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(Guardian)   English scientists determine TV dinners are healthier than latest celebrity chef creations of Nigella Lawson and notorious school-lunch scold Jamie Oliver   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 63
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2012-12-19 01:33:29 PM
Creme Fraishe.
 
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2012-12-19 01:39:21 PM
So are the TV dinners healthier or just smaller?
 
2012-12-19 01:45:02 PM
Nigella could serve me poop on a stick and I would love it.
 
2012-12-19 02:09:36 PM

johnryan51: Nigella could serve me poop on a stick and I would love it.

 
 
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2012-12-19 02:37:30 PM
Hungryman bourban beef even?
 
2012-12-19 02:40:28 PM
The chef cooked taste better, and leave you satisfied, rather than still hungry after eating cardboard tasting chicken that you're not sure what they put in it.

Plus you burn more calories preparing and cooking the meal than just popping something in the microwave. Not a lot of calories, but you're active, up, and hopefully enjoying yourself.
 
2012-12-19 02:42:44 PM

meat0918: The chef cooked taste better, and leave you satisfied, rather than still hungry after eating cardboard tasting chicken that you're not sure what they put in it.

Plus you burn more calories preparing and cooking the meal than just popping something in the microwave. Not a lot of calories, but you're active, up, and hopefully enjoying yourself.


Hormones and preservatives are 0g staurated fat and only 2 calories! Those are the only measurements for how healthy food is.
 
2012-12-19 02:46:28 PM

thecpt: meat0918: The chef cooked taste better, and leave you satisfied, rather than still hungry after eating cardboard tasting chicken that you're not sure what they put in it.

Plus you burn more calories preparing and cooking the meal than just popping something in the microwave. Not a lot of calories, but you're active, up, and hopefully enjoying yourself.

Hormones and preservatives are 0g staurated fat and only 2 calories! Those are the only measurements for how healthy food is.


Chicken has no added artificial hormones, at least here in the states. They've bred them to grow fast enough without the use of artificial hormones. Plus there is that whole being against the law thing, as well as farmers did not see any benefit for the cost back in the 40s when they tried first it.

Preservatives.... Salt works wonders still. Wait, we have a target of low sodium for some foods.
 
2012-12-19 02:47:43 PM
I'd also like to say I am upset the word "boffins" did not appear in the headline in place of scientist..
 
2012-12-19 02:48:28 PM
I took the time to read the report published by the British Medical Journal the article's author referenced. Bottom line is that chef cooked meals don't have enough fiber and ready meals have too much salt.
 
2012-12-19 02:51:04 PM

FlashHarry: johnryan51: Nigella could serve me poop on a stick and I would love it.
 
 
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are you.... are you going to eat that?
 
2012-12-19 02:55:25 PM
And the food I prepare at home is better than either. So what?
 
2012-12-19 02:55:50 PM
I will eat Nigella Lawson, just to prove a point. What point? Not sure yet.
 
2012-12-19 02:59:16 PM
Oliver's 30 Minute Meals recipe for meatball sandwich, pickled cabbage and chopped salad, for four people, is just under 1,000 calories per serving. His mini shell pasta with a creamy smoked bacon and pea sauce from Ministry of Food has 125g of fat and 63g of saturated fat. Lawson's beer braised pork knuckles with caraway, garlic, apples and potatoes has 1,340 calories per person and 102g of saturated fat. Fearnley-Whittingstall's Gill's poached leek and Dorset Blue Vinny tart contains 217g of saturated fat while his mixed mushroom tart (for two) has just 3.2g of fibre. Pascale's pork with calvados, caramelised apples and mustard mash has 1,161 calories per serving and a total of 147g of sugar.
 
The most calorific of the supermarket ready meals, on the other hand, was Tesco's chicken tikka masala and pilau rice, at 870 calories, and the highest score for saturated fat was its cauliflower cheese at 21.3g.
 
People aren't cooking an elaborate TV chef meal 21 meals a week.  Some people are, however, eating an 870 calorie meal three times a day, everyday.
 
2012-12-19 03:05:46 PM
Even the XXL Hungry Mans that have a day and a half worth of sodium?

/Thinking back I am vexed on whether or not I miss bachelordom.
//You could eat what you wanted, no kids but I would have to wash my own cloths...
 
2012-12-19 03:11:29 PM
Nigella Lawsom is just Paula Deen wrapped up in a classier British package.  That biatch carts around roast beef sandwiches in her purse for snacking while taking ten minute taxi rides.  Anyone who is taking healthy eating advice from her is delusional.  
 
2012-12-19 03:16:31 PM
Oliver is a tool.
 
2012-12-19 03:20:09 PM

The Muthaship: Oliver is a tool.


But at least he is no Flay.
 
2012-12-19 03:35:38 PM

Saiga410: The Muthaship: Oliver is a tool.

But at least he is no Flay.


Just add chipolte. Maybe some mango. Tada!
 
2012-12-19 03:41:17 PM
Furgal Gourmet and Naked Chef got me started cooking.  One turned out to like young men and red haired muppets a little too much and was forced into retirement.  The other turned into an arrogant ass torturing us to this day with his righteous bullshiat.
 
