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2012-12-19 03:51:09 PM  
Well this is awesome.
 
2012-12-19 03:52:06 PM  
 
2012-12-19 03:56:55 PM  
They should hire Stephen Merchant for it as well, oh wait, they already have....

www.nndb.comi2.listal.com
 
2012-12-19 04:00:43 PM  
Jason Segel = not funny

/there, I said it
//Gervais could be cool
 
2012-12-19 04:02:37 PM  
I really dig Ricky. Now put Pilkington in as Oscar the Grouch's far-removed cousin and I'm there.
 
2012-12-19 04:04:48 PM  

strangeguitar: I really dig Ricky. Now put Pilkington in as Oscar the Grouch's far-removed cousin and I'm there.


You sir, are a genius.
 
2012-12-19 04:10:21 PM  
Well this is going to suck.
 
2012-12-19 04:10:53 PM  
Ricky Gervais would be a great villain in a Muppets movie. I hope that's his role.
 
2012-12-19 04:12:53 PM  
Disney's sequel to The Muppets...

God, that's depressing. Every time I hear that, my stomach does an unpleasant flip flop. Now I have to hear it with LucasArts as well as Marvel movies? What the fark?

Now, as for this "sequel" stuff, is it really a 'sequel, or do these people just not know what the fark they're talking about. So far, all of the muppet movies have been stand alone, none are sequels. I can totally see some clueless jackass labeling any second movie as a "sequel" though.

/God, I LOVED The Muppets, it made me have faith that they weren't lost forever. Those 90's abominations had left me very scared...
 
2012-12-19 04:14:26 PM  
Gervais is great, I just hope he doesn't use it as a vehicle just to tell us that he's an atheist.

That's what made Paul, with 2 other brilliant brits, suck.

Save your "preaching" for your stand-up or guest appearances.
 
2012-12-19 04:19:49 PM  

AiryAnne: Gervais is great, I just hope he doesn't use it as a vehicle just to tell us that he's an atheist.

That's what made Paul, with 2 other brilliant brits, suck.

Save your "preaching" for your stand-up or guest appearances.



Yeah, how dare he use his art form -  a form built around communication - to communicate his beliefs!
 
What kind of writer would use his writing to express a viewpoint?
 
2012-12-19 04:23:33 PM  
I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.
 
2012-12-19 04:24:24 PM  
Nothing more annoying than a prothlytising athiest
 
2012-12-19 04:30:05 PM  

Glenford: Elmo already put him in his place.


I see your comedy and raise you...

Celebrity Lullabies

actually, yours might be better, but this sketch is confined to the PBS/Sesame Street demographic.
 
2012-12-19 04:40:15 PM  

MattyFridays: No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same Completely different message, different flavor.

 
2012-12-19 04:40:36 PM  

enry: Jason Segel = not funny


Yeah, but you could see his love of the Muppets and what it took to get it back to the way it USED to, and SHOULD be. That was a labor of love, not money. Anyway, that's the way I saw it.

And on a related note, a favorite quote from ANY movie, and something I still say or paraphrase to this day, is Charles Grodin, from The Great Muppet Caper, saying "Thieves aren't breathing down your neck"
 
2012-12-19 04:47:15 PM  

buntz: Yeah, but you could see his love of the Muppets and what it took to get it back to the way it USED to, and SHOULD be


Wall-to-wall puns followed by a cover song?
 
2012-12-19 04:50:43 PM  

MattyFridays: It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.



No, that's ridiculous.  You absolutely should judge people for their actions and their beliefs, as they express them (since that's the only way you know of their beliefs, and those expressions are actions).  You absolutely should treat people according to how you judge them (e.g. trust people you find trustworthy, disbelieve people you find to be liars, etc.).
 
Moreover, people should be made to feel bad for having wrong beliefs, in the sense that you should show how they're wrong.  That doesn't mean harassing them, or attacking them, but it does mean they should feel embarrassed to believe in wrong things.
 
However, this goes both ways: if Adam believes X, and Eve believes Not-X, then they both are subject to each other's judgment, and can act accordingly.  If the issue of X being true or false is very important to either of them, it's likely going to mean they can't get along.  This is good.  It is good because it forces them to evaluate their positions, etc. if they're not willing to lose the other person over the issue.
 
Being wrong is bad.
 
2012-12-19 04:53:15 PM  

MattyFridays: I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.


