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(Slate)   Monopoly comes out with a new "Entitlements Edition". Just hope you don't land on "Go to work"   (slate.com ) divider line 170
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2012-12-19 11:32:05 AM  
There's even a square for that? *shudder*
 
2012-12-19 11:39:19 AM  
You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 11:49:43 AM  
I can't see the video.  Do they mean entitlements as in Social Security or as in a sense of entitlement from being born rich and well connected?
 
And how about a vulture capitalist edition?  There aren't any bad squares on that one "IRS informant turned you in for your Swiss account, so you have to go for the amnesty" is as bad as it gets.
 
2012-12-19 12:00:41 PM  
This video appears to make fun of the people making fun of the 47%.
 
"$0.90 a day.  Ch-ching!"
 
"Now you get to roll around [in a wheelchair] for the rest of your life.  Lucky."
 
2012-12-19 12:13:13 PM  
Monopoly was first intended to teach about the faults of capitalism, specifically landlords getting richer off their poor tenants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_board_game_Monopoly
 
2012-12-19 12:16:13 PM  

vpb: I can't see the video.  Do they mean entitlements as in Social Security or as in a sense of entitlement from being born rich and well connected?
 
And how about a vulture capitalist edition?  There aren't any bad squares on that one "IRS informant turned you in for your Swiss account, so you have to go for the amnesty" is as bad as it gets.


It's a joke video.  It's a video mocking what Republicans think about Romney's 47% in the form of Monopoly.  Go to Jail is now Go to Work.
 
2012-12-19 01:06:26 PM  
Can I be a Romney in Monopoly?.

/Also, I want to use the car
 
2012-12-19 01:06:50 PM  
In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that.
 
2012-12-19 01:07:52 PM  
Where's the get off my lawn you sand n*** square?
 
2012-12-19 01:09:20 PM  
"I made a YouTube video. It got almost 8000 views. I deserve to be famous!"
 
2012-12-19 01:10:07 PM  
Social Security "entitlement" means you DID work.

Americas right: Angry that people want financial security...
 
2012-12-19 01:10:46 PM  

ChipNASA: In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that.

 

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-12-19 01:12:14 PM  
So, where is there a "leaked" sex tape, collect 5,000,000 and get your own reality shows Chance Card?
 
2012-12-19 01:13:57 PM  

vpb: I can't see the video.  Do they mean entitlements as in Social Security or as in a sense of entitlement from being born rich and well connected?
 
And how about a vulture capitalist edition?  There aren't any bad squares on that one "IRS informant turned you in for your Swiss account, so you have to go for the amnesty" is as bad as it gets.


So being born rich is different then being born with a defect? Like why are football players born with athletic abilities that's not fair!
 
2012-12-19 01:15:21 PM  

CygnusDarius: Can I be a Romney in Monopoly?.

/Also, I want to use the car


I wanna be a Geithner! Pay no taxes, pay no interest or penalties when caught, then get a job running the IRS and become a millionaire while I do it!
 
2012-12-19 01:15:30 PM  
That was pretty good very wkyk
 
2012-12-19 01:16:53 PM  
There's a Star Trek edition, right? Lets just play that.
 
2012-12-19 01:18:05 PM  

mediablitz: Social Security "entitlement" means you DID work.

 
Americas right: Angry that people want financial security...
 
Yeah, reducing entitlements is like lowering the balance on your bank account.  That's why you're "entitled" to it.  You'd think Republicans would find that worse than taxes.
 
2012-12-19 01:20:38 PM  

SlothB77: "$0.90 a day.  Ch-ching!"


Your the CEO of a large corporation, claim you can't keep jobs here with out subsidies collect $4 million bonus.

Your the CEO of a large corporation, your stock price has lost half its value collect $4 million bonus.
 
2012-12-19 01:22:20 PM  
zs1.smbc-comics.com
 
2012-12-19 01:22:30 PM  
I want to be a Rothschild. So basically I'll sit in the background and laugh as everyone else plays, never knowing that I actually own everything on the board already, including the chance cards, the pieces, and the table that the board is sitting on.
 
2012-12-19 01:24:21 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: ChipNASA: In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that. 

[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 683x690]


i lol'd out loud.
 
2012-12-19 01:24:37 PM  
Where do I get my Football Stadium Subsidy? Must be the Utility squares.
 
2012-12-19 01:25:18 PM  
There's a Star Trek edition, right? Lets just play that.

I have the Muppet version.
 
2012-12-19 01:26:31 PM  
Community Chest:
You Incorporate! Advance to "Now who's entitled, biatches?"
 
2012-12-19 01:30:43 PM  
i.imgur.com 

either directly to jail or entitled to $$$, either way - bad or good.
 
2012-12-19 01:32:30 PM  
Banking Error, you accidentally laundered $19 billion in drug money.
 
Do not go to jail.
 
2012-12-19 01:33:11 PM  

scubamage: I want to be a Rothschild. So basically I'll sit in the background and laugh as everyone else plays, never knowing that I actually own everything on the board already, including the chance cards, the pieces, and the table that the board is sitting on.


I don't need all their money and power. I'll just take Château Lafite off their hands and be happy, thank you.
 
2012-12-19 01:34:06 PM  
First of the month is here; you spend all of your welfare check on cigarettes, booze, drugs and junk food. Collect additional money from the government totaling $100.
 
2012-12-19 01:34:34 PM  
Guess it could also be: "Battered by officials, sue for millions. Become a symbol of civil peace and tolerance. Blow it all on drugs and hookers, End up dying broke in your own swimming pool. Your game is now over, but thanks for playing."
 
2012-12-19 01:34:58 PM  

imtheonlylp: Smeggy Smurf: ChipNASA: In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that. 

[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 683x690]

i lol'd out loud.



Damn ebaums is blocked at work....I'll see it when I get home.
 
2012-12-19 01:35:02 PM  
I liked "slipped on Boardwalk".
 
2012-12-19 01:35:45 PM  
test (sorry, my posting doesn't work logged in so I can't go to TF to test)
 
2012-12-19 01:36:04 PM  
While it might be fun to get all butt-hurt and pompous about this, I chose to simply laugh at it.

/it's a joke - it was funny
 
2012-12-19 01:36:08 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.


You mean like those unwashed hipsters, talking on their iphones, playing angry birds on their ipad and sitting in tents for month outside Wall Street?
 
2012-12-19 01:37:45 PM  

ChipNASA: imtheonlylp: Smeggy Smurf: ChipNASA: In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that. 

[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 683x690]

i lol'd out loud.


Damn ebaums is blocked at work....I'll see it when I get home.


i36.photobucket.com 

same image, different hotlink
 
2012-12-19 01:37:57 PM  
it's interesting to observe who does and doesn't understand that this is not a real product.
 
