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2012-12-20 07:56:45 AM  
Title should be "The Fifteen more Dangerous People in the World According to Americans".
 
2012-12-20 08:03:07 AM  
"investigation-cum-media circus "
best phrasing evar for an affair explanation.
 
2012-12-20 08:08:24 AM  
How the fark is A.Q. Khan not on the list?
 
2012-12-20 08:15:07 AM  

doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.


Economies of scale will come.
 
2012-12-20 08:19:22 AM  

doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.


Now.

Look at the difference between Internet access today, and 20 years ago. Were you even online? Probably not, the vast majority of people weren't. It was hard, required some special skills, and some expensive equipment that wasn't all that common, and it was slow and user-unfriendly. Now look at it.

The same is likely to happen with 3D printing. It's difficult and expensive today, the domain of geeks, just like the Internet was 20 years ago. But in 2032? It's possible that 3D printers will be as ubiquitous as inkjet printers are today.
 
Pav
2012-12-20 08:21:25 AM  

EyeHateOnlineIdiots: obama, boehner, reid, netanyahu should top the list, easily.

The USA and israel and its war of terror kill millions abroad, and the usa kills millions at home with its war of healthcare extortion and the prison state.


I think your math needs a little work.
 
2012-12-20 08:24:38 AM  

Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.


Measured by the pound, he's not that dangerous.
 
2012-12-20 08:29:45 AM  
do you think if another country compiled this list that it would be filled with white people?
 
2012-12-20 08:30:22 AM  
There are definitely more than 15 people around the world that could launch a nuclear weapon, so that would be an entire list right there. Many of these potential launchers we've never heard of, like Vasili Arkhipov.

Extraordinarily, we live in an era where such a launch is simply not a major threat at this time.

Meanwhile, only one person is mad enough to actually launch scud missiles filled with God knows what at cities the size of Chicago of his own citizens, and who has the connections to potentially start World War 3 if he plays his cards right. That's your most dangerous person right there.

Random thought- does Iran's propensity for committee leadership lead to more evil results? I'm thinking of Kennedy's ability to face down an epic three hour demand from all of our top Defense officials demanding we start nuking Moscow in wake of the Cuban Missile crisis. If that had been left to a simple majority vote, we'd probably all be dead by now.
 
2012-12-20 08:30:54 AM  

Deep Contact:
So it really comes down to the TLC, World Bank, Bilderbergers, The Fed. Reserve.


Huh?

swotti.starmedia.com

/hot like a washboard stomach
 
2012-12-20 08:31:45 AM  
Lemme guess, a lot of names from tabloids in America, plus some of the people the Americans think are dangerous. Kaspersky? Ok. My hair is a bird.
 
2012-12-20 08:31:45 AM  
Women who 'drive' SUVs?

www.wired.com
 
2012-12-20 08:35:00 AM  

dittybopper: doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.

Now.

Look at the difference between Internet access today, and 20 years ago. Were you even online? Probably not, the vast majority of people weren't. It was hard, required some special skills, and some expensive equipment that wasn't all that common, and it was slow and user-unfriendly. Now look at it.

The same is likely to happen with 3D printing. It's difficult and expensive today, the domain of geeks, just like the Internet was 20 years ago. But in 2032? It's possible that 3D printers will be as ubiquitous as inkjet printers are today.


20 years ago... I was online, but my father was a SWe so it's not really fair =P
 
2012-12-20 08:35:37 AM  
also, I was 10 9 at the time =D
 
\10 in a few weeks
 
2012-12-20 08:36:34 AM  

gregory311: Women who 'drive' SUVs?

[www.wired.com image 660x498]


Old Asian women. 
 
I speak from experience of riding my bike every day through Palo Alto, Mountain View and Santa Clara.
 
2012-12-20 08:44:42 AM  

dittybopper: doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.

Now.

Look at the difference between Internet access today, and 20 years ago. Were you even online? Probably not, the vast majority of people weren't. It was hard, required some special skills, and some expensive equipment that wasn't all that common, and it was slow and user-unfriendly. Now look at it.

The same is likely to happen with 3D printing. It's difficult and expensive today, the domain of geeks, just like the Internet was 20 years ago. But in 2032? It's possible that 3D printers will be as ubiquitous as inkjet printers are today.