THANK YOU!!!
I find him to just terrible. He carries himself like an arrogant prick no matter what hes doing and his comedy is just him acting like a complete asshole. I know some people will say that thats just the character but goddammit its an annoying character. Like the kind of character the kid in your high school improve class who didn't quite get what was funny would invent. It just... I can tell he thinks hes freaking funny and rather than making him seem genuine it makes him seem like hes a shiat eater.

\He's right up there with scrappy-doo and elmo in characters that should die from abscesses in their crotches.
 
2012-12-19 04:55:45 PM  

strangeguitar: I really dig Ricky. Now put Pilkington in as Oscar the Grouch's far-removed cousin and I'm there.


It also should star Clive Warren and Rebecca De Mornay
 
2012-12-19 04:56:12 PM  

moothemagiccow: Wall-to-wall puns followed by a cover song?


I didn't see it that way. I thought it was more in the spirit of the original Muppet Movie than anything since. I liked the songs (except the Chris Cooper rap song) and thought it was a really nice, family friendly movie.
 
2012-12-19 05:04:13 PM  

mattharvest: MattyFridays: It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.


No, that's ridiculous.  You absolutely should judge people for their actions and their beliefs, as they express them (since that's the only way you know of their beliefs, and those expressions are actions).  You absolutely should treat people according to how you judge them (e.g. trust people you find trustworthy, disbelieve people you find to be liars, etc.).
 
Moreover, people should be made to feel bad for having wrong beliefs, in the sense that you should show how they're wrong.  That doesn't mean harassing them, or attacking them, but it does mean they should feel embarrassed to believe in wrong things.
 
However, this goes both ways: if Adam believes X, and Eve believes Not-X, then they both are subject to each other's judgment, and can act accordingly.  If the issue of X being true or false is very important to either of them, it's likely going to mean they can't get along.  This is good.  It is good because it forces them to evaluate their positions, etc. if they're not willing to lose the other person over the issue.
 
Being wrong is bad.


Adam believes X. Nana's Vibrator doesn't give a shiat. Shut up, Adam. Just stop talking.
 
2012-12-19 05:15:15 PM  
Rickey's version of the Muppets theme song (doesn't have to do with anything, just thought it'd be cool, yeah, know what I mean)

On the record, I like Ricky Gervais in the Muppets next film. Now let's get to the song:

Right, it's time to play the music, yeah, time to uh light the lights, know what I mean,
it's time to meet these animal-shaped puppets on this huge stage in its enormity tonight,
It's time to possibly put on makeup, but not a lot as I don't want to look like a bronzed tomato, and time to dress up right, even though I'm comfortable with what I'm wearing truth be told, eh,
It's time to get things started, well it had to happen sometime, didn't it,

It's time to get things started on the absolutely sensational, inspirational yeah you bet your ass it will be, celebrational what kind of word is that exactly, Muppetational was that just made up, got to wonder about the origins eh,
This is what they call, hmm, what is it called, oh, right, the Muppet Show.

/ Blasphemy I know
// Huge Muppets fan
/// Can't wait for season 4 to be released on DVD.
 
2012-12-19 05:49:41 PM  
i269.photobucket.com

let him join the damn games
 
2012-12-19 05:52:06 PM  

MattyFridays: I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.



Looks like you are pushing your beliefs about free speech onto others.  Do not want.  Is your unfollow button busted?  
 
/heard of any atheist groups that killed in the name of their god?
 
2012-12-19 05:56:04 PM  

Mikey1969: Disney's sequel to The Muppets...

God, that's depressing. Every time I hear that, my stomach does an unpleasant flip flop. Now I have to hear it with LucasArts as well as Marvel movies? What the fark?

Now, as for this "sequel" stuff, is it really a 'sequel, or do these people just not know what the fark they're talking about. So far, all of the muppet movies have been stand alone, none are sequels. I can totally see some clueless jackass labeling any second movie as a "sequel" though.

/God, I LOVED The Muppets, it made me have faith that they weren't lost forever. Those 90's abominations had left me very scared...


Um, you *do* know the movie last year was done by Disney, right?
 
2012-12-19 06:04:06 PM  

serial arseonist: MattyFridays: I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.


Looks like you are pushing your beliefs about free speech onto others.  Do not want.  Is your unfollow button busted?  
 
/heard of any atheist groups that killed in the name of their god?


When you say things like this, it makes you sound stupid. You can't kill in the name of something you don't believe in. It's a false equivalency argument.

mikefinch: MattyFridays: I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.