2012-12-19 01:38:52 PM  
Job Creators Prayer

Our Job Creators who art on Wall Street
Shallow be thy name
Thy profits come
Before everyone
In this country or any other
Give us this day our part time employment
And forgive us our desires
For stability, healthcare and a regular paycheck
And lead us not to a secure future
but deliver us from autonomy and self sufficiency
For thine is the Republic
And the Plutocracy, and the personhood from SCOTUS
For ever and ever
Amen
 
2012-12-19 01:38:53 PM  

PanicMan: There's a Star Trek edition, right? Lets just play that.


Superior Star Trek licensed board game.

geek-news.mtv.com

/hot
//no stinky abrams either
 
2012-12-19 01:39:36 PM  
Will the game be at a free or reduced rate for those that can't afford it, or will it just be given to them?
 
2012-12-19 01:40:13 PM  

shotglasss: CygnusDarius: Can I be a Romney in Monopoly?.

/Also, I want to use the car

I wanna be a Geithner! Pay no taxes, pay no interest or penalties when caught, then get a job running the IRS and become a millionaire while I do it!


Fine, but you get the shoe.
 
2012-12-19 01:40:49 PM  
WTG? Don't see an article, don't see a video. Anyone? Bueller?
 
2012-12-19 01:41:15 PM  
Heh I was amused by it. As was I with the Occupy Wall st Lego set, I guess I never saw that one from last year.
 
2012-12-19 01:41:59 PM  
Dims aint gonna like dis much - but heresa nice little porter to wash er down with
www.bluepointbrewing.com
 
2012-12-19 01:42:01 PM  

scubamage: I want to be a Rothschild. So basically I'll sit in the background and laugh as everyone else plays, never knowing that I actually own everything on the board already, including the chance cards, the pieces, and the table that the board is sitting on.


This.
 
2012-12-19 01:42:57 PM  
Would like for having Latvia.
Pass go give potato!
Lucky card say daughter too ugly for rape soldier!
Die in gulag.
 
2012-12-19 01:43:42 PM  
Conservative logic:

If it doesn't directly affect them it is an entitlement by a moocher.
If it affects them then it is their god given right and the government should be giving more to them more efficiently.

/what a wonderful way to indoctrinate your children into your world of derp.
 
2012-12-19 01:44:31 PM  
How much rent do they charge fo living under the boardwalk?
 
2012-12-19 01:46:00 PM  
What does the little girl say when she is "just visiting" her father at work?
 
2012-12-19 01:46:19 PM  

iheartscotch: First of the month is here; you spend all of your welfare check on cigarettes, booze, drugs and junk food. Collect additional money from the government totaling $100.


More like "You spend almost all you have on rent,electric,utilities and have maybe $20 left. This year everyone gets a gift from the .99 store down the road."
 
2012-12-19 01:47:19 PM  

PanicMan: There's a Star Trek edition, right? Lets just play that.


It's a miracle these people ever got out of the 20th century. They're still using money.

www.startrek.com
 
2012-12-19 01:48:15 PM  
Well, it's pretty easy to spot who did and who did not watch the video.
 
2012-12-19 01:48:27 PM  
I really enjoy the poetic justice in the fact that Romney's final vote percentage was 47.
 
2012-12-19 01:49:38 PM  

Citrate1007: Conservative logic:

If it doesn't directly affect them it is an entitlement by a moocher.
If it affects them then it is their god given right and the government should be giving more to them more efficiently.

/what a wonderful way to indoctrinate your children into your world of derp.


So teaching my kids to work and not to depend on government for every little thing in their life, making them take responsibilty for their actions and not blaming someone else for it is, or be a victim is derp?

Teaching your kids that they are owed something by simply exisiting and that the government will provide it is a lot more derpy.
 
2012-12-19 01:51:02 PM  

A Terrible Human: iheartscotch: First of the month is here; you spend all of your welfare check on cigarettes, booze, drugs and junk food. Collect additional money from the government totaling $100.

More like "You spend almost all you have on rent,electric,utilities and have maybe $20 left. This year everyone gets a gift from the .99 store down the road."


You should move someplace cheaper and turn the lights off once in awhile
 
2012-12-19 01:53:29 PM  

poot_rootbeer: it's interesting to observe who does and doesn't understand that this is not a real product.


Which is kind of hard seeing as how Slate states quite clearly they made it up.
 
2012-12-19 01:54:40 PM  

JackieRabbit: poot_rootbeer: it's interesting to observe who does and doesn't understand that this is not a real product.

Which is kind of hard seeing as how Slate states quite clearly they made it up.


Never let that sort of thing stand in the way of pitching an Internet hissy fit.
 
2012-12-19 01:54:40 PM  
The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
2012-12-19 01:55:07 PM  

GanjSmokr: /it's a joke - it was funny



It's a funny idea poorly implemented in the video.
 
2012-12-19 01:55:49 PM  
Is there a Farm Subsidy square?
 
2012-12-19 01:55:58 PM  

Billygoat Gruff: You should move someplace cheaper and turn the lights off once in awhile


Then what I save in rent will be directly spent for transportation since I can walk to everything in town,same with the electric company since they recently raised their rates but are the cheaper than the company that services places out of town. You can go strangle yourself in a closet with your bootstraps.
 
2012-12-19 01:57:40 PM  

iheartscotch: First of the month is here; you spend all of your welfare check on cigarettes, booze, drugs and junk food. Collect additional money from the government totaling $100.


Remember when Florida decided to drug test all their welfare recipients, and the testing program ended up costing more than the little money saved by kicking the tiny fraction of people off of welfare who tested positive?

That empirical study in the rate of drug use among welfare recipients could inform your view of welfare beneficiaries.

Or, you can just keep parroting talking points.

Your call.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:38 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: ChipNASA: imtheonlylp: Smeggy Smurf: ChipNASA: In before:
"Black People Board Games."
/or something like that. 

[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 683x690]

i lol'd out loud.


Damn ebaums is blocked at work....I'll see it when I get home.

[i36.photobucket.com image 428x432] 

same image, different hotlink



OMFG, I have seen that and I'm LOLing again. Yeah. that's *is* funny WELCOME TO FARK I GET JOKES
 
2012-12-19 01:59:25 PM  

poot_rootbeer: it's interesting to observe who does and doesn't understand that this is not a real product.


I know, right.  I came here to point that the spoof missed the point of what entitlements are.  (The vast majority of entitlements are subsidies to people in various industries, which ostensibly is to help working-class individuals, but often goes right into the pockets of megacorporations.  All the while upsetting prices of commodities and artificially marginalizing competing products.)  But it seems that that is too advanced for today's crowd.  We need to focus on the basics, like, "That commercial was a joke".
 
2012-12-19 01:59:26 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


You have fundamentally misunderstood both the practical roots of democracy, its philosophical justifications, and the sorts of actions it implies. Try again.
 
2012-12-19 01:59:31 PM  

Krieghund: GanjSmokr: /it's a joke - it was funny


It's a funny idea poorly implemented in the video.


www.bit-101.com
 
2012-12-19 02:00:27 PM  

mittromneysdog: iheartscotch: First of the month is here; you spend all of your welfare check on cigarettes, booze, drugs and junk food. Collect additional money from the government totaling $100.

