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2012-12-20 01:07:00 AM
If this was Italy that guy filming would be hanged.
 
2012-12-20 01:22:03 AM
another film school submission?
 
2012-12-20 01:25:28 AM

HexMadroom: another film school submission?


No, this looks pretty realistic.
 
Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
 
2012-12-20 01:30:05 AM

Rincewind53: HexMadroom: another film school submission?

No, this looks pretty realistic.

Could be wrong, but I don't think so.


I tell ya, it's getting to where I don't automatically trust everything on the interwebs
 
2012-12-20 01:33:59 AM
Looks like it happened just south of Everett, WA. Mukilteo, perhaps? Kudos to John Hill, whoever he is, for the steady cam.
 
2012-12-20 01:35:02 AM

HexMadroom: Rincewind53: HexMadroom: another film school submission?

No, this looks pretty realistic.

Could be wrong, but I don't think so.

I tell ya, it's getting to where I don't automatically trust everything on the interwebs


I saw this one on the local news this morning, and apparently the RR company had confirmed it. It's pretty obvious the hill had been sliding for a while, so I can see why someone might put a camera on it
 
/but yeah.... could be fake, too
//frikkin innerwebs
 
2012-12-20 01:41:58 AM
I'm sorry but I going to need a video of someone replaying the video and pointing out key things to me to prove this is real.
 
2012-12-20 01:44:25 AM
you can tell this was fake by the eagle.
 
2012-12-20 01:47:03 AM
"Wow that thing just came down and took out that......rail"
 
Lost for words eh?
 
2012-12-20 01:57:30 AM
This all could have been avoided if the train had its own landslide

/recycled joke is recycled
 
2012-12-20 02:06:07 AM
blog.amhill.net

seen hobbling away from the scene of the accident
 
2012-12-20 02:07:16 AM

twomutts: [blog.amhill.net image 175x237]

seen hobbling away from the scene of the accident


 
Well played.
 
2012-12-20 02:09:36 AM
Now if I were there, I'd be getting in my car and driving away, not getting out to take a look. Rail is still one of the big ways to transport hazardous chemicals.

Granted I grew up hearing about the 1979 evacuation of Mississauga (the city right next to Toronto) because of a train derailment.

After more explosions, firefighters concentrated on cooling cars, allowing the fire to burn itself out, but a ruptured chlorine tank became a cause for concern. With the possibility of a deadly cloud of chlorine gas spreading through suburban Mississauga, more than 200,000 people were evacuated.

Within a few days Mississauga was practically deserted, until the contamination had been cleared, the danger neutralized and residents were allowed to return to their homes. The city was finally reopened on the evening of November 16. The chlorine tank was emptied on November 19.

At the time, it was the largest peacetime evacuation in North American history, and is currently the second largest after the evacuation of New Orleans, Louisiana after the effect of Hurricane Katrina.

Due to the speed and efficiency with which it was conducted, many cities later studied and modeled their own emergency plans after Mississauga's.

Fun fact: Mississauga still has the same mayor.
 
2012-12-20 02:17:15 AM
I was expecting to see the cameraman's reflection in a snow-covered hill.
 
2012-12-20 02:26:38 AM

Serial: Now if I were there, I'd be getting in my car and driving away, not getting out to take a look. Rail is still one of the big ways to transport hazardous chemicals.

 
Granted I grew up hearing about the 1979 evacuation of Mississauga (the city right next to Toronto) because of a train derailment.
 
After more explosions, firefighters concentrated on cooling cars, allowing the fire to burn itself out, but a ruptured chlorine tank became a cause for concern. With the possibility of a deadly cloud of chlorine gas spreading through suburban Mississauga, more than 200,000 people were evacuated.
 
Within a few days Mississauga was practically deserted, until the contamination had been cleared, the danger neutralized and residents were allowed to return to their homes. The city was finally reopened on the evening of November 16. The chlorine tank was emptied on November 19.
 
At the time, it was the largest peacetime evacuation in North American history, and is currently the second largest after the evacuation of New Orleans, Louisiana after the effect of Hurricane Katrina.
 
Due to the speed and efficiency with which it was conducted, many cities later studied and modeled their own emergency plans after Mississauga's.
 
Fun fact: Mississauga still has the same mayor.
 
