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(Salon)   Only the fine patriots at the National Review have the cojones to ID the real culprit in the Sandy Hook shooting: women   (salon.com) divider line 426
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2012-12-19 08:13:37 PM  
a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.  
 
Fark you.
 
No. Seriously.
 
Fark you.
 
2012-12-19 08:18:40 PM  
The first two sentences in this Charlotte Allen piece contain five factual errors. @BuzzFeedAndrew


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2012-12-19 08:20:04 PM  
I like that "reading specialist" is in quotes. Probably because it's not a "real job."
 
2012-12-19 08:21:59 PM  
Enough bullshiat for 31 acres.  Cheers, National Review
 
2012-12-19 08:24:55 PM  
I blame (group you hate here) because they (action you don't like) so we should (your political goal here)!
 
2012-12-19 08:28:25 PM  
I blame Mexican drug cartels because they play loud music so we should legalize lawn darts.
 
2012-12-19 08:28:43 PM  
I've heard this same excuse for why men don't go to church.
 
2012-12-19 08:31:10 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: The first two sentences in this Charlotte Allen piece contain five factual errors. @BuzzFeedAndrew


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Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.
 
Also, whoever wrote that piece is painfully stupid, do people just not say "wow, you're a terrible person" when they say things in public?
 
2012-12-19 08:33:14 PM  
Oh, and I wonder why conservatives have a hard time winning over the female demographic? I can't imagine why.
 
2012-12-19 08:35:07 PM  

nmrsnr: Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.

 
 
I trust the source. This story has been intensely covered and scrutinized. Andrew's no schlub.
 
2012-12-19 08:38:02 PM  
I don't want to sound rude or anything, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around Charlotte Allen's ten-mile deep stupidity.
 
2012-12-19 08:38:04 PM  

nmrsnr: Dusk-You-n-Me: The first two sentences in this Charlotte Allen piece contain five factual errors. @BuzzFeedAndrew


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Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.

Also, whoever wrote that piece is painfully stupid, do people just not say "wow, you're a terrible person" when they say things in public?


There's a mail fourth-grade teacher although I don't know if he was present that day. And the head custodian is male, although ditto.
 
2012-12-19 08:38:39 PM  
Also, that staff directory only lists teachers up to fourth grade, so it seems likely the school was only K-4.
 
2012-12-19 08:46:37 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: nmrsnr: Citation needed? Not that I doubt it, but anyone can underline things in yellow and say they're mistakes.


I trust the source. This story has been intensely covered and scrutinized. Andrew's no schlub.


Well, I decided to look, and in five seconds on google I found Sandy Hook Elementary's staff directory, and, what do you know?

1) Sandy Hook is a K-4 school, so no 11-12 year old boys.
2) There's a 4th grade teacher named Mr. Varga, and
3) The "head custodian" is someone named Kevin,

To be fair, since the position doesn't say "janitor" I'm going to assume the person who wrote the article didn't know "custodian" means the same thing.
 
2012-12-19 08:48:14 PM  
Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of men.
 
2012-12-19 08:50:36 PM  
There's a shiatload of great reasons for there to be more male teachers, especially in elementary schools. ((csb) My dad was an elementary school teacher - the only one whose students never used construction paper for anything unless it was battleship gray.(/csb))
 
As far as the positives of male teachers go, massacre prevention comes in somewhere behind "can get the folding wall in the gym unstuck".
 
2012-12-19 08:55:41 PM  
So, the conservative position is that women are basically useless?

Good to know.
 
2012-12-19 08:56:21 PM  

Mentat: Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of   heterosexual men.

 
true


 
2012-12-19 09:01:54 PM  
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2012-12-19 09:11:22 PM  
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2012-12-19 09:24:39 PM  
Stupid like that should be so painful it kills.
 
2012-12-19 09:28:14 PM  
Hey, Charlotte Allen, come here for a second, I got something to say to you. Imma let you finish... but I wanna show you something real quick
 
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2012-12-19 09:31:33 PM  
I wondered when the assholes would get around to blaming women, though I thought it would be the eternal conservative bugaboo "feminists" rather then all women. Once again, Cons, insulting over half the population is not the way to win national elections.

As to what would have happened if a couple of ex high school football playing men tried to tackle Lanza? They would have been killed. Testosterone is not an effective bullet shield.
 
2012-12-19 09:38:19 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: I wondered when the assholes would get around to blaming women, though I thought it would be the eternal conservative bugaboo "feminists" rather then all women. Once again, Cons, insulting over half the population is not the way to win national elections.

As to what would have happened if a couple of ex high school football playing men tried to tackle Lanza? They would have been killed. Testosterone is not an effective bullet shield.



They are not blaming women. This asserts the need for big,strong, heavily armed neanderthal males to be present in any situation for your own good and omfg think of the good of the children!
 
2012-12-19 09:51:30 PM  
Wow.  That b*tch is a f*cking c*nt
 
2012-12-19 10:03:06 PM  

djkutch: So, the conservative position is that women are basically useless?

Good to know.


They certainly don't seem to want them for sex.
 
2012-12-19 10:19:32 PM  
Hm. She may be onto something. After all, Columbine was entirely run by women, as well. And what if there had been men in the theater at Aurora? We may be on the verge of solving this violence problem, people. 
 
Also, this idiocy is getting shared all over the place, re-blogged, re-posted, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Which means that the vapid soulless biatch who wrote it has learned, as did the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter, Stern, Beck, and all the other "I'll say anything as long as it gets me coverage and money" assholes in the world did long ago, that as long as you're willing to spout the vilest stupidity you can imagine, you get attention. You get page views. You get paid. Which in the end means you get hired to write more vile stupidity. And so it goes, the circle of life.
 
The day this whore (and yes, she is a whore, not of the body but of the mind) writes something like this and gets...nothing...she dies. They all do.
 
2012-12-19 10:49:48 PM  
If they had been in the kitchen making sandwiches, they wouldn't have been there to get shot
 
2012-12-19 11:02:20 PM  
The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.
 
2012-12-19 11:15:13 PM  
Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza. 
 
...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.
 
playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.
 
2012-12-19 11:16:03 PM  

Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.


The only people who talk about feminism, for weal or for woe, are feminists. The overwhelming majority are women.

And without reading the article I'm guessing she's got a point, probably, about how women should be more assertive and take bold actions instead of just letting themselves be victimized.
 
2012-12-19 11:17:38 PM  

Mentat: Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of men.


I wonder if we can get any of our manly GOP types to volunteer to test that theory....
 
2012-12-19 11:17:39 PM  
I was wrong. She was just being a coont.

Oh well. C'est la news.
 
2012-12-19 11:21:31 PM  

Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.


I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.
 
2012-12-19 11:21:58 PM  

doglover: I was wrong. She was just being a coont.

Oh well. C'est la news.

 
We're now on the same page, my friend.
 
2012-12-19 11:23:19 PM  

Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza. 
 
...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.
 
playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.

 
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a man.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is muscular.
Arnold Schwarzenegger can dodge bullets.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a conservative.
Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Kindergartner Cop.
Arnold Schwarzenegger protected his students.
 
Ergo, schools need more Arnold Schwarzeneggers.
 
QED
 
2012-12-19 11:25:57 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.

 
 
*Shakes head*   How sad indeed.

 
2012-12-19 11:31:00 PM  

Apos: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.
 
 
*Shakes head*   How sad indeed.


I've known a few of them and they will straight faced tell you that if women just learned to listen then things would run smoother,not saying assertive women are to blame for anything but..
 
2012-12-19 11:41:20 PM  
I just did a quick Google search, turns out that it was a WOMAN who gave birth to Adam Lanza.
 
2012-12-19 11:55:14 PM  
Yes, right wing nutjobs, pissing off women is an outstanding electoral strategy.
 
2012-12-20 12:32:35 AM  
I just want to kick this woman in the taco.
 
2012-12-20 12:35:00 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Apos: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.


*Shakes head*   How sad indeed.

I've known a few of them and they will straight faced tell you that if women just learned to listen then things would run smoother,not saying assertive women are to blame for anything but..


Women and men are equally foolish.

If ya'll would just listen to ME, things would run smoother.
 
2012-12-20 01:33:12 AM  
for me, it's not so much that someone wrote that or even believes it. It's that they have a staff and a boss who read it, nodded their heads in agreement, and published it.
 
2012-12-20 01:45:17 AM  

Mentat: Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.

playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a man.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is muscular.
Arnold Schwarzenegger can dodge bullets.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a conservative.
Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Kindergartner Cop.
Arnold Schwarzenegger protected his students.

Ergo, schools need more Arnold Schwarzeneggers.

QED


We're working on it, but these things take time.

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2012-12-20 01:59:41 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.


That's astonishing. I can barely wrap my head around the most devout Southern Baptists falling for that shiat (and only because these are the same fools that deny evolution, think the world is 6000 y.o., etc)

Without the religious factor massaging their brains, I can't fathom a woman falling for that crap. Must have had really shiatty parents.
 
2012-12-20 02:27:44 AM  
I have a friend(female) who thinks that women are inferior than men and that no woman should ever be president or get into politics.
 
When I told her that a muslim woman had been the president of pakistan, I thought her head would explode.
 
2012-12-20 02:31:51 AM  

log_jammin: I have a friend(female) who thinks that women are inferior than men and that no woman should ever be president or get into politics.
 
When I told her that a muslim woman had been the president of pakistan, I thought her head would explode.


You should also tell her to shuushhhhhh, men are thinking/talking/doing stuff.
 
2012-12-20 02:33:49 AM  

namatad: You should also tell her to shuushhhhhh, men are thinking/talking/doing stuff.


That thought crossed my mind, but it's my best friends wife so I have to take that somewhat into consideration.
 
2012-12-20 02:59:42 AM  
News Flash: 80% of teachers are female!
 
2012-12-20 03:01:22 AM  

fusillade762: News Flash: 80% of teachers are female!

 
That stat is meaningless to her.  Girls suck at math.
 
2012-12-20 03:18:10 AM  

Gulper Eel: There's a shiatload of great reasons for there to be more male teachers, especially in elementary schools. ((csb) My dad was an elementary school teacher - the only one whose students never used construction paper for anything unless it was battleship gray.(/csb))
 
As far as the positives of male teachers go, massacre prevention comes in somewhere behind "can get the folding wall in the gym unstuck".


Yeah, but men have pretty much been driven out of the profession thanks to the very real fear of being accused of something by a kid and having their lives ruined because Little Johnny was pissed he got a C.
 
...yet it's mostly women and teenaged boys you hear about, not men and their students.
 
/until you get to the college level, but hey, everyone's legal there.
 
2012-12-20 03:54:51 AM  
Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak

MAXXZZIMUM TROLLING dot jpeg
 
2012-12-20 04:02:00 AM  
That teacher who died protecting her class had more guts than the write of the article ever will.
 
2012-12-20 04:03:38 AM  
I've see women upset.

They are anything but passive.


/hell, fury and all that
 
2012-12-20 04:03:52 AM  
Damn biatches should get out of the school, get back in the kitchen, and make me some farking sammiches!
 
2012-12-20 04:04:49 AM  
Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers.

Everyone is, you dumb f*ck. F*ck you.
 
2012-12-20 04:06:03 AM  
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2012-12-20 04:07:34 AM  
Self-hating twat-waffle. I'd say Bill Buckley is spinning in his grave but fark him. He was a master troll
 
2012-12-20 04:09:43 AM  
Sponsored by Mountain Dew
 
2012-12-20 04:13:57 AM  
Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.
 
2012-12-20 04:14:39 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Mentat: Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of   heterosexual men.

true


Heterosexual men who played high-school football.
 
2012-12-20 04:14:57 AM  
According to reports, she activated the school's public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death.

I was so pissed off that I missed this part. Seriously, does this dumbass think that someone with balls is going to not get shot to death?
 
2012-12-20 04:15:24 AM  
Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

She doesn't even have the mental capacity to think this through? Bullets don't go "Oh, shiat! It's a MAN! U-TURN!!"
 
2012-12-20 04:15:50 AM  
Sounds like her parents screwed her up pretty well growing up.
 
2012-12-20 04:15:53 AM  

giftedmadness: What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.


/facepalm
 
2012-12-20 04:17:20 AM  
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A winrar is troll
 
2012-12-20 04:19:05 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-12-20 04:20:22 AM  

giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.


QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.
 
2012-12-20 04:20:27 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Stupid like that should be so painful it kills.


Seriously.

Especially when you consider that accounts (pretty much all I've heard at least) are that the teachers concentrated on SAVING the lives of their students, rather than attempting to stop him and possibly getting more people killed. No one can say definitively what would have been the more effective response, but they did what they knew would save lives, to the best of their training. I'd like to see how this author would react in the same situation.
 
2012-12-20 04:21:17 AM  
You know it's bad when Mein Ten Pounds of Krusher can't even post a Democrat who said something worse 5 years ago.
 
2012-12-20 04:22:23 AM  

ladyfortuna: Especially when you consider that accounts (pretty much all I've heard at least) are that the teachers concentrated on SAVING the lives of their students, rather than attempting to stop him and possibly getting more people killed. No one can say definitively what would have been the more effective response, but they did what they knew would save lives, to the best of their training. I'd like to see how this author would react in the same situation.


This.
 
2012-12-20 04:22:26 AM  

Serious Black: I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.


I went with "shadowy conspiracy grey".
 
2012-12-20 04:25:03 AM  
Reading the article and wondering what exactly do editors do nowadays because it sure ain't editing.

Boy that whole piece is a stinker
 
2012-12-20 04:27:02 AM  
Okay, so I guess if my boys grow up to be husky when they're 11 and 12 years old, I should encourage them to gang up with all the other husky preteen boys, in the event of a mass shooting in their school, and attempt to overpower the shooter.

www5.picturepush.com
 
2012-12-20 04:27:07 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, but men have pretty much been driven out of the profession thanks to the very real fear of being accused of something by a kid and having their lives ruined because Little Johnny was pissed he got a C.

...yet it's mostly women and teenaged boys you hear about, not men and their students.

/until you get to the college level, but hey, everyone's legal there.


Came here to mention this.

My father is retired now after teaching in public schools for his entire life. He told me last year that he would tell ANY man who thought about teaching to not do it. He cited a lot of reasons - Teaching to the Test, Zero Tolerance/Zero Brain Cells, inability to keep discipline/Authority taken away from teachers in the classroom, Stupid Bureaucracy, Grade inflation pressure, helicopter parents, etc but his #1 reason was the liability and how a single pissed-off girl could not only end your career but get your ass hauled into court and jail with a single false accusation.

/Apparently that happened to a friend of his a few years ago.
//girl was pissed over grades apparently
 
2012-12-20 04:29:26 AM  

Alphax: giftedmadness: What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.

/facepalm


facepalm = nice debating
 
2012-12-20 04:30:26 AM  
If only there were another shooting, with which could be compared to Sandy Hook. A shooting which provided an overwhelming number of males as potential victims. Young males. Young virile teen males, who no doubt would exhibit that special male courage and ability to not die during a mass shooting.

Let's go to the board. Aurora shooting for 200, Alex.

8 males died, 4 females. 58 people shot. The fact that the gunman's weapon jammed probably prevented a lot more death.

Yes, a theater full of mostly young males, versed in violence and violent action, who outnumbered the shooter 400 to 1, failed to subdue and stop said shooter.
 
2012-12-20 04:31:21 AM  

giftedmadness: Alphax: giftedmadness: What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.

/facepalm

facepalm = nice debating


Who's debating? Plonk!
 
2012-12-20 04:32:22 AM  

Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.


Yes, that statement is true.  What about my statement was wrong?
 
2012-12-20 04:34:19 AM  

calbert: I just did a quick Google search, turns out that it was a WOMAN who gave birth to Adam Lanza.


tbh both parents contributed but -- was he on prescription anti-depressants?

Was his mother once employed at Sandy Hook Elementary?

