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(Human Events)   Newt Gingrich says that the GOP must change or it will fail again, because if there's anyone who knows something about the GOP and failure, it's Newt   (humanevents.com) divider line 30
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2012-12-19 09:09:21 PM  
Amazingly, not everything Newt Gingrich says is wrong. Also, Newt knows a thing or two about convincing people you've changed. How else can you get your third wife to marry while you're leaving your second wife?
 
2012-12-19 10:03:27 PM  
"The GOP must stop focusing on anal sex, and turn its attention to blowjobs." - Newt Gingrich
 
2012-12-19 11:03:15 PM  
"When you realize we lost the popular vote in five of the last six elections and that in '04, we won with the closest re-election race ever for an incumbent president in history, you know we have serious problems," Gingrich told us. A major part of the GOP's problem, he believes, is "talking to people outside the normal Republican circles.  [We need to operate] in a world in which Republicans listen to people" who aren't the same as themselves. 
 
you're gonna have to get the GOP to stop calling Obama 'santa claus' and insulting ever voter who makes less than $250k a year.  oh, and someone is gonna have to tell Limbaugh to STFU for a couple years, otherwise your entire plan will fall apart.
 
2012-12-19 11:11:07 PM  
Gingrich spoke at length on why he feels his party is... "more out of sequence with reality than any Republican cares to admit."

Yep.
 
2012-12-19 11:12:00 PM  
He orchestrated the Contract with America and the Republican takeover of Congress in the eighties.

/ok the part after that isn't much to brag about
//i know, he still won't have sex with me
 
2012-12-19 11:12:11 PM  
The old guard will not give up their power and they are not dying fast enough to save the Republican party. When you are a rich, old, white male, you have no idea how to compromise because you've never had reason to learn.
 
2012-12-19 11:13:26 PM  
Gingrich warns that the current GOP brand has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and it is time for the party to completely drop any relationship to it and start pursuing a brand that is younger, healthier, and sexier.
 
2012-12-19 11:14:21 PM  
what happened to double down on EVERYTHING
 
2012-12-19 11:14:52 PM  
NewtRINO
 
2012-12-19 11:16:57 PM  
But will the party actually listen? Sadly no. They're just too invested in their mindset. On the other hand, the self-immolation promises to be entertaining.


Whos's bringing the marshmallows?
 
2012-12-19 11:21:37 PM  

Rich Cream: He orchestrated the Contract with America and the Republican takeover of Congress in the eighties nineties.

 
2012-12-19 11:29:37 PM  

fatassbastard: Rich Cream: He orchestrated the Contract with America and the Republican takeover of Congress in the eighties nineties.


Thanks.

You kids listen to fatass, he knows what he's talking about.

/stop showing me up
 
2012-12-19 11:52:13 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Gingrich warns that the current GOP brand has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and it is time for the party to completely drop any relationship to it and start pursuing a brand that is younger, healthier, and sexier.


At first I was, "yep," then I was like, "oh wait, LOL."
 
2012-12-20 12:15:19 AM  
The first thing the GOP needs to do is to stop picking people who were forced to resign both their congressional seat and their seat as Speaker of the House as the party's leaders.

Newt must have had the goods on a lot of people.
 
2012-12-20 12:22:45 AM  
Newt, like most of the GOP, is missing the main point (although he DOES seem to realize that there is a point to begin with):

Before ANYTHING can be done you must first JETTISON THE BATSHAIT INSANE DIPSHAITS and get out of the ECHO CHAMBER! The saner parts of the GOP in the BIG TENT need to tell the BOZOs to GTFO and get their OWN TENT.
 
2012-12-20 12:35:34 AM  
Nice words. Now let's see you live them, Newtie.
 
2012-12-20 12:39:26 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: The first thing the GOP needs to do is to stop picking people who were forced to resign both their congressional seat and their seat as Speaker of the House as the party's leaders.

Newt must have had the goods on a lot of people.


No, there just isn't anybody left. The real problems for the GOP started when they started believing their shiat, leading people with political futures to look elsewhere. That's why you see a lot of Republicans ducking out when they are able: the Teabaggers run the joint now, and anybody who compromises isn't a 'real' Republican. We are in store for a few more election cycles of the Republicans running themselves into the ground simply by spouting their echo chamber nonsense with the rabid belief that everybody really thinks this way.

DigitalCoffee: Newt, like most of the GOP, is missing the main point (although he DOES seem to realize that there is a point to begin with):

Before ANYTHING can be done you must first JETTISON THE BATSHAIT INSANE DIPSHAITS and get out of the ECHO CHAMBER! The saner parts of the GOP in the BIG TENT need to tell the BOZOs to GTFO and get their OWN TENT.


