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2012-12-19 11:03:38 AM

Dr Dreidel: So what's the alternative? We leave Newtown alone, and CNNBCBSyFy show up in December 2022 for a "School Shooting: 10 Years Later" that no one heard about in the first place?
 
I can get behind some sort of "leave the private citizens alone" rule/law (the media companies are more than welcome to self-impose that rule), but so long as newsworthy things are allowed to happen without first pulling a permit, there is no way to stop newspeople from covering it. And without a way to stop them from covering it, there is no way to stop them from overcovering it.
 
It sucks, but unless we want state-controlled media (or none at all - basically the same thing), this is how it's going to be.
 
// "more guns" seems to be the answer of the week
// so howzabout we arm the grieving families?
// that'll get a Wolf off your porch

 
 
Holy jump-to-conclusions Batman!
 
2012-12-19 11:06:13 AM

b0rscht: I find it ironic that a reporter reported a story about how reporters are overreporting.


The BBC had a similar article, although it did note at the end the reporter chose to leave the after filing the report.
 
2012-12-19 11:06:31 AM
So we've abused 2 amendments with one tragedy. Convenient, and economical.
 
2012-12-19 11:07:02 AM
And then what did the townspeople say?

And then what did the townspeople say?

Tell me!!!
 
2012-12-19 11:09:40 AM
jake havecheck
no bubbly, but was glad there was one less in the world
complain to someone who hasn't been to the desert and had to protect idiots like him
 
now, can be get back to the glorious bashing of newswhores?
 
2012-12-19 11:10:07 AM
Media to Newton:

"We are very career driven people. Your loss, our gain.This is how we make our nice salaries. Thanks for making us lot of money this last week. We look glum and sensitive on the camera but that's how we're trained to act. We are actually giddy over the money we are making off of your dead children."
 
2012-12-19 11:11:50 AM

cubic_spleen: C.M.O.T. Dibbler seen setting up shop nearby.


I LOL'd
 
2012-12-19 11:15:22 AM
Media navel-gazing is unfortunate but widespread.
 
2012-12-19 11:16:32 AM

incendi: Pro-tip: pass a five dollar excise tax on hot caffeinated beverages for a week after any major tragedy. If you're gonna be infested by newsmongerers, at least make it worth your while.


I was thinking something similar, but with parking tickets. Make it illegal within town limits to park a vehicle not registered to someone living within a 10 mile radius of the town. Something like a $300 fine wouldn't faze them. If you wanted to make them go away, make the fine a couple million. If you want to make money off of them, keep it around a nice $5k.
 
2012-12-19 11:20:27 AM
Good luck with that. Tragedy-porn trumps even normal, sexy-porn for titillating the American public.
 
2012-12-19 11:24:18 AM
When everything was first unfolding Friday, I was watching a live feed on one of the local networks' website. Two reporters started rushing after two young girls, they looked about 12 & 15, asking them questions. The girls turned out to be the principal's daughters, the reporters stuck microphones in their faces, "And your mother is the principal? Have you heard from her? Do you know if she's okay? How are you feeling right now?"
 
These little girls were literally walking towards the school to learn that their mother was dead, the reporters had been notified that no word had come from the principal yet, she was presumed dead. They still descended on those kids like vultures. The girls could only answer, "Yes, no, no, I don't know." I wanted to puke, it was awful. I had to cut the feed off after that, it was such a heartless attempt to get information.
 
2012-12-19 11:25:23 AM
News report says he snapped because his mom was trying to have him committed to a psychiatric facility.

This is why we can't tell crazies what we will do with them - instead we need to kidnap them at night while they're sleeping so they have no idea its coming.

Otherwise they'll go all Nexus 6 on us.
 
2012-12-19 11:26:09 AM
If the citizens just had more guns, they'd be able to defend themselves from the media.

/more guns!
//mooooooar
 
2012-12-19 11:26:18 AM

Gulper Eel: And yet we cannot have common sense media control. It's time to have a conversation about that.


I know you're being snarky but that's a pretty good idea. Their constant drive to be first on a story mixed with an always on 24 hour news cycle has made them insufferable.

...except for election night, that shiat was hilarious.
 
2012-12-19 11:26:56 AM

b0rscht: I find it ironic that a reporter reported a story about how reporters are overreporting.



This  thread is even more ironic.
 
2012-12-19 11:29:03 AM

occamswrist: News report says he snapped because his mom was trying to have him committed to a psychiatric facility.



I keep seeing that he was diagnosed with Aspergers, I have a feeling he was misdiagnosed and that should have been a psychopath. All accounts point to his behavior being much more than socially awkward.
 
