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(SacBee)   Three leading U.S. senators are shocked to discover that Hollywood movies are often historically inaccurate   (blogs.sacbee.com) divider line 72
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2012-12-19 08:33:30 PM
They say that as if we're NOT going to see the release of Jaws 19 in 2015.
 
2012-12-19 08:51:15 PM
You mean to say we didn't torture our way to bin Laden?

I don't know if POW McCain is a legitimate source of knowledge.
 
2012-12-19 08:56:49 PM

djkutch: You mean to say we didn't torture our way to bin Laden?



That's what the CIA wants you to think.
 
2012-12-19 08:58:25 PM
Wait til the next attack occurs around the world and we're force fed the line that it was an angry response to this movie.
 
/rememberbenghazi?
 
2012-12-19 09:26:49 PM
Can we still torture this guy?

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-19 09:30:45 PM
In other news, just about any idiot can be elected to public office...

 
2012-12-19 09:55:41 PM
Based  on a true story is NOT the same thing as a true story.....Creative license isn't just expected, it's welcomed. 

/Imbeciles.
 
2012-12-19 09:56:52 PM
Well, 24 isn't on anymore, so "conservatives" need more torture porn to make them feel good about violating human rights.
 
And if you can get them to cough up some dough for it, all the better.
 
2012-12-19 09:59:40 PM

NewportBarGuy: Can we still torture this guy?

 
[i46.tinypic.com image 500x332]
 
No, but we can harshly interrogate him.  We used to call this torture but we were wrong for all those decades.  (The term still applies if done to an American, however).
 
2012-12-19 11:43:44 PM
just because it doesn't fit the desired narrative from the government, doesn't mean it isn't historically accurate.
 
remember, this movie got the inside info from the 0bama administration.
 
2012-12-20 12:24:58 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: just because it doesn't fit the desired narrative from the government, doesn't mean it isn't historically accurate.

remember, this movie got the inside info from the 0bama administration.



i48.tinypic.com

Except for yours. Because you touch yourself.
 
2012-12-20 01:55:05 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: just because it doesn't fit the desired narrative from the government, doesn't mean it isn't historically accurate.
 
remember, this movie got the inside info from the 0bama administration.


so the Obama administration gave the film makers info it didn't want to be known. perfectly logical.
 
If you're brain dead.
 
2012-12-20 02:42:13 AM
Hey, the government thought that it's easy to make a binary bomb, just like in Die Hard, hence, why you can only have small amounts of liquid in your carry on.
 
They also wanted to know why our subs don't have worm drives, like the sub in Hunt For Red October.
 
2012-12-20 02:44:14 AM
the filmmakers and your production studio are perpetuating the myth that torture is effective
 
That's not a good thing.  "24" did that plenty.
 
2012-12-20 05:25:26 AM
Yeah it's called 'historic fiction,' I learned it in grade school.

/you mean Wild Wild West with Will Smiff and ... what's his name wasn't historically accurate?

/welcome to earf...shamelessly stole that from some other farker, continuing to run wiff it -- Philly
 
2012-12-20 05:25:41 AM
Three leading U.S. senators are shocked to discover that Hollywood movies are often historically inaccurate propaganda

Also.
 
2012-12-20 05:27:44 AM
well... that cleaved off the 'heart' or 'balls' symbol as I like to call it -- I can post right carets but not left >

it was philly (heart/balls), Will
 
2012-12-20 05:35:51 AM

ITGreen: Wait til the next attack occurs around the world and we're force fed the line that it was an angry response to this movie.

/rememberbenghazi?


Yep, the articles have probably already been written. Try it, you could do it yourself, you dont even need details of the event.
 
2012-12-20 05:49:30 AM
You mean the Nazi's didn't bomb Pearl Harbor?
 
2012-12-20 05:56:38 AM
Took them THIS long to figure that out

/but it's true,I saw Lincoln kill vampires
 
2012-12-20 05:57:27 AM
Sometimes it can be inaccurate

www.tagroom.com

But somewhat satisfying.
 