Did she quit once she started raking in 289k a year in alimony for her one minor son, Adam, in 2009, the same year she was in fact training him to fire her assault rifle?

Those are the facts MSM has led me to believe are true.
 
2012-12-20 04:35:21 AM  

Alphax: giftedmadness: Alphax: giftedmadness: What a leap of logic! What a worthless troll. Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.

/facepalm

facepalm = nice debating

Who's debating? Plonk!


of course the men -- men, not children -- should step forward, if only to offer false bravado in front of the females -- and you realize you're being heroic and you try to do anything to save the day -- to impress the females
 
2012-12-20 04:36:50 AM  

Alphax: giftedmadness: Alphax: giftedmadness: What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.

/facepalm

facepalm = nice debating

Who's debating? Plonk!


um, that's exactly my point, douche.  You aren't debating, you're just being a jackass.
 
2012-12-20 04:41:25 AM  
What helpless passivity in a feminized setting may look like:

www.nypost.com
 
2012-12-20 04:43:44 AM  
How does the author remember to breath?
 
2012-12-20 04:45:00 AM  
What they were wearing may have been a factor too. If they were acting alluringly and leading him on I mean.

What I'm really trying to say is: Was it a legitimate shooting, or where they asking for it?

Because if it was a legitimate shooting I'm told by experts that some nearby manly men have ways of shutting that whole thing down.
 
2012-12-20 04:46:00 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.


Bob Altemeyer's - The Authoritarians

People often ask me two questions when they know as much about right-wing
authoritarians as I've told you so far. 1) Who scores higher, men or women? and 2)
Have scores on the scale gone up or down over the decades? Virtually every study I
know of has found men and women score about the same, on the average. Men
probably tend to be more aggressive than women, but women are supposed to be more
conventional, so it seems to even out.


Husbands have traditionally be the ones in charge. That must be for a good reason!
 
2012-12-20 04:47:08 AM  
Facepalm. The amount of sic fukers in this world never ceases to amaze me.
 
2012-12-20 04:48:13 AM  

giftedmadness: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.

Yes, that statement is true.  What about my statement was wrong?


What, does your orange brain think men caused the school to have a "feminized setting" with a norm of "helpless passivity"?
 
2012-12-20 04:48:20 AM  

milkyshirt: Okay, so I guess if my boys grow up to be husky when they're 11 and 12 years old, I should encourage them to gang up with all the other husky preteen boys, in the event of a mass shooting in their school, and attempt to overpower the shooter.


what the f*ck are we feeding these kids all this violent imagery in video games, movies, and tv for if they're not going to be heroic -- didn't they hear about the aurora shooting in July? Yeah plead guilty, no case, safe in a fed pen my ass he's an assassin with no name raping hookers in south america
 
2012-12-20 04:48:36 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Because if it was a legitimate shooting I'm told by experts that some nearby manly men have ways of shutting that whole thing down.


Nice!
 
2012-12-20 04:48:41 AM  
The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.
 
2012-12-20 04:48:53 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.

Fark you.

No. Seriously.

Fark you.


Good answer. That bullshiat article isn't even worth debating.
 
2012-12-20 04:49:07 AM  
at gunpoint.
 
2012-12-20 04:49:13 AM  
I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.
 
2012-12-20 04:51:24 AM  

Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.


Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.
 
2012-12-20 04:51:32 AM  

hamfast gamgee: Good answer. That bullshiat article isn't even worth debating.


if it was indeed hosted by 'buzzfeedandrew' and that is a real, actual link to it on buzzfeed, and buzzfeed has a reputation to uphold, if it were not true, would they let him publish it on their site?

/don't you hate it when you have to verify info yourself?
//people are f*cking stupid and nothing is ever obvious -- this kid had one hell of a motive for doing what he did -- if it was even him who did it -- i want to see testimony of everyone who was there that survived, "kids say the damnedest things" no kids speak the f*ckin truth until they're scolded for revealing something they shouldn't have said but they want to be proud of contributing something
 
2012-12-20 04:51:33 AM  

sendtodave: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.

Bob Altemeyer's - The Authoritarians

People often ask me two questions when they know as much about right-wing
authoritarians as I've told you so far. 1) Who scores higher, men or women? and 2)
Have scores on the scale gone up or down over the decades? Virtually every study I
know of has found men and women score about the same, on the average. Men
probably tend to be more aggressive than women, but women are supposed to be more
conventional, so it seems to even out.

Husbands have traditionally be the ones in charge. That must be for a good reason!


There sure is. Men can slap their biatches repeatedly until the get back in the farking kitchen where they belong damnit.

/unless they're in bed polishing their man's knob
 
2012-12-20 04:52:24 AM  
One of the few well reasoned articles on the topic.
 
2012-12-20 04:53:14 AM  

Serious Black: giftedmadness: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.

Yes, that statement is true.  What about my statement was wrong?

What, does your orange brain think men caused the school to have a "feminized setting" with a norm of "helpless passivity"?


WTF.  Please use a quote of mine that would lead you to believe that is what I think.
 
2012-12-20 04:53:48 AM  
i1172.photobucket.com
The feminization and sexism in the k-12 system is a real and serious problem and i think she is at least partially correct. It creates an environment where it is very difficult for young men to succeed and they end up socially isolated, failing, and frustrated.
 
2012-12-20 04:54:18 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.


Yeah, but the point is a man wouldn't react like that.
 
2012-12-20 04:54:49 AM  

Alphax: Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.


Would it make sense for a mass shooter to pick a school based on how tall the bell-tower is?
 
2012-12-20 04:55:01 AM  

Sparky14439: That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.


I'm sure he would have gone home and lived peacefully if he was unable to find a school lacking male employees.
 
2012-12-20 04:56:22 AM  

Fark You I'm Drunk: Phil Moskowitz: I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.

Yeah, but the point is a man wouldn't react like that.


Unless he's been feminized.
 
2012-12-20 05:00:18 AM  

Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

 
well I found this
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/exclusive-kelly-elementar y- shooter-says-he-scouted-second-school/article_0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b- 98a9e0e51805.html
 
It states that he choose the school because "settled on Kelly Elementary School because it had easy access "
 
and my other google search turned up this
 
Your search - "Brendan Liam O'Rourke" "crossing guards" - did not match any documents.
 
2012-12-20 05:00:27 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.

playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a man.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is muscular.
Arnold Schwarzenegger can dodge bullets.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a conservative.
Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Kindergartner Cop.
Arnold Schwarzenegger protected his students.

Ergo, schools need more Arnold Schwarzeneggers.

QED

We're working on it, but these things take time.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x269]


Send in the clones!

bucultureshock.com
 
2012-12-20 05:01:26 AM  
A man would bring a friggen battleship to keep his kids safe, if he could.

www.chucklebot.com
 
2012-12-20 05:05:21 AM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: [i1172.photobucket.com image 180x279]
The feminization and sexism in the k-12 system is a real and serious problem and i think she is at least partially correct. It creates an environment where it is very difficult for young men to succeed and they end up socially isolated, failing, and frustrated.


I'm going to save time and just point you toward Runs_With_Scissors Weeners in the thread.
 
2012-12-20 05:06:04 AM  
Ah, filtered into hilarity. Love ya, Fark, don't ever change.
 
2012-12-20 05:08:39 AM  
The other thing I failed to point out about the Kelly School Shooter...

Not only did he choose the school because he noted that there were no visible male employees or male crossing guards - apparently sitting outside the school early in the morning and noting who entered the building. The police found his written notes on each school he scouted.

The Kelly School shooter was run down and captured by two MEN - nearby construction workers who heard the gunshots, saw him shooting, ran at him, and tackled him.
 
2012-12-20 05:10:13 AM  

Ceiling Moran: Ah, filtered into hilarity. Love ya, Fark, don't ever change.


It's not a big deal until his weeners point towards you.
 
2012-12-20 05:12:22 AM  

sendtodave: Ceiling Moran: Ah, filtered into hilarity. Love ya, Fark, don't ever change.

It's not a big deal until his weeners point towards you.


Oh god, where are the big jocks to wrestle him to the ground before it goes off?
 
2012-12-20 05:14:51 AM  

Sparky14439: The other thing I failed to point out about the Kelly School Shooter...

Not only did he choose the school because he noted that there were no visible male employees or male crossing guards - apparently sitting outside the school early in the morning and noting who entered the building. The police found his written notes on each school he scouted.

The Kelly School shooter was run down and captured by two MEN - nearby construction workers who heard the gunshots, saw him shooting, ran at him, and tackled him.


I'm sure he would have gone home and lived peacefully if he was unable to find a school lacking male employees.
 
2012-12-20 05:16:11 AM  
So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?
 
2012-12-20 05:17:16 AM  

Sparky14439: Not only did he choose the school because he noted that there were no visible male employees or male crossing guards - apparently sitting outside the school early in the morning and noting who entered the building. The police found his written notes on each school he scouted.


citation please.
 
2012-12-20 05:17:23 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?


Taco night.
 
2012-12-20 05:18:01 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?


you should know this.
 
"Taco party".
 
2012-12-20 05:18:13 AM  

log_jammin: Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

well I found this
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/exclusive-kelly-elementar y- shooter-says-he-scouted-second-school/article_0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b- 98a9e0e51805.html

It states that he choose the school because "settled on Kelly Elementary School because it had easy access "

and my other google search turned up this

Your search - "Brendan Liam O'Rourke" "crossing guards" - did not match any documents.


And? I happen to work in the neighborhood. I happen to have co-workers who have kids who were attending the school at the time of the incident and were in the courtroom for the trial. I happen to work on contract with the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and Carlsbad PD and know some of the officers who arrested O'Rourke.
 
2012-12-20 05:19:51 AM  

Sparky14439: And?


and I can find nothing that backs up your claim and would like some sort of citation.
 
thanks.
 
2012-12-20 05:25:35 AM  

Sparky14439: The Kelly School shooter was run down and captured by two MEN - nearby construction workers who heard the gunshots, saw him shooting, ran at him, and tackled him.


"O'Rourke was captured when a construction worker building a school cafeteria hit him with a truck and two others wrestled away the gun. "
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/carlsbad-school-shooting-su sp ect-was-sane_n_1354178.html
 
still, you know those women drivers...
 
2012-12-20 05:25:56 AM  

log_jammin: Sparky14439: And?

and I can find nothing that backs up your claim and would like some sort of citation.
 
thanks.


liberals are incapable of finding their own citations and always have the need for others to provide citations without providing any citations of their own.
 
2012-12-20 05:26:52 AM  

generallyso:
Taco night.

log_jammin:

"Taco party".


Huh, interesting. So, in a way, my terrible username made at 4am as a teenager suffering from insomnia can be read to say that god is a vagina?
This is good to know.
Thank you, sirs.
 
2012-12-20 05:26:59 AM  

giftedmadness: log_jammin: Sparky14439: And?

and I can find nothing that backs up your claim and would like some sort of citation.

thanks.

liberals are incapable of finding their own citations and always have the need for others to provide citations without providing any citations of their own.


[Citation needed]
 
2012-12-20 05:28:01 AM  

giftedmadness: liberals are incapable of finding their own citations and always have the need for others to provide citations without providing any citations of their own.


I provided citations please and thank you.
 
2012-12-20 05:28:37 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: generallyso:
Taco night.
log_jammin:

"Taco party".

Huh, interesting. So, in a way, my terrible username made at 4am as a teenager suffering from insomnia can be read to say that god is a vagina?
This is good to know.
Thank you, sirs.


taco is all knowing.
 
2012-12-20 05:32:02 AM  
www.freewilliamsburg.com
 
 
Faces of meth, or a dude with a mop top and lipstick?
 
2012-12-20 05:33:52 AM  

AbbeySomeone: trivial use of my dark powers: I wondered when the assholes would get around to blaming women, though I thought it would be the eternal conservative bugaboo "feminists" rather then all women. Once again, Cons, insulting over half the population is not the way to win national elections.

As to what would have happened if a couple of ex high school football playing men tried to tackle Lanza? They would have been killed. Testosterone is not an effective bullet shield.


They are not blaming women. This asserts the need for big,strong, heavily armed neanderthal males to be present in any situation for your own good and omfg think of the good of the children!


Hey, I can't be everywhere.
 
2012-12-20 05:34:10 AM  

log_jammin: giftedmadness: liberals are incapable of finding their own citations and always have the need for others to provide citations without providing any citations of their own.

I provided citations please and thank you.


Holy sh*t, dude, why are you indulging that clown again?
 
2012-12-20 05:36:19 AM  
Those assholes just keep digging the pit deeper and deeper.
 
2012-12-20 05:36:54 AM  

Sparky14439: log_jammin: Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

well I found this
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/exclusive-kelly-elementar y- shooter-says-he-scouted-second-school/article_0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b- 98a9e0e51805.html

It states that he choose the school because "settled on Kelly Elementary School because it had easy access "

and my other google search turned up this

Your search - "Brendan Liam O'Rourke" "crossing guards" - did not match any documents.

And? I happen to work in the neighborhood. I happen to have co-workers who have kids who were attending the school at the time of the incident and were in the courtroom for the trial. I happen to work on contract with the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and Carlsbad PD and know some of the officers who arrested O'Rourke.


I happen to have an in with God. He told me you're going to Hell and that you're going to be surrounded by fat women with no teeth, flat chests, and non-existent libidos for all eternity. Sorry I can't provide proof that I actually got that message from him though. I guess you'll have to believe me naively.
 
2012-12-20 05:36:57 AM  
But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.

Where did they dig this opinion-writer up from, the times of Queen Victoria?
 
2012-12-20 05:37:06 AM  

thamike: Holy sh*t, dude, why are you indulging that clown again?


that's my only one for the night. I swear.
 
2012-12-20 05:39:49 AM  
"Helpless passivity?" This woman must've been homeschooled because teenaged girls are the complete opposite of that. I lie how the principal who rushed the shooter "seemed" to be acting bravely. From what I've heard, all of the adults were (not seemed to be) brave and did whatever they could.
 
2012-12-20 05:43:29 AM  

Ishkur: I've see women upset.

They are anything but passive.


Given the choice of getting into a physical altercation with a man or a woman, I'll take the man. Men fight for status, women fight for blood.
 
2012-12-20 05:43:36 AM  

log_jammin: giftedmadness: liberals are incapable of finding their own citations and always have the need for others to provide citations without providing any citations of their own.

I provided citations please and thank you.


lol at the huffington post being a citation
 
2012-12-20 05:44:46 AM  
This is going to be another one of those threads where people respond to gifted madness's trolling, right? Right.

I thought dark grey was a good idea for his posts but I guess I didn't take into account how it would be reading an entire page of grey.

/plonk
 
2012-12-20 05:45:47 AM  

Serious Black: Sparky14439: log_jammin: Sparky14439: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

well I found this
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/exclusive-kelly-elementar y- shooter-says-he-scouted-second-school/article_0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b- 98a9e0e51805.html

It states that he choose the school because "settled on Kelly Elementary School because it had easy access "

and my other google search turned up this

Your search - "Brendan Liam O'Rourke" "crossing guards" - did not match any documents.

And? I happen to work in the neighborhood. I happen to have co-workers who have kids who were attending the school at the time of the incident and were in the courtroom for the trial. I happen to work on contract with the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and Carlsbad PD and know some of the officers who arrested O'Rourke.

I happen to have an in with God. He told me you're going to Hell and that you're going to be surrounded by fat women with no teeth, flat chests, and non-existent libidos for all eternity. Sorry I can't provide proof that I actually got that message from him though. I guess you'll have to believe me naively.


another lib troll on fark. Lib trolls on fark outnumber any other type of trolling here.
 
2012-12-20 05:45:49 AM  

Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.


You don't have that piece of shiat on ignore yet? What the hell is wrong with you?
 
2012-12-20 05:46:35 AM  

nmrsnr: Oh, and I wonder why conservatives have a hard time winning over the female demographic? I can't imagine why.


Come on, he is just writing what everyone knows. His mom was in the kitchen and she was so happy, why, the mail man had to come in for tea every day for an hour at least!

