Dusk-You-n-Me: nmrsnr: Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.I trust the source. This story has been intensely covered and scrutinized. Andrew's no schlub.
Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza. ...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers. playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.
doglover: And without reading the article I'm guessing she's got a point, probably, about how women should be more assertive and take bold actions instead of just letting themselves be victimized.
2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.
Ishkur: I've see women upset.They are anything but passive.
Gulper Eel: There's a shiatload of great reasons for there to be more male teachers, especially in elementary schools. ((csb) My dad was an elementary school teacher - the only one whose students never used construction paper for anything unless it was battleship gray.(/csb)) As far as the positives of male teachers go, massacre prevention comes in somewhere behind "can get the folding wall in the gym unstuck".
HailRobonia: Don't Troll Me Bro!: monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.So is the stuff about God being allowed back in the classroom. I love pointing out thatVatican City has 61 times the police per capita as the United States. If only they'd let God into Vatican City.To be fair, it also has the highest per-capita crime rate.
Sparky14439: The Kelly School shooter was run down and captured by two MEN - nearby construction workers who heard the gunshots, saw him shooting, ran at him, and tackled him."O'Rourke was captured when a construction worker building a school cafeteria hit him with a truck and two others wrestled away the gun.
Sparky14439: That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.
djkutch: So, the conservative position is that women are basically useless?Good to know.
nmrsnr: Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.
Dusk-You-n-Me: The first two sentences in this Charlotte Allen piece contain five factual errors. @BuzzFeedAndrew[pbs.twimg.com image 600x426]
giftedmadness: Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women. Protip: Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are. Is that such a shocker?
Polly Ester: I've been seeing screeds by gender studies harpies and eunuchs all week about the eebil man-gun-culture.And this is the article fark focuses on.Typical.
log_jammin: Sparky14439: Not only did he choose the school because he noted that there were no visible male employees or male crossing guards - apparently sitting outside the school early in the morning and noting who entered the building. The police found his written notes on each school he scouted.citation please.
BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence:Not enough God in schools.Not enough guns in schools.Not enough manly men in schools.Too many womenfolk in schools.Not enough children with guns.Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.Satan.Autism.Asperger's Syndrome.Mental illness.Video games.Quentin Tarantino.Jon Stewart.Abortion pills.Gay marriage.Atheists.LIBOR.The theory of evolution.Things that don't cause violence:Unfettered access to guns by crazy people
ongbok: There is only one woman to blame from the information that has been released to date, and I seriously doubt she was a feminist. That would be his mother.
umad: Fart_Machine: umad: Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.Yeah, it is the right that is insane. Everybody knows that the time to make drastic policy changes is when the stats have been improving for two decades (like it has been with violent crime). Maybe we should freak out and change a bunch of shiat whenever we hear about a company going out of business even when the economy is doing well too?You guys want to swat flies with nukes. YOU are the crazies here. We're going to end up with the PATRIOT act II: Electric Boogaloo thanks to you tards.You just proved his point. Congratulations I guess.Yeah, we should just shut up and go along with whatever kneejerk legislation our betters can push through while we are still emotional. That has always worked out well in the past. Fark you.
Tumunga: apoptotic: Mercutio74: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.Don't hold your breath. I've had his posts marked in Safety Orange, which I save for hopeless cases, for quite a while.Woooooo-Hooooooo!!!I do thank you for not just putting me on your iggy list. The people who ignore everyone they don't agree with, apparently have been raised in that feminized world this lady is talking about.
WhippingBoy: That's one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. The principal and teachers selfishly sacrificed themselves in order to save others. That's far more brave and "manly" than most of the men on this planet (and certainly more so than those pathetic cowards that require assault rifles or concealed weapons to feel "brave").Nice country you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing.
JonnyG: Can't we just agree that the real problem here is that a large chunk of the population is just simply messed up? Whether they're shooting up schools, arguing to carry more weapons, paying taxes to help line the pockets of big corporations, dictating countries under the cloak of democracy, or believing that an eagle snatched a baby on camera... People are messed up in the head and we, as a society, are doomed.
Lost Thought 00: That site needs banned from the internet
Don't Troll Me Bro!: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands. What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.I met some of them during the recall effort last winter. Basically they didn't want to sign the recall petition because important stuff like that should be left up to the men. Sad.
Mouser: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.
PunGent: doglover: I blame Mexican drug cartels because they play loud music so we should legalize lawn darts.Your proposal makes more sense than the National Review's, sadly.My theory is that there must, statistically speaking, be some modern US conservatives of average intelligence left...somewhere.
EmmaLou: "Helpless passivity?" This woman must've been homeschooled because teenaged girls are the complete opposite of that. I lie how the principal who rushed the shooter "seemed" to be acting bravely. From what I've heard, all of the adults were (not seemed to be) brave and did whatever they could.
ShannonKW: There were male teachers at Columbine. The coach, presumably a relatively fit and bold man, was shot dead by scrawny teens. (He accomplished some good in evacuating students, but female teachers did that too.)
Fast Moon: God dammit, what is it with the conservative obsession with victim-blaming?
Millennium: OK, so I actually agree that our society has taken on an attitude of helplessness and passivity that has indeed become extremely problematic.
Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.
mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?
david_gaithersburg: One of the few well reasoned articles on the topic.
Ed Grubermann: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark. The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy". What a leap of logic! What a worthless troll. Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women. Protip: Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are. Is that such a shocker? That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions. Nobody is saying that. Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.You don't have that piece of shiat on ignore yet? What the hell is wrong with you?
Sparky14439: log_jammin: Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.well I found thishttp://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/exclusive-kelly-elementar y- shooter-says-he-scouted-second-school/article_0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b- 98a9e0e51805.htmlIt states that he choose the school because "settled on Kelly Elementary School because it had easy access "and my other google search turned up thisYour search - "Brendan Liam O'Rourke" "crossing guards" - did not match any documents.And? I happen to work in the neighborhood. I happen to have co-workers who have kids who were attending the school at the time of the incident and were in the courtroom for the trial. I happen to work on contract with the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and Carlsbad PD and know some of the officers who arrested O'Rourke.
Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.
Fark You I'm Drunk: Phil Moskowitz: I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.Yeah, but the point is a man wouldn't react like that.
Runs_With_Scissors_: a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.Fark you.No. Seriously.Fark you.
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Mentat: Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza....there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.Arnold Schwarzenegger is a man.Arnold Schwarzenegger is muscular.Arnold Schwarzenegger can dodge bullets.Arnold Schwarzenegger is a conservative.Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Kindergartner Cop.Arnold Schwarzenegger protected his students.Ergo, schools need more Arnold Schwarzeneggers.QED
AbbeySomeone: Apos: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands. What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.*Shakes head* How sad indeed.I've known a few of them and they will straight faced tell you that if women just learned to listen then things would run smoother,not saying assertive women are to blame for anything but..
doglover: I was wrong. She was just being a coont.Oh well. C'est la news.
trivial use of my dark powers: I wondered when the assholes would get around to blaming women, though I thought it would be the eternal conservative bugaboo "feminists" rather then all women. Once again, Cons, insulting over half the population is not the way to win national elections.As to what would have happened if a couple of ex high school football playing men tried to tackle Lanza? They would have been killed. Testosterone is not an effective bullet shield.
Mentat: Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of heterosexual men.
nmrsnr: Dusk-You-n-Me: The first two sentences in this Charlotte Allen piece contain five factual errors. @BuzzFeedAndrew[pbs.twimg.com image 600x426]Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.Also, whoever wrote that piece is painfully stupid, do people just not say "wow, you're a terrible person" when they say things in public?
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