2012-12-20 06:05:01 AM
Nice to see in the comments on the article that plenty of Americans still revel in being torturers.
 
2012-12-20 06:52:52 AM
They think that shiat is inaccurate, wait until they see Lincoln.
 
2012-12-20 06:59:39 AM
They didn't seem to have a problem with it when Roots showed white slave traders herding black folks like cattle to capture them, rather than just bartering for them from the other black folks who did capture them.
 
2012-12-20 07:09:19 AM

djkutch: You mean to say we didn't torture our way to bin Laden?

I don't know if POW McCain is a legitimate source of knowledge.


How dare you question McCain, he saved us from that German Terrorist, saved that plane, the German Terrorists brother, and then those hackers.Didn't you see those documentaries when they were in the theater,
 
2012-12-20 07:24:06 AM

wildcardjack: Sometimes it can be inaccurate

[www.tagroom.com image 468x312]

But somewhat satisfying.


Well, in that case, it was known to be an alternate universe kinda thing.

Here's the explanation for this, for those that haven't already figured it out.
Many AWESOME things have been recorded through history. But the span of time, and the utter boredom in between the important telling points of such events, doesn't make for particularly thrilling story telling.

Michael Crichton covered that pretty well in "Timeline" when he showed Washington hiding under a blanket while crossing the Deleware, or Lincoln having a high-pitched voice.

Historical events only remain interesting if they are entertaining. That is, to the general public. So, by example... If you were to tell the story of a Scottish rebel who help win Scotland some form of freedom, you are going to have to bend the truth a bit, add in some things that never actually happened, and really make the protagonist out to be much larger than life.

In the end, history is learned by what you hear and read. And that is what people will accept as the truth.

To make another Braveheart reference... History is also written written by the victor. So, who really knows the truth anyway? May as well sit back with some popcorn and be entertained.
 
2012-12-20 07:33:51 AM
Suck on that, Mars.
 
2012-12-20 07:34:12 AM
Aha! I didn't think Lincoln fought vampires.
 
2012-12-20 07:34:29 AM
This is from the lady who brought you "EOD soldiers randomly driving around Iraq in one Humvee, alone"
 
2012-12-20 07:35:29 AM
"Hey EOD, there may be a bomb in that building but we're not sure. Hell we don't even know if there is anyone in there. How about your three man team clear the whole thing? Cool?"
 
2012-12-20 07:36:04 AM
"Hi guy disarming my bomb, I decided not to blow you up."
 
2012-12-20 07:36:54 AM
"I'm just a lonely taxi driver, not full of bullet holes!"
 
2012-12-20 07:42:14 AM
So . . . the whole hobbits/orcs/goblins/dragons/sentient trees thing is . . . historically inaccurate too?

Wait wait wait a sec. How about that quarter that appeared under my pillow? If there's no Tooth Fairy, where did that come from?

Lying bastard. You get nothing but coal from Santa this year.
 
2012-12-20 07:45:38 AM
"News" historically has been inaccurate.
 
2012-12-20 07:56:11 AM
Wait until they discover Texas schoolbooks.
 
2012-12-20 07:58:49 AM

urban.derelict: well... that cleaved off the 'heart' or 'balls' symbol as I like to call it -- I can post right carets but not left >


That's not a caret; this ^ is a caret! What you're talking about is less-than and greater-than signs (or left/right angle-brackets)... And, less-than is problematic because it's how you open an HTML tag, so things get confused and mistaken for HTML code... Use "& lt;" instead...  (Without the space between them; Fark "helpfully" tries to turn it into a real < if you type "& amp; lt;" without spaces...)
 
2012-12-20 08:01:57 AM

TommyymmoT: They also wanted to know why our subs don't have worm drives, like the sub in Hunt For Red October.


Gah!

Caterpillar drive! Caterpillar!

/the book was much better
 
2012-12-20 08:15:38 AM

Apos: Based  on a true story is NOT the same thing as a true story.....Creative license isn't just expected, it's welcomed.
/Imbeciles.


