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(Washington Post)   Someone once compared getting consensus in Congress to herding cats. The analogy still holds but now you'll have to imagine that the cats are angry and brain damaged   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 55
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2012-12-20 09:49:43 AM  
5 votes:
"We are the party that says you should not raise taxes."

That is the most retarded political ideology I've ever heard, and I say that as a conservative. I can understand and support the Republicans being the party that fights to keep taxes and expenditures as low as possible while continuing to maintain our fiscal responsibilities and vital infrastructures. To simply say "Taxes never, ever go up for any reason, period!", especially during a period when taxes are near historical lows, is almost comically stupid. Not only is it horrible fiscal policy, it puts you into a position that allows no room whatsoever for debate and compromise. That's a huge problem in a democracy. You are virtually guaranteeing perpetual gridlock, standing firm to your misguided ideals while your country burns around you. I guess it fits nicely on a bumper sticker though, and it's simple enough for your brain-dead constituents to understand.

Look, Republicans: I realize that in Republican fantasy land we can simply de-fund NPR and Planned Parenthood, kick the blacks off of "welfare", increase military spending and lower taxes and somehow the budget will miraculously be balanced. That's all well and good. Unfortunately we live in a place that I like to call "reality". Get your pants off of your head, your mouth off of Grover's cock, and help us come up with a plan to get this country back on track. Your ridiculous posturing and mindless absolutism accomplishes nothing and threatens to destroy your country from within. Congratulations, assholes. You're trying to put us on a path to become a 3rd-world country, but at least the billionaires can keep an extra 3% in their offshore bank accounts, so I guess it's all good.
2012-12-20 08:23:34 AM  
3 votes:
We should shove them all into a burlap bag and toss em in the river.
2012-12-20 06:20:47 AM  
3 votes:
Congress would be a lot better if it were run by cats. CSPAN would be the cutest channel on TV!
2012-12-20 01:41:01 PM  
2 votes:
They have no trouble at all coming together when their wealthy donor friends interests require it, or to destroy the concept of Civil Liberties.

Protecting the Banks from prosecution for Fraud? Bipartisan support

Endless highly profitable War? Bipartisan support

War on Drugs / For profit prisons? Bipartisan support

Free Trade Agreements that allow America's manufacturing jobs to be shipped out of the nation, without any sort of protective tariffs when those products are brought back in? Bipartisan support

Patriot Act? Bipartisan support

Throwing Americans into Military Prisons without a Trial? Bipartisan support

Hell, right now, the Senate is trying to sneak through an extension of the "temporary" FISA Amendments that legalized Bush style warrantless spying on Americans. Without any sort of debate or publicity.

Just like the last Patriot Act extension was snuck through with as little debate and publicity as possible.

It's not that they don't know what Americans want. It's that they want to fark us over without our noticing.

dl.dropbox.com
2012-12-20 09:26:29 AM  
2 votes:
Lobby before party before country.
2012-12-20 09:01:22 AM  
2 votes:

Day_Old_Dutchie: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I've never understood the rationale of the "no taxes! but don't cut military spending to save money!" sorts.
 
It's simple. The politicians are greedy bastards that won't raise a finger to help the nation, but they have no problems enriching each other - in fact, they think their moral duty is too their peers.
 
The sad thing is that the majority of these clowns are extremely wealthy in the first place; they don't need their salaries, bonuses or kickbacks (bribes? PACs?) and can live very comfortably on their existing wealth while they are in office.
 
They could send a message that they are serious about our future by saying they will accepts a token salary of 1$ for sitting in that chair. It won't save much initially, , but it just may influence others in a leadership position in government and business to forgo THEIR salary, or at least take a cut for "the team".
 
