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(SFGate)   America is starting to return back to normal now that the first scam artist is trying to make a buck off the Newtown massacre   (sfgate.com) divider line 53
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2012-12-19 06:15:19 PM
I don't see any evidence of fraud or intent to defraud in TFA.  Starting a fundraiser without the knowledge and permission of the family is stupid, but not necessarily a scam.
 
2012-12-19 06:36:09 PM
The Pozner family had the noahpozner.com website transferred to its ownership. Victoria Haller, Noah's aunt, emailed the person who had originally registered the name. The person, who went by the name Jason Martin, wrote back that he'd meant "to somehow honor Noah and help promote a safer gun culture. I had no ill intentions I assure you."
 
So after a national tragedy, your first instinct is to register the name of one of the victims you don't know at all to "somehow honor Noah and help promote a safer gun culture"? Fark you. Even if it isn't a scam, fark you.
 
2012-12-19 09:03:43 PM
Oh, I thought it was going to be the bulletproof backpack guys.
 
2012-12-19 09:29:47 PM
Sorry, but nobody managed to profit off a pile of kid's bodies faster than Dr. Phil.
 
2012-12-19 11:10:48 PM
I don't see an evidence america ever stopped being itself in this regard
 
2012-12-19 11:12:33 PM
Anderson Cooper's crew tracked down some lady in the Bronx doing this.

She blamed the scam site on her enemies in the crafting community.

Anderson didn't buy it either.
 
2012-12-19 11:13:11 PM

Triumph: Sorry, but nobody managed to profit off a pile of kid's bodies faster than Dr. Phil.


hehehe
 
2012-12-19 11:14:59 PM
Anyone have contacts in Anonymous who can take care of this creep?
 
2012-12-19 11:18:08 PM
Too late, Subby, the politicians got there first.

These scammers are small timers and way late to the game compared what DC is throwing up before the news cameras.

The worst of the bunch is [Insert Political Hate Preference Here].

/The 24 hour news channels are edging dangerously close to symphorophilia with Sandy Hook
 
2012-12-19 11:18:48 PM
Mainstream media is the first to scam. They really don't offer any beneficial service beyond the first 5 minutes of reporting. More 'in depth coverage' is just exploiting the victims.
 
2012-12-19 11:18:50 PM
What's all this then?
 
2012-12-19 11:20:43 PM
Sounds like some ol' fashioned bootstrappy job creation to me!
 
2012-12-19 11:24:52 PM
A special place in hell...
 
2012-12-19 11:26:35 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I don't see any evidence of fraud or intent to defraud in TFA.  Starting a fundraiser without the knowledge and permission of the family is stupid, but not necessarily a scam.


Just look at the FarkUs tab.
 
2012-12-19 11:27:52 PM
What do you expect from a country that values money and capitalism over everything else?
You get what you get.
 
2012-12-19 11:30:00 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I don't see any evidence of fraud or intent to defraud in TFA.  Starting a fundraiser without the knowledge and permission of the family is stupid, but not necessarily a scam.


So, what did you ask Santa to bring you this year?
 
2012-12-19 11:31:45 PM
But enough about Pat Robertson, subby.
 
2012-12-19 11:34:10 PM
What do you mean it's starting to return back to normal? Scammers are ready for these things right after they happen as are the some denizens of FB looking to spread the popularity of their own irrelevant photo pages (shares, likes, and comments on a photo = x # of people talking about this page). Anything to capitalize on the loss of others.
 
2012-12-19 11:40:02 PM
who, liberals?
 
2012-12-19 11:41:19 PM

NotMyAlt: Mainstream media is the first to scam. They really don't offer any beneficial service beyond the first 5 minutes of reporting. More 'in depth coverage' is just exploiting the victims.


THIS
 
2012-12-19 11:42:02 PM

Triumph: Sorry, but nobody managed to profit off a pile of kid's bodies faster than Dr. Phil.


Dr. Phil: "In the wake of this tragedy, it's hard to say what the solution is, but I have a suggestion. STOP LETTING CRAZY PEOPLE GET THEIR HANDS ON GUNS. Just stop it, and our country will be better off."

"My next guest is a 42 year old stay at home mom with a weight problem who claims her husband doesn't find her sexually attractive".........blah blah blah....