2012-12-19 11:30:07 AM

BarkingUnicorn: b0rscht: I find it ironic that a reporter reported a story about how reporters are overreporting.


This  thread is even more ironic.


Like rain on your wedding day?
 
2012-12-19 11:37:00 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Jake Havechek: Challenger


Ugg. I remember that day perfectly. As a 3rd grader intent on becoming an astronaut the footage horrified me. We were watching it at school in the library. The explosion made me flinch/jump almost out of my seat and I cried all day.


I was home sick and remember yelling for my mom, who was downstairs doing laundry. Still 1 of my most vivid memories.
 
2012-12-19 11:44:48 AM

tetsoushima: I live in Danbury, I know a couple of the people that died. It's not just that the reporters are there trying to get a story, it's that they are extremely aggressive towards grieving families and townspeople. The more stories I'm hearing from friends, the more I just want to take a short drive and do something immature. Can you say "cock" on the air?



Work it in subtly - chances are some yutz will miss it in the editing process.

There's also the time-honored practice of giving them your name as Heywood Jablome. If you pronounce the name to them as HA-blo-mee they'll never catch it.

If it works you have to submit it to Fark, of course.
 
2012-12-19 11:44:58 AM

zepher: Never let a severe crisis go to waste.
You can use it to get things done that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to do.


GBTW, mayor.
 
2012-12-19 11:48:03 AM
It's almost as though there is an invisible political force clinging to these events that wont go away until it's certain that there isn't any leverage left to be used towards it's agenda. Funny that.
 
2012-12-19 11:59:38 AM
Don't worry Newtown- in a month or so there will be another massacre in some other town and the vultures will move on to that.
 
2012-12-19 12:00:08 PM

Ex-Texan: They claim 1st Amendment, and all that, but I find that unprofessional, and lacking in professionalism.



Woah, BOTH?  That's harsh, man.
 
2012-12-19 12:02:18 PM
I live 20 minutes from this event. I don't care.

I have a friend who teaches at the high school. I don't care.

My girlfriend and her friends went to high school with "hero" Vicky Soto, same class.

I don't care.

There is absolutely no reason any of you should care either. shiat happens. People go crazy. Children die. Happens all around the world every minute of the day.

This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you. Faux empathy/outrage isn't going to help anyone. Probably makes it worse but I guess that is debatable. This was a bad weekend for Chicago gang violence. Let's start there if we really want to focus on helping. 

Don't farking kid yourself that you're some selfless servant for posting prayers on facebook.
 
2012-12-19 12:04:27 PM
Reporters have to eat too.

/living off a paycheck signed by a broadcasting company.
 
2012-12-19 12:04:45 PM

ChuDogg: I live 20 minutes from this event. I don't care.

I have a friend who teaches at the high school. I don't care.

My girlfriend and her friends went to high school with "hero" Vicky Soto, same class.

I don't care.

There is absolutely no reason any of you should care either. shiat happens. People go crazy. Children die. Happens all around the world every minute of the day.

This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you. Faux empathy/outrage isn't going to help anyone. Probably makes it worse but I guess that is debatable. This was a bad weekend for Chicago gang violence. Let's start there if we really want to focus on helping. 

Don't farking kid yourself that you're some selfless servant for posting prayers on facebook.


Solutions don't make money, fear does.
 
2012-12-19 12:07:32 PM

ChuDogg: This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you.


I feel bad for you if the deaths of these children doesn't bother you.

Please don't speak for me anymore.

I don't don't send prayers. I don't pray. But, I do hope their pain subsides, even though I know it won't.
 
2012-12-19 12:12:22 PM

ChuDogg: I live 20 minutes from this event. I don't care.

I have a friend who teaches at the high school. I don't care.

My girlfriend and her friends went to high school with "hero" Vicky Soto, same class.

I don't care.

There is absolutely no reason any of you should care either. shiat happens. People go crazy. Children die. Happens all around the world every minute of the day.

This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you. Faux empathy/outrage isn't going to help anyone. Probably makes it worse but I guess that is debatable. This was a bad weekend for Chicago gang violence. Let's start there if we really want to focus on helping. 

Don't farking kid yourself that you're some selfless servant for posting prayers on facebook.


First off, you're a douchebag. Absolutely no doubts about it. I can easily imagine that someone without kids will have trouble associating with this event and how awful it is, but to say that you don't care that 20 kids were murdered at school is in the absolute top tier of a-hole things to say.
There is a small subset of people who can actually have empathy for this, but there are a huge number of people who have sympathy for it, and justly so. Many people genuinely feel terrible not only for the individuals, but also that it happened in the first place.