It is just a verifiable truth that women are weak and designed to be taken care of, why they have thoughts in their silly little heads is hard to comprehend for strapping real americans like myself.

/this is how I imagine his inner dialogue must be
//except with lots of fireworks and flags waving in the breeze and orgasming women in the background
 
2012-12-20 05:46:44 AM  
I think most people are missing the point, what the article is actually trying to propose, in a roundabout way, is that modern liberalism is responsible for the tragedy. IE, the Democrats.

They've found a clever loophole in the 'this is no time to make political statements' tragedy clause.
 
2012-12-20 05:50:39 AM  
Maybe we should just round up all our women and place them in breeding camps. That way they can be properly protected by men, because all women are weak and completely unable to do anything for themselves.
 
2012-12-20 05:51:50 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.

You don't have that piece of shiat on ignore yet? What the hell is wrong with you?


herp de derp.  You don't make an argument against my debate, you just insult me.  Typical lib.
 
2012-12-20 05:52:39 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.

You don't have that piece of shiat on ignore yet? What the hell is wrong with you?


I don't have any pieces of shiat on ignore. I tag them like graffiti instead.
 
2012-12-20 05:53:16 AM  

fusillade762: News Flash: 80% of teachers are female!


Well, if they paid teachers more, more men would be willing to be teachers.
That and the whole making it illegal for men to fark their students. What were they thinking??
 
2012-12-20 05:54:27 AM  

Alphax: Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.

 
We're not talking about rational, sane people here. We're talking about people with severe mental problems. They are also often cowards who don't want to be stopped before they get to fulfill their goals of taking out as many helpless victims as they can before their guilt overwhelms them and they blow their own heads off.
 
2012-12-20 05:56:10 AM  

david_gaithersburg: One of the few well reasoned articles on the topic.


Goodbye, asshole.
 
2012-12-20 05:58:20 AM  
I think if republicans can STFU for two weeks they might be more respectable
 
2012-12-20 05:59:07 AM  
I don't know about you all, but I do not remember having any male teachers around until 7th grade.  And that was a LONG time ago.  Not one-room-schoolhouse long time ago (which were mainly female teachers as well), but pretty close.  So how long has this feminization thing been going on in elementary schools ... and right under our noses for generations!
 
2012-12-20 06:03:51 AM  
And conservatives wonder why women don't want anything to do with them.

Yeah, no, crawl back under the 11th century rock you Neanderthals came from.
 
2012-12-20 06:04:22 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Alphax: Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.

We're not talking about rational, sane people here. We're talking about people with severe mental problems. They are also often cowards who don't want to be stopped before they get to fulfill their goals of taking out as many helpless victims as they can before their guilt overwhelms them and they blow their own heads off.


I didn't say impossible.. but it just seems like if you wanted to shoot up a school, you'd have a particular one in mind before you made the decision. You know, to punish them for giving you a bad grade, or that classmate who wouldn't go out with you, something. If the particular school doesn't matter, then you're just trying to punish the World, and/or draw attention to yourself before you die a violent death.
 
2012-12-20 06:05:07 AM  
Yes, because what this country needs is more testosterone and misogyny... *rolls eyes*
 
2012-12-20 06:09:58 AM  

kxs401: I like that "reading specialist" is in quotes. Probably because it's not a "real job."


I went to the "reading specialist" in elementary school and read on an undergraduate level (I had problems with handwriting). It's not a real job, it's story time.
 
2012-12-20 06:10:56 AM  
It's a shame people can make a living writing garbage like this.

Even more of a shame there's enough of an audience to make a market for the ideas.

/Why couldn't the shooter go nuts in NRO headquarters, instead?
 
2012-12-20 06:12:39 AM  
In case no one's mentioned it:

Sandy Hook was K-4, not K-6.

Men have not been "forced out" of primary education. As a man who has taught primary I can attest that we're quite welcome generally, and they want more of us because it's widely believed among educators that the present rarity of male teachers is not a good thing.

There were male teachers at Columbine. The coach, presumably a relatively fit and bold man, was shot dead by scrawny teens. (He accomplished some good in evacuating students, but female teachers did that too.)

This idea FTFA: "Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if [...] even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza." appears out of touch with reality. Setting aside the fact that the oldest boys present were about 10, even the most devoted partisans of masculinity would not wish to see 12-year-old boys charging into gunfire, nor would any sensible person expect them to change the outcome if they had done so.
 
2012-12-20 06:13:43 AM  
culprit:
: one accused of or charged with a crime  
 
The article comes no where close to saying that women should be accused of this crime.  What a troll headline.
 
2012-12-20 06:16:59 AM  

Rambino: What helpless passivity in a feminized setting may look like:

[www.nypost.com image 524x500]


That looks like the "before" picture in a Rhinoplasty ad to me.
 
2012-12-20 06:17:58 AM  

Gato Blanco: And conservatives wonder why women don't want anything to do with them.

Yeah, no, crawl back under the 11th century rock you Neanderthals came from.


The author of TFA is a woman. Or, at least, named after one.
 
2012-12-20 06:18:50 AM  

log_jammin: Sparky14439: And?

and I can find nothing that backs up your claim and would like some sort of citation.

thanks.


There were a lot of things NOT reported about O'Rourke in the mainstream press.

He planned the attack for over a year. He bought a .357 Ruger GP100 revolver from Duncan's Gun Works in San Marcos. He said the voices directing him told him to buy the revolver and load it with hollow points.

He emailed his brother stating he wanted to kill rich white kids.

He spray painted the walls of his apartment with several words including "Kill" and "Christian" - at the time of the shooting he had actually been evicted from that apartment.

His plan was to blow up a school bus using a 15 GALLON propane tank. He was going to block the bus lane with his car, drag the propane tank under the bus, and shoot the tank from a respectful distance until it exploded. And then effect a getaway. All the schools he scouted he had made notes on escape routes and traffic patterns. The gun was just to be used to intimidate the kids to stay in the bus, and to blow up the propane tank.

The day before he went on the playground shooting at Kelly Elementary he was spotted loitering in his car, a Crown Vic, outside of Poinsettia School. A vigilant resident in the neighborhood spotted him and called the police. That person was unable to supply a license plate number but the Carlsbad PD did have a BOLO on him at the time of the shooting.

The next day O'Rourke showed up at Kelly Elementary - He had a 15 Gallon Propane Tank, a Jerry can of gas - with about 5 quarts of gasoline in it, his revolver, and a pumpkin carved like a jack-o-lantern (It was October). He had a hooded sweatshirt and his pockets were full of extra ammo in half-moon speed clips and a box of fireplace matches.

O'Rourke waited for the kids to exit the school. The Crossing Guards came out, but the buses did not show up when he thought they should. O'Rourke panicked, he thought the buses weren't showing up because somehow his plan had been discovered. He tried to throw the propane tank over the fence, but was unable to lift it high enough (15 gallons of propane in a tank weighs like 100 pounds). So he threw the gas can over the fence, and he climbed over too - with the pumpkin. He left the propane tank next to his car.

O'Rourke opened fire on the kids, shooting one handed, and holding the pumpkin up in the other hand. Several people in the neighborhood heard the shots and ran towards the gunfire, including a very large female crossing guard. O'Rourke got flustered by the adults in the area screaming at him and running toward him, plus he had to move to evade capture. He was eventually tackled by two construction workers as he tried to get back to his car.

During Interrogation O'Rourke claimed no knowledge of shooting two little girls - he steadfastly claimed he was shooting the propane tank.

All of this was reported in court, and I believe in the San Diego Reader. Except the part about the pumpkin - that only was reported by the kids on the playground.
 
2012-12-20 06:24:52 AM  

Sparky14439: He was eventually tackled by two construction workers as he tried to get back to his car.


Large men to the rescue!
 
2012-12-20 06:25:07 AM  
Husky 12 year olds to 12 year old husks in two bullets.
 
2012-12-20 06:32:43 AM  

urban.derelict: what the f*ck are we feeding these kids all this violent imagery in video games, movies, and tv for if they're not going to be heroic -- didn't they hear about the aurora shooting in July? Yeah plead guilty, no case, safe in a fed pen my ass he's an assassin with no name raping hookers in south america


Medication wearing off again?
 
2012-12-20 06:33:50 AM  
So, last I checked:

1) The Principal tried to tackle she shooter.
2) One of the teachers selflessly threw herself in the path of bullets to save her class.
3) Both were women.
4) The National Review has a really bizarre definition of "helpless passivity".
5) It takes a lot of courage to write something like this, clearly.
 
2012-12-20 06:34:26 AM  

Sparky14439: All of this was reported in court, and I believe in the San Diego Reader.


cool.
 
Now do you have anything about him choosing the school because there were no men in sight? Because all I can find in the "mainstream media" is he choose the school due to easy access.
 
Thanks.
 
2012-12-20 06:35:55 AM  

Sparky14439: He was eventually tackled by two construction workers


after being hit by a truck.
 
Why do you keep omitting that part?
 
2012-12-20 06:41:35 AM  

Ed Grubermann: david_gaithersburg: One of the few well reasoned articles on the topic.

Goodbye, asshole.


cps-static.rovicorp.com
 
2012-12-20 06:41:50 AM  

Sparky14439: There were a lot of things NOT reported about O'Rourke in the mainstream press.


The mainstream press is shockingly bad about reporting on the planet Nibiru and the benefits of chelation therapy too.
 
2012-12-20 06:48:46 AM  
...looks like everyone's mentioned it.

Isn't it nice when all the diverse idealogues of Fark can sit together and agree that someone is a douchebag? Can world peace be far off?

Sill, I hope this isn't representative of National Review's present quality. There used to be all kinds of good stuff there (some of it admittedly unintentional -- it was funny to judge from their ads what kind of mutants they thought their readers were, but you could say the same of Mother Jones). Anyway, opinions are one thing, but glaring factual errors that could be averted with 5 minutes on the Internet are inexcusable for such a magazine.
 
2012-12-20 06:48:51 AM  

Alphax: Ed Grubermann: Alphax: Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.

We're not talking about rational, sane people here. We're talking about people with severe mental problems. They are also often cowards who don't want to be stopped before they get to fulfill their goals of taking out as many helpless victims as they can before their guilt overwhelms them and they blow their own heads off.

I didn't say impossible.. but it just seems like if you wanted to shoot up a school, you'd have a particular one in mind before you made the decision. You know, to punish them for giving you a bad grade, or that classmate who wouldn't go out with you, something. If the particular school doesn't matter, then you're just trying to punish the World, and/or draw attention to yourself before you die a violent death.


O'Rourke chose the "softest" target he could find. He was a coward. He was a afraid that a man or men would stop him before he could complete his plan. He wanted to blow up a school bus of Kindergarteners. And exactly what he feared happened - two men ran him down and captured him.

He had NO (ZERO) ties to anyone in Carlsbad or Southern California. He had grown up in the midwest - and had moved to California to get away from the "conspiracy" that was after him in Illinois. He was a loner and worked in a Call Center for a company that provides arcade games to taverns.
 
2012-12-20 06:49:18 AM  
Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?
 
2012-12-20 06:50:05 AM  

orbister: Sparky14439: There were a lot of things NOT reported about O'Rourke in the mainstream press.

The mainstream press is shockingly bad about reporting on the planet Nibiru and the benefits of chelation therapy too.


Lol,either back that shiat up with links or gtfo.
 
2012-12-20 06:51:28 AM  

ShannonKW: ...looks like everyone's mentioned it.

Isn't it nice when all the diverse idealogues of Fark can sit together and agree that someone is a douchebag? Can world peace be far off?

Sill, I hope this isn't representative of National Review's present quality. There used to be all kinds of good stuff there (some of it admittedly unintentional -- it was funny to judge from their ads what kind of mutants they thought their readers were, but you could say the same of Mother Jones). Anyway, opinions are one thing, but glaring factual errors that could be averted with 5 minutes on the Internet are inexcusable for such a magazine.


This is higher quality than their average.
 
2012-12-20 06:52:42 AM  

A Terrible Human: orbister: Sparky14439: There were a lot of things NOT reported about O'Rourke in the mainstream press.

The mainstream press is shockingly bad about reporting on the planet Nibiru and the benefits of chelation therapy too.

Lol,either back that shiat up with links or gtfo.


You want links to a lack of coverage of crack pot ideas? Sure. Here's an initial list:

Let me know if you want more.
 
2012-12-20 06:55:09 AM  

mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?


Stupid people are, more or less by definition, less well equipped to deal with change. Change in the world or change in their own ideas. They therefore have a tendency to cling desperately to simplistic ideas, and since modern conservatism is full of simplistic ideas, the stupid are naturally attracted to it.

It's not exclusive, though. There are plenty of stupid people on the far left, or in nationalist parties, for precisely the same reason.
 
2012-12-20 06:55:23 AM  

mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?


Something something Kenyan Muslim.
 
2012-12-20 06:59:53 AM  
God dammit, what is it with the conservative obsession with victim-blaming? It's like criminals are just this force of nature who we neither can nor should do anything about and who are in no way culpable for their actions. Everything bad happens because the victims (especially if they're women) did something wrong. "If only they'd been armed". "If only they hadn't been girls". "If only they'd been smart enough to do this or that".

Fark that, it's "If only a nutcase hadn't decided to steal his mother's guns and take his frustrations out on a class of 6 year-olds." It's the criminal's fault. It's always the criminal's fault. It does not matter who the victim was, because the criminal is fully responsible for taking the impetus to act. We're obsessed with putting forward policies to prevent the creation of victims, but we're relatively silent concerning policies to prevent the creation of criminals.

(and if this person is trying to blame the feminization of society, try pointing out the gender of the vast majority of the shooters in these incidents. Although, their response would probably be along the lines, "That's because women don't have the guts to do something like this," like it's a bad thing)
 
2012-12-20 07:00:11 AM  

A Terrible Human: orbister: Sparky14439: There were a lot of things NOT reported about O'Rourke in the mainstream press.

The mainstream press is shockingly bad about reporting on the planet Nibiru and the benefits of chelation therapy too.

Lol,either back that shiat up with links or gtfo.



Like I said. I am the source. I live and work in the community. I work for the PD. I know kids in the school. I know the ADA. I even know the guy who sold him the pistol!

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2012/apr/18/citylights2-brendan-or o urke/

"O'Rourke rejected Jefferson Elementary. The fences were too high and the adjoining streets too traffic-clogged for a fast getaway, and he noted the adult male crossing guard. O'Rourke also considered Poinsettia Elementary. His car, a light-colored Crown Victoria, was seen there one day before the shooting."
 
2012-12-20 07:01:44 AM  
Conservatism: Where women are only good for washing dishes and men are only good for catching bullets. Thank fark there's a large enough portion of the country with a less depressing worldview.
 
2012-12-20 07:04:55 AM  

mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?


I thought I already linked to this.
 
2012-12-20 07:05:19 AM  
There's been a veritable  tsunami  of conservative derptitude this year.

I hope 2013 is just as memorable.
 
2012-12-20 07:05:31 AM  
The essential problem was a lack of door control.

So let's ban some form of weapon.

/Root failure analysis
 
2012-12-20 07:11:10 AM  
Sounds Michael Moore been writing for National Review

."Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the Sept. 11 planes were scaredy cats because they were mostly white," Alibhai-Brown writes. "If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody."
 
2012-12-20 07:11:35 AM  
Well damn....Here I was all set to blame sight words.
 
2012-12-20 07:12:05 AM  

Gulper Eel: There's a shiatload of great reasons for there to be more male teachers, especially in elementary schools. ((csb) My dad was an elementary school teacher - the only one whose students never used construction paper for anything unless it was battleship gray.(/csb))

As far as the positives of male teachers go, massacre prevention comes in somewhere behind "can get the folding wall in the gym unstuck".


As a former male elementary school teacher, there are a shiatload of great reasons. There's also the fact that about 70% of the teachers and admins automatically challenge your authority or assume you're a child molester.
 
