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2012-12-19 02:51:56 PM  
How much you wanna bet there's at least 3 Confederate flags in that trailer?

\not counting the one tatooed above mom's ass crack, of course
 
2012-12-19 02:53:57 PM  

Moonfisher: This may be an unpopular opinion, but incest laws should go away. Is it gross as all fark? Yes. Should it be illegal? Probably not. I think to some degree these laws persist so they can charge child molesters with additional violations, which I could get behind. But if this was consensual and they were both adults, well...


I thought it was for the good of the gene pool and the well being of potential children.
 
2012-12-19 02:54:03 PM  
Is incest a punishable crime? It sounds like he raped her but the mom wouldn't press charges. So they can charge him with incest instead? Ya, it's kind of disgusting, but is it a crime when it occurs between adults?
 
2012-12-19 02:55:17 PM  

DogPurse: According to Wikipedia you can get life for farking your sister in several states, Alabama included


This is a good reason to fark your sister only in one state. Or two, at the most. I think the legal definition of "several" is "three."
 
2012-12-19 02:56:16 PM  
Sweet home Alabama!
 
2012-12-19 02:58:23 PM  
The law...


794.011(4)(a) Commits Sexual Battery; Victim 12 Or Older And Physically Helpless

(4) A person who commits sexual battery upon a person 12 years of age or older without that person's consent, under any of the following circumstances, commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082,s. 775.083, s. 775.084,or s. 794.0115:

(a) When the victim is physically helpless to resist.

(1) As used in this chapter:

(a) "Consent" means intelligent, knowing, and voluntary consent and does not include coerced submission. "Consent" shall not be deemed or construed to mean the failure by the alleged victim to offer physical resistance to the offender.

(e) "Physically helpless" means unconscious, asleep, or for any other reason physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an act.

(h) "Sexual battery" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(i) "Victim" means a person who has been the object of a sexual offense.

/Wake me up before you go go
 
2012-12-19 02:58:38 PM  
Police said at the time that Helms forcibly raped his mother, Vickie Helms, while she was intoxicated and passed out on the couch of their trailer park home.

Police reports indicated that Helms, who was 19 at the time, raped his mother in retaliation against his brother for a fight over a girl.


I think the bible lists this as appropriate somewhere.
 
2012-12-19 02:59:03 PM  
Thaaaaaaaaaaaat's just about enough internet for me today...
 
2012-12-19 03:00:21 PM  
The family tree
 
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-19 03:00:37 PM  
Hey, at least he didn't fark her in the ass. THAT would have been gross.
/and mean
 
2012-12-19 03:02:14 PM  

MadMattressMack: Moonfisher: This may be an unpopular opinion, but incest laws should go away. Is it gross as all fark? Yes. Should it be illegal? Probably not. I think to some degree these laws persist so they can charge child molesters with additional violations, which I could get behind. But if this was consensual and they were both adults, well...

I thought it was for the good of the gene pool and the well being of potential children.


If you want your mom that bad enough to break taboo and the law, you don't care about the gene pool. THe law is not going to prevent incest.

Also, it takes several consistant generations of incest to start producing noticable genetic problems. A little on the side with your sister isn't going to be a problem unless your dad is your uncle and your grandpa is your great uncle too.
 
2012-12-19 03:03:09 PM  

The Short Bald Guy from Benny Hill: Is incest a punishable crime? It sounds like he raped her but the mom wouldn't press charges. So they can charge him with incest instead? Ya, it's kind of disgusting, but is it a crime when it occurs between adults?


Rape laws are so strange. If I shoot you in anger, you don't have to press charges against me. The state will do so, without regard to your wishes and will compel you to testify against me. But if I rape you, they can only prosecute me if you ask them too. Any lawyers out there who can explain this subtle difference in the law?
 
2012-12-19 03:04:19 PM  
I almost forgot...

i.imgur.com

/Or, in this case, Mom
 
2012-12-19 03:04:33 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Anyone else reminded of that X-Files episode. You know, Home.


A Wonderful, Wonderful analogy.
 
2012-12-19 03:05:48 PM  
But Helms' mother later said the sex was consensual and that she forgave her son.

If it was consensual, then why did she need to forgive him?
 
2012-12-19 03:06:04 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Police said at the time that Helms forcibly raped his mother, Vickie Helms, while she was intoxicated and passed out on the couch of their trailer park home.

Police reports indicated that Helms, who was 19 at the time, raped his mother in retaliation against his brother for a fight over a girl.

I think the bible lists this as appropriate somewhere.