I don't have sympathy for gang bangers. Comparing gang related deaths to 1st graders being killed while in school is an apples and cows comparison. They are so unrelated that they shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
 
2012-12-19 12:13:26 PM

The Muthaship: ChuDogg: This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you.

I feel bad for you if the deaths of these children doesn't bother you.

Please don't speak for me anymore.

I don't don't send prayers. I don't pray. But, I do hope their pain subsides, even though I know it won't.


Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?
 
2012-12-19 12:14:44 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?


A rough one.

Now, what does that have to do with what I said?
 
2012-12-19 12:19:51 PM

ChuDogg: I live 20 minutes from this event. I don't care.

I have a friend who teaches at the high school. I don't care.

My girlfriend and her friends went to high school with "hero" Vicky Soto, same class.

I don't care.

There is absolutely no reason any of you should care either. shiat happens. People go crazy. Children die. Happens all around the world every minute of the day.

This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you. Faux empathy/outrage isn't going to help anyone. Probably makes it worse but I guess that is debatable. This was a bad weekend for Chicago gang violence. Let's start there if we really want to focus on helping. 

Don't farking kid yourself that you're some selfless servant for posting prayers on facebook.



You're so badass, man.  I'm going to masturbate to your profile because of how badass you are.
 
2012-12-19 12:20:24 PM

JFarker131: When everything was first unfolding Friday, I was watching a live feed on one of the local networks' website. Two reporters started rushing after two young girls, they looked about 12 & 15, asking them questions. The girls turned out to be the principal's daughters, the reporters stuck microphones in their faces, "And your mother is the principal? Have you heard from her? Do you know if she's okay? How are you feeling right now?"
 
These little girls were literally walking towards the school to learn that their mother was dead, the reporters had been notified that no word had come from the principal yet, she was presumed dead. They still descended on those kids like vultures. The girls could only answer, "Yes, no, no, I don't know." I wanted to puke, it was awful. I had to cut the feed off after that, it was such a heartless attempt to get information.



Good, hard-hitting reporting; will probably get a media award.
 
2012-12-19 12:24:46 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?


In automobile accidents in the United States, 1300 under the age of 15.

By starvation, worldwide, 18,000.

There is no reason that these 20 are any more important than any of those others.
 
2012-12-19 12:27:29 PM

heili skrimsli: StoPPeRmobile: Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?

In automobile accidents in the United States, 1300 under the age of 15.

By starvation, worldwide, 18,000.

There is no reason that these 20 are any more important than any of those others.


474,500 children under age 15 die in auto accidents in the US every year? Holy hell. Time to move.
 
2012-12-19 12:27:41 PM
I thought it was interesting how they make a big deal about reporters mispronouncing the town's name, yet the article's caption writer completely missed the mark, calling Newtown "Sandy Hook":


"Media and traffic jams the downtown of Sandy Hook near the Elementary School"
 
2012-12-19 12:30:46 PM

had98c: 474,500 children under age 15 die in auto accidents in the US every year? Holy hell. Time to move.


That's a pretty nifty trick, given that the total number of automobile deaths per year is about a tenth of that, right?
 
2012-12-19 12:33:53 PM
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2012-12-19 12:50:38 PM

The Muthaship: StoPPeRmobile: Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?

A rough one.

Now, what does that have to do with what I said?


Nice of you to remove what I was referencing.
 
2012-12-19 12:52:38 PM

ChuDogg: I live 20 minutes from this event. I don't care.

I have a friend who teaches at the high school. I don't care.

My girlfriend and her friends went to high school with "hero" Vicky Soto, same class.

I don't care.

There is absolutely no reason any of you should care either. shiat happens. People go crazy. Children die. Happens all around the world every minute of the day.

This doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect you. Faux empathy/outrage isn't going to help anyone. Probably makes it worse but I guess that is debatable. This was a bad weekend for Chicago gang violence. Let's start there if we really want to focus on helping. 

Don't farking kid yourself that you're some selfless servant for posting prayers on facebook.


trying to get an interview with Anderson Cooper I see.
 
2012-12-19 12:58:45 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Nice of you to remove what I was referencing.


I didn't remove anything except my post that you quoted.
 
2012-12-19 01:01:23 PM

The Muthaship: StoPPeRmobile: Nice of you to remove what I was referencing.

I didn't remove anything except my post that you quoted.


So did you find out how many children died today?
 