Newt doesn't have a point, or any real power. If he was really giving a shiat about preserving his meal ticket, he would have said this shiat a year ago. Instead, he's aping what other people have said to keep capitalizing on what Republican politicos really do nowadays: ripping off their voters with more fear and 'common sense' that is now being said by someone they claim to trust. All of this Gingrich 'truth' is just bullshiat that shows the common GOP voter wouldn't believe they were on fire until a Republican politician mentioned the smoke.
 
2012-12-20 12:41:33 AM  
Two Newt greenlights in one day? That's a double Newtin' of Newt!

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2012-12-20 12:43:51 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Gingrich warns that the current GOP brand has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and it is time for the party to completely drop any relationship to it and start pursuing a brand that is younger, healthier, and sexier.


Nice.
 
2012-12-20 12:59:10 AM  

He′s a Ph.D. in History, former Associate Professor of History, who in his latest book (A Nation Like No Other: The Case for American Exceptionalism, co-author Vince Haley, ©2011 Regenery Publish Company, ISBNs #1596982713 & #9781596982710) committed an error that he himself should′ve rejected in any paper from a student. He quoted a secondary source for an alleged Founding Fathers quote (p. 76, bulleted list item #2, footnoted as ²) that did not cite its own source for that quote. He repeated it in his twenty-page Presidential Commission on Religious Freedom (A Proposed ‶On Day One" Executive Order of Newt Gingrich′s 21st Century Contract with America) which apparently excerpts chapters from the aforementioned book, quoting that sentence on p. 8, again as bulleted list item #2. He footnotes it here as 6, and Footnote #6 on p. 18 reads as follows [word-wrap as-is]:

6 Carl Pearlston, ‶Is America a Christian Nation?", Connecticut Jewish Ledger, April, 2001; available at: http://www. catholiceducation.org/articles/ politics/pg0040.html (accessed April 26, 2011).

As you can see, Mr. Pearlston cites no source whatsoever. That particular website is, of course, merely reprinting his article, so the original may have had a source. So, I decided to check. Here′s a link to the print-published version (California Political Review, March, 2001, pp. 24−27). Still no citation for that nor any other claim in Pearlston′s article.

Now here′s the actual source of the quote (or, rather, a reprinting of it):
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P. 134 of the September, 1956 issue of The American Mercury

Note the pull-quote at the bottom, from the segregationist magazine The Virginian earlier that same year (the actual original source of that quote).

Here′s that pull quote closer up:
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As you can see, the only quote even alleged to actually be from Patrick Henry is the one cited from his will (and even that is spurious!). The part often quoted is from commentary about that quote written by the article writer of the The Virginian article.

Someone (so far it looks like one Stephen C. Dawson, in or somewhat before 1988) apparently saw that pull quote in The American Mercury and somehow thought (despite the citation clearly showing what was allegedly those actual words of Patrick Henry from his will) that the sentence, ‶The above quotation from the will of Patrick Henry is a notable example." were referring to the immediately preceding paragraph(s) (despite the numerous anachronisms such as ‶propaganda" and ‶religionists" used in the sense used in this quote [‶propaganda" hadn′t even been coined yet nor would it be for another century or so, and ‶religionists" had a meaning almost the 180° diametric opposite of the way it′s used in this quote during Patrick Henry's time and for quite some time thereafter], not to mention that America in Patrick Henry′s day was not yet ‶this great nation" at the time, nor had it yet ‶afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship" to ‶people of other faiths"), not the text clearly labeled as being form his will! Interestingly enough, while David Barton (in his The Myth of Separation) and numerous others cite Dawson as their source for that quote, they all apparently misstate the title of the source! They always cite it as: ‶Steve C. Dawson, God′s Providence in America′s History (Rancho Cordova, CA. Steve C. Dawson, 1988), Vol I, p. 5.", but the actual title of the only book meeting that description that I could find is ‶God′s Providence For America."


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Even Amazon.com gets it wrong as does small publisher GoRapture.com (both calling it "God's Providence To America"), despite the correct title being clearly shown on the cover on both websites.

Note that this is a rather chintzy self-published dot-matrix-printed cheaply-bound book, not some professionally published book. It's apparently no longer available. I′d love to track down a copy, to see what Mr. Dawson claimed his source for that quote to be, if he did even cite his source.

Because everyone who cites it always cites it the same way, complete with a majorly altered title (unless Dawson released another version with the longer title either before or after but still in 1988), it appears that even most of those who cited it as their source were being less than honest, apparently instead having found it in some other source that cited it, and skipping citing where they actually found it ― a form of plagiarism. For whoever was the first to cite it as such, it may well have been an honest mistake (even though s/he should've had the physical book in hand when citing it), but the others would all have been plagiarizing that first citer, or someone else who′d him/herself plagiarized that first citer, and so on.