As a rule, I would ask to subscribe to your newsletter; unfortunately for us, the eventual audience for movies is goat herders who fark their flock, beat their wimmens for ... well, whatever, and pray with their collective asses aimed skyward five times a day. I don't think they care for the subtleties you pointed out - they want to remain outraged so they can justify going cray-cray and killing 'muricans.
 
2012-12-20 08:24:48 AM

durbnpoisn:
In the end, history is learned by what you hear and read. And that is what people will accept as the truth.

To make another Braveheart reference... History is also written written by the victor. So, who really knows the truth anyway? May as well sit back with some popcorn and be entertained.


Well, basically, they could've made a good film about Wallace without inventing the crap they did- like meeting Queen Isabella (who was about ten when he was killed and hadn't even set foot in the British Isles) let alone father a son with her, and King Edward slowly dying of a stroke when he was executed, or, or, well, most of the movie.
Historically speaking, history hasn't been "written by the victor". It's been written by the side that writes the most. And just about every sore losing general in history that could write his own name has written memoirs about how things would have been different "if only".
 
2012-12-20 08:28:20 AM
Just like Paul Ryan's accounting...
 
2012-12-20 08:35:10 AM

WippitGuud: TommyymmoT: They also wanted to know why our subs don't have worm drives, like the sub in Hunt For Red October.

Gah!

Caterpillar drive! Caterpillar!

/the book was much better


I thought it was a tunnel drive in the book, with 3 small propellers in each tunnel.
 
2012-12-20 08:51:24 AM

LordZorch: In other news, just about any idiot can be elected to public office...


No, it says they can be reelected over and over and over and over and over and over.

People have known these folks were stupid for a long time and keep sending them back to Washington.
 
2012-12-20 09:08:29 AM
I'm kinda with the senators here. Hollywood is far too abusive of historical fact. It's a bit insulting actually.
 
2012-12-20 09:10:54 AM

Lt_Ryan: djkutch: You mean to say we didn't torture our way to bin Laden?

I don't know if POW McCain is a legitimate source of knowledge.

How dare you question McCain, he saved us from that German Terrorist, saved that plane, the German Terrorists brother, and then those hackers.Didn't you see those documentaries when they were in the theater,


Yippie Ki Yay Motherf...wait, what?
 
2012-12-20 09:12:28 AM

cynicalbastard: durbnpoisn:
In the end, history is learned by what you hear and read. And that is what people will accept as the truth.

To make another Braveheart reference... History is also written written by the victor. So, who really knows the truth anyway? May as well sit back with some popcorn and be entertained.

Well, basically, they could've made a good film about Wallace without inventing the crap they did- like meeting Queen Isabella (who was about ten when he was killed and hadn't even set foot in the British Isles) let alone father a son with her, and King Edward slowly dying of a stroke when he was executed, or, or, well, most of the movie.
Historically speaking, history hasn't been "written by the victor". It's been written by the side that writes the most. And just about every sore losing general in history that could write his own name has written memoirs about how things would have been different "if only".


My favorite part is the Battle of Stirling Bridge. Where is the bridge? They asked Mel about that and he said "the bridge got in the way" to which the person replied "it got in the British's way as well" (or something to that effect).
 
2012-12-20 09:15:26 AM
Where's their letter to Oliver Stone?
 
2012-12-20 09:20:46 AM
So there was a reactor in the detention block? I kept wanting to call out that guy on that, because thats where I would put it.
 
2012-12-20 09:21:23 AM
And in other news, the media still expects intelligence & common sense from American elected officials.
 
2012-12-20 09:25:29 AM

Apos: Based  on a true story is NOT the same thing as a true story.....Creative license isn't just expected, it's welcomed.
/Imbeciles.


You mean like with "Murder in the First" and "Fargo"?
 
2012-12-20 09:27:36 AM

FeatheredSun: I'm kinda with the senators here. Hollywood is far too abusive of historical fact. It's a bit insulting actually.


Hollywood makes movies in order to make money. They do not make movies to educate. If you're going to see a feature film to learn history, you're doing it wrong.
 
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