THANK YOU!!!
I find him to just terrible. He carries himself like an arrogant prick no matter what hes doing and his comedy is just him acting like a complete asshole. I know some people will say that thats just the character but goddammit its an annoying character. Like the kind of character the kid in your high school improve class who didn't quite get what was funny would invent. It just... I can tell he thinks hes freaking funny and rather than making him seem genuine it makes him seem like hes a shiat eater.

\He's right up there with scrappy-doo and elmo in characters that should die from abscesses in their crotches.


His constant atheism bully pulpit is annoying when combined with the fact that the dude sounds like he's chewing Jolly Ranchers when he talks. When he is on TV, its a constant stream of mumble noises followed by that feces-munching grin. Watching the British version of the Office was an exercise in patience, and I tried as much as I could to give it my best shot.
 
2012-12-19 07:25:12 PM  

mattharvest: AiryAnne: Gervais is great, I just hope he doesn't use it as a vehicle just to tell us that he's an atheist.

That's what made Paul, with 2 other brilliant brits, suck.

Save your "preaching" for your stand-up or guest appearances.


Yeah, how dare he use his art form -  a form built around communication - to communicate his beliefs!
 
What kind of writer would use his writing to express a viewpoint?


We're talking about him being in the Muppets film. How would you like it if a singer/actor/whatever who happened to be a Christian did a project with the Muppets and tried to sneak in ways of using it to tell everyone that Jesus is The Way?

It's the Muppets. Save the "message" for some other venue.
 
2012-12-19 07:28:49 PM  

serial arseonist: MattyFridays: I'm not huge into organized religion, but a lot of people on twitter seem to think Gervais is a hero because of how outspoken he is on atheism.

No. Not really. A vocal atheist is no better than a fundamental Christian. Same message, different flavor.

It's OK to be a Christian. It's OK to be an Atheist. It's NOT ok to push your beliefs onto others or attempt to make others feel bad because of their beliefs.


Looks like you are pushing your beliefs about free speech onto others.  Do not want.  Is your unfollow button busted?  
 
/heard of any atheist groups that killed in the name of their god?


i26.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-19 07:49:00 PM  
Gervais and the new Muppets?

Yo dawg, we heard you like wannabes and has-beens....
 
2012-12-19 07:56:43 PM  
I thought Muppet movies were supposed to be fun?
 
2012-12-19 07:57:21 PM  
"Elmo, do you know what necrophilia is?"
 
2012-12-19 08:34:49 PM  
I read that as "douchiness" at first. What a douche.

/I ike Gervais though
 
2012-12-19 09:10:58 PM  

Mikey1969: Disney's sequel to The Muppets...

God, that's depressing. Every time I hear that, my stomach does an unpleasant flip flop. Now I have to hear it with LucasArts as well as Marvel movies? What the fark?

Now, as for this "sequel" stuff, is it really a 'sequel, or do these people just not know what the fark they're talking about. So far, all of the muppet movies have been stand alone, none are sequels. I can totally see some clueless jackass labeling any second movie as a "sequel" though.

/God, I LOVED The Muppets, it made me have faith that they weren't lost forever. Those 90's abominations had left me very scared...


The Muppet Christmas Carol was great.
 
2012-12-19 09:28:55 PM  

chewielouie: Mikey1969: Disney's sequel to The Muppets...

God, that's depressing. Every time I hear that, my stomach does an unpleasant flip flop. Now I have to hear it with LucasArts as well as Marvel movies? What the fark?

Now, as for this "sequel" stuff, is it really a 'sequel, or do these people just not know what the fark they're talking about. So far, all of the muppet movies have been stand alone, none are sequels. I can totally see some clueless jackass labeling any second movie as a "sequel" though.

/God, I LOVED The Muppets, it made me have faith that they weren't lost forever. Those 90's abominations had left me very scared...

The Muppet Christmas Carol was great.


But things like Muppet Treasure Island and Muppets in Space made me want to gouge my eyes out and pour sulfuric acid into my ear canals. To be fair, that was also pre-Disney, so that's not their fault, but I cringed when I heard that they bought the rights to The Muppets. The Muppets almost made me cry, it was so perfect. Hell, they even had Sweet 'Ums working at a used car lot again...
 
2012-12-19 10:33:38 PM  

serial arseonist:


Looks like you are pushing your beliefs about free speech onto others.  Do not want.  Is your unfollow button busted?

/heard of any atheist groups that killed in the name of their god?