Or you could just talk to this guy who has a CNC machine.
 
2012-12-20 08:45:04 AM  
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-12-20 08:50:40 AM  
Internet Tough Guy conspicuously absent.
 
2012-12-20 08:51:27 AM  
www.profightdb.com


/World's Most Dangerous Man
 
2012-12-20 08:52:51 AM  

dittybopper: doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.

Now.

Look at the difference between Internet access today, and 20 years ago. Were you even online? Probably not, the vast majority of people weren't. It was hard, required some special skills, and some expensive equipment that wasn't all that common, and it was slow and user-unfriendly. Now look at it.

The same is likely to happen with 3D printing. It's difficult and expensive today, the domain of geeks, just like the Internet was 20 years ago. But in 2032? It's possible that 3D printers will be as ubiquitous as inkjet printers are today.


Makes me wonder what China will do when cheap crap pops into existence on my desk instead of being made by one of their factory slaves.
 
2012-12-20 08:55:36 AM  
The only thing the Wiki Weapon will accomplish is that 3D printers will be heavily regulated, meaning anything they're programmed to create must first pass a government e-review before proceeding. Which of course opens the way for a lot more than guns to be banned from the process. Every manufacturer in the country will make a case for why people can't make this or that.
 
2012-12-20 08:58:06 AM  
Conspicuously omitted was the most dangerous person EVAR.

userserve-ak.last.fm

That's right, Frank Stallone.
 
2012-12-20 09:02:02 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: do you think if another country compiled this list that it would be filled with white people?


Could be pretty tough, actually. Cody Wilson should be on there, along with John Brennan. After that, I guess Grover Norquist is economically dangerous (seems to be giving that pant load too much credit though, IMO).

Rupert Murdouck seems like a lock (although that may be more of a case where he can no longer control the monster he's created-- see his calls for gun control completely ignored). It's tough to argue that people that can't get elected into positions of power are legitimately "dangerous," so that leaves Mittens/Newt/Santorum out. The Koch brothers are definitely making America worse on the state legislative level, but does that rise to global danger? Paul Weyrich and ALEC seem to want to kill democracy in America, which would almost certainly endanger the stability of the world, so he's probably a lock.

Who else? And how do we define "white"? Is Putin?
 
2012-12-20 09:03:58 AM  
And not a single mention of Wall Street Bankers... these guys glibly crashed the global economy. And will happily do it again if left to their own devices.
 
2012-12-20 09:04:21 AM  
This article made me sad for my country, and also slightly ashamed, personally. Why? Because I didn't even recognize about half of this list - and yet, I hear all day long about The Voice, The X Factor, "the fiscal cliff" and stupid Mayan apocalypses. *sigh* It's not news....it's America.
 
2012-12-20 09:06:44 AM  
Kaspersky's products are bad and he should feel bad.
 
2012-12-20 09:09:01 AM  

Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.


Your life of fear is palpable and delicious. Blowhards shouldn't be scarey to anyone.
 
2012-12-20 09:09:18 AM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Conspicuously absent from the article is Busta Rhymes AND his Flipmode Squad.


truly inspiring
 
2012-12-20 09:09:53 AM  
Hambali should be on there if he wasn't in prison.

Hambali's vision was (and presumably remains) to unite Southeast Asia under an Islamic banner, by means of violent overthrow of the region's existing governments. Hambali's Islamic "super-state" would encompass Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, the Philippines, Cambodia and Thailand.

If you think 9/11 seemed like a "failure of imagination" on the part of U.S. intelligence agencies and policy makers, then the failure to focus on Hambali can only be due to an apocalyptic lack of imagination

Although the odds are pretty daunting, Hambali's ambitious plan would, if successful, create a full-fledged superpower under the control of extremists just like bin Laden.

According to the CIA world factbook, Hambali's super-state would have a population of nearly 420 million people (compared to the U.S. population of 280 million). The conscript base of men fit for military service would number well over 75 million, significantly higher than the U.S. The super-state would have a chokehold on shipping lanes in the South China Sea providing access from Asia proper to the Indian Ocean, enabling it to exert significant control over sea trade and airspace flowing to India, Africa and Australia.