Dr. Phil: "Quit putting food in your mouth. Simple as that. I know it's not easy, and he has to come half way too, and see all the good that you bring to the table, but STOP EATING."
 
2012-12-19 11:42:57 PM

NotMyAlt: Mainstream media is the first to scam. They really don't offer any beneficial service beyond the first 5 minutes of reporting. More 'in depth coverage' is just exploiting the victims.


You forgot to mention that the first five minutes is never anything but errors and speculation.
 
2012-12-19 11:45:46 PM
Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?
 
2012-12-19 11:54:16 PM

iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.



If that happens I hope the camera's are rolling when one of the parents kicks 'em in the farking nuts.
 
2012-12-19 11:56:19 PM
"return back"? Really?
 
2012-12-19 11:56:31 PM

iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?


Ban Call of Duty.
 
2012-12-20 12:02:08 AM

Marshal805: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.



If that happens I hope the camera's are rolling when one of the parents kicks 'em in the farking nuts.


That would be nice; but, that's not how that works. Dad might be contemplating violence; but, I wouldn't be surprised if mom listens to the psychic with rapt attention and just a hint of a tear in her eyes.

/ motherhood tends to scramble the tendancy to doubt in otherwise cynical and street smart women. They will always have a blind spot where their child is concerned. And, if that child dies suddenly; mothers can get taken in by con-artists that they normally wouldn't give the time of day.

// no offence ment ladies; but, your children are your Achilles heel. It's that unconditional love thing.
 
2012-12-20 12:02:31 AM

farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.


That game sucks so I'm ok with this
 
2012-12-20 12:07:17 AM
"It's a problem as familiar as it is disturbing. Tragedy strikes - be it a natural disaster, a gunman's rampage or a terrorist attack - and scam artists move in.
It happened after 9/11. It happened after Columbine. It happened after Hurricane Katrina. And after this summer's movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colo."


  We usually refer to these scam artists as "FEMA" or the "Red Cross".
 
2012-12-20 12:08:53 AM

farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.


Great, right after I just unlocked the gold finish to the MTAR.
 
2012-12-20 12:09:06 AM
He's a bit behind the news outlets and dipshiat pundits exploiting the tragedy to promote their views and increase ratings. No real difference between this guy and Mike Huckabee, for example.
 
2012-12-20 12:09:56 AM

farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.


Video games are not corrupting the children.

If anything; the falling standards on tv are more responsible. Shiat like reality tv has replaced even semi educational shows. When people care more about Linsey Lohan's cooter flash then they do about their child eating; that's a sociatal problem.

/ even 20 years ago; shiat like the jersy shore would have never made it onto tv. Now, get off of my lawn, you damn kids!
 
2012-12-20 12:13:17 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.

Great, right after I just unlocked the gold finish to the MTAR.


Do you lose that when you prestige a weapon? I have gold on the AN-94 assault rifle and R870 MCS shotgun and don't mind losing the attachments momentarily to get xp faster.
 
2012-12-20 12:19:10 AM

farkingismybusiness: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.

Great, right after I just unlocked the gold finish to the MTAR.

Do you lose that when you prestige a weapon? I have gold on the AN-94 assault rifle and R870 MCS shotgun and don't mind losing the attachments momentarily to get xp faster.


Nope! You keep all your color unlocks when you prestige, plus you gain the ability to put an emblem on your weapon.
 
2012-12-20 12:21:12 AM
I saw an ad today for $200 armored backpacks and heartily lol'd. Yeah, THAT'LL sure keep 'em safe, mom and dad.
 
2012-12-20 12:21:59 AM
Is it the NRA trying to convince you that Obama will be taking away your guns, so donate now?

*clicks link*

Oh... Boy, was I mistaken. Sorry!
 
2012-12-20 12:25:09 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: farkingismybusiness: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: farkingismybusiness: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

/ even if you don't like guns; even if you'd like them to go away, guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. As long as people are selfish and petty; so long will people try to hurt other people.

// what makes anyone think a prohibition on guns would would work any better than one on alcohol or drugs?

Ban Call of Duty.

Great, right after I just unlocked the gold finish to the MTAR.

Do you lose that when you prestige a weapon? I have gold on the AN-94 assault rifle and R870 MCS shotgun and don't mind losing the attachments momentarily to get xp faster.