2012-12-20 07:16:48 AM  

mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?


Seriously? I think it's mainly a problem of not being able to slap down your own, so when they run riot there's no one to rein them in. And, of course your opponents aren't going to stop them making a mockery of your cause.

The same thing happens to liberals. Remember Afrocentrism, just to take one example. You had these nut-jobs rewriting history and generally being schizophrenic in public, and the liberals just had to grin a bear it because they needed them for the votes. Well, now it looks like conservatives are getting their chance to facepalm over drunk relatives.

There's nothing wrong with people who favor restraint and traditionalism in matters of policy any more than there is with those who favor new approaches with a view to improve things. The sincere moderates on both sides of the divide are sane and well-meaning. It's too bad that they find it so hard to compromise and work together because we let raving freaks polarize us.
 
2012-12-20 07:17:15 AM  

Sparky14439: O'Rourke chose the "softest" target he could find. He was a coward. He was a afraid that a man or men would stop him before he could complete his plan. He wanted to blow up a school bus of Kindergarteners. And exactly what he feared happened - two men ran him down and captured him.

He had NO (ZERO) ties to anyone in Carlsbad or Southern California. He had grown up in the midwest - and had moved to California to get away from the "conspiracy" that was after him in Illinois. He was a loner and worked in a Call Center for a company that provides arcade games to taverns.


I have to admit that a lot of what you've posted about this guy (presuming it's true) would have sent up all kinds of red flags to me. The fact that nobody seems to have known that he suffers from paranoid schizophrenia or reported the creepy things about him to the police is astonishing. I don't know anyone who spray paints their apartment walls, and even if I did, the words "Kill" and "Christian" would be HUGE giveaways. I don't know anyone who is such a loner that they literally have zero contact with their coworkers. And what about his family? If they didn't hear from him in weeks, let alone months or years, that would be incredibly strange to me. I'm baffled as to how nobody ever reported these kinds of things to somebody...whether its the police or just their boss. The breakdown that let him live for what I presume is at least a year without someone talking to him, suggesting he get help, trying to be a friend, etc., is just unbelievable. Not that anyone is responsible for the attack other than him, but still, someone should have said something.

Beyond that, he is exactly the kind of person who an affirmative mental health certification requirement would have caught and prevented from buying a gun. And it probably would have saved him a trip to jail and get him the help he obviously needs to live a balanced life.
 
2012-12-20 07:18:13 AM  

giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark. The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy". What a leap of logic! What a worthless troll. Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women. Protip: Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are. Is that such a shocker? That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions. Nobody is saying that. Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.


Except that the women are to blame for failing to stop it. They ARE responsible for it.
 
2012-12-20 07:19:51 AM  
Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.

So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.
 
2012-12-20 07:21:04 AM  
I just heard NPR last week complaining about lack of male teachers in schools.
 
2012-12-20 07:21:47 AM  
Oh, good freaking grief.

OK, so I actually agree that our society has taken on an attitude of helplessness and passivity that has indeed become extremely problematic. It might even have played a role in magnifying damage here. But to call this passivity "essentially feminine" is ludicrous, and to start drawing conclusions about male and female authority based on this ridiculous assumption is even worse.
 
2012-12-20 07:26:17 AM  
Oh, yay! Mr. Vasoline is here to out-troll the trolls!
 
2012-12-20 07:27:08 AM  
We should use genetics to breed human-halibut hybrids, because halibuts can change gender when needed.

We can also breed Glocks built right into the right hand.
 
2012-12-20 07:27:31 AM  

Mouser: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.

So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.


Gay.
 
2012-12-20 07:27:59 AM  

Sparky14439: Like I said. I am the source. I live and work in the community. I work for the PD. I know kids in the school. I know the ADA. I even know the guy who sold him the pistol!


That's very ... convincing. I'll tell the Queen when I have lunch with her tomorrow.
 
2012-12-20 07:32:07 AM  

giftedmadness: Serious Black: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

QFTA: "But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

I'm really glad your posts show up in bright orange now.

Yes, that statement is true.  What about my statement was wrong?


Being bigger and stronger does nit protect tou from bullets, ass.

The principal, a woman, leapt from her chair toward the shooting and died trying to stop the shooter.

Ass.
 
2012-12-20 07:37:17 AM  

doglover: I blame (group you hate here) because they (action you don't like) so we should (your political goal here)!


doglover: I blame Mexican drug cartels because they play loud music so we should legalize lawn darts.


I like the way you think.
 
2012-12-20 07:40:42 AM  
Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.
 
2012-12-20 07:42:04 AM  

Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.


Adam Lanza, now there was a man.
 
2012-12-20 07:46:21 AM  

Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.

You put in mind of one of those people who has crazy ass self written signs on their cars or the people who sit with signs saying Hell is Hot. You wanna stir shiat but you're also a little out there. Mental illness and misogyny isn't a good mix.
 
2012-12-20 07:48:47 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.

Adam Lanza, now there was a man.


And James Holmes too. He was a man's man.
 
2012-12-20 07:50:37 AM  
Completely stupid. No matter how jacked you are, no matter how built you are, you don't "rush" an active shooter, unless you like dying. No achievable amount of muscle mass will stop a bullet.

Using Flight 93 is an extremely retarded analogy. The terrorists on 9-11 did not have guns!
 
2012-12-20 07:51:45 AM  

Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.


I agree. That's why we should outlaw guns entirely, and go back to beating each other with clubs. Or bare-fisted boxing.

Now that's manly. Hiding behind a killing machine? Pussy.
 
2012-12-20 07:52:30 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.


There are German films that cater towards that sort of thing, if that's your kink.
 
2012-12-20 07:53:06 AM  
Alright fine, I take it back.

If you are a Krogan Battlemaster with a mass effect shield and biotics, then you can charge an active shooter.

Sandy Hook needs Krogan bodyguards.
 
2012-12-20 07:54:20 AM  
Ho-lee fark. Just doesn't get much dumber than this.

Yea, a dude can totally take a bullet better than some dumb broad.
 
2012-12-20 07:56:33 AM  
Has anyone pointed out yet that there WAS a strong tough-guy male involved here?

He's the one that shot the kids.
 
2012-12-20 08:00:32 AM  

EmmaLou: "Helpless passivity?" This woman must've been homeschooled because teenaged girls are the complete opposite of that. I lie how the principal who rushed the shooter "seemed" to be acting bravely. From what I've heard, all of the adults were (not seemed to be) brave and did whatever they could.


The sad part of that to me is that 'what they could' do was cower and try to hide because they were completely defenseless.

ShannonKW: There were male teachers at Columbine. The coach, presumably a relatively fit and bold man, was shot dead by scrawny teens. (He accomplished some good in evacuating students, but female teachers did that too.)


Because when one person without a weapon tries to fight two people who have guns, it usually doesn't go so well for the one without a weapon.

Fast Moon: God dammit, what is it with the conservative obsession with victim-blaming?


It's not victim blaming to say that it is tragic that the adults in that situation lacked any capacity at all to respond to the situation with any level of defense and that their only options were to get shot first.

Lanza shot himself as sirens approached. As soon as he knew that people with guns who could stop him were coming, he killed himself. If Newtown was like where I grew up and police response time was 30 minutes to an hour, how high would the body count be then?

Millennium: OK, so I actually agree that our society has taken on an attitude of helplessness and passivity that has indeed become extremely problematic.


It's not 'male' or 'female', but the passive helplessness (I've heard it called passive compliance as well) doesn't help anyone. Spree shooters like this do not stop until they either are stopped by someone or know that they're about to meet armed resistance. Columbine is the only outlier here, and that's because it wasn't planned as a spree shooting. It was a failed bombing, and when Harris and Klebold realized that he bombing was a failure, they killed themselves.

Every other case ends because eventually the criminal isn't the only one who's armed and they sure as shiat do not want a fair fight.
 
2012-12-20 08:03:43 AM  
There is only one woman to blame from the information that has been released to date, and I seriously doubt she was a feminist. That would be his mother.
 
2012-12-20 08:04:28 AM  

Farce-Side: Ho-lee fark. Just doesn't get much dumber than this.

Yea, a dude can totally take a bullet better than some dumb broad.


Well, it's more that it's their job to do so.

That, along with fixing things, and killing spiders.
 
2012-12-20 08:07:36 AM  

Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.


Nope.

http://m.nctimes.com/mobile-touch-2/?disableTNStatsTracker=1&asset=0f 5 f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b-98a9e0e51805#0f5f3e1e-f223-5eed-a48b-98a9e0e51805

Easy access != male figures.
 
2012-12-20 08:07:50 AM  
YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES
 
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-20 08:09:39 AM  

heili skrimsli: Millennium: OK, so I actually agree that our society has taken on an attitude of helplessness and passivity that has indeed become extremely problematic.

It's not 'male' or 'female', but the passive helplessness (I've heard it called passive compliance as well) doesn't help anyone. Spree shooters like this do not stop until they either are stopped by someone or know that they're about to meet armed resistance. Columbine is the only outlier here, and that's because it wasn't planned as a spree shooting. It was a failed bombing, and when Harris and Klebold realized that he bombing was a failure, they killed themselves.

Every other case ends because eventually the criminal isn't the only one who's armed and they sure as shiat do not want a fair fight.


So let's outfit ourselves in kevlar body armor and helmets, and let's arm everyone with grenade launchers and automatic rifles. Oh, and we might as well give everyone a gas mask too just in case they decide to use a toxic gas grenade. There's no way that could possibly start an arms race.
 
2012-12-20 08:09:58 AM  
This woman does not speak for me. Assuming I had no kids in the school, I'd have been out of there so fast it would have created a sonic boom.
 
2012-12-20 08:11:52 AM  

heili skrimsli: fair fight


Escalation.
 
2012-12-20 08:13:41 AM  

Jackson Herring: YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES

[i.imgur.com image 453x521]


Classy.

(Am I really supposed to be convinced to buy one of their firearms because they insult my masculinity if I don't? Is that really their ad campaign strategy?)
 
2012-12-20 08:14:58 AM  

born_yesterday: Jackson Herring: YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES

[i.imgur.com image 453x521]

Classy.

(Am I really supposed to be convinced to buy one of their firearms because they insult my masculinity if I don't? Is that really their ad campaign strategy?)


cdn.ammoland.com
 
2012-12-20 08:16:10 AM  

Jackson Herring: born_yesterday: Jackson Herring: YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES

[i.imgur.com image 453x521]

Classy.

(Am I really supposed to be convinced to buy one of their firearms because they insult my masculinity if I don't? Is that really their ad campaign strategy?)

[cdn.ammoland.com image 600x389]


I had originally thought that man-card was for tractors or something. That is beyond pathetic.
 
2012-12-20 08:17:29 AM  
Is this mysoginy or sexism? And no I'm not giving them any clicks.
 
2012-12-20 08:17:58 AM  

doglover: I blame Mexican drug cartels because they play loud music so we should legalize lawn darts.


Your proposal makes more sense than the National Review's, sadly.

My theory is that there must, statistically speaking, be some modern US conservatives of average intelligence left...somewhere.
 
2012-12-20 08:19:44 AM  

born_yesterday: Jackson Herring: YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES

[i.imgur.com image 453x521]

Classy.

(Am I really supposed to be convinced to buy one of their firearms because they insult my masculinity if I don't? Is that really their ad campaign strategy?)


Yes. If you are a typical gun owner, that is supposed to be your motivation to own a weapon.

Because it's cool and manly.
 
2012-12-20 08:20:54 AM  

PunGent: doglover: I blame Mexican drug cartels because they play loud music so we should legalize lawn darts.

Your proposal makes more sense than the National Review's, sadly.

My theory is that there must, statistically speaking, be some modern US conservatives of average intelligence left...somewhere.


Yeah, he's named Obama.
 
2012-12-20 08:21:11 AM  

Jackson Herring: born_yesterday: Jackson Herring: YOU TELL 'EM, TPIPES

[i.imgur.com image 453x521]

Classy.

(Am I really supposed to be convinced to buy one of their firearms because they insult my masculinity if I don't? Is that really their ad campaign strategy?)

[cdn.ammoland.com image 600x389]


Talk about overcompensating for a tiny penis.
 
2012-12-20 08:25:10 AM  
The conservative position is to throw crazy shiat like this out there and hope the crazy shiat sticks.Anything to distract from the real reason for the carnage,our lax gun laws.
 
2012-12-20 08:26:33 AM  

heili skrimsli: ShannonKW: There were male teachers at Columbine. The coach, presumably a relatively fit and bold man, was shot dead by scrawny teens. (He accomplished some good in evacuating students, but female teachers did that too.)

Because when one person without a weapon tries to fight two people who have guns, it usually doesn't go so well for the one without a weapon.


No argument here. Was merely pointing out that masculinity, fitness, and aggression don't count for much in the sort of situation the author was recommending them for. When you're unarmed and facing an active, competent shooter, being male just gives him a bigger torso to aim at.

Evidently, the real hero at Sandy Hook was the active shooter protocol which got armed officers on the spot ASAP. Short of armed staff or some accident of fate, I can't think of anything that would have cut the shooting spree off sooner.
 
2012-12-20 08:28:33 AM  
These people are totally unhinged
 

kxs401: I like that "reading specialist" is in quotes. Probably because it's not a "real job."

 
Also this.

 
2012-12-20 08:35:09 AM  
Everyone knows men are more bullet proof than women.
 
2012-12-20 08:35:37 AM  
Apos [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 11:02:20 PM

The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.


Why?

Oh, yeah. Nothing is ever more offensive than the truth. Keep the panties bunched up all day for maximum effect.
 
2012-12-20 08:38:45 AM  
I'm sure having a couple of men would have helped. The protective instinct would be a huge factor here, as long as they didn't take a bullet to the head or the heart. A large man would definitely have a better chance than a waifish woman with not enough strength to even disarm the guy if she could get close enough.
 
2012-12-20 08:39:42 AM  

Mentat: Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Kindergartner Cop.


I like the part in the show where the kids evaluated new toys coming on the market and put them in quadrants based on fun and education.
 
2012-12-20 08:40:09 AM  

Serious Black: So let's outfit ourselves in kevlar body armor and helmets, and let's arm everyone with grenade launchers and automatic rifles. Oh, and we might as well give everyone a gas mask too just in case they decide to use a toxic gas grenade. There's no way that could possibly start an arms race.


So, what's your alternate suggestion for how to deal with an armed attacker?

SkunkWerks: Escalation.


Someone's already shooting at you. Shooting back is not 'escalation'.

ShannonKW: Evidently, the real hero at Sandy Hook was the active shooter protocol which got armed officers on the spot ASAP. Short of armed staff or some accident of fate, I can't think of anything that would have cut the shooting spree off sooner.


Yeah, the cops did a good job of getting there as fast as they could to put an end to things. I just can't help looking at situations like this and thinking that it is not a good idea to create huge areas of undefended people without the means to defend themselves. It's the same principle that says to me walking naked with fistfuls of cash through known gang territory at 3 am is a bad idea - yeah, it's their fault if they rape and rob me, although I don't need to go out of my way to give them a target.
 
2012-12-20 08:40:14 AM  
Well it sure took them a while to come up with a new talking point.

- It's really a mental health issue and has nothing to do with guns
- You libtards don't know crap about guns so STFU
- It's politically and practically impossible to control guns
- If regular folks can't have AR-15s, tyranny's a-coming
- If guns were banned, mass murderers would just use sharpened carrots
- RAMPAGING HOGS
- Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio
 
2012-12-20 08:40:26 AM  
Conservatives are really showing their true colors in the wake of this massacre. There's no hypothetical response to this shooting that is more disgusting than the ones championed by the right. They truly worship the notion of being the most awful people they can possibly be.
 
2012-12-20 08:41:56 AM  
www.wickedrides.com.au
 
We need to go DEEPER.
 
BBBBWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM
 
2012-12-20 08:43:17 AM  
 
2012-12-20 08:44:34 AM  

heinekenftw: Completely stupid. No matter how jacked you are, no matter how built you are, you don't "rush" an active shooter, unless you like dying. No achievable amount of muscle mass will stop a bullet.

Using Flight 93 is an extremely retarded analogy. The terrorists on 9-11 did not have guns!


My logical part of thebrain says that a moving target is much harder to hit than a stationary one. Shooting a gun and HITTING a moving target is not as easy as it seems.

My non-rational animal part says that I've never been in such a situation (and hopefully never will), so I really have no idea what the fark I would do.
 
2012-12-20 08:45:53 AM  
Someone made an argument so that I can't grab the guns of law abiding citizens who I force through my social legislation to live in dangerous neighborhoods full of the results of that legistlation- TRRRROOOOLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!! RAAACCCISSSSSST!!!! MYSGOGINIIIIIISSSSSSTTT!!!!!

/the liberal butt hurt in this thread is just wonderous
 
2012-12-20 08:46:34 AM  

heili skrimsli: Shooting back is not 'escalation'.


All guns are not created equal, apparently.
 
2012-12-20 08:47:08 AM  
Ah, another Hero Complex woman, who thinks that Men Are Awesome At Getting Shot and are Completely Expendable Bullet Sponges For Protecting Women With Their Bullet Absorbing Bodies.

Got news for ya, chica- it's 2012, that means that when people start shooting, I hit the ground and expect you'll do the same- I do NOT jump in front of you to shield you from bullets with my soft, fleshy body. You don't want me to see you just as a set of tits and a warm wet hole, don't then see me as an expendable hero character who dies nobly for nothing so you can go down on a live middle manager to try and see if you can get a raise and finally afford that BMW you've always wanted.

Nah, I'm too busy with my own pathetic middle-manager aspirations, TYVM. Nobility will get you a statue in the park, but dogged pursuit of short-term and long-term goals gets you head from other aspiring career types. I don't need a statue.
 
2012-12-20 08:48:21 AM  

heili skrimsli: Yeah, the cops did a good job of getting there as fast as they could to put an end to things. I just can't help looking at situations like this and thinking that it is not a good idea to create huge areas of undefended people without the means to defend themselves. It's the same principle that says to me walking naked with fistfuls of cash through known gang territory at 3 am is a bad idea - yeah, it's their fault if they rape and rob me, although I don't need to go out of my way to give them a target.


No offense, but did you seriously mean that? So, any areas where "large numbers of people gather" should now include armed guards? Shopping malls, restaurants, churches, schools, office buildings, food courts, every building and every single street in the country should have armed guards posted or armed civilians (or we'll never be safe)?

If this is the case, I think we can safely say that your patellar reflex is doing just fine.
 
2012-12-20 08:49:42 AM  

Serious Black: Talk about overcompensating for a tiny penis.


Nobody buys .223 to compensate for tiny penis. If you want to compare firearms with cars, a gun like the Bushmaster isn't the analogue of the sort of car one keeps in order to make a display of his masculinity. A car like a Hummer or Ferrari is more comparable to, say, the Barrett .50cal rifle or one of those "Street Sweeper"-style shotguns with the huge magazine--powerful and expensive machines the capabilities of which are wasted on all but a few of their owners.

Something like the Bushmaster is better compared to one of those Icy Hot Stuntaz-style cars with lots of chrome and sport car bodywork on the outside and a plain 4-banger under the hood. (Someone needs to shop a hipster with his piece--with lots of added "bling"--under the caption, "Str8 BALLIN!")
 
2012-12-20 08:49:52 AM  
What's with the annoying trend of bloggers grabbing random Twitter screencaps and stacking them to the point where they cover more space than the actual article text?
 
2012-12-20 08:51:09 AM  

Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio


More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.
 
2012-12-20 08:51:17 AM  
In fairness, if there was a single overweight male, he could have lunged and fallen on top of the shooter after being gunned down and it would have prevented all of this. Also, a meteor could have blasted the shooter to smithereens, but it is what it is.
 
2012-12-20 08:54:23 AM  
www.bundyology.com
 
2012-12-20 08:56:30 AM  
Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.

So you would have to have the "right," kind of man in the school if that was going to be your plan of action.

Popping some popcorn, and putting a clip in my AR-15 to see where this thread goes.
 
2012-12-20 08:56:47 AM  

Sparky14439: His plan was to blow up a school bus using a 15 GALLON propane tank. He was going to block the bus lane with his car, drag the propane tank under the bus, and shoot the tank from a respectful distance until it exploded.


So, I take it this wacko never watched Mythbusters?

/Or, was he armed with a minigun with incendiary rounds?
 
2012-12-20 08:58:59 AM  

SkunkWerks: Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio

More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.


Earlier in this thread the obvious solution was construction workers. Now I'm all confused.
 
2012-12-20 09:00:32 AM  

2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.


Also known as 'sane men'.
 
2012-12-20 09:01:32 AM  

apoptotic: SkunkWerks: Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio

More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.

Earlier in this thread the obvious solution was construction workers. Now I'm all confused.


Why not tranny construction workers?
 
Just because Biff builds houses all day doesn't mean he doesn't want to be pretty.
 
2012-12-20 09:03:13 AM  

Alphax: 2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.

Also known as 'sane men'.


I can't believe you bit!
 
2012-12-20 09:05:23 AM  

born_yesterday: Alphax: 2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.

Also known as 'sane men'.

I can't believe you bit!


There really is no troll so bad that it won't get bites around here.
 
2012-12-20 09:05:24 AM  
Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.
 
2012-12-20 09:05:29 AM  

born_yesterday: Alphax: 2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.

Also known as 'sane men'.

I can't believe you bit!


The thread is cross posted to Main, and I don't recognize the handle, so I'll treat him as serious for the moment. Poe's Law in effect.
 
2012-12-20 09:05:48 AM  
So why is this woman writing National Review articles? That's MAN'S WORK.
 
2012-12-20 09:07:44 AM  
The things conservatives say lately make no political sense to say unless they intend to repeal women's suffrage.
 
2012-12-20 09:07:46 AM  

Weaver95: Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza. 
 
...there would have been a bunch of dead jocks mixed in with the dead kids and teachers.
 
playing high school football does not give you mystical immunity to bullets for the rest of your life.


If the principal who rushed the shooter had been a man he would have avoided the gunfire. See, the principal in this case had to deal with all sorts of problems that prevented her from saving lives: needing to check her makeup before she intervined, having to keep a shorter stride to maintain modesty in a skirt, and stopping to jump on a chair because she thought she saw a mouse. Besides, you try to run in heels.
 
2012-12-20 09:07:55 AM  
I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took a bucket to the knee.
 
2012-12-20 09:08:34 AM  

heili skrimsli: I just can't help looking at situations like this and thinking that it is not a good idea to create huge areas of undefended people without the means to defend themselves. It's the same principle that says to me walking naked with fistfuls of cash through known gang territory at 3 am is a bad idea - yeah, it's their fault if they rape and rob me, although I don't need to go out of my way to give them a target.


I feel somewhat the same way. It's why I approve of CCW permits. Regardless of its record at dealing with violent crime, I'd like to have some option other than hiding in a closet. But that's personal sentiment. As a matter of public policy, there are shortcomings. Spree killings are statistically quite rare whereas schools are quite widespread. It would only take a handful klutzes, hotheads, and idiots to cancel out all the hypothetical lifesaving goodness of having armed staff in such places, assuming there were any.
 
2012-12-20 09:08:52 AM  
Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.
 
2012-12-20 09:10:49 AM  

doglover: And without reading the article I'm guessing she's got a point, probably, about how women should be more assertive and take bold actions instead of just letting themselves be victimized.


I guess the women who hid the children, who ran through the halls alerting people, who lunged at the attacker, who shielded children with their own bodies were not being assertive enough for you. fark you.
 
2012-12-20 09:11:39 AM  

Mouser: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.

So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.


Hmm, so a young male goes around shooting people and the fault is that young males aren't being encouraged to be aggressive enough?
 
2012-12-20 09:13:51 AM  

monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.


To be fair, there might not have been a mop bucket handy to hurl at the gunman's knees...
 
2012-12-20 09:15:55 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.


I met some of them during the recall effort last winter. Basically they didn't want to sign the recall petition because important stuff like that should be left up to the men. Sad.
 
2012-12-20 09:20:48 AM  

Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.


You're giving the average dolt too much credit.
 
2012-12-20 09:20:59 AM  

HailRobonia: I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took a bucket to the knee.


I took a bucket to the knee once and it didn't phase me. But of course it was hurled by a woman.
 
2012-12-20 09:21:45 AM  

monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.


Stupid woman logic.

/"stupid woman" logic
//not stupid "woman logic"
 
2012-12-20 09:22:22 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.

I met some of them during the recall effort last winter. Basically they didn't want to sign the recall petition because important stuff like that should be left up to the men. Sad.


Conservative women are often indistinguishable from women suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome.
 
2012-12-20 09:24:04 AM  
Can't we just agree that the real problem here is that a large chunk of the population is just simply messed up? Whether they're shooting up schools, arguing to carry more weapons, paying taxes to help line the pockets of big corporations, dictating countries under the cloak of democracy, or believing that an eagle snatched a baby on camera... People are messed up in the head and we, as a society, are doomed.
 
2012-12-20 09:25:21 AM  
That site needs banned from the internet
 
2012-12-20 09:27:09 AM  

ongbok: HailRobonia: I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took a bucket to the knee.

I took a bucket to the knee once and it didn't phase me. But of course it was hurled by a woman.


Yeah, well I took an 80lb female Labrador Retriever to the knee two days ago and it dropped me like a rock. There's a lesson to be learned here, I'm sure. I don't what it is, but there has to be a lesson 'cause that sh*t hurt like a motherf**ker.
 
2012-12-20 09:27:29 AM  
That's one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. The principal and teachers selfishly sacrificed themselves in order to save others. That's far more brave and "manly" than most of the men on this planet (and certainly more so than those pathetic cowards that require assault rifles or concealed weapons to feel "brave").

Nice country you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing.
 
2012-12-20 09:27:39 AM  
Some times over the years I've picked through the derpheaded bullshiat to read the good stuff, the real opinion, in NR. Maybe I should just stop bothering.
 
2012-12-20 09:27:57 AM  

born_yesterday: heili skrimsli: Yeah, the cops did a good job of getting there as fast as they could to put an end to things. I just can't help looking at situations like this and thinking that it is not a good idea to create huge areas of undefended people without the means to defend themselves. It's the same principle that says to me walking naked with fistfuls of cash through known gang territory at 3 am is a bad idea - yeah, it's their fault if they rape and rob me, although I don't need to go out of my way to give them a target.

No offense, but did you seriously mean that? So, any areas where "large numbers of people gather" should now include armed guards? Shopping malls, restaurants, churches, schools, office buildings, food courts, every building and every single street in the country should have armed guards posted or armed civilians (or we'll never be safe)?


It's for your own good, citizen. Now move along.

Yes, the conservative gun-love over this issue is now bringing in misogyny as well and combining the two. After all, everyone knows that men with manly guns everywhere is what's needed to keep the peace, right?

/they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen
 
2012-12-20 09:28:47 AM  
Apparently she's made a 'career' out of this kind of tripe:

We Scream, We Swoon. How Dumb Can We Get?
 
2012-12-20 09:29:01 AM  

Lost Thought 00: That site needs banned from the internet


No. It provides a valuable service by making conservatives look stupid.
 
2012-12-20 09:29:12 AM  

JonnyG: Can't we just agree that the real problem here is that a large chunk of the population is just simply messed up? Whether they're shooting up schools, arguing to carry more weapons, paying taxes to help line the pockets of big corporations, dictating countries under the cloak of democracy, or believing that an eagle snatched a baby on camera... People are messed up in the head and we, as a society, are doomed.


One of the side-effects of "American Exceptionalism" is that we don't have the ability to effectively criticize ourselves, since we're ideologically opposed to the notion that we're in serious competition with others. It's fertile ground for the crazies, who take over before our Exceptionalism-blinders allow us to see it.
 
2012-12-20 09:29:18 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Because if it was a legitimate shooting I'm told by experts that some nearby manly men have ways of shutting that whole thing down.


How NRO sees gender playing a role:

"Hey, is that a BONER you have?"
"Why yes it is"
"Then stop shooting and get over here and love me"
"Gee, mister!"
 
2012-12-20 09:30:07 AM  

WhippingBoy: That's one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. The principal and teachers selfishlessly sacrificed themselves in order to save others. That's far more brave and "manly" than most of the men on this planet (and certainly more so than those pathetic cowards that require assault rifles or concealed weapons to feel "brave").

Nice countrybunch of fools you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing, but should learn to restrict its mockery to the fools only.

 
2012-12-20 09:30:09 AM  

xria


Smartest
Funniest

2012-12-20 09:11:39 AM

Mouser: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.

So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.

Hmm, so a young male goes around shooting people and the fault is that young males aren't being encouraged to be aggressive enough?



Yes.
The shooter was not a "tough guy". Quite the opposite.
He was a scared little puss with rage for all the people he felt inferior to. Much like a large number of Farkers.
 
2012-12-20 09:31:07 AM  

Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen


In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.
 
2012-12-20 09:32:48 AM  

WhippingBoy: Nice country you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing.


This actually made me feel a little better about America. It's nice to see we haven't cornered the market on assholes.
 
2012-12-20 09:32:59 AM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: WhippingBoy: That's one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. The principal and teachers selfishlessly sacrificed themselves in order to save others. That's far more brave and "manly" than most of the men on this planet (and certainly more so than those pathetic cowards that require assault rifles or concealed weapons to feel "brave").

Nice countrybunch of fools you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing, but should learn to restrict its mockery to the fools only.


I agree with your corrections. Thank you.
 
2012-12-20 09:33:48 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?


Taco party.
 
2012-12-20 09:34:01 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen

In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.


And in the "Wild Wild West", you had to check your reputation with the director when you went to commit career-suicide in a movie where Will Smith raps at the end.
 
2012-12-20 09:34:59 AM  

WhippingBoy: That's one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. The principal and teachers selfishly sacrificed themselves in order to save others. That's far more brave and "manly" than most of the men on this planet (and certainly more so than those pathetic cowards that require assault rifles or concealed weapons to feel "brave").

Nice country you've got there, America. The rest of the world is pointing at you and laughing.


I'm not laughing. In addition to having a lot of American friends/relatives that I wish didn't have to deal with all this shiat, looking around me it's apparent that whatever's going wrong down there is contagious and leaking over the border.
 
2012-12-20 09:36:23 AM  

HailRobonia: I guess the women who hid the children, who ran through the halls alerting people, who lunged at the attacker, who shielded children with their own bodies were not being assertive enough for you. fark you.

 
If only a Real Republican ManTM was here.  He'd consume the shooter with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse
 
2012-12-20 09:38:47 AM  

FTA: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

i78.photobucket.com

"Sonofab*tch!!! We struck the motherlode of stupidity!!!"
 
2012-12-20 09:39:20 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen

In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.


Sure, once civilization reached a certain point. The Conservative Gun Lovers want to go back in time a bit further though, when every man was a law unto himself, because He Carried a Gun. That's what the GOP and the NRA wants; everyone armed at all times.
 
2012-12-20 09:39:30 AM  

Fast Moon: God dammit, what is it with the conservative obsession with victim-blaming? It's like criminals are just this force of nature who we neither can nor should do anything about and who are in no way culpable for their actions. Everything bad happens because the victims (especially if they're women) did something wrong. "If only they'd been armed". "If only they hadn't been girls". "If only they'd been smart enough to do this or that".

Fark that, it's "If only a nutcase hadn't decided to steal his mother's guns and take his frustrations out on a class of 6 year-olds." It's the criminal's fault. It's always the criminal's fault. It does not matter who the victim was, because the criminal is fully responsible for taking the impetus to act. We're obsessed with putting forward policies to prevent the creation of victims, but we're relatively silent concerning policies to prevent the creation of criminals.

