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(Daily Mail)   Geneticists say that there is a 52% chance that Kate Middleton's baby will be red-heired   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 29
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2012-12-20 04:30:14 AM
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2012-12-20 04:51:49 AM
Lack of snark gets a -1 from me
 
2012-12-20 09:31:12 AM
Thank you, whichever admin it was, for adding that snark
 
2012-12-20 09:55:37 AM
It's just a red hairing
 
2012-12-20 11:15:12 AM
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2012-12-20 11:15:19 AM
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2012-12-20 11:28:16 AM
Idiots. There's a 50% chance - either he'll have red hair, or he won't.

/Why yes I failed stats class
//Why do you ask?
 
2012-12-20 11:28:30 AM

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I think the odds are lower, as Harry's father is the Well Spoken Man and not Charles'.
 
2012-12-20 11:33:01 AM
A possible red heirling then?
 
2012-12-20 11:39:37 AM
Ling live the ginger King of En-ga-land!
 
2012-12-20 11:39:49 AM
Honest Bender says there's a 100% chance of who gives a fark.
 
2012-12-20 11:45:54 AM
and lo the seventh seal was opened...,
 
2012-12-20 12:17:31 PM
I have it on good authority that the baby will be black, perhaps with red hair, it's tough to say, but black skin.
 
2012-12-20 12:34:31 PM
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2012-12-20 12:37:54 PM
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2012-12-20 01:07:07 PM
I read the headline as "Gynecologist," and thought, why would they have any insight into the baby's hair color?...unless kate isn't really a brunette
 
2012-12-20 01:17:28 PM
It all depends if it is hot redhead chick, or ginger monstrosity. They have to fall into one category or the other. Here's hoping for the former.
 
2012-12-20 01:21:24 PM

hubris73: I read the headline as "Gynecologist," and thought, why would they have any insight into the baby's hair color?...unless kate isn't really a brunette

 
He's a very thorough gynecologist. VERY Thorough.
 
2012-12-20 01:58:24 PM
The writer made some mistakes here. The odds are not 52% or 50% - they are 25% at best.

Red hair is recessive - which means that in order to exhibit the hair color you need to receive the red hair gene from BOTH of your parents. Because Harry is a ginger and Charles, William, and Diana are NOT it can be concluded that Charles and Diana are carriers and that William has even odds of being either a carrier or devoid of the red hair gene. So there is only a 25% chance of the kid getting the ginger gene from dad.

Now for Kate's side.- she is either a carrier or not. That means she has a 0 or 50% chance of passing a ginger gene on to her kid. Since being a ginger requires getting the red haired gene from BOTH parents the best possible odds of the kid being a ginger is 12.5% - and that is assuming that Kate is a carrier. If you assume that she has the same odds as the rest of Britain (38%) - there is ~9.5% chance of the baby being a ginger.
 
2012-12-20 02:17:43 PM
limeyfellow: It all depends if it is hot redhead chick, or ginger monstrosity. They have to fall into one category or the other. Here's hoping for the former.

No soul, either way.
 
2012-12-20 02:20:20 PM
FTA: 'The way the genetic dice fall, that means Prince William has a 67 per cent chance of being a carrier of the gene variant. The question remains, is Kate a carrier?

'As a result of our study, we can say she has a 38.3 per cent chance of being one. If those percentages are averaged, it is 52 per cent likely that Kate and Wills will have a red-haired child.'


What? I don't even...
 
2012-12-20 02:21:51 PM
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy!!!!!!
 
2012-12-20 04:20:17 PM
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2012-12-20 06:20:56 PM

El Uno Magnifico: Idiots. There's a 50% chance - either he'll have red hair, or he won't.

/Why yes I failed stats class
//Why do you ask?


It's actually 100%, one way or the other.
 
2012-12-20 09:33:45 PM
£2 says that it's black.
 
2012-12-21 09:20:59 AM

boyuber: £2 says that it's black.


You're on. Both its parents are Caucasian.
 
2012-12-22 12:36:37 AM
I read that as Kate Upton's baby will be red-haired and started thinking of her as a redhead. Off to my bunk.

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2012-12-22 09:25:33 PM

madgonad: The writer made some mistakes here. The odds are not 52% or 50% - they are 25% at best.

Red hair is recessive - which means that in order to exhibit the hair color you need to receive the red hair gene from BOTH of your parents. Because Harry is a ginger and Charles, William, and Diana are NOT it can be concluded that Charles and Diana are carriers and that William has even odds of being either a carrier or devoid of the red hair gene. So there is only a 25% chance of the kid getting the ginger gene from dad.

Now for Kate's side.- she is either a carrier or not. That means she has a 0 or 50% chance of passing a ginger gene on to her kid. Since being a ginger requires getting the red haired gene from BOTH parents the best possible odds of the kid being a ginger is 12.5% - and that is assuming that Kate is a carrier. If you assume that she has the same odds as the rest of Britain (38%) - there is ~9.5% chance of the baby being a ginger.


Pretty much what I came here to say, although if both Charles and Diana were carriers wouldn't that mean William's got a 75% chance of being a carrier, not 50%? e.g. if R means not red and r means red, the expected distribution of Charles' and Diana's kids would be 25% RR, 50% Rr, and 25% rr.

In any case it's a little alarming that the director of a company with "DNA" in their name could be so far off on something that can be figured out with high school- to undergrad-level understanding of genetics and probability.

Of course it's a little more complicated since pigmentation doesn't quite follow the simple Punnett-square rules of dominant/recessive traits, but still... article is WAY off.

/I am a ginger and my father-in-law is a ginger, so my kids really did have about a 50% chance of not having a soul :-)
 
2012-12-22 09:27:09 PM

zabdorff: although if both Charles and Diana were carriers wouldn't that mean William's got a 75% chance of being a carrier, not 50%? e.g. if R means not red and r means red, the expected distribution of Charles' and Diana's kids would be 25% RR, 50% Rr, and 25% rr.


d'oh... he's not a redhead so clearly not an rr... so roughly 2/3 chance of being a carrier.
 
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