2012-12-19 01:04:12 PM

StoPPeRmobile: The Muthaship: StoPPeRmobile: Nice of you to remove what I was referencing.

I didn't remove anything except my post that you quoted.

So did you find out how many children died today?


You want to know the exact number of children that died today? You'll have to find that for yourself, I don't have access to the info.

I asked what the number has to do with what I said. Apparently IYO it is meaningful to my misguided world view. So lay it on me.

Feel free to make up a number that suits you.
 
2012-12-19 01:09:13 PM

had98c: heili skrimsli: StoPPeRmobile: Do you even have a clue how many children will die today?

In automobile accidents in the United States, 1300 under the age of 15.

By starvation, worldwide, 18,000.

There is no reason that these 20 are any more important than any of those others.

474,500 children under age 15 die in auto accidents in the US every year? Holy hell. Time to move.


Sorry, the automobile one was annual based on the number for 2009.
 
2012-12-19 01:35:46 PM
474,500 people of any age did not die of auto accidents in 2009, either.

That's off by more than an order of magnitude.
 
2012-12-19 01:47:55 PM
With regard to the reporters: If they did what some people apparently want and ignored the story, then the complaint would be "Why doesn't anyone care about what happened in our town?" It's a no-win situation.

I do have to wonder, being the cynical person I am, how many of the people objecting to coverage of the tragedy in their town eagerly read or viewed everything they could about an endless series of tragedies in other people's towns, countries, etc. While I suppose it's possible that the entire population of Newtown CT could consist of virtuous people who have never bought a copy of the National Enquirer, never watched bombs falling in some other country, never stayed glued to their TV for Aurora or Columbine or anything else ... I doubt it. People aren't like that. People are happy to be ghouls when the tragedy is someone else's. But what's sauce for the goose is, in the gander's opinion, totally wrong for the gander.

Yeah, harassing kids is out of line. But they do it because people buy it. Because people like those who are now objecting to it happening in their town, to their kids, buy it. There's a word for people who don't sell what the customers are buying. That word is "unemployed". What a lot of people need to look at, right here, right now, is what they as customers are buying. Why do people watch Jersey Shore and the whole thing about Honey Boo Boo? Why do they obsessively follow celebrities who are famous only for being famous? Why do magazines like People sell more than magazines like Smithsonian?

It's not only socially acceptable to be a ghoul, it's expected. It's encouraged. I have relatives who think I'm weird because I don't know or care what the Kardashians are up to.

THAT'S what we need to fix.
 
2012-12-19 01:55:44 PM
CSB time:

Driving through Sandy Hook (visiting friends who live there) the traffic is a nightmare. Reporters and related jerks everywhere. On the side of the road was a camera crew stalking the local church. They were shooting across the road since they were banned from church property. (vultures)

There was also an active video report going on with a camera, crew, light, and some woman talking in to a microphone. She had stepped out ON TO THE STREET so she could be in the shot with the church. Traffic was crawling so I inched up right behind her, rolled down the passenger window, hoked my big-ass horn and then yelled "get of the street you idiot".

I hope like HELL it was a live feed. I scared the CRAP out of her.

I think all the locals should be carrying water pistols and soaking these jerks when they show that kind of disrespect.
 
2012-12-19 02:23:10 PM

The Muthaship: StoPPeRmobile: The Muthaship: StoPPeRmobile: Nice of you to remove what I was referencing.

I didn't remove anything except my post that you quoted.

So did you find out how many children died today?

You want to know the exact number of children that died today? You'll have to find that for yourself, I don't have access to the info.

I asked what the number has to do with what I said. Apparently IYO it is meaningful to my misguided world view. So lay it on me.

Feel free to make up a number that suits you.


Hint: it's more than 20.
 
2012-12-19 02:29:33 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Hint: it's more than 20.


So, you don't know either? You really never did have a point did you?

I'm sorry you got sucked into ChuDogg's BS hard guy routine and had it blow up in your face. But, the fact is, this is tragedy. Don't try to assign how you feel about it to others.
 
2012-12-19 02:32:53 PM

Worldwalker: 474,500 people of any age did not die of auto accidents in 2009, either.

That's off by more than an order of magnitude.


Yes, as I said. Sorry, it was the annual number for 2009.

You ever make a mistake? How many times do I need to say:

I made an error in my previous post and listed the annual number of traffic fatalities for those under the age of 15.

I'm not perfect. I admit it. Now can we move the fark on?
 
2012-12-19 02:34:19 PM

heili skrimsli: Sorry, it was the annual number for 2009.


The total for 2009 was just over 33k
 
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