inside conservative brains and what comes out of their mouths. Now it's all dog whistles and sneaky proposals.
 
2012-12-20 10:10:22 AM  
C'mon, guys! If you don't like it, you can just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and become rich yourself!

That's the reason that rich people are special, right? Because everyone else is just too lazy to put in the work to earn that much? And that's why they deserve to get more money at your expense, to make you work longer hours for less pay, and expect you to act as though you 'own the company', despite seeing no difference to your own paycheck from it.

Because they're so very, very special.

Frankly, you're all just lucky to get to live on the same planet as them.

/And if you're really good, you might even get to look at their cars as they drive past.
//Y'know, if you're lucky.
 
2012-12-20 10:10:38 AM  

Cataholic: It is only intended to extend the tax rate cuts for those making less than $1 million until a broader deal is reached. Why is Subby opposed to that?


I worked really hard and put together this summary for you:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-20 10:10:55 AM  
I just don't understand why people just can't accept reality. It is imperative that we raise taxes that hit middle class americans hardest and cut benefits to medicare, medicaid, and social security which hit middle/lower class Americans hardest. If we don't do that, then we'd be forced to cut a defense budget that is more than the next 10 countries combined and we'd have to raise historically low tax rates on the wealthy to rates that were perfectly fine 10 years ago.

I'm amazed that people don't see how wrong that would be. Now, socialism booga booga!
 
2012-12-20 10:11:19 AM  
I consider my self a bit of a poltical junkie, but I guess I hadn't read the plan B stories carefully enough before now, it's actually a little shocking to me how nakedly pro-wealthy people this proposal is.  Sure that seems to be the core of all the GOP's efforts these days, but jay-sus they usually try to hide it better than that.  Increase taxes by $1,000 for people only making 10K a year?  That's sickening  and obviously unsupportable, especially when it's going to sponsor favorable tax breaks for Capital gains and gift taxes
 
2012-12-20 10:11:38 AM  
The comments in the article are amazing.
 
2012-12-20 10:13:01 AM  
How this clown got elected the first question...

How this clown got named Speaker of the House is the second...

Why anyone would trust anything he says / writes / does is the third...

It's not about the letter before his name, this guy is truly a self-serving PITA for the American people.
 
2012-12-20 10:13:07 AM  

ojin_migoto: C'mon, guys! If you don't like it, you can just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and become rich yourself!


I was actually going to call my mom today and ask her for $200,000 and millions of shares of stock so that I could work hard and become rich
 
2012-12-20 10:13:37 AM  

Cataholic: It is only intended to extend the tax rate cuts for those making less than $1 million until a broader deal is reached. Why is Subby opposed to that?


Because he's well-trained to do everything he can to make the rich even more rich, and in return they promise that he'll be free from gubmint taxes once he makes over $1 million/year.... because he's gonna start a business someday.... don't ask for details, a business..... it doesn't matter I'm already 63 and I've been talking about it for 25 years, but haven't come one step closer.... and that I don't have any money to actually start a business..... And I ain't gonna use no soshulizt small business grant from the gubmint to do it neither, I ain't no commie moocher... it's gonna happen, and when it does I don't want the gubmint taking my money and giving it to those inner-city thugs.

/sorry
//got possessed by my teabagger uncle for a moment.
 
2012-12-20 10:13:55 AM  

Cataholic: It is only intended to extend the tax rate cuts for those making less than $1 million until a broader deal is reached. Why is Subby opposed to that?

 
cause I'm not a big fanof taking poor people hostage to wring some extra herp and or derp out of Obama,  and rasing taxes by 10% of the total income of someone with children who is currently making only 10K a year  (that's less than $1k per month) is actually obscene in my view
 
2012-12-20 10:15:21 AM  
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-20 10:17:19 AM  
Like the GOP would propose anything that actually helps poor and working families... These plutocratic assholes have made it very clear who their loyalties lie with over the last four years. They will bend over backwards and put working and poor Americans into worse financial situations to make the sure the wealthiest Americans bare no costs of the recovery.

Austerity - Making the poor and middle classes pay for the excesses, avarice and crimes of the wealthy elite.
 
2012-12-20 10:18:43 AM  

bulldg4life: If we don't do that, then we'd be forced to cut a defense budget that is more than the next 10 countries combined.


But then we wouldn't be WINNING!
 