(and if this person is trying to blame the feminization of society, try pointing out the gender of the vast majority of the shooters in these incidents. Although, their response would probably be along the lines, "That's because women don't have the guts to do something like this," like it's a bad thing)


I like the theory that some people cope with an incident like this by trying to rationalize how _they_ would never be in that situation because _they_ would do x, or wouldn't do y and certainly wouldn't be caught dead in place z. They're trying to figure out why that person died and they didn't and it makes it easier to cope with if the difference is something they can control.
 
2012-12-20 09:43:00 AM  
MEN ARE BULLETPROOF
 
2012-12-20 09:44:31 AM  
did anyone mention how punchable this face is?
cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com
 
2012-12-20 09:45:38 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: thurstonxhowell: Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen

In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.

And in the "Wild Wild West", you had to check your reputation with the director when you went to commit career-suicide in a movie where Will Smith raps at the end.


And this is the worst post in this thread, because you not only reminded me about that damnable movie but also that insipid song!
 
2012-12-20 09:46:31 AM  

born_yesterday: LouDobbsAwaaaay: thurstonxhowell: Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen

In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.

And in the "Wild Wild West", you had to check your reputation with the director when you went to commit career-suicide in a movie where Will Smith raps at the end.

And this is the worst post in this thread, because you not only reminded me about that damnable movie but also that insipid song!


if you ban giant mechanical death spiders only outlaws will have giant mechanical death spiders
 
2012-12-20 09:48:47 AM  

gabethegoat: did anyone mention how punchable this face is?
[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 220x165]


Well of course she thinks its easy to take down a mad gunman in an elementary school. She could just put on The Precious and tackle him from the cover of invisibility, before returning to the cave for a juicy fish.
 
2012-12-20 09:49:36 AM  

gabethegoat: did anyone mention how punchable this face is?
[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 220x165]


She'd be annoyed at her husband's passivity if he didn't mention it every night.
 
2012-12-20 09:52:48 AM  
I blame liberals.
 
2012-12-20 09:52:53 AM  

nmrsnr: Dusk-You-n-Me: nmrsnr:

1) Sandy Hook is a K-4 school, so no 11-12 year old boys.


You're assuming all the boys in there haven't flunked any grades, or weren't born late. There could be 11 year old boys in the 4th grade, if one were born late, and flunked 1 time.
 
2012-12-20 09:54:20 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.

I met some of them during the recall effort last winter. Basically they didn't want to sign the recall petition because important stuff like that should be left up to the men. Sad.

Conservative women are often indistinguishable from women suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome.


I had one who asked me if the record would be made public. I told her "yes." She said that she would but she didn't want her husband to find out. It wasn't too uncommon for people to be afraid to sign it because they were afraid of backlash, understandably with all the violent rhetoric being hurled around by the herp-derpers, but that one was afraid of the consequences of her husband finding out. farking sad.
 
2012-12-20 09:56:44 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: i1079.photobucket.com


I bet the young 'uns don't know this picture.

/Get off my lawn.
 
2012-12-20 09:57:54 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Hey, Charlotte Allen, come here for a second, I got something to say to you. Imma let you finish... but I wanna show you something real quick

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 200x251]


Too bad none of the feminized people at the school had one of these. You seem to prove the writer's point.
 
2012-12-20 10:00:22 AM  

gabethegoat: did anyone mention how punchable this face is?
[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 220x165]


Punchable? Dude, that mug looks like it's seen more action than any speedbag in any boxing gym in the US.
 
2012-12-20 10:00:25 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Apos: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.


*Shakes head*   How sad indeed.

I've known a few of them and they will straight faced tell you that if women just learned to listen then things would run smoother,not saying assertive women are to blame for anything but..


And this is wrong because?
 
2012-12-20 10:02:27 AM  

A Terrible Human: That teacher who died protecting her class had more guts than the write of the article ever will.


No, she cowered in the corner of a closet, where the little kids beat her to the farthest point away from the shooter, and used her as a shield.
 
2012-12-20 10:03:25 AM  

monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.


So is the stuff about God being allowed back in the classroom. I love pointing out that
Vatican City has 61 times the police per capita as the United States. If only they'd let God into Vatican City.
 
2012-12-20 10:03:40 AM  

apoptotic: SkunkWerks: Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio

More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.

Earlier in this thread the obvious solution was construction workers. Now I'm all confused.


We need them all! Let's throw in a cop, a cowboy, a GI, and an Indian chief, as well!

userserve-ak.last.fm

Surely, all those manly men will save us!
 
2012-12-20 10:04:05 AM  

WhippingBoy: I agree with your corrections. Thank you.


That went well. I was afraid you'd call me an Amerifat and tell me to fark off. :D
 
2012-12-20 10:04:17 AM  

Rambino: AbbeySomeone: Mentat: Everyone knows that bullets bounce off of   heterosexual men.

true

Heterosexual men who played high-school football.


Since there wasn't a heterosexual man, who played high school football, on the premises, you can't prove her wrong. Therefore, she's right.
 
2012-12-20 10:06:16 AM  

Rambino: What helpless passivity in a feminized setting may look like:

[www.nypost.com image 524x500]


She cowered in the corner of a closet, where a bunch of little crumbsnatchers used her as a shield. That's being a hero?
 
2012-12-20 10:06:39 AM  
Tumunga:

Hmmm... created in 2007, I didn't expect that. I was thinking more like this year. So what, has this been a sleeper account that you've had for years and have suddenly activated to fill the derp gap left by a presidential election being concluded?
 
2012-12-20 10:08:13 AM  

Sparky14439: His plan was to blow up a school bus using a 15 GALLON propane tank. He was going to block the bus lane with his car, drag the propane tank under the bus, and shoot the tank from a respectful distance until it exploded. And then effect a getaway. All the schools he scouted he had made notes on escape routes and traffic patterns. The gun was just to be used to intimidate the kids to stay in the bus, and to blow up the propane tank.


dailybiz.files.wordpress.com
Not what he had in mind.
 
2012-12-20 10:08:17 AM  
Tumunga: PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
 
There you go.

 
2012-12-20 10:08:44 AM  

sendtodave: Fark You I'm Drunk: Phil Moskowitz: I would pay real money to watch her evacuate her bowels when someone pointed a gun right between her eyes.

Yeah, but the point is a man wouldn't react like that.

Unless he's been feminized.


And the thread should be over at this point, but you know all about these bleeding heart, feminized FarkLibbies...
 
2012-12-20 10:08:46 AM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: WhippingBoy: I agree with your corrections. Thank you.

That went well. I was afraid you'd call me an Amerifat and tell me to fark off. :D


No. I need to learn to refrain from making reactive posts when my sense of outrage and disgust is engendered.
 
2012-12-20 10:08:56 AM  

Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen


janiebryant.com

How she'd respond to such a notion...
 
2012-12-20 10:10:12 AM  

Mercutio74: Tumunga:

Hmmm... created in 2007, I didn't expect that. I was thinking more like this year. So what, has this been a sleeper account that you've had for years and have suddenly activated to fill the derp gap left by a presidential election being concluded?


Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.
 
2012-12-20 10:12:41 AM  

Apos: [fc00.deviantart.net image 720x479]


YEP. I hate people sometimes.
 
2012-12-20 10:13:42 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.


Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.
 
2012-12-20 10:14:42 AM  

RobSeace: apoptotic: SkunkWerks: Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio

More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.

Earlier in this thread the obvious solution was construction workers. Now I'm all confused.

We need them all! Let's throw in a cop, a cowboy, a GI, and an Indian chief, as well!

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 380x380]

Surely, all those manly men will save us!


But I see no manly men in that pic...well, except the Indian. He's hawt.
 
2012-12-20 10:22:18 AM  

Mercutio74: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.

Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.


Don't hold your breath. I've had his posts marked in Safety Orange, which I save for hopeless cases, for quite a while.
 
2012-12-20 10:25:18 AM  

monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.

 
upload.wikimedia.org
 
Everyone knows that Islamic fundamentalists are the most manly men there ever were. It would take over 5,000 Alexander the Greats to equal the machismo of Major Nidal. What can pussymen like American soliders do against such testosterony big pee-pee people?
 
2012-12-20 10:26:38 AM  

Mercutio74: Tumunga:

Hmmm... created in 2007, I didn't expect that. I was thinking more like this year. So what, has this been a sleeper account that you've had for years and have suddenly activated to fill the derp gap left by a presidential election being concluded?


Nope. One Fark account. Been posting with it, as you say, since 2007. Of course, I've been tempted to create an alt when I get banned numerous times from posting due to someone (and you farklibtards know who you are) whining about my posts, so I have to attempt to not be too vulgar anymore. I don't use one, because I feel the use of alts isn't playing by the rules.

You forgot to quote the rest of my profile, but I'm sure you saw it, begging to find something derpy, and left a little disapoint:

WARNING - WARNING - WARNING

There's nothing in here for you to quote in a politics thread, so don't bother.
 
2012-12-20 10:27:14 AM  

MisterLoki: Tumunga: PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

There you go.


It worked?
 
2012-12-20 10:29:02 AM  
I put the blame squarely on one woman in particular - his mother. She knew he was mentally unbalanced, so much so that she was going to have him commited. That she took him out shooting and gave him access to her guns is just.....eh.

We do need to do a better job keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people.
 
2012-12-20 10:30:07 AM  

apoptotic: Mercutio74: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.

Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.

Don't hold your breath. I've had his posts marked in Safety Orange, which I save for hopeless cases, for quite a while.


Woooooo-Hooooooo!!!

I do thank you for not just putting me on your iggy list. The people who ignore everyone they don't agree with, apparently have been raised in that feminized world this lady is talking about.
 
2012-12-20 10:34:50 AM  
I wish the author of this tripe could have experienced just one, non-lethal .223 round injury before posting this offensive piece.
One little boy experienced 11 such wounds, which because of U.S. gun laws can be released in as many seconds. I suspect he was a brave little boy.
 
2012-12-20 10:35:29 AM  

generallyso: How does the author remember to breath?


There should be an "e" at tne end of that last word. Learn it.
 
2012-12-20 10:37:10 AM  

Tumunga: But I see no manly men in that pic...


What are you talking about? They're clearly Macho Men!
 
2012-12-20 10:38:21 AM  

Tumunga: apoptotic: Mercutio74: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.

Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.

Don't hold your breath. I've had his posts marked in Safety Orange, which I save for hopeless cases, for quite a while.

Woooooo-Hooooooo!!!

I do thank you for not just putting me on your iggy list. The people who ignore everyone they don't agree with, apparently have been raised in that feminized world this lady is talking about.


People aren't ignoring you because they don't agree with you. They're ignoring you because you're kind of a douche.
 
2012-12-20 10:38:49 AM  
So how would my penis have made a difference in stopping the shooting?

Is there a defensive weapons capability I have not discovered yet?

I'll keep playing with it until I figure this out.
 
2012-12-20 10:42:26 AM  

urbangirl: Tumunga: apoptotic: Mercutio74: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Is he trolling? I thought he was making jokes.

Oh... If that's the case, I hope he starts being funny soon so that we can tell one way or the other.

Don't hold your breath. I've had his posts marked in Safety Orange, which I save for hopeless cases, for quite a while.

Woooooo-Hooooooo!!!

I do thank you for not just putting me on your iggy list. The people who ignore everyone they don't agree with, apparently have been raised in that feminized world this lady is talking about.

People aren't ignoring you because they don't agree with you. They're ignoring you because you're kind of a douche.


Only kind of? I was looking for the full monte, so I recon I'm a fail.
 
2012-12-20 10:45:02 AM  
As usual, Think Progress is BS'ing, and people are flying off in to "This isn't what your point was but I'm going to pretend that it was so I can be all pissed off"

The overall point was that people have got to learn to fight back and not just cower in a corner. After some previous school shootings some areas began to try teaching people that. They even had drills where somebody with a "gun" would come in to the class room wearing protecting gear and the kids began throwing everything they could reach at them.

Grab a any small metal object or a pen and attempt to rip the would be killer apart with it.

Of course we had the usual suspects running forward going "Nooo! You can't DO that!"

But going on the premise that TP isn't spewing BS and what they say is actually true for a change?

Once again I will say: Exploiting a tragedy for personal or political reasons is repugnant unless they're your personal or political reasons... Right?
 
2012-12-20 10:45:08 AM  

2xcited: Can't fark with biology, men are hunter gatherers women do the nuturing. It was sad, some of the teachers were hugging the students as bullets ripped through both of their bodies. Of course we do have girly men too, ever see a white male, Obama voter.

So you would have to have the "right," kind of man in the school if that was going to be your plan of action.

Popping some popcorn, and putting a clip in my AR-15 to see where this thread goes.


Says the guy from Rolesville, NC. Yes, it's actually called Roles-ville.
 
2012-12-20 10:46:10 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.

So is the stuff about God being allowed back in the classroom. I love pointing out that
Vatican City has 61 times the police per capita as the United States. If only they'd let God into Vatican City.


To be fair, it also has the highest per-capita crime rate.
 
2012-12-20 10:48:42 AM  
Damn. That woman is really sexually repressed. Poor old gal needs to get laid!
 
2012-12-20 10:51:42 AM  
Now That's What I Call a Taco!


Damn. That woman is really sexually repressed. Poor old gal needs to get laid!


Yeah, but she needs a real man
 
2012-12-20 10:57:24 AM  

urban.derelict: hamfast gamgee: Good answer. That bullshiat article isn't even worth debating.

if it was indeed hosted by 'buzzfeedandrew' and that is a real, actual link to it on buzzfeed, and buzzfeed has a reputation to uphold, if it were not true, would they let him publish it on their site?

/don't you hate it when you have to verify info yourself?
//people are f*cking stupid and nothing is ever obvious -- this kid had one hell of a motive for doing what he did -- if it was even him who did it -- i want to see testimony of everyone who was there that survived, "kids say the damnedest things" no kids speak the f*ckin truth until they're scolded for revealing something they shouldn't have said but they want to be proud of contributing something


You are relentlessly retarded/slipping from reality (or both).
 
2012-12-20 11:00:16 AM  
I don't see the point in arguing with the GOPish anymore.

Their ability to be so wrong so often is finally losing them support...which is a good thing.

Flawed, insulting opinions like this will only weaken them further. Sure the base will eat this up and yell it from the rooftops, but it's a shrinking base and their cult-like adherence to so many backwards ideas will only harm them further.

/IOW please proceed...
 
2012-12-20 11:03:54 AM  

HailRobonia: Don't Troll Me Bro!: monoski: Major Nadal gunned down 13 people on an Army base that was primarily occupied by men. I think the logic is faulty.

So is the stuff about God being allowed back in the classroom. I love pointing out that
Vatican City has 61 times the police per capita as the United States. If only they'd let God into Vatican City.

To be fair, it also has the highest per-capita crime rate.


Good thing they've god Jaysus watching their backs. Just think how bad their crime rates would be, if they didn't worship the shiat out of God. They'd look like Norway, that place where churches get burned and all that Satanic music comes from. Oh wait, they have one of the lowest murder rates in the world. I'm confused. It's almost like this diety shiat makes no sense and is nothing more than a way to control stupid people.
 
2012-12-20 11:04:35 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: HailRobonia: Don't Troll Me Bro!:

damn stray comma

 
2012-12-20 11:07:36 AM  

randomjsa: As usual, Think Progress is BS'ing, and people are flying off in to "This isn't what your point was but I'm going to pretend that it was so I can be all pissed off"

The overall point was that people have got to learn to fight back and not just cower in a corner. After some previous school shootings some areas began to try teaching people that. They even had drills where somebody with a "gun" would come in to the class room wearing protecting gear and the kids began throwing everything they could reach at them.

Grab a any small metal object or a pen and attempt to rip the would be killer apart with it.

Of course we had the usual suspects running forward going "Nooo! You can't DO that!"