Yeah but only if the girl they were fighting over is barren
 
2012-12-19 03:06:25 PM  

JackieRabbit: But if I rape you, they can only prosecute me if you ask them too. Any lawyers out there who can explain this subtle difference in the law?


That's not actually the case. If they can prove the rape, they can prosecute it with or without the vicitim's help. However, without the victim being willing to testify that it was not consensual, it's damn near impossible to prove.
 
2012-12-19 03:06:56 PM  
I guess then it's not a legitimate rape?
 
2012-12-19 03:09:28 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net


Approves

/hot like a song of fire
 
2012-12-19 03:10:14 PM  

Wodan11: But Helms' mother later said the sex was consensual and that she forgave her son.

If it was consensual, then why did she need to forgive him?


She didn't orgasm.
 
2012-12-19 03:13:11 PM  
I read the story three times and meth was not mentioned once. This is real shoddy reporting.
 
2012-12-19 03:13:38 PM  
Why is it 'pleaded' guilty and not 'plead'?
 
2012-12-19 03:15:00 PM  

Biff_Steel: I guess then it's not a legitimate rape?


If his parents are married, he's totally legitimate.
 
2012-12-19 03:17:08 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Anyone else reminded of that X-Files episode. You know, Home.



Stop it stop it STOP IT....AIIGGGGGH.
 
2012-12-19 03:17:22 PM  
Wow , not one Jim Morrison reference.
 
2012-12-19 03:18:13 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Wow , not one Jim Morrison reference.


You missed it.
 
2012-12-19 03:18:58 PM  
The South must secede be excised!

scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-19 03:20:09 PM  
Yet the incest capital of America is Zeeland, Michigan... Just sayin.
 
2012-12-19 03:22:00 PM  

5tr4t4: The South must secede be excised!

[scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com image 436x293]


That's some interesting geography you've got there.
 
2012-12-19 03:23:09 PM  
Sad! Not a single grammar NAZI pointed out that it was mom who skipped the court date: " . . . convicted of incest with his mother who skipped court date."
 
2012-12-19 03:25:46 PM  

The Muthaship: JackieRabbit: But if I rape you, they can only prosecute me if you ask them too. Any lawyers out there who can explain this subtle difference in the law?

That's not actually the case. If they can prove the rape, they can prosecute it with or without the vicitim's help. However, without the victim being willing to testify that it was not consensual, it's damn near impossible to prove.


Reasonable answer, but I just did some reading and a woman must press charges against the perp or he cannot be prosecuted -- probably for the reason you give. Some activist groups are trying to change this. But here's the catch. If a woman presses a charge of rape, she puts herself in legal jeopardy if she later wants to drop the charge and should do so only with the assistance of an attorney. In any case, she may ask that the charge be dropped, but this does not compel the prosecutor to dismiss the case. He may elect to continue with prosecution and the defendant would need to petition the court to dismiss the case.
 
2012-12-19 03:26:29 PM  
So...was this a legitimate rape or an illegimate one?
 
2012-12-19 03:27:06 PM  
The sad part is that he's not that bad looking.
 
2012-12-19 03:28:16 PM  

sid2112: Yet the incest capital of America is Zeeland, Michigan... Just sayin.


A bunch of kids in a high school there got hundreds of free Korn shirts... Cops helped pass them out.

I wonder if Korn and incest are related...

...no pun intended.
 
2012-12-19 03:30:48 PM  
<i>Police said at the time that Helms forcibly raped his mother, Vickie Helms, while she was intoxicated and passed out on the couch of their trailer park home.

Police reports indicated that Helms, who was 19 at the time, raped his mother in retaliation against his brother for a fight over a girl. </i>

/So let me get this straight. You were mad at your brother about some slut you both were banging, and to show your ire and displeasure, you decided that boning your mom while she was drunk on the couch was a fine plan? That would show him? Wow...your family is indeed redneck inbred trash. Go die.
 
2012-12-19 03:33:02 PM  

megarian: sid2112: Yet the incest capital of America is Zeeland, Michigan... Just sayin.

A bunch of kids in a high school there got hundreds of free Korn shirts... Cops helped pass them out.

I wonder if Korn and incest are related...

...no pun intended.


Well Jon Davis was a victim of sexual abuse by a family member.
 
2012-12-19 03:37:40 PM  

Moonfisher: This may be an unpopular opinion, but incest laws should go away. Is it gross as all fark? Yes. Should it be illegal? Probably not. I think to some degree these laws persist so they can charge child molesters with additional violations, which I could get behind. But if this was consensual and they were both adults, well...