But it will never happen. We have an entitled bunch of selfish stubborn assholes running the show right now both in government and business who are more intent on helping their pampered peers accumulate wealth than actually looking at the long view,

 
That is just the symptom.  The root of the problem is an ignorant (pridefully ignorant) electorate.
2012-12-20 08:36:01 AM  
2 votes:
america doesn't care
collectively voting in the same idiots year after year
then feigning surprise and shock that they don't do as promised
and they get richer
 
representatives of the people..
=the people are idiots
so you get exactly what you deserve
2012-12-20 08:25:14 AM  
2 votes:
I've never understood the rationale of the "no taxes! but don't cut military spending to save money!" sorts. If I went up to the grocery store for something and then didn't want to pay for it, I'd be in jail. I strongly suspect (actually, I figure it's true) that the link between Teabaggers and Sovereign Citizen types is so strong, it's like the link between people who listen to death metal and those who watch horror movies. There's hardly even a line. Why the Republicans put up with that is beyond me. They need to smack dem biatches down and quit catering to them before someone else does it for them.
2012-12-20 08:04:32 AM  
2 votes:

LordBollocks: Someone once compared getting consensus in Congress managing computer programmers to herding cats

FTFM


If you need to manage your programmers to any significant degree, you're doing it wrong. Lead them, yes, inspire them, yes, but "managing" highly intelligent, independent thinkers rarely works out well.

Almost all of the material improvements in my department have come from within, and were achieved by a consensus of the programmer/analysts and DBAs, who then presented the proposals to our boss. It would have been much different, and almost assuredly for the worse, had those things been imposed on us from the top down instead of from the bottom up.
2012-12-20 07:56:49 AM  
2 votes:

Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....

Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.

Ah, I didn't realize that when subby said "Congress" he actually meant "Grover Norquist."

It's true, the article is about Congress. However, if somebody who has signed the pledge votes "yea" on this bill because it's not technically a tax increase but would vote "nay" on the Senate bill because it technically is a tax increase, they would be somebody who could agree that both of those things is true.


Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.

I can. Grover is "moving ther goalposts" in an attempt to stay relevant. The moment Republicans who signed the pledge start compromising to revenue increases en masse, Grover Norquist no longer matters in any way in the American political theater. Grover knows this and sees the writing on the wall, President Obama holds the upper hand and tax increases are inevitable. Now Grover is in full damage control/spin mode. Watch as the more Republicans are forced to compromise, the more Norquist will movehis goal posts and try to rationalize it.
2012-12-20 07:34:13 AM  
2 votes:
So Boehner decided he was done "negotiating" and will tr yto ram "his plan" through congress, which has no chance of passing the Senate, and President Obama can "take it or leave it"? That is a load of B.S. Rather than work towards a solution for the sake of the American people, he would rather "grandstand" and play political games trying to force blame on the White House. I suggest Boehner look at the latest opinion polls as well as the last election results; the American people outside of the conservative entertainment complex's echo chamber aren't buying it. The President now has the upper hand in the negotiations, the momentum has changed and Boehner is the one negotiating with a weaker hand. Boehner needs to realize this rather than dig an even deeper hole in their approval ratings by trying to force the desire of a few wealthy elite on the American people.
2012-12-20 02:35:41 AM  
2 votes:
Stuff them in a bag and throw them in the river.
2012-12-19 11:13:07 PM  
2 votes:

Apos: Someone once compared getting consensus in Congress to herding  cats cattle.
 
 
FTFY, subby.

 
i.chzbgr.com
 
lmgtfy
2012-12-19 10:43:29 PM  
2 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com 
 
//all you need is a cardboard box
2012-12-19 09:23:39 PM  
2 votes:
Cats generally aren't as vocal as Congress critters. It's more like trying to fight your way free of a pack of drunken, rabid howler monkeys without getting bitten or sexually assaulted.
2012-12-20 10:36:45 AM  
1 votes:
theinspirationroom.com

theinspirationroom.com

www.jugglingcats.com

3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-12-20 10:35:26 AM  
1 votes:
Isn't welfare something you have to pay back nowadays? I heard Clinton  passed that law. If that is true, I don't get what the big deal is about someone being on welfare for a while so the recipient doesn't end up homeless. I've never had to be on it, but I've known people who did have to go on the dole. The welfare department here in Cali put so many "you must do this, you must do that with us, you must attend this class" on them that it was actually hard for them to go look for work. It's part of the reason I built up such a healthy reserve in my savings in the first place. I never want to have to go through that. Then having to pay it back would suck even more. Dudes. Not cool. Not cool at all. 
 
Look out for your own, and your own is your fellow countrymen.  It starts with your family and spirals outwards into the wider community, then to the rest of the nation, if necessary. 
 