I've not been able to find any biography on this ‶Stephen C. Dawson," nor any mention of what credentials he might′ve had or claimed when he wrote that. But we do know from the magazine photos that he at the very least was sloppy in his research, or else some source he cited was (which would still make him sloppy, since, like Gingrich, he should not have cited a non-primary source without checking its own sources and so on until he got back to a primary source).

 
2012-12-20 01:00:03 AM  
STAY THE COURSE, REPUBLICANS!
 
2012-12-20 01:01:23 AM  
Now Newt farkin' Gingrich is a RINO.

That's disturbing.
 
2012-12-20 01:05:14 AM  
Please Republicans, please listen to Newt Gingrich.

Love, Democrats.
 
2012-12-20 01:10:36 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Gingrich warns that the current GOP brand has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and it is time for the party to completely drop any relationship to it and start pursuing a brand that is younger, healthier, and sexier

for about three months, before it melts into some sort of hideous lich.

/FTFY.
 
2012-12-20 01:51:18 AM  
The comment from "Hoosier Daddy" following the article had some crazy/pitiful stuff, but this line stood out: "Conservatives DO need to take a page from the leftist play book. They need to stop preaching to the choir and preach to the shallow and the gullible the way that the left does."

Oh, but dear Mr. "Daddy"! What do you think Fox News (that you so ably laud) is for???
 
2012-12-20 02:18:00 AM  
DigitalCoffee: Newt, like most of the GOP, is missing the main point (although he DOES seem to realize that there is a point to begin with):
 
Before ANYTHING can be done you must first JETTISON THE BATSHAIT INSANE DIPSHAITS and get out of the ECHO CHAMBER! The saner parts of the GOP in the BIG TENT need to tell the BOZOs to GTFO and get their OWN TENT.
 
Yeah. They can't ever do that. 
 
When people like Ron Paul (44.6% of the straw poll victories),  Herman Cain (26.2%), Rick Santorum (4.6%),  Michele Bachmann (3.1%), & Newt Gingrich (3.1%) make sense to more than four fifths of the people in your party, getting rid of the crazies means you don't have a party anymore. 81.6 percent of Republicans picked one of those people as their number one choice for the office of president last year. 
 
The dipshiats are the party. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_Republican_Party_pr es idential_primaries,_2012
 
2012-12-20 07:07:36 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Gingrich warns that the current GOP brand has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and it is time for the party to completely drop any relationship to it and start pursuing a brand that is younger, healthier, and sexier.


And...we have a winner.
 
2012-12-20 09:25:01 AM  

Weaver95: you're gonna have to get the GOP to stop calling Obama 'santa claus' and insulting ever voter who makes less than $250k a year.  oh, and someone is gonna have to tell Limbaugh to STFU for a couple years, otherwise your entire plan will fall apart.


Gingrich was the genius who advised the Republicans to start referring to Obama as the "food stamps president." Dog whistle racism like that earns you quick brownie points with pissed off old white guys but is totally off-putting to people who like and respect the president.

It's like the GOP totally forgot that to win a presidential election, they have to attempt to reach people who voted for the other guy last time around.
 
2012-12-20 10:00:37 AM  
A major part of the GOP's problem, he believes, is "talking to people outside the normal Republican circles. [We need to operate] in a world in which Republicans listen to people" who aren't the same as themselves.

Intelligent people don't argue with idiots.....too many moderates are put off by the GOP's belief that you have to swallow the bible pounding/tea bagging idiocy in order to support them. That is far too big of a pill.
 
2012-12-20 11:07:25 AM  

CorporatePerson: Weaver95: you're gonna have to get the GOP to stop calling Obama 'santa claus' and insulting ever voter who makes less than $250k a year.  oh, and someone is gonna have to tell Limbaugh to STFU for a couple years, otherwise your entire plan will fall apart.

Gingrich was the genius who advised the Republicans to start referring to Obama as the "food stamps president." Dog whistle racism like that earns you quick brownie points with pissed off old white guys but is totally off-putting to people who like and respect the president.

It's like the GOP totally forgot that to win a presidential election, they have to attempt to reach people who voted for the other guy last time around.


Well you don't have to (in a nation without mandatory voting), given that half the people that could have voted in 2012 actually did so, and voting dropped by 9% since 2008 all it would have taken was to scare/enrage and otherwise motivate more of your base to still turn out than the Democrats could, which the Republicans are generally pretty good at doing, but it was always going to be hard to do that with Romney as the candidate (especially as the "Booga! Booga! Scary black man!" stuff was always going to be less effective four years later and nothing too disasterous happening while he was in charge).
 
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