Remember when Florida decided to drug test all their welfare recipients, and the testing program ended up costing more than the little money saved by kicking the tiny fraction of people off of welfare who tested positive?

That empirical study in the rate of drug use among welfare recipients could inform your view of welfare beneficiaries.

Or, you can just keep parroting talking points.

Your call.


Hey skippy; you might want to check the batteries on your joke-ometer.
 
2012-12-19 02:00:39 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


We'll let you tell all of those disabled veterans that.
 
2012-12-19 02:01:02 PM  

CygnusDarius: /Also, I want to use the car



I get the little doggie.
 
2012-12-19 02:02:08 PM  

TheWhoppah: What does the little girl say when she is "just visiting" her father at work?


"Make that cheddar" - slang for cash money
 
2012-12-19 02:04:07 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


My critical thinking teacher, who is an admitted member of the socialist party said the same thing. I took the class way back in 2004 before the word socialist became part of the daily conversation. But I suppose since he thinks that way, it doesnt make him a good socialist.
 
2012-12-19 02:05:17 PM  

aerojockey: (The vast majority of entitlements are subsidies to people in various industries, which ostensibly is to help working-class individuals, but often goes right into the pockets of megacorporations.


Social Security and Medicare are far and away the two biggest entitlements. I suppose you can say Medicare goes to pockets of medical megacorporations. Of course, in the process it gives millions of people decent health care. Other entitlements include food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF.

Which of these are you talking about? Or if it's not one of these, please specify what entitlements you're referring to.
 
2012-12-19 02:07:39 PM  
I'm still waiting for a more realistic version of LIFE, that has random things like "spouse leaves, income halved" or "infertility: you can't have kids."
 
2012-12-19 02:07:56 PM  

iheartscotch: Hey skippy; you might want to check the batteries on your joke-ometer.


Well, I understood it was supposed to be a joke. I just misunderstood the direction you were coming from.
 
2012-12-19 02:08:45 PM  

Lumpmoose: mediablitz: Social Security "entitlement" means you DID work.
 
Americas right: Angry that people want financial security...
 
Yeah, reducing entitlements is like lowering the balance on your bank account.  That's why you're "entitled" to it.  You'd think Republicans would find that worse than taxes.


I don't know where they get off calling this an "entitlement" you farking pay for it your whole working life, so it's not like foodstamps/welfare/medicaid.

The sad thing is that we'll probably never see a cent of it.
 
2012-12-19 02:09:30 PM  
thecpt

I'm still waiting for a more realistic version of LIFE, that has random things like "spouse leaves, income halved" or "infertility: you can't have kids."



In other words, things that have happened to you?
 
2012-12-19 02:09:56 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.


1/10

Image of a guillotine would have helped here
 
2012-12-19 02:10:08 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.

 
3.bp.blogspot.com
/damn Freeloaders
 
2012-12-19 02:10:26 PM  

hbk72777: The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.

You mean like those unwashed hipsters, talking on their iphones, playing angry birds on their ipad and sitting in tents for month outside Wall Street?


Yeah, that was 47% of the population, all right. Moron.
 
2012-12-19 02:10:29 PM  
scienceblogs.com

Approves
 
2012-12-19 02:12:10 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.



I know yousa trollin', but you just reminded me of an anecdote. My sister had to tell me this one since I don't talk to them any more.
 
My father said the same damn thing, after Mitt's double-up remarks about why he lost and around the time Pants-shiatting-Draft-Dodger said what you've so eloquently expressed.
My BIL said: "I think that's a great idea, G---, people like you really should not be voting."
Father gets all indignant, face growing bright red.
Everyone has to remind him that his household accepts disability checks, Medicare, and Social Security.
He Is The 47%.
 
2012-12-19 02:12:20 PM  

Cold_Sassy: I don't know where they get off calling this an "entitlement" you farking pay for it your whole working life, so it's not like foodstamps/welfare/medicaid.


They call it an entitlement because if you meet the statutory eligibility criteria for it, you are legally entitled to it.
 
2012-12-19 02:12:43 PM  
the butthurt is flowing in these responses
 
2012-12-19 02:12:43 PM  
i174.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-19 02:13:21 PM  

scubamage: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.

 
We'll let you tell all of those disabled veterans that.
 
 
imageshack.us
 
Oh snap!
 
2012-12-19 02:14:19 PM  

GAT_00: vpb: I can't see the video.  Do they mean entitlements as in Social Security or as in a sense of entitlement from being born rich and well connected?
 
And how about a vulture capitalist edition?  There aren't any bad squares on that one "IRS informant turned you in for your Swiss account, so you have to go for the amnesty" is as bad as it gets.

It's a joke video.  It's a video mocking what Republicans think about Romney's 47% in the form of Monopoly.  Go to Jail is now Go to Work.



... and also "double your tax rates". Gotta love a party that wants a guy who does roof repairs for a living to pay a higher tax rate than the millionare whose accusing him of being undocumented and lazy.
 
2012-12-19 02:15:39 PM  
tuxq

the butthurt is flowing in these responses



they better lube up - they have four more years of butt hurt to look forward to.
 
2012-12-19 02:15:45 PM  

karnal: thecpt

I'm still waiting for a more realistic version of LIFE, that has random things like "spouse leaves, income halved" or "infertility: you can't have kids."


In other words, things that have happened to you?


not quite yet, but it could with a spin of the wheel! The game of LIFE!
 
2012-12-19 02:16:12 PM  

mittromneysdog: aerojockey: (The vast majority of entitlements are subsidies to people in various industries, which ostensibly is to help working-class individuals, but often goes right into the pockets of megacorporations.

Social Security and Medicare are far and away the two biggest entitlements. I suppose you can say Medicare goes to pockets of medical megacorporations. Of course, in the process it gives millions of people decent health care. Other entitlements include food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF.

Which of these are you talking about? Or if it's not one of these, please specify what entitlements you're referring to.

 
 
I meant entitlements by number, not by dollar.  There are hundreds of entitlement programs in agriculture and other industries like construction.  At least to me, these are the bad entitlements because they are subject to so much abuse.  The fewer but bigger entitlements in social services aren't as bad.
 
2012-12-19 02:17:53 PM  

mittromneysdog: I really enjoy the poetic justice in the fact that Romney's final vote percentage was 47.


Really? I just find it depressing it was that high.
 
2012-12-19 02:18:13 PM  

karnal: tuxq

 
the butthurt is flowing in these responses
 
 
they better lube up - they have four more years of butt hurt to look forward to.
 
 
images.sodahead.com
 
2012-12-19 02:19:24 PM  

littlett's: So, where is there a "leaked" sex tape, collect 5,000,000 and get your own reality shows Chance Card?


I just have my 401k and pension plan. I like your idea better.
 
2012-12-19 02:19:38 PM  

Onkel Buck: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.

My critical thinking teacher, who is an admitted member of the socialist party said the same thing. I took the class way back in 2004 before the word socialist became part of the daily conversation. But I suppose since he thinks that way, it doesnt make him a good socialist.