Oh, and if someone is a billionaire, they certainly don't need my help by having a lower tax rate than many/most middle class types. Sell your wife's Prada collection if you start running low on cash, jackass. Too bad that won't fit on a bumper sticker.
2012-12-20 10:19:17 AM  
1 votes:

pissedoffmick: These are the very same folks that spent a bazillion dollars running ads every 2 minutes for months and months touting how effective they would ineffective and rabid their opponent would be once elected, right?


FTFY. "Attack" ads have gained much more favor than "Promise" ads, it seems to me.
2012-12-20 10:08:53 AM  
1 votes:

mytdawg: Real Women Drink Akvavit: mytdawg: Detroit Dog Rescue has pulled dogs out of the worst possible environments and some of the stories about the dogs ability to recover and be lovable are just astounding.

 
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]
 
Dammit, you're costing me money. I may look scary and slightly freakish to others, but I've got a tender heart. Especially when it comes to animals. I will donate at the drop of a hat to an animal cause.
 
/never shoulda started watching those videos
//poor goggies!

 
My apologies. It was meant for the blind Golden thread. DDR has a really good videographer it seems though. The videos are heart wrenching but extremely well done. Ought to put those people in charge of Congress although that may be a crappier job than they are doing now.
 
It's for a very good cause though, so no real harm, no foul. Besides, I've got about a six month reserve left, so I'm good. The foul is on the people who left animals in such deplorable conditions. 
 
/unemployed for a while now, but it's totally chill so far
2012-12-20 10:06:06 AM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: born_yesterday: But if they don't toe tow the party line,

/Pet Peave.


Actually. no.

From The Grammarist:
The idiom is toe the line, not tow the line. The phrase derives from track-and-field events in which athletes are required to place a foot on a starting line and wait for the signal to go. Race officials used to shout "Toe the line!" where now they shout "On your marks!" Since entering the language, the idiom has developed to mean do what is expected or act according to someone else's rules or expectations.

/pet peeve

//oh, wait.....
2012-12-20 10:03:12 AM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: And yet they will take control of the Senate in 2014


Not to start talking election stuff already, but the D-R split is 55-45 at present. What six (D) seats are the Republicans going to win? It's way too early to start polling, or thinking about how the Senate is going to be perceived by the public, but just looking at demographics, that's a big chunk of races to win.
2012-12-20 09:54:14 AM  
1 votes:
You insult brain damaged cats by comparing them to Tea Partiers
2012-12-20 09:53:29 AM  
1 votes:

mytdawg: mytdawg: Detroit Dog Rescue has pulled dogs out of the worst possible environments and some of the stories about the dogs ability to recover and be lovable are just astounding.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]

Hahahaaa. Wrong thread. Dammit. Multi-tasking gone horribly wrong. Fraction-tasking it seems.


That's OK, it was better thought out than 95% of the derp I this thread.
 
As long as people cling to the belief it's the other teams fault we as a nation are screwed.
 
Republicans need to concede taxes go up. Democrats have to concede that the tax paying base needs to expand and that spending needs to be reigned in. People are going to have to give back some of the things they were promised because the government lied about it's ability to deliver in order to buy votes.
 
We almost need to put them all in a room, cut off contact from the outside world, allow all votes to be confidential, and not let them out till they solve this mess.
 
All those bastards are more concerned with re election than fixing the country.
2012-12-20 09:45:15 AM  
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: mytdawg: Detroit Dog Rescue has pulled dogs out of the worst possible environments and some of the stories about the dogs ability to recover and be lovable are just astounding.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]

Dammit, you're costing me money. I may look scary and slightly freakish to others, but I've got a tender heart. Especially when it comes to animals. I will donate at the drop of a hat to an animal cause.

/never shoulda started watching those videos
//poor goggies!


My apologies. It was meant for the blind Golden thread. DDR has a really good videographer it seems though. The videos are heart wrenching but extremely well done. Ought to put those people in charge of Congress although that may be a crappier job than they are doing now.
2012-12-20 09:42:47 AM  
1 votes:

mytdawg: Detroit Dog Rescue has pulled dogs out of the worst possible environments and some of the stories about the dogs ability to recover and be lovable are just astounding.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


Hahahaaa. Wrong thread. Dammit. Multi-tasking gone horribly wrong. Fraction-tasking it seems.
2012-12-20 09:30:03 AM  
1 votes:

sendtodave: Serious Black: It's true, the article is about Congress. However, if somebody who has signed the pledge votes "yea" on this bill because it's not technically a tax increase but would vote "nay" on the Senate bill because it technically is a tax increase, they would be somebody who could agree that both of those things is true.