1) I don't follow Gervais. But he gets RT'd into my timeline. Even if I blocked Gervais, he still gets RT'd into my TL. It's an annoying part of Twitter. You still have to see tweets of people you blocked if they're RT'd by someone you follow.

2) /David R. Waters.
 
2012-12-19 11:12:31 PM  

The Billdozer: Watching the British version of the Office was an exercise in patience, and I tried as much as I could to give it my best shot.


I couldn't do it. I finished one episode and i couldn't go further. I couldn't wrap my head around why someone didn't just beat him in an alley with a 2x4. Characters can be grating -- but not so grating that its unfathomable why the people around him haven't drowned him in a janitors closet.
 
2012-12-20 12:15:21 AM  
I'm just sad that due to his success, I fear Gervais will never make anything with half as much heart as The Office...or even Extras (despite the HUGE cameos). He hasn't exactly sold out as much as lost the voice that made him a lovable loser. I think we've had a bit too much Ricky. Maybe it's just me...

Now I just PRAY the same shift doesn't happen with Louis C.K. Don't think it will thankfully.
 
2012-12-20 07:59:07 AM  

Son of Thunder: We're talking about him being in the Muppets film. How would you like it if a singer/actor/whatever who happened to be a Christian did a project with the Muppets and tried to sneak in ways of using it to tell everyone that Jesus is The Way?

It's the Muppets. Save the "message" for some other venue.


Actually, the poster I replied to was talking about Paul, but regardless you're still a bit off.  Leaving aside the obvious "Muppet Christmas Carol", the Muppets already a vehicle for the views of the people writing.
 
For example, The Muppet Movie is a brilliant surrealist piece (how much more surreal, in every sense, can you get than a movie that involves not only the characters reading the script to their own movie, but then creating that very movie at the end of their movie before bursting into a song going "Life's like a movie, Write your own Ending").  However, it clearly advocates certain things the writers loved: free thinking, independence, the difficulties of romance, the need to avoid crass commercialism, etc.  Just because you <i>agree</i> with those views, you don't see it as prostelytizing, but it still is so.
 
Your problem is that you're presuming there is such a thing as a story that is both (a) good, and (b) not espousing a view.  I'd suggest the opposite: the only way to have a good story is to have meaning, and that meaning will always reflect (and advocate) a particular world view.
 
2012-12-20 08:06:37 AM  

Mikey1969: chewielouie: Mikey1969: Disney's sequel to The Muppets...

God, that's depressing. Every time I hear that, my stomach does an unpleasant flip flop. Now I have to hear it with LucasArts as well as Marvel movies? What the fark?

Now, as for this "sequel" stuff, is it really a 'sequel, or do these people just not know what the fark they're talking about. So far, all of the muppet movies have been stand alone, none are sequels. I can totally see some clueless jackass labeling any second movie as a "sequel" though.

/God, I LOVED The Muppets, it made me have faith that they weren't lost forever. Those 90's abominations had left me very scared...

The Muppet Christmas Carol was great.

But things like Muppet Treasure Island and Muppets in Space made me want to gouge my eyes out and pour sulfuric acid into my ear canals. To be fair, that was also pre-Disney, so that's not their fault, but I cringed when I heard that they bought the rights to The Muppets. The Muppets almost made me cry, it was so perfect. Hell, they even had Sweet 'Ums working at a used car lot again...


I liked Muppets In Space.
 
2012-12-20 03:12:29 PM  

mattharvest: I'd suggest the opposite: the only way to have a good story is to have meaning, and that meaning will always reflect (and advocate) a particular world view.


You obviously haven't heard the story of the grasshopper and the octopus...
 
2012-12-20 03:52:44 PM  
Have to say that the Muppet's movie was just awesome.  I was a bit worried at first that it would suck - but when the movie started, I instantly went back 30 years to my youth and I felt like a kid again.  That feeling is a very powerful one, one I wish I could hold onto like a warm blanket. They nailed it and it did bring a tear to the eye.  Hope the same writers work on the next one.
 
2012-12-20 03:58:49 PM  

mikefinch: You obviously haven't heard the story of the grasshopper and the octopus...


Advocating surrealism or Dadaism is still advocating a view.
 
2012-12-20 04:49:37 PM  

mattharvest: mikefinch: You obviously haven't heard the story of the grasshopper and the octopus...

Advocating surrealism or Dadaism is still advocating a view.


i suppose -- i actually have to say i very much agree with your point. Its why i scoff when people claim some documentary is unbiased.
 
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