It doesn't make him a good critical thinker either.
 
2012-12-19 02:19:52 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: I know yousa trollin', but you just reminded me of an anecdote. My sister had to tell me this one since I don't talk to them any more.

My father said the same damn thing, after Mitt's double-up remarks about why he lost and around the time Pants-shiatting-Draft-Dodger said what you've so eloquently expressed.
My BIL said: "I think that's a great idea, G---, people like you really should not be voting."
Father gets all indignant, face growing bright red.
Everyone has to remind him that his household accepts disability checks, Medicare, and Social Security.
He Is The 47%.


It is astounding how few people understand that when Republicans talk about cutting entitlements, that means they want cuts to Social Security and Medicare. They've somehow been convinced that food stamps and TANF are the only "entitlements," and that we can realistically balance the budget just by kicking all the "attractive and successful African Americans" off of them.

No grip on reality. None.
 
2012-12-19 02:21:32 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-12-19 02:21:52 PM  

limeyfellow: mittromneysdog: I really enjoy the poetic justice in the fact that Romney's final vote percentage was 47.

Really? I just find it depressing it was that high.


I see that point too. But you gotta agree, there's a hint of karma in that particular percentage.
 
2012-12-19 02:24:32 PM  

aerojockey: I meant entitlements by number, not by dollar. There are hundreds of entitlement programs in agriculture and other industries like construction. At least to me, these are the bad entitlements because they are subject to so much abuse. The fewer but bigger entitlements in social services aren't as bad.


I see. Well, for what it's worth, sometimes those subsidies serve legitimate social purposes. Conservatives are fond of the old "why are we paying farmers to leave their fields fallow" saw. But that program exists or did exist (I don't know if it's still around) to serve real economic and ecological purposes. Not all government subsidies are bad.
 
2012-12-19 02:28:34 PM  

mittromneysdog: Cold_Sassy: I don't know where they get off calling this an "entitlement" you farking pay for it your whole working life, so it's not like foodstamps/welfare/medicaid.

They call it an entitlement because if you meet the statutory eligibility criteria for it, you are legally entitled to it.


Ah, thank you.
 
2012-12-19 02:30:54 PM  
Can we see the "Tea Party Edition"? You still get entitlements but the main difference that is that you actually "earn" them and you also get to complain about govt spending.
 
2012-12-19 02:31:44 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders


I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either
 
2012-12-19 02:32:25 PM  

mittromneysdog: aerojockey: I meant entitlements by number, not by dollar. There are hundreds of entitlement programs in agriculture and other industries like construction. At least to me, these are the bad entitlements because they are subject to so much abuse. The fewer but bigger entitlements in social services aren't as bad.

I see. Well, for what it's worth, sometimes those subsidies serve legitimate social purposes. Conservatives are fond of the old "why are we paying farmers to leave their fields fallow" saw. But that program exists or did exist (I don't know if it's still around) to serve real economic and ecological purposes. Not all government subsidies are bad.



Here's what's bad about them:
 
www.optimist123.com 
 
That's a map of people receiving farm subsidies.  Story:
 
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/11/farm-subsidies-.html 
 
I don't trust the government to be able to prevent this kind of abuse, really, so I'd say better off without these kinds of subsidies.
 
2012-12-19 02:35:43 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders


Yea just look at how much they are costing us! (2000-2009) I wonder what those numbers look like now as more troops come home from the desert.
 
2012-12-19 02:35:43 PM  

Billygoat Gruff: Citrate1007: Conservative logic:

If it doesn't directly affect them it is an entitlement by a moocher.
If it affects them then it is their god given right and the government should be giving more to them more efficiently.

/what a wonderful way to indoctrinate your children into your world of derp.

So teaching my kids to work and not to depend on government for every little thing in their life, making them take responsibilty for their actions and not blaming someone else for it is, or be a victim is derp?

Teaching your kids that they are owed something by simply exisiting and that the government will provide it is a lot more derpy.


The first part was a blanket statement about the contemporary conservatives views. They hate government programs (the ones they don't directly receive benefits from). The 2nd part was that I disagree with teaching a child that poor people are less than human - this was before I realized it was satire.
 
2012-12-19 02:35:55 PM  

Onkel Buck: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

 
I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either
 
 
That's the danger and trouble you get into when you throw generalizations around too freely.
 
2012-12-19 02:37:16 PM  

Tenatra: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

Yea just look at how much they are costing us! (2000-2009) I wonder what those numbers look like now as more troops come home from the desert.


Damnit! unfetchable image -_-

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-19 02:40:45 PM  

aerojockey: mittromneysdog: aerojockey: I meant entitlements by number, not by dollar. There are hundreds of entitlement programs in agriculture and other industries like construction. At least to me, these are the bad entitlements because they are subject to so much abuse. The fewer but bigger entitlements in social services aren't as bad.

I see. Well, for what it's worth, sometimes those subsidies serve legitimate social purposes. Conservatives are fond of the old "why are we paying farmers to leave their fields fallow" saw. But that program exists or did exist (I don't know if it's still around) to serve real economic and ecological purposes. Not all government subsidies are bad.


Here's what's bad about them:
 
[www.optimist123.com image 347x574] 
 
That's a map of people receiving farm subsidies.  Story:
 
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/11/farm-subsidies-.html 
 
I don't trust the government to be able to prevent this kind of abuse, really, so I'd say better off without these kinds of subsidies.


What makes you so sure this map indicates abuse? It's perfectly possible that people who live in New York own farms outside of town.

And to be clear, the particular subsidy I'm talking about isn't just about "helping poor farmers." Rather, it is helping solve the "commons" problem that fields need to be kept fallow sometimes to preserve and restore soil nutrients, but that short term economic pressures cause individual farms to plant year after year, which over the long haul yields ecological disaster.

To me the question isn't "where do the farm owners live." It is "is this subsidy fulfilling a valuable social purpose?" If it is solving the problem, then candidly, I do not care if the beneficiary is an individual "poor" farmer, an agribusiness, or some snooty Manhattanite who draws income from some farm he owns out in the boondocks.
 
2012-12-19 02:40:51 PM  

Onkel Buck: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either



me either.... then again i tend to note how some users post snarky comments and make sure my batteries are good on my own snark meter too... go figure.
 
2012-12-19 02:41:44 PM  

MajorTubeSteak: Onkel Buck: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders
 
I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either
 
 
That's the danger and trouble you get into when you throw generalizations around too freely.



a whole lotta THIS  :)
 
2012-12-19 02:44:24 PM  

mytdawg: [i174.photobucket.com image 600x600]



I get the jist, but I don't think 1m in assets is all that much... in Manhattan, that's a 1br apartment... maybe have a higher limit... I don't think people should need to sell the family farm if they've been paying into SS and Medicare their whole lives.
 
2012-12-19 02:45:24 PM  
WhoopAssWayne
if you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society
 
to that  Scubamage said
we'll let you tell all those disabled veterans that
HindiDiscoMonster and
MajorTubeSteak
apparently agree
 
honestly kids, when the fark does serving your country in the military and getting injured NOT count as contributing?
 