It both is a tax increase, and it isn't a tax increase when voted on? That's like herding Schrödinger's cats.


That was pretty awesome.
2012-12-20 09:25:44 AM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: LordBollocks: Someone once compared getting consensus in Congress managing computer programmers to herding cats

FTFM

If you need to manage your programmers to any significant degree, you're doing it wrong. Lead them, yes, inspire them, yes, but "managing" highly intelligent, independent thinkers rarely works out well.

Almost all of the material improvements in my department have come from within, and were achieved by a consensus of the programmer/analysts and DBAs, who then presented the proposals to our boss. It would have been much different, and almost assuredly for the worse, had those things been imposed on us from the top down instead of from the bottom up.


As someone who worked in a deportment in which programmers were heavily managed, your assessment was dead on.
2012-12-20 09:22:52 AM  
1 votes:

starsrift: The interesting part to me here is that the Republicans can't balance the budget even while flirting with a minor tax increase, never mind cuts. They clearly have no plans or ideas on how to do what they want done. They're not just the party of "No", they're the party of "No Ideas". You'd think at the very least they could push up a bill that would get tossed back by the senate, just to show what they think needs to be done.

That's a long way for the Conservatives to have come in a relatively short time.


And they've been doing that for years. They've publicly stated that this strategy is all they have. They are a leaderless party devoid of ideas.
2012-12-20 09:17:08 AM  
1 votes:
The interesting part to me here is that the Republicans can't balance the budget even while flirting with a minor tax increase, never mind cuts. They clearly have no plans or ideas on how to do what they want done. They're not just the party of "No", they're the party of "No Ideas". You'd think at the very least they could push up a bill that would get tossed back by the senate, just to show what they think needs to be done.

That's a long way for the Conservatives to have come in a relatively short time.
2012-12-20 09:06:46 AM  
1 votes:

Day_Old_Dutchie: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I've never understood the rationale of the "no taxes! but don't cut military spending to save money!" sorts.

It's simple. The politicians are greedy bastards that won't raise a finger to help the nation, but they have no problems enriching each other - in fact, they think their moral duty is too their peers.

The sad thing is that the majority of these clowns are extremely wealthy in the first place; they don't need their salaries, bonuses or kickbacks (bribes? PACs?) and can live very comfortably on their existing wealth while they are in office.

They could send a message that they are serious about our future by saying they will accepts a token salary of 1$ for sitting in that chair. It won't save much initially, , but it just may influence others in a leadership position in government and business to forgo THEIR salary, or at least take a cut for "the team".

But it will never happen. We have an entitled bunch of selfish stubborn assholes running the show right now both in government and business who are more intent on helping their pampered peers accumulate wealth than actually looking at the long view,


They are also extremely good at ramming through laws that only benefit certain industries then lo and behold they "retire" and take cushy high paying consulting jobs in that very industry. It's uncanny.

I started out cynical. I don't think there's a word for how I feel now. Livid is close.
2012-12-20 09:04:43 AM  
1 votes:

Day_Old_Dutchie: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I've never understood the rationale of the "no taxes! but don't cut military spending to save money!" sorts.
 
It's simple. The politicians are greedy bastards that won't raise a finger to help the nation, but they have no problems enriching each other - in fact, they think their moral duty is too their peers.
 
The sad thing is that the majority of these clowns are extremely wealthy in the first place; they don't need their salaries, bonuses or kickbacks (bribes? PACs?) and can live very comfortably on their existing wealth while they are in office.
 
They could send a message that they are serious about our future by saying they will accepts a token salary of 1$ for sitting in that chair. It won't save much initially, , but it just may influence others in a leadership position in government and business to forgo THEIR salary, or at least take a cut for "the team".
 