There are a lot more dangerous people than are on that list...
 
2012-12-20 09:10:18 AM  

dittybopper: doglover: What happens to gun control when anyone can download and print a gun with their computer?

Uh, for the price of time and use of a 3D printer of the kind good enough to make a usable firearm, I could buy a glock, a suppressor, a and some hollow points.

Now.

Look at the difference between Internet access today, and 20 years ago. Were you even online? Probably not, the vast majority of people weren't. It was hard, required some special skills, and some expensive equipment that wasn't all that common, and it was slow and user-unfriendly. Now look at it.

The same is likely to happen with 3D printing. It's difficult and expensive today, the domain of geeks, just like the Internet was 20 years ago. But in 2032? It's possible that 3D printers will be as ubiquitous as inkjet printers are today.


Not disagreeing, but considering that inkjet drivers 20 years ago would fit on a single floppy, it may be that computers of the future will be so full of bloatware that they can barely display ads for Bachelor Chow and "Ow, my balls!"
 
2012-12-20 09:15:37 AM  

jaybeezey: Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.

Your life of fear is palpable and delicious. Blowhards shouldn't be scarey to anyone.


By that logic, Charles Manson shouldn't be in jail. Right wing media is dangerous in the US, because there's an ignorant, pliable and willing audience to believe whatever it is Rush (or any other of a handful of media personalities) tells them.
 
2012-12-20 09:16:23 AM  
flatrock.org.nz
or
powet.tv
 
2012-12-20 09:19:00 AM  

machoprogrammer: Hambali should be on there if he wasn't in prison.

Hambali's vision was (and presumably remains) to unite Southeast Asia under an Islamic banner, by means of violent overthrow of the region's existing governments. Hambali's Islamic "super-state" would encompass Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, the Philippines, Cambodia and Thailand.

If you think 9/11 seemed like a "failure of imagination" on the part of U.S. intelligence agencies and policy makers, then the failure to focus on Hambali can only be due to an apocalyptic lack of imagination

Although the odds are pretty daunting, Hambali's ambitious plan would, if successful, create a full-fledged superpower under the control of extremists just like bin Laden.

According to the CIA world factbook, Hambali's super-state would have a population of nearly 420 million people (compared to the U.S. population of 280 million). The conscript base of men fit for military service would number well over 75 million, significantly higher than the U.S. The super-state would have a chokehold on shipping lanes in the South China Sea providing access from Asia proper to the Indian Ocean, enabling it to exert significant control over sea trade and airspace flowing to India, Africa and Australia.
There are a lot more dangerous people than are on that list...


Except, he is in prison. Plus, China wouldn't just sit idly by while a new superpower develops on its doorstep. Especially one spreading a religious system that could subvert their power over their own people.

Unless they got all the fat development and natural resource contracts...
 
2012-12-20 09:19:48 AM  

Buttbone McGillicutty


Not disagreeing, but considering that inkjet drivers 20 years ago would fit on a single floppy, it may be that computers of the future will be so full of bloatware that they can barely display ads for Bachelor Chow and "Ow, my balls!"


That's okay: they'll have sixteen cores, 256MB L2 cache, and the ads will be managed by Asynchronous Screen Service (or ASS).

Printer drivers probably could still fit on a floppy if they were extracted from the tons of crap and useless vendor apps that accompany them.
 
2012-12-20 09:22:39 AM  

xharfire: This article made me sad for my country, and also slightly ashamed, personally. Why? Because I didn't even recognize about half of this list - and yet, I hear all day long about The Voice, The X Factor, "the fiscal cliff" and stupid Mayan apocalypses. *sigh* It's not news....it's America.


There's this wonderful new invention called the Internet. You're using it right now. Another thing you can use it for is to seek out information. TV news is filtered to appeal to the people dull and passive enough to still watch it, so of course that's what you get on TV.
 
2012-12-20 09:23:00 AM  

Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.


You mean this guy?

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-20 09:26:06 AM  
List fails without Chuck Norris
 
2012-12-20 09:27:53 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Except, he is in prison. Plus, China wouldn't just sit idly by while a new superpower develops on its doorstep. Especially one spreading a religious system that could subvert their power over their own people.