2012-12-19 02:45:55 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Onkel Buck: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either


me either.... then again i tend to note how some users post snarky comments and make sure my batteries are good on my own snark meter too... go figure.


Retirees are a significant portion of that 47%, so who else would he be talking about?
 
2012-12-19 02:47:08 PM  

LemSkroob: scubamage: I want to be a Rothschild. So basically I'll sit in the background and laugh as everyone else plays, never knowing that I actually own everything on the board already, including the chance cards, the pieces, and the table that the board is sitting on.

 
I don't need all their money and power. I'll just take Château Lafite off their hands and be happy, thank you.
 
 
I prefer Château Mouton, though the '82 Lafite was outstanding.
 
2012-12-19 02:47:47 PM  

stevetherobot: HindiDiscoMonster: Onkel Buck: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

I never thought he meant veterans or retirees with that statement. Then again I dont go around looking to be offended either


me either.... then again i tend to note how some users post snarky comments and make sure my batteries are good on my own snark meter too... go figure.

Retirees are a significant portion of that 47%, so who else would he be talking about?



oh who knows.... I think he needs the Monopoly game from the other thread.
 
2012-12-19 02:48:16 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org 

This couldn't be more true...

/RAGEQUIT
 
2012-12-19 02:50:24 PM  
this is now so full of stupid, and strawmen
I'm out
 
2012-12-19 02:55:59 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
I got a monopoly on not having any Jews! I win!
 
2012-12-19 02:56:25 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: oh who knows.... I think he needs the Monopoly game from the other thread.



Did you forget where you are, again?
 
2012-12-19 02:56:33 PM  

natas6.0: WhoopAssWayne
if you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society
 
to that  Scubamage said
we'll let you tell all those disabled veterans that
HindiDiscoMonster and
MajorTubeSteak
apparently agree
 
honestly kids, when the fark does serving your country in the military and getting injured NOT count as contributing?

 
 
The problem comes in with the disconnect of WhoopAssWayne's comment.  Stating that 47% of the country does not contribute is just disingenuous silliness to provoke a childish response.  So he got what he wanted.
 
2012-12-19 02:57:19 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.


You keep saying that like it's ever going to happen. It sounds the same as when Christians stamp their feet and feel better, thinking that someone who screwed them over is going to go to hell when they die. There is no karmic justice in the world. The rich will have it good, and then die. The good news is that life really isn't that bad for the rest of us either. Even the poor can spend their entire lives consuming media made to distract them.
 
2012-12-19 03:01:59 PM  
Reminded me of this from when my kid was a tot.
Link
Use at your own risk. The Bank of Hasbro no longer allows consumers to manipulate the money supply.
 
2012-12-19 03:04:09 PM  

CygnusDarius: Can I be a Romney in Monopoly?.

/Also, I want to use the car



If that's the case, the dog piece automatically loses.
 
2012-12-19 03:05:38 PM  
This thread is getting weird even for Fark. Slate was just having a bit of fun, folks. Take the cue.
 
2012-12-19 03:06:44 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


When I was growing up, kids watched this repeatedly on Saturday mornings. You might do well to check it out.
Preamble
 
2012-12-19 03:12:26 PM  
www.zerohedge.com
 
2012-12-19 03:13:50 PM  

aerojockey: mittromneysdog: aerojockey: I meant entitlements by number, not by dollar. There are hundreds of entitlement programs in agriculture and other industries like construction. At least to me, these are the bad entitlements because they are subject to so much abuse. The fewer but bigger entitlements in social services aren't as bad.

I see. Well, for what it's worth, sometimes those subsidies serve legitimate social purposes. Conservatives are fond of the old "why are we paying farmers to leave their fields fallow" saw. But that program exists or did exist (I don't know if it's still around) to serve real economic and ecological purposes. Not all government subsidies are bad.


Here's what's bad about them:
 
[www.optimist123.com image 347x574] 
 
That's a map of people receiving farm subsidies.  Story:
 
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/11/farm-subsidies-.html 
 
I don't trust the government to be able to prevent this kind of abuse, really, so I'd say better off without these kinds of subsidies.


New Yorkers and other liberal city residents are notorious thieves.
 
2012-12-19 03:22:11 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


memecrunch.com
 
2012-12-19 03:23:00 PM  
Reminds me of a Monopoly story I wrote for a friend's faux-news site back in 2006. Link is now dead, so spamming below. ;)

Just in time for the holiday season, the Parker Brothers company is announcing a major revamping of its flagship board game in a new release it is calling, "Subprime Monopoly".

Whereas players in the original Monopoly earned money to buy and develop properties at fixed prices, in "Subprime Monopoly" players borrow obscene amounts of money to purchase overvalued properties with skyrocketing prices and borrowing costs.

"With the advent of the ongoing housing bubble and mortgage loan crisis, we thought the time was right to make some major changes to the rules of the game", says Parker Bros. creative director Mitt Mason. Originally invented by Charles Darrow in 1935, Monopoly first became a huge hit in the middle of the great depression, and has since been played by over 750 million people. "It seemed somehow fitting that we change the rules now that property prices are falling nationwide, given that the game was first popularized the last time this happened in the 1930's. And the way Americans buy and sell property has changed a lot since then. Who in America buys anything these days with money they have actually saved up, and who today buys property at a stable and reasonable price?"

While the goal of the original version was to end the game with the most money, in the revamped version all players finish the game broke or highly in debt, competing to finish with the least total debt and lowest number of foreclosures.

Rules updated

"We tried to model Subprime Monopoly's rules closely to the reality of the modern-day housing bubble, although the basic gameplay is still the same as the original", says Mason, who spearheaded the rule revisions. Subprime lending refers to the practice of making loans to borrowers who cannot qualify for regular loans because chances are high that they cannot hope to possibly pay the money back. And just to make sure subprime borrowers cannot pay the loan back, these loans charge much higher interest rates than is charged to regular people with actual, bonafide credit.
The subprime lending practice in the United States has resulted in the growth over the last several years of a large property investment bubble, or "housing bubble". This bubble is now starting to pop, and by 2009 an estimated two million U.S. borrowers who cannot afford to make mortgage payments are predicted to go into foreclosure.

Players still move around the same classic Monopoly board buying properties and collecting rent, but with a few key differences. In Subprime Monopoly, the game is split into two phases. The game begins in the "Irrational Realty Whore" phase, during which every player must buy any unowned property that his/her piece lands on, regardless of price, and develop houses and hotels on every owned property to the maximum potential. Every time a player passes 'GO' during this phase of play, all property, development, and borrowing costs in the game double for everyone, while rent fees always stay absolutely the same. Players undoubtedly end up borrowing large sums from the Monopoly bank to finance these purchases.

After all players have navigated the entire board three times, the "Reality Sets In" phase kicks in, and the rules dictate that the bank stop lending money to players. At this point, it is not long before all the players can no longer finance their debts, and so property investments are foreclosed for pennies on the dollar. Finally, one lone player not quite yet in solvency emerges the winner of the game with a mountain-load of debt and a pile of properties that nobody else is left to buy.