But it will never happen. We have an entitled bunch of selfish stubborn assholes running the show right now both in government and business who are more intent on helping their pampered peers accumulate wealth than actually looking at the long view,

 
It never ceases to amaze me how short sighted some of these alleged people can be. I actually went to live in Norway with some of my family members for a short while. Their tax rates are very high, yet they are one of the wealthiest nations on Earth, with well kept roads, good public education, universal health care, an awesome naval force, etc. Probably a lot of things I don't know about as well.
 
Here in Cali, we've got potholes in our roads, a large homeless population, neighborhoods you'd never want to walk through, surly police and other shenanigans that are very unsavory. I guess if you want something done right, just go ask the nearest Norwegian. They seem to have it down to an art.
2012-12-20 08:52:39 AM  
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I've never understood the rationale of the "no taxes! but don't cut military spending to save money!" sorts.

 
It's simple. The politicians are greedy bastards that won't raise a finger to help the nation, but they have no problems enriching each other - in fact, they think their moral duty is too their peers.
 
The sad thing is that the majority of these clowns are extremely wealthy in the first place; they don't need their salaries, bonuses or kickbacks (bribes? PACs?) and can live very comfortably on their existing wealth while they are in office.
 
They could send a message that they are serious about our future by saying they will accepts a token salary of 1$ for sitting in that chair. It won't save much initially, , but it just may influence others in a leadership position in government and business to forgo THEIR salary, or at least take a cut for "the team".
 
But it will never happen. We have an entitled bunch of selfish stubborn assholes running the show right now both in government and business who are more intent on helping their pampered peers accumulate wealth than actually looking at the long view,
2012-12-20 08:48:08 AM  
1 votes:
Boobs, beautiful, beautiful boobs.

What were we talking about anyway?
2012-12-20 08:48:07 AM  
1 votes:

TheGreatGazoo: We're going off the cliff.

And even than is only about half what needs to be done to get the budget under control.


I think that's the best thing that could happen. People are focusing solely on the tax side and even if all of the Clinton taxes are reinstituted it is no more than a third of what needs to happen. Obama and Congress will only cut spending when there is absolutely no other choice.
2012-12-20 08:44:55 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Stuff them in a bag and throw them in the river.


The cats or the politicians? (I know which I would vote for, but I'm going to need a bigger bag)
2012-12-20 08:19:35 AM  
1 votes:

edmo: So they're feral now?


They've always been feral. We've just never noticed until now.
2012-12-20 08:17:03 AM  
1 votes:

wambu: The kind of kitty we need to spend time herding instead.
[i.imgur.com image 850x1231]


That woman's boobs are going to fall off one day.
2012-12-20 08:13:06 AM  
1 votes:
The kind of kitty we need to spend time herding instead.
i.imgur.com
2012-12-20 08:05:59 AM  
1 votes:

born_yesterday: heavymetal: So Boehner decided he was done "negotiating" and will tr yto ram "his plan" through congress, which has no chance of passing the Senate, and President Obama can "take it or leave it"? That is a load of B.S. Rather than work towards a solution for the sake of the American people, he would rather "grandstand" and play political games trying to force blame on the White House. I suggest Boehner look at the latest opinion polls as well as the last election results; the American people outside of the conservative entertainment complex's echo chamber aren't buying it. The President now has the upper hand in the negotiations, the momentum has changed and Boehner is the one negotiating with a weaker hand. Boehner needs to realize this rather than dig an even deeper hole in their approval ratings by trying to force the desire of a few wealthy elite on the American people.

The people that fund their campaigns haven't changed their position on the issue, so why should they?

Sure, there's a chance they could get voted out by dissatisfied voters. But if they don't toe the party line, there's a better chance they'll lose their funding, and lose the election to a 'Bagger that does get the funding.


I guess to do it out of a more long term view of what is best for their party and country. Toeing the line just causes them to become more marginalized due to representing only a small fraction of the population they are supposed to represent, as well as holding unpopular antiquated policy positions. Eventually they will only be able to win primaries but not general elections no maatter how much money they get. Basically what is happening to them now. Gerrymandering can only hold it off for so long. Just my opinion. I see exactly what you are saying.
2012-12-20 08:02:28 AM  
1 votes:

heavymetal: Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....

Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.

Ah, I didn't realize that when subby said "Congress" he actually meant "Grover Norquist."