Heh... I was here
www.insensitivemunitions.org
Roseville, CA April 28, 1973
 
/I was a fireman
//a train full of 250lb bombs parked next to a train full of 55,000gal propane cars
///yee-freakin-haw
 
2012-12-20 03:17:43 AM

HotWingAgenda: I was expecting to see the cameraman's reflection in a snow-covered hill.


The landslide brought it down.
 
2012-12-20 03:44:55 AM
Defiantly a "wait for it" vid.
 
2012-12-20 04:07:26 AM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Defiantly a "wait for it" vid.


farkin' auto-correct.

* Definitely
 
2012-12-20 04:49:54 AM

Serial: Now if I were there, I'd be getting in my car and driving away, not getting out to take a look. Rail is still one of the big ways to transport hazardous chemicals.


There were no placards on those containers, so I doubt they were carrying anything dangerous. Looking at the aftermath, I got the impression that the containers might have been empty. Now, red placards, stand back. Orange placards, stand WAY back. White placards, run away!

I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?
 
2012-12-20 05:00:14 AM

Lukeonia1: Serial: Now if I were there, I'd be getting in my car and driving away, not getting out to take a look. Rail is still one of the big ways to transport hazardous chemicals.

There were no placards on those containers, so I doubt they were carrying anything dangerous. Looking at the aftermath, I got the impression that the containers might have been empty. Now, red placards, stand back. Orange placards, stand WAY back. White placards, run away!

I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?


There's no way the brake pipe remained connected during all that. Since it was traveling pretty slow I would say the stopping time is about right for an emergency application.
 
2012-12-20 06:16:28 AM

Lukeonia1: I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?


If they were running empty/light, sure. The trailing cars all appear to be fine. I suppose it's possible the heavier locomotives broke the linkage somewhere ahead, but...
 
2012-12-20 06:41:51 AM
Well, it delivers what it promises.
 
2012-12-20 07:24:12 AM
you ARE the weakest link, goodbye
images.zap2it.com
 
2012-12-20 07:56:39 AM

MooseUpNorth: Lukeonia1: I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?

If they were running empty/light, sure. The trailing cars all appear to be fine. I suppose it's possible the heavier locomotives broke the linkage somewhere ahead, but...


Air pressure keeps a trains brakes off. If you release the air, the brakes are applied and in this case it would 'dynamite' the brakes.

/Former Journeyman Carman.
 
Xai
2012-12-20 08:53:58 AM

AbiNormal: MooseUpNorth: Lukeonia1: I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?

If they were running empty/light, sure. The trailing cars all appear to be fine. I suppose it's possible the heavier locomotives broke the linkage somewhere ahead, but...

Air pressure keeps a trains brakes off. If you release the air, the brakes are applied and in this case it would 'dynamite' the brakes.

/Former Journeyman Carman.


Not sure of that exact model of train, but vacuum brakes are a thing of the past - they tend to fail a lot, instead each car has a brake reservoir and as soon as continuity is lost from the locomotive, the brakes apply fully on every car, at that speed it wouldn't take too long for it to stop (i'm guessing about 17mph) They also have parking brakes - spring operated and held off the wheel by air pressure - so that if the air runs out, the car does not roll away, although these only act on one wheel and do not apply anywhere near the force the rest of the brakes will achieve.

/Train driver, although not in USA
 
Xai
2012-12-20 08:57:45 AM
found a handy anim of freight train braking system in the US though - www.tarorigin.com
 
2012-12-20 09:08:40 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's pretty obvious the hill had been sliding for a while, so I can see why someone might put a camera on it


Answered my question right there
 
2012-12-20 09:24:24 AM
I'm not saying it's aliens. Well, I wasn't until the guy jumped out of the car and the video got all blurry, shaky, darted around randomly, and went in and out of focus and that's when I realized it was aliens. 
 
Somehow they always cause the video to do that.
 
2012-12-20 09:34:25 AM
I think it would have been a better video if he had climbed the mountain and turned around.
 
2012-12-20 09:49:37 AM
Cameraman's buddy was on top of that hill helping.
 
2012-12-20 10:07:31 AM

HexMadroom: another film school submission?


Don't know who filmed it, but it is not unusual if a prior train saw signs of trouble the railroad would have someone drive to the location to check it out.
 