/not sure which one I dislike more
//Elmo sure gets around does he?
 
2012-12-19 03:41:59 PM

hb0mb: Nigella Lawsom is just Paula Deen wrapped up in a classier British package.  That biatch carts around roast beef sandwiches in her purse for snacking while taking ten minute taxi rides.  Anyone who is taking healthy eating advice from her is delusional.  


Never trust a skinny chef.
 
2012-12-19 03:44:42 PM

tricycleracer: Oliver's 30 Minute Meals recipe for meatball sandwich, pickled cabbage and chopped salad, for four people, is just under 1,000 calories per serving. His mini shell pasta with a creamy smoked bacon and pea sauce from Ministry of Food has 125g of fat and 63g of saturated fat. Lawson's beer braised pork knuckles with caraway, garlic, apples and potatoes has 1,340 calories per person and 102g of saturated fat. Fearnley-Whittingstall's Gill's poached leek and Dorset Blue Vinny tart contains 217g of saturated fat while his mixed mushroom tart (for two) has just 3.2g of fibre. Pascale's pork with calvados, caramelised apples and mustard mash has 1,161 calories per serving and a total of 147g of sugar.
 
The most calorific of the supermarket ready meals, on the other hand, was Tesco's chicken tikka masala and pilau rice, at 870 calories, and the highest score for saturated fat was its cauliflower cheese at 21.3g.
 
People aren't cooking an elaborate TV chef meal 21 meals a week.  Some people are, however, eating an 870 calorie meal three times a day, everyday.


What did they do, take the absolute fattiest foods from each if these chefs?

Also, it sounds like TV dinners are healthier un Britain than in the US. 800 calories sounds low.
 
2012-12-19 03:50:34 PM
English scientists...you mean there's a whole science behind English?
 
2012-12-19 03:58:23 PM

Mad_Radhu: hb0mb: Nigella Lawsom is just Paula Deen wrapped up in a classier British package.  That biatch carts around roast beef sandwiches in her purse for snacking while taking ten minute taxi rides.  Anyone who is taking healthy eating advice from her is delusional.  

Never trust a skinny chef.


I'm close to skinny. Why? Because I learned to cook well, for myself. No one else. They can fark off with their overcooked food. If I am eating it, it's farking awesome. Always satisfied. Never want more.

/people always want my leftovers
//beer is the reason for not skinny
 
2012-12-19 03:59:59 PM
That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.
 
2012-12-19 04:02:15 PM

hb0mb: Nigella Lawsom is just Paula Deen wrapped up in a classier British package.  That biatch carts around roast beef sandwiches in her purse for snacking while taking ten minute taxi rides.  Anyone who is taking healthy eating advice from her is delusional.


I'd still motorboat those tits.
 
2012-12-19 04:06:38 PM

Mad_Radhu: hb0mb: Nigella Lawsom is just Paula Deen wrapped up in a classier British package.  That biatch carts around roast beef sandwiches in her purse for snacking while taking ten minute taxi rides.  Anyone who is taking healthy eating advice from her is delusional.  

Never trust a skinny chef.


I'm pretty sure Paula Deen is a Fart-Laugher. e.g. she'll cut the worst, cheek-flappingest, loud, borderline shart, and then laugh maniacally as if it were the funniest thing ever.
 
2012-12-19 04:11:00 PM

kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.


Don't forget they banned all the OTC diet pills over the years too.
 
2012-12-19 04:16:04 PM

StoPPeRmobile: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Don't forget they banned all the OTC diet pills over the years too.



Bring back 60s amphetamine culture.  We were so peppy and skinny back then.
 
2012-12-19 04:36:38 PM
Nigella Lawson is a chef? I thought her show was food-fetish porn?
 
2012-12-19 04:42:53 PM

kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.


Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.
 
2012-12-19 04:47:00 PM
So you mean to say that 5 tubs of butter isn't healthy but artificial imitation food flavored chemical substitutes are? Is that like saying a hot lead enema is less healthy than drinking the greasy drippings from Snookie's buttcrack?
 
2012-12-19 05:09:01 PM
River Cottage Everyday by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall

I don't think I could come up with a more English name if I tried.
 
2012-12-19 05:21:04 PM
There is no mention of portion size at all here. If one portion of Nigella's food fills you up and one dinner doesn't, then who cares what is better? You will eat more after the frozen meal. Plus, fruit is high in fiber, and the type of person who eats frozen meals is not the type of person who eat's a lot of fruit. The person who cooks their own food is.
 
2012-12-19 05:21:09 PM
came for Nigella Lawson pics.

Leaving disappointed.
 
2012-12-19 05:22:22 PM

natazha: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.


I bet they're eating a shiat load of bread, pasta and potatoes - all sans butter.
 
2012-12-19 05:27:46 PM

tricycleracer: StoPPeRmobile: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Don't forget they banned all the OTC diet pills over the years too.


Bring back 60s amphetamine culture.  We were so peppy and skinny back then.


I understand the Crystal Meth diet is quite effective.
 