"I don't think I'm exagerrating when I say it really is fun for the whole family", beams Mason. "There's nothing that says 21st century America quite like a night of living beyond one's means, destroying your credit, and happily following an investment ponzi scheme that is doomed to failure". Indeed, Mason planned to call the game, "Housing Doom Monopoly", but changed the name at the last minute in order to not be confused with a popular U.S. housing bubble commentary website (www.housingdoom.com).

[Editor - story can end here]

Gameboard mostly unchanged

Unlike other recent versions of the game, Subprime Monopoly has left most of the game board design the same as the original. "We figured that the gimmick of changing the gameboard's property names to a given city's landmarks, or breeds of cats and dogs, just isn't as invigorating as it used to be."

One thing that has changed, however, is the game cards. Previously, a "Community Chest" or "Chance" card may have read, "Congratulations! You have won $15 in a beauty contest". In the new game, these have been replaced by "Fat Chance" and "Mainstream Media Drivel" cards that say things like, "Congratulations! Your local newspaper has published yet another article validating that house prices will only ever keep going up, forever and ever, and that your mundane town is a 'World Class' city that everybody and their dog wants to live in! Pay $35,000 for renovations on every property you own."

Disapproval from Realtors

Not everyone is excited about the new game, however. "This is disgusting. It makes a mockery of some very real and pressing issues surrounding American society today", says National Association of Realtors guru-in-training Sammy 'Slick' Schmillers, ", issues like why aren't people still out there buying up more homes? For crying out loud, stop wasting your time playing these stupid games, and get back to the business of borrowing more real money and buying more homes for your family! If we've told you once we've told you a million times, prices ain't ever coming down, so what have you got to lose? Get out there and buy, buy, buy!"

But even Schmillers could see a possible silver lining in the release of the game. "After citing journalists, bloggers, and even the weather as reasons for recent housing downturns, we're running a little low on new ideas. I suppose at the very least this game gives us a new outlet for blame."

[Editor - story can also end here]

More Educational Gameplay

Parker Brothers is also keen to point out the educational value attached to the new rules. "The original was always meant to teach children and families about the value of saving money to buy real estate, but how useful is that today? Now, children playing will be forced to learn about concepts much more applicable to modern American life, like escalating interest rates, frenzied investing, liar loans, and how to file for chapter 11. And if we're really lucky, maybe the kids will teach mom and dad what that's all about, too."

A more subtle change from the original gameplay is the concept of who owns what. Just like Americans today, players in Subprime Monopoly don't end the game as property owners. Whereas in the original game, players owned properties with homes, players of the new version only own massive debt backed by overvalued assets, and so in fact the Monopoly bank owns the players.
 
2012-12-19 03:26:42 PM  
This is a spoof.

There is however a real board game that does actually exist and uses this exact idea. It was released in the 80s but was released again... "Obozo's America".
 
2012-12-19 03:32:11 PM  

randomjsa: This is a spoof.

There is however a real board game that does actually exist and uses this exact idea. It was released in the 80s but was released again... "Obozo's America".


Weird that they'd release something with a derivative of Obama's name in the 80's.
/Oh wait you're lying again.
//Or just fail at sentence construction.
 
2012-12-19 03:46:05 PM  
Does a free phone come with the game and can I use my Link card to pay for it?

If so, these things will sell like hot cakes
 
2012-12-19 03:54:16 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: HindiDiscoMonster: oh who knows.... I think he needs the Monopoly game from the other thread.


Did you forget where you are, again?



i think i did... wait... what was the question?
 
2012-12-19 03:55:35 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.


No, he had it right the first time. Mad?
 
2012-12-19 03:59:18 PM  

vpb: I can't see the video.  Do they mean entitlements as in Social Security or as in a sense of entitlement from being born rich and well connected?
 
And how about a vulture capitalist edition?  There aren't any bad squares on that one "IRS informant turned you in for your Swiss account, so you have to go for the amnesty" is as bad as it gets.


Monopoly version of Lucky Ducky's life
 
2012-12-19 04:01:55 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.

You have fundamentally misunderstood both the practical roots of democracy, its philosophical justifications, and the sorts of actions it implies. Try again.


But shouldn't "no taxation without representation" work the other way as well? Ugh, who am I kidding. This is Fark. Haven for butthurt, pompous liberals.
 
2012-12-19 04:04:23 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Holocaust Agnostic: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.

 
You have fundamentally misunderstood both the practical roots of democracy, its philosophical justifications, and the sorts of actions it implies. Try again.
 
But shouldn't "no taxation without representation" work the other way as well? Ugh, who am I kidding. This is Fark. Haven for butthurt, pompous liberals, Republinazis.
 
 
/FTFY... you're welcome.
 
2012-12-19 04:06:22 PM  
Why yes, I guess I do feel "entitled" to get the benefits I paid for. Sort of like the bank feels "entitled" to their mortgage payments.
 
2012-12-19 04:11:28 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders


They got shot at in defense of freedom, not shot at because they insist on living too close to the local crackhouse so they don't have to walk so far. They earned to right to sit on their ass. Have you?
 
2012-12-19 04:13:57 PM  

hdhale: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

They got shot at in defense of freedom, not shot at because they insist on living too close to the local crackhouse so they don't have to walk so far. They earned to right to sit on their ass. Have you?



wow, another person with a broken snark-o-meter... guess i am gonna have to start buying them by the case...
 
/yes, yes i have btw
 
2012-12-19 04:15:51 PM  

ghare: Why yes, I guess I do feel "entitled" to get the benefits I paid for. Sort of like the bank feels "entitled" to their mortgage payments.

 
 
hotdogprofits.com
 
2012-12-19 04:20:26 PM  

randomjsa: This is a spoof.

 
There is however a real board game that does actually exist and uses this exact idea. It was released in the 80s but was released again... "Obozo's America".
 
 
Ahhh.  That would explain the dude's 80's mullet.  
 
/ they called, want it back
 
2012-12-19 04:21:23 PM  

hdhale: HindiDiscoMonster: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.
 
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 705x471]
/damn Freeloaders

They got shot at in defense of freedom, not shot at because they insist on living too close to the local crackhouse so they don't have to walk so far. They earned to right to sit on their ass. Have you?


You realize that a lot of the so-called 47% that don't pay income taxes aren't just 'sitting on their ass', even if they aren't Veterans, right?

For instance, I don't pay income tax. I'm going to go check soon if I qualify for food stamps. Guess what I do?

I'm a grad student in physics. Clearly this is a worthless thing for me to do that will in no way benefit the country, and I'm just a worthless moocher since I only make ~1600 a month and don't pay income taxes. Nevermind the fact that I am effectively a nigh-free research drone for the country (as are all grad students), working way more than our supposed '20 hours' a week for pay that is arguably below the poverty line in some areas (since we *must* live close to a campus to be able to, well, be graduate students)

No, we're all just worthless moochers.