But going on the premise that TP isn't spewing BS and what they say is actually true for a change?

Once again I will say: Exploiting a tragedy for personal or political reasons is repugnant unless they're your personal or political reasons... Right?


I liked you better before Robocop.

affotd.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-20 11:11:10 AM  

randomjsa: As usual, Think Progress is BS'ing, and people are flying off in to "This isn't what your point was but I'm going to pretend that it was so I can be all pissed off"

The overall point was that people have got to learn to fight back and not just cower in a corner. After some previous school shootings some areas began to try teaching people that. They even had drills where somebody with a "gun" would come in to the class room wearing protecting gear and the kids began throwing everything they could reach at them.

Grab a any small metal object or a pen and attempt to rip the would be killer apart with it.

Of course we had the usual suspects running forward going "Nooo! You can't DO that!"

But going on the premise that TP isn't spewing BS and what they say is actually true for a change?

Once again I will say: Exploiting a tragedy for personal or political reasons is repugnant unless they're your personal or political reasons... Right?


So you think it's a good idea for a small child (or anyone else for that matter) who's under threat from a person pointing a gun to run at them with a small metal object?
Or am I misunderstanding your point?
Because I wouldn't want to misunderstand your point.
 
2012-12-20 11:11:40 AM  

aselene: giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark. The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy". What a leap of logic! What a worthless troll. Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women. Protip: Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are. Is that such a shocker? That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions. Nobody is saying that. Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.

Except that the women are to blame for failing to stop it. They ARE responsible for it.


When trolls collide...
 
2012-12-20 11:21:25 AM  
".....a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm."

This woman probably doesn't say much at NARAL meetings.

BTW, I'm a man willing to work at spree-shooty schools and perhaps throw buckets at psychos; only $400K per year, with checks cut weekly.

/does the teachers' lounge lock from the inside?
 
2012-12-20 11:24:16 AM  
She seems to be slightly obsessed with husky 12-year-old boys.
 
2012-12-20 11:26:10 AM  

Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.


Yeah, it is the right that is insane. Everybody knows that the time to make drastic policy changes is when the stats have been improving for two decades (like it has been with violent crime). Maybe we should freak out and change a bunch of shiat whenever we hear about a company going out of business even when the economy is doing well too?

You guys want to swat flies with nukes. YOU are the crazies here. We're going to end up with the PATRIOT act II: Electric Boogaloo thanks to you tards.
 
2012-12-20 11:29:43 AM  

umad: Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.

Yeah, it is the right that is insane. Everybody knows that the time to make drastic policy changes is when the stats have been improving for two decades (like it has been with violent crime). Maybe we should freak out and change a bunch of shiat whenever we hear about a company going out of business even when the economy is doing well too?

You guys want to swat flies with nukes. YOU are the crazies here. We're going to end up with the PATRIOT act II: Electric Boogaloo thanks to you tards.


You just proved his point. Congratulations I guess.
 
2012-12-20 11:33:37 AM  

born_yesterday: No offense, but did you seriously mean that? So, any areas where "large numbers of people gather" should now include armed guards? Shopping malls, restaurants, churches, schools, office buildings, food courts, every building and every single street in the country should have armed guards posted or armed civilians (or we'll never be safe)?

If this is the case, I think we can safely say that your patellar reflex is doing just fine.



I did seriously mean that, just not in the way you seemed to infer that I did.

I am referring to places that are guaranteed to be full of people who cannot defend themselves because the law-abiding citizens who frequent these places are stripped by law of any reasonable means to defend themselves, not that every place where large numbers of people gather should have armed guards.

However, if you want to go there, yes, it is absolutely unconscionable to remove people's means of defending themselves from attack, should they choose to lawfully carry such means, and then not assume responsibility for guaranteeing their safety.

All I advocate is not removing the ability of those who, in accordance with the law, carry firearms for self defense to do so.

Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen


Those 'Wild West' days you're referring to have only ever existed in Hollywood productions.
 
2012-12-20 11:34:26 AM  
Good to know bullets bounce harmlessly off of anything with a penis.

/probably a repeat in this thread but too ragey to review right now
 
2012-12-20 11:35:21 AM  

giftedmadness: Wow, yet another misleading and trollish headline on fark.  The person who submitted this headline makes the leap from "more males on campus might have prevented the tragedy" to "the women on campus are responsible for the tragedy".  What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker?  That does not mean that the women on site should be held responsible for the gunmen's actions.  Nobody is saying that.  Trollish, straw manish, dumbfarks.


Takes a bow.

/headline was dead on
 
2012-12-20 11:35:31 AM  
Things that cause gun violence:
 
Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution. 
 
Things that don't cause violence:
 
Unfettered access to guns by crazy people
 
2012-12-20 11:39:10 AM  

Fart_Machine: umad: Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.

Yeah, it is the right that is insane. Everybody knows that the time to make drastic policy changes is when the stats have been improving for two decades (like it has been with violent crime). Maybe we should freak out and change a bunch of shiat whenever we hear about a company going out of business even when the economy is doing well too?

You guys want to swat flies with nukes. YOU are the crazies here. We're going to end up with the PATRIOT act II: Electric Boogaloo thanks to you tards.

You just proved his point. Congratulations I guess.


Yeah, we should just shut up and go along with whatever kneejerk legislation our betters can push through while we are still emotional. That has always worked out well in the past. Fark you.
 
2012-12-20 11:39:46 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?


A clam bake.
 
2012-12-20 11:42:46 AM  

hundreddollarman: God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?

A clam bake.


Baaaaahahahahaha
 
2012-12-20 11:42:55 AM  

umad: Fart_Machine: umad: Befuddled: Maybe I'm giving the average dolt too much credit, but I'm beginning to believe that the right's insistence to remain insane after this horrible wake-up call will be one of the final nails in the coffin of the insane right. I just don't see how any semi-rational person can take the right seriously anymore when all they offer up is mind-bogglingly stupid and nearly as disconnected from reality as the shooter apparently was.

Yeah, it is the right that is insane. Everybody knows that the time to make drastic policy changes is when the stats have been improving for two decades (like it has been with violent crime). Maybe we should freak out and change a bunch of shiat whenever we hear about a company going out of business even when the economy is doing well too?

You guys want to swat flies with nukes. YOU are the crazies here. We're going to end up with the PATRIOT act II: Electric Boogaloo thanks to you tards.

You just proved his point. Congratulations I guess.

Yeah, we should just shut up and go along with whatever kneejerk legislation our betters can push through while we are still emotional. That has always worked out well in the past. Fark you.


No we should just pray more, give everyone firearms, and have more husky males around to deflect bullets. You sound emotional. Umad?
 
2012-12-20 11:43:23 AM  

ongbok: There is only one woman to blame from the information that has been released to date, and I seriously doubt she was a feminist. That would be his mother.


I am not sure about the mother. I think she did some things wrong (introducing her batshiat crazy son to guns was definitely WRONG) but I also think that she was dealing with something that she just couldn't handle.

I have PTSD because someone who owns a lot of guns threatened and stalked me. You want me to defend myself, guys? Come at me, bro--I will farking KEEL YOU. Touch me and I will try to put you in the hospital.

I don't really consider that to be a positive change. It's just what happened. It's a mystery to me why some people want to go around acting like everyone in the world is a threat to them. But you know what--that's how my ex thinks too. The crazy one who owns all the guns and scared the shrinks who were trying to deal with him. I'm just saying.
 
2012-12-20 11:51:45 AM  

cryinoutloud: I am not sure about the mother. I think she did some things wrong (introducing her batshiat crazy son to guns was definitely WRONG) but I also think that she was dealing with something that she just couldn't handle.


Perhaps she made guns available to him in the hopes that he'd kill himself and she would no longer be burdened with his care. Her plan kinda worked...
 
2012-12-20 11:56:09 AM  

Alphax: Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.

Seems unlikely that someone would choose to shoot up a school, but not care which one, beyond visible security.


Probably because the claim is a lie. He picked it because it had "easy access".

Link
 
2012-12-20 12:04:56 PM  

doubled99: Now That's What I Call a Taco!


Damn. That woman is really sexually repressed. Poor old gal needs to get laid!

Yeah, but she needs a real man


Here's one:

i78.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-20 12:07:11 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?


We always called it a clam bake.
 
2012-12-20 12:08:39 PM  
Wow, come back to the thread this morning and find people in agreement with the article. Dumbasses never cease to amaze me. If they'll fall for the complete BS in this article it's no wonder they are suckers for shiat like Fox News. If you fall for any of this...

Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

...you are one stupid mother farker!
 
2012-12-20 12:10:02 PM  
Dafuq did I just read...
 
"The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school's public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death." 
 
SEEMED to have performed bravely?  She gave her farkin' LIFE to save the kids and teachers...what more do you want?  
 
Whereas a MAN would have probably just laughed off being shot and saved the day with a single pimp-slap...
 
2012-12-20 12:21:08 PM  

BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence:

Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.

Things that don't cause violence:

Unfettered access to guns by crazy people


This is what conservatives really think.
 
2012-12-20 12:21:45 PM  

syzygy whizz: Dafuq did I just read...

"The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school's public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death."

SEEMED to have performed bravely?  She gave her farkin' LIFE to save the kids and teachers...what more do you want?

Whereas a MAN would have probably just laughed off being shot and saved the day with a single pimp-slap...


Yeah, we often call soldiers who do the same damned thing "Heroes". But, woman bravely runs toward her death to help people...meh...
 
2012-12-20 12:24:08 PM  

log_jammin: Sparky14439: Not only did he choose the school because he noted that there were no visible male employees or male crossing guards - apparently sitting outside the school early in the morning and noting who entered the building. The police found his written notes on each school he scouted.

citation please.


It doesn't matter. I'm quite sure that the opinion of one school shooter doesn't qualify as a valid sociological analysis of gender roles.
 
2012-12-20 12:30:26 PM  

Sparky14439: The shooter/would-be bomber at Kelly Elementary School in 2010 was unable to kill himself before being captured. He told police that the reason he chose Kelly Elementary school was specifically because after spending weeks scouting out all of the Carlsbad, CA elementary schools, Kelly School had the lowest fences and had no visible male employees or male crossing guards.

That's correct: The man who went and opened fire on a crowd of several hundred elementary school students on a playground in Carlsbad, CA on October 8, 2010 - stated he chose that school because the other schools he scouted out had visible male employees and male crossing guards.


Welcome to bright red
 
"O'Rourke fired six bullets before a casing jammed in the gun. Three construction workers - Partida, Steven Kane and Mario Contreras - tackled and subdued him until police arrived.
O'Rourke pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.

Following a Vista Superior Court trial, a jury convicted O'Rourke of seven counts of attempted murder and found that he was sane when he opened fire on the campus. He is was sentenced to 189 years to life in prison and is serving time at Mule Creek State Prison, southeast of Sacramento.

O'Rourke scouted Kelly and two other Carlsbad schools - Jefferson Elementary and Poinsettia Elementary. He planned to use propane to blow up a loaded school bus and shoot children, authorities said."
 
2012-12-20 12:31:00 PM  

Wooly Bully: Apparently she's made a 'career' out of this kind of tripe:

We Scream, We Swoon. How Dumb Can We Get?


How can anyone be that self loathing and not spray their brains all over the stall of a Burger King?
 
2012-12-20 12:33:53 PM  
Citrate1007
BSABSVR: Things that cause gun violence:

Not enough God in schools.
Not enough guns in schools.
Not enough manly men in schools.
Too many womenfolk in schools.
Not enough children with guns.
Not enough children trained to carry out human wave attacks.
Satan.
Autism.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Mental illness.
Video games.
Quentin Tarantino.
Jon Stewart.
Abortion pills.
Gay marriage.
Atheists.
LIBOR.
The theory of evolution.

Things that don't cause violence:

Unfettered access to guns by crazy people

This is what conservatives really think


-if only a law banning guns was in effect-no one would ever die
-why is my thinking so limited and my penis so tiny?


This is what Citrate1007 really thinks
 
2012-12-20 12:36:54 PM  
So tell me again how the gun culture in this country isn't composed primarily of boys who think guns will make their dicks bigger?
 
2012-12-20 12:38:13 PM  
I've been seeing screeds by gender studies harpies and eunuchs all week about the eebil man-gun-culture.

And this is the article fark focuses on.

Typical.
 
2012-12-20 12:38:47 PM  
Disgusting.
 
2012-12-20 12:38:48 PM  

Sparky14439: Alphax: Ed Grubermann: Alphax: Sparky14439: PTSDerp

 
So clearly it's the lack of men, and not the people around him alerting authorities, or the fact that he was able to get all of this stuff that's the problem.
 
Now you're bright red.
 
2012-12-20 12:41:53 PM  

Polly Ester: I've been seeing screeds by gender studies harpies and eunuchs all week about the eebil man-gun-culture.

And this is the article fark focuses on.

Typical.


Are you too passive to submit links?
 
2012-12-20 12:44:22 PM  
A real man who played a little high school football? Here you go, Charlotte.
 
2012-12-20 12:44:24 PM  

Pincy: So tell me again how the gun culture in this country isn't composed primarily of boys who think guns will make their dicks bigger?


If only you could fark your gun. Am I right people?
 
2012-12-20 12:44:37 PM  

Wooly Bully: Well it sure took them a while to come up with a new talking point.

- It's really a mental health issue and has nothing to do with guns
- You libtards don't know crap about guns so STFU
- It's politically and practically impossible to control guns
- If regular folks can't have AR-15s, tyranny's a-coming
- If guns were banned, mass murderers would just use sharpened carrots
- RAMPAGING HOGS
- Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio


To be fair, they're busy with all those wars.  You know, the War on Christmas, the War on Men, the war on Morals.  They're stretched pretty thin.  Even the NRA had to hold back for a week.
 
2012-12-20 12:46:31 PM  
Actually it is due to a woman... Lanza's mother.

You knew your son was having problems. Should have kept your shiat locked up tight or not on the premises.
 
2012-12-20 12:46:41 PM  

umad: while we are still emotional.


Pussies.

A real man watches his family decapitated by shovels and then jerks his damn knee for legislation limiting shovel ownership that. Very. Night.

Man up you silk-wearing buttercups.
 
2012-12-20 12:46:57 PM  
Thread is tl;dr, but didn't several female teachers pull children to safety? Not what I would call "passive".
 
2012-12-20 12:47:39 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: Actually it is due to a woman... Lanza's mother.

You knew your son was having problems. Should have kept your shiat locked up tight or not on the premises.


I'm sure that is a consoling thought to all those grieving parents.
 
2012-12-20 12:49:49 PM  

orbister: Sparky14439: Like I said. I am the source. I live and work in the community. I work for the PD. I know kids in the school. I know the ADA. I even know the guy who sold him the pistol!

That's very ... convincing. I'll tell the Queen when I have lunch with her tomorrow.


And I also provided a link to the Reader article - which mentions he noted male employees. I assume the transcripts of the Court Case are also in the public domain.
 
2012-12-20 12:52:50 PM  

giftedmadness: culprit:
: one accused of or charged with a crime

The article comes no where close to saying that women should be accused of this crime.  What a troll headline.


Keep farking that chicken, someone will bite on the content instead of just insulting you eventually.

/obvious troll is obvious

God-is-a-Taco: So what's the female version of a sausage fest, anyway?
Clam fest?


Clam bake.
 
2012-12-20 12:53:57 PM  

Wayne 985: Thread is tl;dr, but didn't several female teachers pull children to safety? Not what I would call "passive".


They weren't as swift as a coursing river though. And they sure as hell didn't have all the force of a great typhoon.

Also missing from these supposed acts of "heroism":
*Strength akin to a fire that rages
*Dark side of the moon-like mysteriousness.
 
2012-12-20 01:05:20 PM  

ladyfortuna: Coco LaFemme: Stupid like that should be so painful it kills.

Seriously.