2012-12-20 10:07:59 AM

HotWingAgenda: I was expecting to see the cameraman's reflection in a snow-covered hill.


Damnit. I just made a Fleetwood Mac reference in the last thread I was in. Was hoping to make it two-in-a-row.
 
2012-12-20 10:19:03 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Heh... I was here
www.insensitivemunitions.org
Roseville, CA April 28, 1973

 
/I was a fireman
//a train full of 250lb bombs parked next to a train full of 55,000gal propane cars
///yee-freakin-haw

 
Good God, that's scary. Just three months later, here in Kingman AZ, we lost 11 firefighters to a propane railroad car BLEVE. You're a better man than I, MMM.
 
2012-12-20 10:44:59 AM
I'd guess the vibrations of the train shook the hillside down. I was getting bored there and starting to hope that some one would walk up and throw some rocks at it.
 
2012-12-20 12:24:00 PM

Xai: AbiNormal: MooseUpNorth: Lukeonia1: I was amazed at how quickly the front half of the train stopped. Seems like it would have just broken loose and continued on a ways. Were the emergency brakes just THAT effective, or did the whole train actually remain connected?

If they were running empty/light, sure. The trailing cars all appear to be fine. I suppose it's possible the heavier locomotives broke the linkage somewhere ahead, but...

Air pressure keeps a trains brakes off. If you release the air, the brakes are applied and in this case it would 'dynamite' the brakes.

/Former Journeyman Carman.

Not sure of that exact model of train, but vacuum brakes are a thing of the past - they tend to fail a lot, instead each car has a brake reservoir and as soon as continuity is lost from the locomotivetrain line, the brakes apply fully on every car, at that speed it wouldn't take too long for it to stop (i'm guessing about 17mph) They also have parking brakes - spring operated and held off the wheel by air pressuremechanical - so that if the air runs out, the car does not roll away, although these only act on oneall wheels and do not apply anywhere near the force the rest of the brakes will achieve.

/Train driver, although not in USA


I repaired trains for more than 10 years, that is what 'carman' means. Freight trains in the US have never used vacuum brakes as far as I know unless you mean air brakes. You are mostly right in how the brakes work on trains in the US.
 
2012-12-20 01:22:36 PM

ko_kyi: HexMadroom: another film school submission?

Don't know who filmed it, but it is not unusual if a prior train saw signs of trouble the railroad would have someone drive to the location to check it out.


It's also not unusual to film trains anywhere, any time.  It's a hobby some people have.  Done a bit of it myself.
 
2012-12-20 02:10:17 PM
Mother nature saying to train, "GTFO!"
 
2012-12-20 02:59:56 PM
A second landslide has hit the southbound train
 
2012-12-20 04:14:53 PM
I'd be almost as interested in the next 8 hours or so of activity at that location.
 
2012-12-20 04:34:50 PM

pudding7: I'd be almost as interested in the next 8 hours or so of activity at that location.


Same here. I found a pretty cool video of the clean-up of an Amtrak derailment the other night and watched the whole stupid hick-narrated thing.
 
2012-12-20 04:55:38 PM

Smeggy Smurf: A second landslide has hit the southbound train


Another one narrowly missed a military building nearby while at almost the same time a landslide hit just outside Shanksville, PA.
 
2012-12-20 06:53:25 PM
Resonance evil?
 
2012-12-20 08:20:35 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Serial:
 ***SNIP***
Heh... I was here
[www.insensitivemunitions.org image 660x415]
Roseville, CA April 28, 1973

/I was a fireman
//a train full of 250lb bombs parked next to a train full of 55,000gal propane cars
///yee-freakin-haw


Yee haw is right. That must have left a good size hole where the tracks used to be.
 
2012-12-20 09:34:53 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Serial:
 ***SNIP***
Heh... I was here
[www.insensitivemunitions.org image 660x415]
Roseville, CA April 28, 1973

/I was a fireman
//a train full of 250lb bombs parked next to a train full of 55,000gal propane cars
///yee-freakin-haw

Yee haw is right. That must have left a good size hole where the tracks used to be.


No kidding. Several, in fact, and a lot of smaller ones from the 250s going off.

/When they were cleaning up, they buried about a dozen live bombs in those craters. They found them again about 20 years later when they did a major expansion of the railyards
//Hi! Remember us?
 
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