Nope! You keep all your color unlocks when you prestige, plus you gain the ability to put an emblem on your weapon.


OH BOY!!! That emblem's going to be AWESOME!!!

/thanks though. I will start prestiging my weapons.
 
2012-12-20 12:31:11 AM

gadian: I saw an ad today for $200 armored backpacks and heartily lol'd. Yeah, THAT'LL sure keep 'em safe, mom and dad.


Psh, the elementary school I went to from 1st to 3rd grade (early 90's) was in a sparsely populated location. It also only had 1 classroom for each grade. We had a big field to play in but beyond that was woodlands. During hunting season we were told to stay away from the tree lines since there were hunters out in the woods.

/I'd like to see how parents would react to that these days
 
2012-12-20 12:55:31 AM

serial_crusher: Oh, I thought it was going to be the bulletproof backpack guys.


That company existed long before this thing.

Awesome business model and I'm dead serious. What better to exploit than paranoia???
 
2012-12-20 01:05:20 AM

farkingismybusiness: BarkingUnicorn: I don't see any evidence of fraud or intent to defraud in TFA.  Starting a fundraiser without the knowledge and permission of the family is stupid, but not necessarily a scam.

Just look at the FarkUs tab.


Yeah, I saw that Newtown-related fundraiser.  Like I said there,
 
If you feel anxious about donating, don't donate.
 
If you feel anxious about not donating, donate.
 
If you learn later that it's a scam, keep your mouth shut.
 
This procedure will maximize happiness.
 
2012-12-20 01:19:25 AM

Gyrfalcon: Anyone have contacts in Anonymous who can take care of this creep?


Interesting idea. I'll have a talk with our IT people.
 
2012-12-20 01:32:46 AM

bookman: Gyrfalcon: Anyone have contacts in Anonymous who can take care of this creep?

Interesting idea. I'll have a talk with our IT people.


Don't get ahead of yourselves. You want to make sure you get the right "Jason Martin" if that is even his real name, since you can register a domain as whoever the hell you want to pretend to be. Plus the domain has been transferred to the family and is at Godaddy under private registration now.
 
2012-12-20 02:04:11 AM
Slight threadjack, but how come Drew hasn't tried to force a stupid nickname on this guy? Is it because of the crime he committed or the fact that he is dead?
 
2012-12-20 02:08:47 AM

moonage daydream: Slight threadjack, but how come Drew hasn't tried to force a stupid nickname on this guy? Is it because of the crime he committed or the fact that he is dead?


It's hard to improve on "Adam Lanza."
 
2012-12-20 02:29:21 AM

moonage daydream: Slight threadjack, but how come Drew hasn't tried to force a stupid nickname on this guy? Is it because of the crime he committed or the fact that he is dead?


I've been suggesting Emo Phillips.
 
2012-12-20 03:58:40 AM

moonage daydream: Slight threadjack, but how come Drew hasn't tried to force a stupid nickname on this guy? Is it because of the crime he committed or the fact that he is dead?


It makes sense to try to deny extra attention to someone alive. A dead kid doesn't care so much if you say his name or not.
 
2012-12-20 05:59:23 AM
Because the media hasn't been monetizing it since the first second it was reported or anything.
 
2012-12-20 06:58:22 AM

Marshal805: iheartscotch: Meh.

Now ; if some sleazy psychic tries to sell seances with the dead kids to the media, then America will be back to normal.

If that happens I hope the camera's are rolling when one of the parents kicks 'em in the farking nuts.


Actually I'm waiting for one of the victims, harassed by the media, to nut up and start shooting reporters and camera "persons". I hope they get it on tape.
 
2012-12-20 08:18:29 AM
America is starting to return back to normal now that the first scam artist is trying to make a buck off the Newtown massacre 
 
You mean, besides the NRA?
 
Ermegerd, Fartbongo is coming fer yer guns!!!    Join now and we'll protect your sacred, sacred right to own dozens of lethal weapons with no responsibility at all!!!
 
2012-12-20 09:53:08 AM

JerkyMeat: What do you expect from a country that values money and capitalism over everything else?
You get what you get.


Why is it people don't set up death registries? Problem solved.
 
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