Especially when you consider that accounts (pretty much all I've heard at least) are that the teachers concentrated on SAVING the lives of their students, rather than attempting to stop him and possibly getting more people killed. No one can say definitively what would have been the more effective response, but they did what they knew would save lives, to the best of their training. I'd like to see how this author would react in the same situation.


I'd like to see her in that situation too.. just her mind you.. and maybe some rabid dogs
 
2012-12-20 01:06:07 PM  
I'm from a city where a guy waked into an engineering school, about as male-dominated an environment as you're likely to find, and slaughtered 14 women. The men couldn't do anything because the killer had A BIG-ASS GUN. Some students later committed suicide from the guilt and trauma. That asshole really needs to shut the fark up.
 
2012-12-20 01:15:29 PM  
Anyone remember that submarine movie U-571?  There's a scene in it where a sailor gets shot by the enemy, and then charges the gunman while continuing to get shot before he tackles and kills him. Only after the gunman is dead does the sailor die from his wounds.  I guess that's what some people believe will happen when they get shot.
 
2012-12-20 01:16:27 PM  
Once again, it appears that the wrong people got gunned down.
 
2012-12-20 01:16:37 PM  
You want more male teachers in elementary schools? Up the pay instead of constantly trying to tell us that teachers are overpaid.
 
2012-12-20 01:36:38 PM  

SkunkWerks: Wayne 985: Thread is tl;dr, but didn't several female teachers pull children to safety? Not what I would call "passive".

They weren't as swift as a coursing river though. And they sure as hell didn't have all the force of a great typhoon.

Also missing from these supposed acts of "heroism":
*Strength akin to a fire that rages
*Dark side of the moon-like mysteriousness.


The woman has not the thumos.
/Or perhaps, too much isothymia and not enough megalothymia.
 
2012-12-20 02:00:13 PM  

giftedmadness: Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.  Protip:  Men are stronger and more likely to stop someone via their strength than women are.  Is that such a shocker? 

 
Oh, how I wish I could honestly answer yes:  oh, yes, I am shocked to find this kind of hateful ignorance being spewed on the Internet, more than a decade into the 21st century.  I would love to be astonished and amazed to find such an atavism, like Margaret Mead discovering a lost tribe in the Amazon still holding onto a Stone-Age lifestyle.
 
But, no, alas, I am not shocked after reading your post.  My feelings are more like annoyance, like I have stumbled across some dog poo in the park because some inconsiderate pet owner neglected to pick up after Fluffy again.
 
Perhaps in future threads someone will clean up after themselves better.
 
2012-12-20 02:03:35 PM  

giftedmadness: Alphax: giftedmadness: What a leap of logic!  What a worthless troll.  Of course men are more likely to stop someone than women.

 
/facepalm
 
facepalm = nice debating
 
You flatter yourself when you imagine people will take the time to debate your bilge.
 
2012-12-20 02:15:06 PM  
Ceiling Moran I'm going to save time and just point you toward Runs_With_Scissors Weeners in the thread.
 
Ceiling Moran:   Ah, filtered into hilarity. Love ya, Fark, don't ever change.
 
sendtodave: It's not a big deal until his weeners point towards you.
 
Running with scissors and weeners is not an auspicious combination.
 
2012-12-20 02:17:19 PM  

doglover: I blame Atheists because they enjoy sex so we should stick Slim Jim's™ in our butt holes!

 
2012-12-20 02:23:22 PM  

KierzanDax: doglover: I blame Atheists because they enjoy sex so we should stick Slim Jim's™ in our butt holes!


That's your political agenda?!
 
2012-12-20 02:25:17 PM  
Runs_With_Scissors_: a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.  
 
Fark you.
 
No. Seriously.
 
Fark you.


 
 
2012-12-20 02:34:10 PM  

ciberido: Running with scissors and weeners is not an auspicious combination.


It's auspicious of a Fark Headline, methinks.
 
2012-12-20 02:45:58 PM  

mgshamster: KierzanDax: doglover: I blame Atheists because they enjoy sex so we should stick Slim Jim's™ in our butt holes!

That's your political agenda?!


I'm pretty sure that's the GOP's political agenda.
 
2012-12-20 02:51:33 PM  

log_jammin: Sparky14439: He was eventually tackled by two construction workers

 
after being hit by a truck.
 
Why do you keep omitting that part?

 
 
Perhaps because, in a way, that element gets to the heart of the matter.  There has always been angst in men about their role in society (even the Epic of Gilgamesh has men nostalgic for the "good old days" in which men were more masculine) and going hand-in-hand with that has always been the assertion that there are some things women just cannot do as well as men.  But we've come to realize that the only thing men can legitimately claim to be better at than women are solely things totally dependent on their one indisputable advantage: upper body strength.
 
And, largely thanks to technology, we've been crafting a world in which muscle power means less and less each year, even in those most "macho" acts of killing and waging war.  Give a man and a woman each a knife, and you'd expect the man to win.  Give a man and a woman each an AK-47, and the man has little to no advantage.  Put a man and a women each in the cockpit of a jet fighter, and my money's on the woman winning the dogfight.
 
So, yes, in a way, the idea that the driver of a truck was the one who did the most to stop the Kelly School shooter illustrates this "male crisis."  Especially if the driver was female, but even if the driver was male, the fact that the driver might as well have been a woman is enough.
 
2012-12-20 02:58:21 PM  

Mouser: Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak - but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

 
She's not blaming women, she's blaming a "feminized" (read: "effeminate") culture that excludes masculine values of aggressive defense against threats.
 
So, yeah. She's blaming the queers. It's the same reason we're losing the war in Afghanistan.
 
Somehow, if we could stop the gays from getting married, everything else would turn out just fine.
 
2012-12-20 03:00:45 PM  

david_gaithersburg: One of the few well reasoned articles on the topic.


Hey, remember just yesterday, when I wondered whether your drawing stupid conclusions was on purpose or you're just mis-wired?

I think I know the answer, now.

But it doesn't really matter, your assholery is what is now shining through like a beacon. The source hardly matters.

Into the box with you.
 
2012-12-20 03:13:25 PM  
Fark the line of reasoning that this woman uses.

By virtue of being born male, I DID NOT sign up to be the bodyguard of society.
 
2012-12-20 03:17:03 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: djkutch: So, the conservative position is that women are basically useless?

Good to know.

They certainly don't seem to want them for sex.


That's what male interns/hookers are for.
 
2012-12-20 03:27:13 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Disgusting.


...and she writes bad too.

bp1.blogger.com
 
2012-12-20 03:30:43 PM  

beta_plus: Someone made an argument so that I can't grab the guns of law abiding citizens who I force through my social legislation to live in dangerous neighborhoods full of the results of that legistlation-


If no one can parse this into a actual English sentence by the time I have to refresh the page I'm gonna plonk this motherfarker!! Don't think I won't do it, I got nothin' to lose!

Get on it, biatches!
 
2012-12-20 03:33:17 PM  

Deucednuisance: beta_plus: Someone made an argument so that I can't grab the guns of law abiding citizens who I force through my social legislation to live in dangerous neighborhoods full of the results of that legistlation-

 
If no one can parse this into a actual English sentence by the time I have to refresh the page I'm gonna plonk this motherfarker!! Don't think I won't do it, I got nothin' to lose!
 
Get on it, biatches!
 
I'm going with "derp."
 
2012-12-20 03:41:57 PM  

Deucednuisance: beta_plus: Someone made an argument so that I can't grab the guns of law abiding citizens who I force through my social legislation to live in dangerous neighborhoods full of the results of that legistlation-

If no one can parse this into a actual English sentence by the time I have to refresh the page I'm gonna plonk this motherfarker!! Don't think I won't do it, I got nothin' to lose!

Get on it, biatches!


He is saying that if people who need a gun for protection should just give up their guns and move to a safer neighborhood then you can give up your car and move closer to work/public transportation. That is my best guess anyway.
 
2012-12-20 03:43:48 PM  
Nevermind. I thought I was still in the "cop swears he smells alcohol" thread. I have no idea what he was saying.
 
2012-12-20 03:45:36 PM  

heili skrimsli: Those 'Wild West' days you're referring to have only ever existed in Hollywood productions.


The fact that it's a fantasy does not mean that that is not the model they strive toward.

Heck, their ideas about society seem to be almost entirely fantastical.
 
2012-12-20 03:49:45 PM  

YouAreItNoTagBacks: I'm going with "derp."


Well, that was a mighty good try and all... Mostly right, too.

But I'm still gonna have to plonk him, on general principal.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-20 03:51:05 PM  

sendtodave: Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.

I agree. That's why we should outlaw guns entirely, and go back to beating each other with clubs. Or bare-fisted boxing.

Now that's manly. Hiding behind a killing machine? Pussy.


Mind you, this is coming from a guy who's handle screams insecure male...unfortunately at high decibles.
 
2012-12-20 04:00:35 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: sendtodave: Thunderpipes: Women are the most responsible for a shift to liberalism, so sure, why not?

Going to get worse before it gets better. Now all you liberal "men" are not even men anymore, just womanized males.

I agree. That's why we should outlaw guns entirely, and go back to beating each other with clubs. Or bare-fisted boxing.

Now that's manly. Hiding behind a killing machine? Pussy.

Mind you, this is coming from a guy who's handle screams insecure male...unfortunately at high decibles.


They have the first 7 seasons of Always Sunny on Netflix right now and I've developed a slight addiction until I catch up.  

Thunderpipes sounds like something Mac would call his penis.
 
2012-12-20 04:28:56 PM  
The solution is obvious. Males need to be rounded up and placed in concentration camps. Specially vetted males can be released into the wild as long as they are tagged with ankle bracelets and GPS tracking devices.
 
2012-12-20 04:33:44 PM  

generallyso: How does the author remember to breath?


I'm assuming that a man tells her when to do it.
 
2012-12-20 05:04:51 PM  
Not that I'm trying to validate this disgusting op-ed, but I've got a relevant story of badassery involving one of my old teachers that prevented a school shooting back in 2006.

Some 13 year old kid brought an assault rifle to school and began shooting, which obviously set everyone into panic mode. Mr. Gilbreth (my old teacher, who was the principal at this point) was nearby when the shot went off. Undoubtedly feeling the duty to protect the students and flooded with fight or flight adrenaline, Mr. Gilbreth decided to go toward the shooter. The kid saw him coming, and turned the gun to take a shot. I'm not sure whether the gun jammed or he just couldn't take the shot fast enough, but Mr. Gilbreth was grabbed the rifle out of his hands and subdued him until the police arrived.

Whether bravery or stupidity, it worked out well on that day.
 
2012-12-20 05:11:38 PM  
I think she's on to something, but not the something she thinks she's onto. Men cause most of the violence in the world. Most female perpetuated violence is caused in response to men who wronged them or who they perceived wronged them. But for the most part it's men who do violent things. Therefore, the only clear solution is to get rid of all the men and/or lock them up so they can't cause violence to women anymore. Imagine how safe the world would be at that point.
 
2012-12-20 05:24:10 PM  

JonnyG: In fairness, if there was a single overweight male, he could have lunged and fallen on top of the shooter after being gunned down and it would have prevented all of this. Also, a meteor could have blasted the shooter to smithereens, but it is what it is.


www.ffshrine.org
Quite.
 
2012-12-20 05:47:33 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: thurstonxhowell: Bendal: /they want a return to the Wild West days
//everyone armed to the teeth, and the women stayed home and in the kitchen

In the "Wild West", you had to check your guns with the sheriff when you went to town.

And in the "Wild Wild West", you had to check your reputation with the director when you went to commit career-suicide in a any movie where with Will Smith raps at the end in it.

 
2012-12-20 06:42:59 PM  

apoptotic: SkunkWerks: Wooly Bully: - Insufficient penis-to-vagina ratio

 
More trannies in schools is the obvious solution.
 
Earlier in this thread the obvious solution was construction workers. Now I'm all confused.
 
www.thelostogle.com
Surely there's a solution.
 
2012-12-20 06:50:26 PM  

Nem Wan: The things conservatives say lately make no political sense to say unless they intend to repeal women's suffrage.

 
They've already gone there.
 
Jesse Lee Peterson, Conservative Preacher, Says Women's Voting Rights 'One Of America's Greatest Mistakes'
 
And before someone says, "B-but .. he's just one man!  He doesn't represent conservatives!", Peterson is described as "a leader in the Tea Party movement."
 
2012-12-20 06:53:44 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Coco LaFemme: Apos: The fact that a woman is spouting such misogynistic claptrap is mind-boggling.

 
I sadly know a few women who honestly believe men are better than women, and that they should be subject to their husbands.  What's funny is that none of them are particularly religious.
 
I met some of them during the recall effort last winter. Basically they didn't want to sign the recall petition because important stuff like that should be left up to the men. Sad.
 
Conservative women are often indistinguishable from women suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome.
 
To take that one step further, I sometimes wonder if half the USA isn't suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
2012-12-20 06:56:24 PM  

Wooly Bully: Apparently she's made a 'career' out of this kind of tripe:

 
We Scream, We Swoon. How Dumb Can We Get?
 
Well, at least she's clearly trying to answer her own question.
 
2012-12-20 08:36:41 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Hm. She may be onto something. After all, Columbine was entirely run by women, as well. And what if there had been men in the theater at Aurora? We may be on the verge of solving this violence problem, people. 
 
Also, this idiocy is getting shared all over the place, re-blogged, re-posted, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Which means that the vapid soulless biatch who wrote it has learned, as did the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter, Stern, Beck, and all the other "I'll say anything as long as it gets me coverage and money" assholes in the world did long ago, that as long as you're willing to spout the vilest stupidity you can imagine, you get attention. You get page views. You get paid. Which in the end means you get hired to write more vile stupidity. And so it goes, the circle of life.
 
The day this whore (and yes, she is a whore, not of the body but of the mind) writes something like this and gets...nothing...she dies. They all do.


While I love your work, I'm loving the image of a theater filled with women watching The Dark Knight.
 
2012-12-20 09:26:59 PM  

doglover: I blame (group you hate here) because they (action you don't like) so we should (your political goal here)!


Look who spent time at OWS, or really any political protest.
/I moderated an Occupy live chat
 
2012-12-21 02:44:26 AM  

shaddix: I'm sure having a couple of men would have helped. The protective instinct would be a huge factor here, as long as they didn't take a bullet to the head or the heart. A large man would definitely have a better chance than a waifish woman with not enough strength to even disarm the guy if she could get close enough.


Waifish? I thought this happened in America.
 
2012-12-21 10:19:59 AM  

Krashash: prevented a school shooting back in 2006.

Some 13 year old kid brought an assault rifle to school and began shooting,


Maybe I'm missing something, here, but it sure sounds like there was "shooting" at a "school" that wasn't "prevented"...
 
2012-12-21 06:22:40 PM  

Deucednuisance: Krashash: prevented a school shooting back in 2006.

Some 13 year old kid brought an assault rifle to school and began shooting,

Maybe I'm missing something, here, but it sure sounds like there was "shooting" at a "school" that wasn't "prevented"...


The account was also a little Hollywoodified.  Gilbreth ducked into another room after encountering the boy--who fired a warning shot and told him to get out of there.  Then the gun jammed.  After frantically calling 911, while another faculty member had the school locked down, the boy started going up the stairs, which sent Gilbreth into a panic.  He raced after the boy and yelled at him to come down.  He did. The police were already outside as Gilbreth escorted the kid downstairs and into police custody.
 
2012-12-21 06:25:00 PM  
Not that I'm downplaying the obviously selfless sense of duty of the man, just trying to nudge the fantasy of the everyman movie badass in the middle of what might be a mass murder, right back out the door where it came from.
 
2012-12-21 10:02:29 PM  

sendtodave: mittromneysdog: Why are conservatives so god damn stupid? Seriously, how did this happen?

I thought I already linked to this.


Nice link, his book is great but he uses such politically loaded terms it almost seems like an attack on anyone who identifies as right-wing, which is probably why I like it, oh god, I'm analyzing myself now....what have you done? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?
 
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