It's true, the article is about Congress. However, if somebody who has signed the pledge votes "yea" on this bill because it's not technically a tax increase but would vote "nay" on the Senate bill because it technically is a tax increase, they would be somebody who could agree that both of those things is true.

Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.

I can. Grover is "moving ther goalposts" in an attempt to stay relevant. The moment Republicans who signed the pledge start compromising to revenue increases en masse, Grover Norquist no longer matters in any way in the American political theater. Grover knows this and sees the writing on the wall, President Obama holds the upper hand and tax increases are inevitable. Now Grover is in full damage control/spin mode. Watch as the more Republicans are forced to compromise, the more Norquist will movehis goal posts and try to rationalize it.


us.123rf.com
2012-12-20 07:58:32 AM  
1 votes:
Worst caturday thread evar.
2012-12-20 07:54:02 AM  
1 votes:

edmo: So they're feral now?


Feral Congress would be an excellent band name.
2012-12-20 07:53:54 AM  
1 votes:
GIS for "angry brain damaged cats:"

www.popcrunch.com
2012-12-20 07:51:07 AM  
1 votes:

heavymetal: So Boehner decided he was done "negotiating" and will tr yto ram "his plan" through congress, which has no chance of passing the Senate, and President Obama can "take it or leave it"? That is a load of B.S. Rather than work towards a solution for the sake of the American people, he would rather "grandstand" and play political games trying to force blame on the White House. I suggest Boehner look at the latest opinion polls as well as the last election results; the American people outside of the conservative entertainment complex's echo chamber aren't buying it. The President now has the upper hand in the negotiations, the momentum has changed and Boehner is the one negotiating with a weaker hand. Boehner needs to realize this rather than dig an even deeper hole in their approval ratings by trying to force the desire of a few wealthy elite on the American people.


The people that fund their campaigns haven't changed their position on the issue, so why should they?

Sure, there's a chance they could get voted out by dissatisfied voters. But if they don't toe the party line, there's a better chance they'll lose their funding, and lose the election to a 'Bagger that does get the funding.
2012-12-20 07:44:56 AM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....

Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.

Ah, I didn't realize that when subby said "Congress" he actually meant "Grover Norquist."


It's true, the article is about Congress. However, if somebody who has signed the pledge votes "yea" on this bill because it's not technically a tax increase but would vote "nay" on the Senate bill because it technically is a tax increase, they would be somebody who could agree that both of those things is true.
2012-12-20 07:39:02 AM  
1 votes:

Serious Black: Silly Jesus: Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....

Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.


Ah, I didn't realize that when subby said "Congress" he actually meant "Grover Norquist."
2012-12-20 07:31:29 AM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....


Grover has said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $1 million is not technically a tax increase. Grover has also said that letting the tax cuts expire for people making over $250,000 is technically a tax increase. Please explain how anybody could say those two things or agree that both of those things are true without being brain damaged.
2012-12-20 07:30:39 AM  
1 votes:
Obama is now being appropriately being described as being irrational. Well, that came a couple of years behind schedule.
2012-12-20 07:29:24 AM  
1 votes:
"Plan B" What an unnervingly appropriate name for a plan of destruction.
2012-12-20 07:11:46 AM  
1 votes:

pissedoffmick: These are the very same folks that spent a bazillion dollars running ads every 2 minutes for months and months touting how effective they would be once elected, right?


The ones I remember from the Republican primaries all vowed to cut spending and never allow the debt ceiling to be raised. So, they stated their goals of economic sabotage up front.
2012-12-20 07:08:21 AM  
1 votes:
Because anyone not sharing your exact viewpoints is obviously brain damaged.....
2012-12-20 03:14:25 AM  
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Apos: *hangs head in shame*


Look at it as having learned something new
2012-12-19 10:05:44 PM  
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Peter von Nostrand: now you'll have to imagine that the cats are angry and brain damaged

So was/is the guy that said it

/fark you, newt


At least that was the name of a book he wrote. Someone else could have coined it

/actually a real good chance of that
2012-12-19 09:24:24 PM  
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These are the very same folks that spent a bazillion dollars running ads every 2 minutes for months and months touting how effective they would be once elected, right?
2012-12-19 09:09:31 PM  
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