2012-12-20 10:19:16 AM  

keylock71: Austerity - Making the poor and middle classes pay for the excesses, avarice and crimes of the wealthy elite.


And, as history shows, probably the worst action you can take during a recession or a recovery. It would make more sense distribute 500 dollars to every man, woman and child in the US than to go with austerity.
 
2012-12-20 10:19:43 AM  
Only two groups would see a lightened tax load. Those who earn between $200,000 and $500,000 a year would pay an average of $301 less under the Plan B proposal than they do right now. And earners who make between $500,000 and $1 million would pay $164 less.  Link
 
2012-12-20 10:19:46 AM  

bulldg4life: ojin_migoto: C'mon, guys! If you don't like it, you can just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and become rich yourself!

I was actually going to call my mom today and ask her for $200,000 and millions of shares of stock so that I could work hard and become rich


That's the spirit! But it'd be even more bootstrappy if you could just ask her for the whole company, obviously. Then you could asset-strip it, use the profits to buy two more companies, and repeat the process all over again. Then you just wipe the sweat from your brow, look out over the sea of newly-unemployed poor people, crack a cold one and relax with the great feeling of having done a hard day's work.
 
2012-12-20 10:20:06 AM  
His "Plan B" proposal is actually chock-full of gifts to the most wealthy
 
 
www.christianknighthood.net
 
2012-12-20 10:21:09 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: And earners who make between $500,000 and $1 million would pay $164 less.


Hey, that's 164 dollars of job creation.
 
2012-12-20 10:21:32 AM  

the opposite of charity is justice: The only thing I see Plan B possibly accomplishing is showing the cracks in Grover's pledge from the repubs who *do* vote for


All Boner wanted to do was get some headlines out there that said he was will to compromise. Whether it would pass the House, the Senate or signed by the president are all irrelevant.
 
2012-12-20 10:22:08 AM  

mahuika: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 503x515]


Bro, do you even lift?
 
2012-12-20 10:23:51 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I may have to give him a call about this.

/live in his district


Please do.

/Serious
 
2012-12-20 10:24:17 AM  
And he can't even pass his own plan through the house.
 
2012-12-20 10:28:31 AM  
This plan is like a middle schooler's rushed book report. Just get something, anything on paper, you might scrape out a C- for just handing something in.

What I don't get is what his plan is when this fails in the Senate. He'll have to go back in front of Obama with a weaker hand.
 
2012-12-20 10:28:34 AM  
And worst of all it doesn't sufficiently take successful people out and flog them for only paying for most of everything everyone uses.
 
2012-12-20 10:29:15 AM  

Magorn: I consider my self a bit of a poltical junkie, but I guess I hadn't read the plan B stories carefully enough before now, it's actually a little shocking to me how nakedly pro-wealthy people this proposal is.  Sure that seems to be the core of all the GOP's efforts these days, but jay-sus they usually try to hide it better than that.  Increase taxes by $1,000 for people only making 10K a year?  That's sickening  and obviously unsupportable, especially when it's going to sponsor favorable tax breaks for Capital gains and gift taxes


Well seeing as how the plan just was announced two days ago, I don't think you can blame yourself. The best you can say is this is Boehner's attempt to propose a last minute negotiating position. Probably, this is just a half-assed attempt to save his job.
 
2012-12-20 10:29:49 AM  

randomjsa: And worst of all it doesn't sufficiently take successful people out and flog them for only paying for most of everything everyone uses.


The rich should get revenge on all of us by giving away their fortunes and living the high life on welfare.
 
2012-12-20 10:29:51 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I may have to give him a call about this.

/live in his district


To congratulate him? Arent you Republican. Raising taxes on the poor is your teams "thing".
 
2012-12-20 10:30:56 AM  

randomjsa: And worst of all it doesn't sufficiently take successful people out and flog them for only paying for most of everything everyone uses.


Paying an extra 3% of the income that you make over $250k to help balance the countries budget, because the poor people you fleeced can't afford it = flogging. Gotcha.
 
2012-12-20 10:31:57 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: This plan is like a middle schooler's rushed book report. Just get something, anything on paper, you might scrape out a C- for just handing something in.

What I don't get is what his plan is when this fails in the Senate. He'll have to go back in front of Obama with a weaker hand.


They're still reeling from losing the election. How could polls so unskewed be so wrong?
 
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