Aside from incest being illegal to try to cull out breeding up kids with 4 thumbs and room temperature IQs, there can also be a problem establishing if the relationship is truly consensual. If a parent sexually abuses a child (but doesn't get caught) the relationship can become twisted. From the child's point of view, having sex with their parent is normal and loving and not wrong at all. When the child becomes an adult the sexual relationship may continue and look like "two consenting adults" when it's actually based on a warped and abusive childhood. Also it's icky.
 
2012-12-19 03:38:43 PM  
Don't want to click ... don't want to click ... don't want to click
 
2012-12-19 03:39:24 PM  
Their family tree must look like a telephone pole.
 
2012-12-19 03:42:19 PM  
Hey, they're both consenting adults, right? MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!

/sarcasm
 
2012-12-19 03:42:45 PM  

Deman: megarian: sid2112: Yet the incest capital of America is Zeeland, Michigan... Just sayin.

A bunch of kids in a high school there got hundreds of free Korn shirts... Cops helped pass them out.

I wonder if Korn and incest are related...

...no pun intended.

Well Jon Davis was a victim of sexual abuse by a family member.


Yeah... That song kinda traumatized me. I liked Korn a while ago (haven't slept with any family members). I lost interest when their bass player found Jesus.
 
2012-12-19 03:43:07 PM  

JackieRabbit: The Short Bald Guy from Benny Hill: Is incest a punishable crime? It sounds like he raped her but the mom wouldn't press charges. So they can charge him with incest instead? Ya, it's kind of disgusting, but is it a crime when it occurs between adults?

Rape laws are so strange. If I shoot you in anger, you don't have to press charges against me. The state will do so, without regard to your wishes and will compel you to testify against me. But if I rape you, they can only prosecute me if you ask them too. Any lawyers out there who can explain this subtle difference in the law?


I dunno. Probably because people have consensual sex all the time. I haven't really heard much about consensual shootings.
 
2012-12-19 03:45:34 PM  

Thorazine: He raped his mother to get back at his brother over a girl. Makes perfect sense to me!



I guess....if your mom was already your aunt's brother's sister's cousin, probably it would...
 
2012-12-19 03:45:49 PM  
OK guys think! How can we blame this on Guns? There must be a way...
 
2012-12-19 03:49:54 PM  
What does a mom in Alabama say after sex?

Son, get off me, you're crushing my cigarettes!
 
2012-12-19 03:50:27 PM  

cgraves67: MadMattressMack: Moonfisher: This may be an unpopular opinion, but incest laws should go away. Is it gross as all fark? Yes. Should it be illegal? Probably not. I think to some degree these laws persist so they can charge child molesters with additional violations, which I could get behind. But if this was consensual and they were both adults, well...

I thought it was for the good of the gene pool and the well being of potential children.

If you want your mom that bad enough to break taboo and the law, you don't care about the gene pool. THe law is not going to prevent incest.

Also, it takes several consistant generations of incest to start producing noticable genetic problems. A little on the side with your sister isn't going to be a problem unless your dad is your uncle and your grandpa is your great uncle too.



I love these threads... It allows me to add more people to the ignore list
 
2012-12-19 03:51:01 PM  
I had no idea there were aristocrats in Alabama.

/Aristocrats!!
 
2012-12-19 03:52:44 PM  
Wait, people. Was it his biological mother, the one he'd always known, or some hot step-mama who became a part of his life when he was 15? It seems like that would make a SMALL difference in the "ick" factor.

According to photos, the dude was kinda hot, IMO. Wonder if he has boyfriend frustrations??
 
2012-12-19 03:55:43 PM  

Into the blue again: cgraves67: MadMattressMack: Moonfisher: This may be an unpopular opinion, but incest laws should go away. Is it gross as all fark? Yes. Should it be illegal? Probably not. I think to some degree these laws persist so they can charge child molesters with additional violations, which I could get behind. But if this was consensual and they were both adults, well...

I thought it was for the good of the gene pool and the well being of potential children.

If you want your mom that bad enough to break taboo and the law, you don't care about the gene pool. THe law is not going to prevent incest.

Also, it takes several consistant generations of incest to start producing noticable genetic problems. A little on the side with your sister isn't going to be a problem unless your dad is your uncle and your grandpa is your great uncle too.


I love these threads... It allows me to add more people to the ignore list


You're putting him on ignore for talking about genetics?
 
2012-12-19 03:58:02 PM  
theres a link on that page of Texas cops giving cavity searches to two women.... on the side of the road!
didn't find anything. ok ladies, on your way then!
 
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