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2012-12-20 09:25:03 AM
THAT'S the headline I was waiting for
 
2012-12-20 09:26:40 AM
No. God made our hands to grip bananas. Kirk Cameron told me so.
 
2012-12-20 09:43:27 AM
Don't call it a comeback!
 
2012-12-20 11:43:44 AM
""We asked the question: 'can you strike harder with a fist than with an open palm?'," co-author David Carrier told BBC News."

Really? REALL? These are researchers? Sigh.
 
2012-12-20 11:50:30 AM
Okay, admitting that I haven't tracked down the original research article, here's my first thought:

Did the hand evolve into its present shape because we punch, or do we punch because the hand evolved into its present shape? I mean, those of us who are pipe smokers use their mouths to hold a pipe, but that doesn't mean that pipe smoking influenced the structure of the mouth, it's exactly the opposite. So maybe we punch because we figured out that, of all the ways to hold the hand while bashing someone, that happens to be the most effective.

The hand makes a terrible club. Think about the training necessary to hit someone without breaking your hand (and even then, trained fighters still break their hands). The hand is awesome, however, at gripping an actual club. This is why stickfighters are better than boxers (neener neener).
 
2012-12-20 11:51:37 AM

maverickzy: ""We asked the question: 'can you strike harder with a fist than with an open palm?'," co-author David Carrier told BBC News."

Really? REALL? These are researchers? Sigh.


And who elected you Grand High Arbiter of Worthy Research Questions?
 
2012-12-20 11:59:54 AM

maverickzy: ""We asked the question: 'can you strike harder with a fist than with an open palm?'," co-author David Carrier told BBC News."


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Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique FTW
 
2012-12-20 12:04:57 PM

Son of Thunder: maverickzy: ""We asked the question: 'can you strike harder with a fist than with an open palm?'," co-author David Carrier told BBC News."

Really? REALL? These are researchers? Sigh.

And who elected you Grand High Arbiter of Worthy Research Questions?


It's a fine question to ask. But the question of what you can strike harder with, fist or open palm is nonsensical. You hit with the same amount of force, ignoring any energy dissipation, with both a fist and an open palm. The force of the strike is based on the acceleration of a complex set of joints, which is the same for both.

The question they SHOULD be asking is what hand shape causes the most stress on a thing. And there the answer is, of course, fist. Just a silly way to put the question for an expert in the field.
 
2012-12-20 12:26:00 PM
This article irritates the fark out of me because it fails to just assume the simplest explanation, ergo: our closest primate relatives ALL use their fist/wrist/knuckles as part of their terrestrial locomotion. Make a fist and crawl around. Funny, it works best when it's just like a punching fist.

We're a contentious, violent, aggressive species, but it pisses me off that some dipshiat probably got paid for several years to make this retarded, wrongheaded assumption.
 
2012-12-20 12:58:03 PM
I can state with some certainty that the people who wrote this article have never done any self defence training in their lives.
 
2012-12-20 01:46:19 PM
As every Farker knows with certainty, the shape of the human hand evolved for holding Jergens bottles and for fapping.

Oh, wait. Evolution-wise, that would be an inverse relationship.

Never mind.
 
2012-12-20 01:48:22 PM

neongoats: This article irritates the fark out of me because it fails to just assume the simplest explanation, ergo: our closest primate relatives ALL use their fist/wrist/knuckles as part of their terrestrial locomotion. Make a fist and crawl around. Funny, it works best when it's just like a punching fist.

We're a contentious, violent, aggressive species, but it pisses me off that some dipshiat probably got paid for several years to make this retarded, wrongheaded assumption.


That sweet sweet government grant money.....

This line of research sounds almost as lucrative for long term employment as Global Warming.
 
2012-12-20 02:15:56 PM
You ever try to jerk it with a hoof?
 
2012-12-20 03:05:46 PM

TheOther: You ever try to jerk it with a hoof?


Was that a semi-rhetorical question?

Hominids needed hands to grasp and climb because that is a great way to escape and be safe.
The adaption is also in the eyes. The eyes evolving to be more forward facing and spread
apart to give stereoscopic vision. The ability to judge distance and depth to make arboreal movement easier.
 
2012-12-20 03:20:46 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: TheOther: You ever try to jerk it with a hoof?

Was that a semi-rhetorical question?

Hominids needed hands to grasp and climb because that is a great way to escape and be safe.
The adaption is also in the eyes. The eyes evolving to be more forward facing and spread
apart to give stereoscopic vision. The ability to judge distance and depth to make arboreal movement easier.


Not to mention tri-color vision to tell the difference between fruit and leaves.
 
2012-12-20 04:00:47 PM
Researchers have found that one should never hit a man with a closed fist.
/But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
 
2012-12-20 04:40:02 PM
"We asked the question: 'can you strike harder with a fist than with an open palm?'," co-author David Carrier told BBC News. We were surprised because the fist strikes were not more forceful than the strikes with the palm. In terms of the work on the bag there is really no difference. Of course, the surface that strikes the target with a fist is smaller, so there is more stress from a fist strike. The force per area is higher in a fist strike and that is what causes localised tissue damage," said Prof Carrier."

Whoooooooo!
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2012-12-20 04:55:05 PM
Now THAT'S a headline!
 
2012-12-20 05:45:53 PM
I don't need to tell you that this is a brilliant headline.

That said, it's a brilliant headline.
 
2012-12-20 10:14:13 PM

Gwendolyn: No. God made our hands to grip bananas. Kirk Cameron told me so.


No, dumbass, god made our mouths to....nevermind.
 
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