2012-12-19 05:38:22 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Saiga410: The Muthaship: Oliver is a tool.

But at least he is no Flay.

Just add chipolte. Maybe some mango. Tada!


Don't forget to add a splash of bourbon, sprinkle on some blue corn, and drizzle with maple syrup!

Dude seriously needs to discover new flavors, ASAP.
 
2012-12-19 06:01:17 PM
Fibre? what the fark is Fibre?

I better call Brett Favre and find out
 
2012-12-19 06:10:14 PM
No shiat. If you don't realize this you are pretty dumb about food.

In my college days I used to eat many of the pre-packed frozen food to lose weight (and not the lean cuisine or weight watcher ones) . Very good for portion control.
 
2012-12-19 06:15:38 PM

natazha: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.


Large amounts of saturated fat will kill you. But not before the diabeties from all that sugar. Its all about a balanced diet while keeping active.
 
2012-12-19 06:36:02 PM
No Nigella?
I sad.
 
2012-12-19 06:52:38 PM

Norfolking Chance: natazha: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.

Large amounts of saturated fat will kill you. But not before the diabeties from all that sugar. Its all about a balanced diet while keeping active.


According to who? I've heard lots of 'advice'. But never thought to look for actual studies. Or when those studies were done. And if they were 'funded' by drug companies.
 
2012-12-19 07:11:25 PM
I'm calling bulltwaddle,
the science of food is to damned complicated for any of this lab stuff to mean anything.
% fat % sodium, sure those are some sort of measure. But what about the vitamins and trace elements you get from cooking with fresh ingredients? Did they measure the source of the fat in the meals? Because I will take the fat from cream over the fat from rendered hooves and anuses every time. I know there was some research a few years back that showed people who drink full fat milk process fat more quickly (and store less) than those who drink that fat reduced crap (looks and tastes like the water I was my paint brushes in. Mmmmm ceiling white).
I know someone else has already mentioned feeling full and satisfied after eating, that is a damned good thing and it seems like my stirfry last night filled me up better than a frozen plastic tray of gristle and sog. Fat and sodium? Well; it had a metric gloop of peanut oil, drip of sesame oil and I went to town with the soy (both dark and sweet). But it had no sugar, no fructose, no stabilising agents, no 9468743 (or any sort of number). The boc choy, capsicum and eggplant all came from local market gardens (so it also had no petrochemicals used in transporting it 1000 miles to a factory and back). The rice, was plentiful (and made up the bulk (yes a pun) of the meal).

Plus, if you give a crap about how much fat is in your meal, take up a sport fatty. (if you are a fatty, I suggest rugby, it is getting harder and harder to find fatties who actually play a sport and rugby needs fatties). And rugby training = you have earned a beer.
 
2012-12-19 07:23:19 PM
Nigella Lawson is farking reckless. She puts butter on ice cream.
 
2012-12-19 07:52:09 PM

tricycleracer:
People aren't cooking an elaborate TV chef meal 21 meals a week.  Some people are, however, eating an 870 calorie meal three times a day, everyday.


You can't eat that much Tikka Masala, I know. I've tried.

However is that less or more than the calorie intake they are supposed to have on a daily basis? As a guy is supposed to be around the 2000 - 2500 per day mark from what I remember.
 
2012-12-19 07:59:58 PM

kroonermanblack: Norfolking Chance: natazha: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.

Large amounts of saturated fat will kill you. But not before the diabeties from all that sugar. Its all about a balanced diet while keeping active.

According to who? I've heard lots of 'advice'. But never thought to look for actual studies. Or when those studies were done. And if they were 'funded' by drug companies.


I thought many of the studies conflated animal fats with vegetable fats and declared all saturated fats bad.

Crisco = bad
Lard = not so bad.
 
2012-12-19 08:08:53 PM

meat0918: kroonermanblack: Norfolking Chance: natazha: kg2095: That assumes that the model followed for the last 3 decades of dietary fat being the cause of obesity is correct.

Oddly enough, ever since people have been encouraged to purge their diets of fat and replace it with carbohydrates there has been an epidemic of obesity.

Yeah, I have several friends that are certain FAT IS EVIL and all of them are 40-70 lbs overweight and still gaining.

Large amounts of saturated fat will kill you. But not before the diabeties from all that sugar. Its all about a balanced diet while keeping active.

According to who? I've heard lots of 'advice'. But never thought to look for actual studies. Or when those studies were done. And if they were 'funded' by drug companies.

I thought many of the studies conflated animal fats with vegetable fats and declared all saturated fats bad.

Crisco = bad
Lard = not so bad.


Shelf stable, I question it.
 
2012-12-19 08:11:28 PM
The only cooking show I watch is Giada.

At least they say she cooks or something, I don't know.

Salad stuff, and olive oil thingies, I think.

What were we talking about again?
 
2012-12-19 08:15:32 PM

LazarusLong42: Also, it sounds like TV dinners are healthier un Britain than in the US. 800 calories sounds low.


I've got 3 Marie Callendars in my freezer and the most calories is 560.

/prefers canned and refrigerated when it comes to prepared foods
 
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