/In short, fark off.
 
2012-12-19 04:32:28 PM  

mittromneysdog: To me the question isn't "where do the farm owners live." It is "is this subsidy fulfilling a valuable social purpose?" If it is solving the problem, then candidly, I do not care if the beneficiary is an individual "poor" farmer, an agribusiness, or some snooty Manhattanite who draws income from some farm he owns out in the boondocks.


Why should someone wealthy enough to live in Manhattan be receiving a farm subsidy?

When you suggest that the subsidy solves a social problem you should be considerate enough to ensure your solution doesn't cause just as many problems. The subsidies you are so fine with are leading to the destruction of small farms all over the american midwest. This disconnects people from their ownership of the land they farm. Some twat in NY now owns huge tracts of land and can use his "farm subsidies" to make his mega farm so competitive he runs keeps the remaining locals from being able to run their business.

The subsidy that was supposed to help the small farmer keep his farm sustainable isn't helping him nearly as much as it helps the guy who he is competing with who absolutely doesn't need the subsidy.
 
2012-12-19 04:44:23 PM  

Tenatra: TheWhoppah: What does the little girl say when she is "just visiting" her father at work?

"Make that cheddar" - slang for cash money


Thanks. I must be old now.
 
2012-12-19 04:58:16 PM  

DerpHerder: So being born rich is different then being born with a defect? Like why are football players born with athletic abilities that's not fair!


remember to vote for Handicapper General.
 
2012-12-19 05:01:23 PM  

TheWhoppah: Tenatra: TheWhoppah: What does the little girl say when she is "just visiting" her father at work?

"Make that cheddar" - slang for cash money

Thanks. I must be old now.


It seems to have came from the hip hop scene in the 90's, they were probably just trying to portray here as a inner city underprivileged kid when she said that.
 
2012-12-19 05:02:44 PM  
here
 
2012-12-19 05:09:23 PM  

mittromneysdog: Remember when Florida decided to drug test all their welfare recipients, and the testing program ended up costing more than the little money saved by kicking the tiny fraction of people off of welfare who tested positive?


Um...

"Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them"

Assuming those 40 people who cancelled tests did so because they knew they'd be positive (as opposed to canceling them out of principle), that's 148 out of 4086 applicants who were on drugs, or 3.6%. With a welfare budget of "$13,659.2 million" (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/statelocal_spending_2010FLmn), that means 3.6% = $49,291,200

$50 million isn't chump change.
 
2012-12-19 05:23:40 PM  

fredklein: mittromneysdog: Remember when Florida decided to drug test all their welfare recipients, and the testing program ended up costing more than the little money saved by kicking the tiny fraction of people off of welfare who tested positive?

Um...

"Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them"

Assuming those 40 people who cancelled tests did so because they knew they'd be positive (as opposed to canceling them out of principle), that's 148 out of 4086 applicants who were on drugs, or 3.6%. With a welfare budget of "$13,659.2 million" (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/statelocal_spending_2010FLmn), that means 3.6% = $49,291,200

$50 million isn't chump change.


Now if only they could find the ones that sell their food stamps to other people for money.
 
2012-12-19 05:41:10 PM  

fredklein: mittromneysdog: Remember when Florida decided to drug test all their welfare recipients, and the testing program ended up costing more than the little money saved by kicking the tiny fraction of people off of welfare who tested positive?

Um...

"Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them"

Assuming those 40 people who cancelled tests did so because they knew they'd be positive (as opposed to canceling them out of principle), that's 148 out of 4086 applicants who were on drugs, or 3.6%. With a welfare budget of "$13,659.2 million" (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/statelocal_spending_2010FLmn), that means 3.6% = $49,291,200

$50 million isn't chump change.


It is when the tests cost you $49,765,394.75 to administer.
 
2012-12-19 05:49:47 PM  

SlothB77: This video appears to make fun of the people making fun of the 47%.
 
"$0.90 a day.  Ch-ching!"
 
"Now you get to roll around [in a wheelchair] for the rest of your life.  Lucky."



Poor children in my area are eligible for $37,000 per year in benefits paid for by the public. A single woman with 4 children who works and earns 27,000 per year has a total household annual value of $211,000 by the time you total up the cost of all benefits available. That is NOT to say she has $211,000 in cash to spend, but that much in terms of cash resources are spent on her behalf. Her actual cash in hand would be her income plus about $3500 a month from SSID and SNAP and TANF. Remember this is based on the kids being eligible for all available assistance including education. 
 
Going from broke to a millionaire in a wheelchair is actually a pretty good retirement plan if you have kids. Sign me up. 
 
2012-12-19 06:17:44 PM  

mikefinch: Why should someone wealthy enough to live in Manhattan be receiving a farm subsidy?


Because if he would otherwise choose to plant a field that should be kept fallow for ecological reasons, the subsidy is still serving its purpose.
 
2012-12-19 06:24:07 PM  

Felgraf: I'm a grad student in physics. Clearly this is a worthless thing for me to do


it probably is, since you're likely going to be competing for the tiniest of tiny numbers of teaching positions, working on Wall Street, or unemployed when you're done with that
 
2012-12-19 06:27:57 PM  
Google " Public Assistance" board game.
 
2012-12-19 06:28:39 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.


.
Perhaps if you didn't blow money on things like Total Fark you wouldn't be so farking strapped for cash.
 
2012-12-19 06:30:52 PM  
"Perhaps if you didn't blow money on things like Total Fark you wouldn't be so farking strapped for cash."

Ah yes, "If you didn't buy (really inexpensive frivoulous thing) maybe you could buy (really expensive useful thing!)" Stupid.
 
2012-12-19 06:53:59 PM  
Wait. Am I supposed to feel sympathy for poor people with that? F*ck it, who cares? That's hilarious.
 
2012-12-19 07:00:02 PM  

doglover: $50 million isn't chump change.

It is when the tests cost you $49,765,394.75 to administer.


Drug tests cost $12,179.48 each??
 
2012-12-19 07:39:26 PM  

fredklein: doglover: $50 million isn't chump change.

It is when the tests cost you $49,765,394.75 to administer.

Drug tests cost $12,179.48 each??


You think to much of people that are higher up, plus if someone pitches the idea good enough and it looks good in the long run then they will buy it. I've had an instructor that has been on 2 different boards and he said that a lot of their ideas are absurd. Two suggestions he told us about.

Board 1 - We need to hire someone to hold open the door.
Board 2 - We need to hire someone to sharpen pencils.
 
2012-12-19 08:03:54 PM  

Jaws_Victim: PanicMan: There's a Star Trek edition, right? Lets just play that.

Superior Star Trek licensed board game.



/hot
//no stinky abrams either


Picked that up at blackfriday prices awesome version!
 
2012-12-19 09:09:59 PM  
The video was funny. I am kinda sad that it is not made by Hasbro. I would so go out and buy a copy. I would take it to work and see who would play it with me in the faculty break room.
 
2012-12-19 10:33:54 PM  

Tommy Moo: The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."
 
But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.