Unless they got all the fat development and natural resource contracts...


Well, besides the prison thing, he is a lot scarier than the people on that list. I mean, seriously, the woman who farked Petreus? She isn't scary, other than the fact that Petreus is a dumbass.
 
2012-12-20 09:29:56 AM  
This list doesn't really have a lot of truly dangerous people included.

The dude from Cidudad Juarez I agree with, but then you leave off the rest of the Cartel lords... and no Brazilians?

Imajellydoughnut isn't on this list? No Kim Jong Ibeezillin'? No one from Russia / China? Israel? Merkel?

:(
 
2012-12-20 09:31:07 AM  

Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.


You are a moran if you think he is that dividing. Even the vast majority of the most die-hard conservatives think he is retarded.
 
2012-12-20 09:40:54 AM  
List fails without "Hooker with a chipped tooth".
 
2012-12-20 09:44:01 AM  

machoprogrammer: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Except, he is in prison. Plus, China wouldn't just sit idly by while a new superpower develops on its doorstep. Especially one spreading a religious system that could subvert their power over their own people.

Unless they got all the fat development and natural resource contracts...

Well, besides the prison thing, he is a lot scarier than the people on that list. I mean, seriously, the woman who farked Petreus? She isn't scary, other than the fact that Petreus is a dumbass.


Oh I definitely agree with that. I suspect that they felt like they needed to include at least one woman on the list. To suggest she is "dangerous" is to suggest that poor little General Petreaus was no match for her wily feminine charms.

Also, the F-22 whistleblowers are heroes, not threats. And it was only a matter of time before China started building some decent aircraft. Too much money, too much political will, too many highly trained engineers, a healthy disdain for American IP law... If we weren't prepared for this development, we're in way worse shape than we ever imagined.
 
2012-12-20 09:47:56 AM  

violentsalvation: deslided


thank you.
 
2012-12-20 09:50:13 AM  

machoprogrammer: Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.

You are a moran if you think he is that dividing. Even the vast majority of the most die-hard conservatives think he is retarded.


Forgive him, Macho. I'm sure Kevin, like most people, base their knowledge of Rush only on the clips they see on MSNBC and The Daily Show.
 
2012-12-20 09:51:38 AM  
Not a single Jew on the list, so fark off.
 
2012-12-20 09:54:29 AM  
The fifteen most dangerous people in the world to American hegemony.
 
2012-12-20 09:56:37 AM  

Happy Hours: Assad is not dangerous to anyone who is not in Syria. That includes his supporters.

Prediction: Assad will be dead within 3 months.


$5 on the under
 
2012-12-20 10:00:27 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Kevin72: Rush Limbaugh is the most dangerous man in America. Spewing lies, halftruths, slander. Belittling, dividing.

You mean this guy?

[img.photobucket.com image 320x241]


Nah. To be dangerous he'd need an audience.
 
2012-12-20 10:02:51 AM  

Alassra: This list doesn't really have a lot of truly dangerous people included.


I think they mean dangerous in the political sense, not actual lethality.

Like the guy with the 3D printed guns. His actions go beyond weapons.
Politicians, for generations, have staked their entire career on the idea that they can protect you from "things". They run on the promise that they can provide other things. Fear of scarcity is a fuel they depend on.

What happens when any thing is available to any one?
New markets, new concepts, and the death of the government(and corporate) grip on our means of production.

Elitist heads are gonna roll off that little plastic guillotine, and mr.gunprinter man is the herald of it.

/the f-22 whistleblowers called the emporers new 200 billion dollar clothing for what it was.
/Broadwell wrecked many political careers.
/Most of these people are quite dangerous in their own way.
 
2012-12-20 10:04:24 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: And it was only a matter of time before China started building some decent aircraft. Too much money, too much political will, too many highly trained engineers, a healthy disdain for American IP law... If we weren't prepared for this development, we're in way worse shape than we ever imagined.


As long as the US remains the consumer society it is, China would never attack. Countries generally don't fark with their biggest trading partner, especially then that relationship contains such a huge import/export gap in their favour.
 
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