You keep saying that like it's ever going to happen. It sounds the same as when Christians stamp their feet and feel better, thinking that someone who screwed them over is going to go to hell when they die. There is no karmic justice in the world. The rich will have it good, and then die. The good news is that life really isn't that bad for the rest of us either. Even the poor can spend their entire lives consuming media made to distract them.



The problem with your analogy is that one of these things has happened before in the past.
 
2012-12-19 10:47:03 PM  

BigJake: Felgraf: I'm a grad student in physics. Clearly this is a worthless thing for me to do

it probably is, since you're likely going to be competing for the tiniest of tiny numbers of teaching positions, working on Wall Street, or unemployed when you're done with that


You do realize that physics covers a WAAAAYYY broader stretch than teaching and the LHC, right? That, like, there are physicist researchers employed at a lot of labs, including DARPA? I'm not a *theoretical* physicist, either. I work in nanophysics. you know, where a SHIATTON of medical and engineering advancements are going to come from.
 
2012-12-19 11:17:27 PM  

Felgraf: BigJake: Felgraf: I'm a grad student in physics. Clearly this is a worthless thing for me to do

it probably is, since you're likely going to be competing for the tiniest of tiny numbers of teaching positions, working on Wall Street, or unemployed when you're done with that

You do realize that physics covers a WAAAAYYY broader stretch than teaching and the LHC, right? That, like, there are physicist researchers employed at a lot of labs, including DARPA? I'm not a *theoretical* physicist, either. I work in nanophysics. you know, where a SHIATTON of medical and engineering advancements are going to come from.


What you do sounds neat but what do I know? I'm just a full time caretaker for my mom and fiance. They're both rather disabled but don't you know we're all just moochers sucking off the teat of some poor millionaire while he cries tears of jealousy of our lifestyles?
 
2012-12-19 11:21:17 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Tommy Moo: The My Little Pony Killer: You said "entitlements" when what you meant was "people who actually have to work (and do a good job) for a living instead of farking everything up royally and then waiting to collect their hefty bonus."

But if it makes you feel better to think that I might be jealous of the fact that you'll be one of the first up against the wall, go with it.

You keep saying that like it's ever going to happen. It sounds the same as when Christians stamp their feet and feel better, thinking that someone who screwed them over is going to go to hell when they die. There is no karmic justice in the world. The rich will have it good, and then die. The good news is that life really isn't that bad for the rest of us either. Even the poor can spend their entire lives consuming media made to distract them.


The problem with your analogy is that one of these things has happened before in the past.


French Revolution? Ok, maybe once. I just don't see it happening here. As long as poor people are fed and entertained, they will never revolt. The upper class is smart enough to just keep the poor at a level where they are annoyed, but not frothing mad.
 
2012-12-19 11:47:42 PM  

Tommy Moo: The upper class is smart enough to just keep the poor at a level where they are annoyed, but not frothing mad.


Methinks they used to be smart enough. I'm starting to wonder, though.

/not execting a revolution
//secretly hoping for a mild one
 
2012-12-19 11:49:15 PM  

lil_johnny: execting


expecting even
 
2012-12-20 12:01:28 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: WhoopAssWayne: The idea that the Freeloading 47% get an equal vote in this country is just beyond ridiculous. If you make a choice not to contribute to society, then you don't get a vote in that society.


I know yousa trollin', but you just reminded me of an anecdote. My sister had to tell me this one since I don't talk to them any more.

My father said the same damn thing, after Mitt's double-up remarks about why he lost and around the time Pants-shiatting-Draft-Dodger said what you've so eloquently expressed.
My BIL said: "I think that's a great idea, G---, people like you really should not be voting."
Father gets all indignant, face growing bright red.
Everyone has to remind him that his household accepts disability checks, Medicare, and Social Security.
He Is The 47%.


Sigh. So am I. UI going on 4 years now (new claims based on temp jobs) and wife's on disability. So farking what? I worked like a dog for 40+ years, page a SHIAT-LOAD of taxes, most of which got frittered away by venal politicians on insane pork barrel projects, paid government retiree 6 figure pensions, went to support 3rd world dictators, went to support military presence in over 130 nations, and so forth. I figure this great country owes me some minimal support. Deal with it.

Two points:

1) >>>>"I know yousa trollin',...." Really? Because he said something you disagree with? That seems to be the standard Libtard response these days, instead of rational argument.

2) >>>>>"Everyone has to remind him that his household accepts disability checks, Medicare, and Social Security." First, Disability is part of Social Security and may or may not have been paid for by the recipient. SS has several programs. My wife, for example, is getting Disability because she is mentally disabled. She didn't pay into the system to get it... but *I* did. I've paid a shiat-load more of SS taxes than I will ever see, even if I live to be 120, so I figure that she is getting part of my fair share. 2nd, when I apply for SS it will be getting back the money I put into the system. I also seem to recall a medical deduction on my pay stubs.

You Libtards seem to take great delight in raking "bootstrappy" conservatives over the coals for accepting things like Social Security. Perhaps you should farking know what you are talking about before you open your buttholes to speak.
 
2012-12-20 12:16:34 AM  
Yo. Dude. First off, I'm a moderate republican. Secondly, Wayne is a well known 'troll for fun' sorta guy. He's farkin' with ya. And that's awesome that you voted for your boy even though he flat out called you/your wife a moocher who loves being a victim. All the power to you, bro.
 
/dad?
 
2012-12-20 12:29:26 AM  

mittromneysdog: Because if he would otherwise choose to plant a field that should be kept fallow for ecological reasons, the subsidy is still serving its purpose.


But its fiscally irresponsible and encourages noncompetitive business practice.

Its basis is ecological? You give the farmer extra money to keep him from planting for a year to make an extra buck right? But the subsidy harkens from a time when those farmers would have starved to death with their wives and kids if they didn't make that money. Many large farms can factor fallow fields and things like the extra cost of zero till into their operating cost. The smaller farms lose the benefit of the subsidy because their larger competitors dont need the money and still get it allowing them to boost their margins and drive out the smaller farms. Suddenly there are no small farms and only huge farms with budgets large enough to factor in the cost of fallow fields and the like. Big farms that are already considering the cost of sustainable farming don't need the extra money.

You shouldn't get extra money from the government for running your business responsibly.

Workers are required by law to get a paid break for a certain amount of time. Because its good for their health -- the same way being fallow is good for a field. Should Mcdonalds get a government hand out to make up for the paid breaks they were required by law to give their employees?

So in the end the subsidy isn't keeping the field fallow -- the big farm owners would know in the long run their returns from the land will be greater if they act environmentally responsible. They are fiscally able to do so and doing so is not an unexpected hit against their books. So it isn't serving its purpose.

Is it possible that the ecosystem could be protected by some other method? I'm just suggesting that the same result can likely be achieved without the government wasting billions in cash destroying small business owners and propping up people who don't need propping up.

\Did i bite?
 
2012-12-20 08:54:35 AM  
Cue the knee-jerk butthurt over a silly joke video.
 
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