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(BBC)   Bad: Your parachute doesn't open. Worse: Your reserve parachute doesn't open. Worst: Nobody notices or cares   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 103
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2012-12-19 09:51:32 AM
Which of course leads to the Zen question, "If a skydiver falls in the forest..."
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 09:59:47 AM
Wow, some set of friends he had there.
 
2012-12-19 10:00:09 AM
Nor cares. NOR!
 
2012-12-19 10:00:11 AM
Well, as the saying goes. 'If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not fir you.'
 
2012-12-19 10:00:58 AM
They could have at least tried to call him or a contact of his
 
2012-12-19 10:02:58 AM
So why hasn't some sappy Christian posted a drawing of Jesus parachuting yet???
 
2012-12-19 10:03:28 AM
Well, at least he wasn't alive and suffering and able to be potentially helped for a day or anything, right?
 
2012-12-19 10:08:13 AM
Mr Woerlee of the parachute club said there was no system to make sure that a jump had been completed safely.

"We never check, there is no law, no regulations," he said.

"They have tried it in America but it didn't work. Sometimes people come back to the club for a cup of tea and a chat, but sometimes they just pack up and leave.


next time try the buddy system.
 
2012-12-19 10:10:43 AM
The most extreme sports always involve doing death-defying feats and making sure not to contact anyone you know beforehand so they can check up on your progress or if your will was filed properly. EXTREEEEEME!
 
2012-12-19 10:10:46 AM
Bad news: he missed the haystack.
 
2012-12-19 10:11:33 AM
This is what comes of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.
 
2012-12-19 10:13:24 AM

JackieRabbit: This is what comes of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.


There is no such thing. Especially jump planes.
 
2012-12-19 10:15:10 AM
"a friendly and happy man, but a loner, someone who did not really talk to anyone and was always on his own".

I commend him for checking out this way, instead of killing others before killing himself. I wish others would follow your example.
 
2012-12-19 10:15:47 AM
 
2012-12-19 10:16:49 AM
This guy thinks he should have just walked it off.
 
2012-12-19 10:17:31 AM
But the club said it had not launched a search as it was not usual for skydivers to report back after their jump.

The club has shiatty policies.
 
2012-12-19 10:18:22 AM
Worst of all: You've jumped out of an airplane.
 
2012-12-19 10:18:34 AM

gopher321: Which of course leads to the Zen question, "If a skydiver falls in the forest..."


No, it's "If Anne Frank fell over in the desert..."
 
2012-12-19 10:19:07 AM
I dunno. Seems a model of libertarianism in action to me. Free fall and die.
 
2012-12-19 10:21:04 AM

JackieRabbit: This is what comes of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.



...birdshiat and idiots.
 
2012-12-19 10:21:20 AM

gja: Wow, some set of friends he had there.


Form the article, it didn't sound like the poor guy had that many fiends.
 
2012-12-19 10:27:35 AM
"For Sale - Parachute - Never opened - only used once - small stain"
 
2012-12-19 10:32:08 AM

littlett's: gja: Wow, some set of friends he had there.

Form the article, it didn't sound like the poor guy had that many fiends.


He probably had friends, they just weren't obnoxious about it and aren't the kind to check in on you every flipping day or freak out if you don't call them.

I know that if I ended up dead somewhere in the middle of nowhere it'd probably be months before anyone noticed.
 
2012-12-19 10:34:27 AM

gopher321: Which of course leads to the Zen question, "If a skydiver falls in the forest..."


All the trees point and laugh.
 
2012-12-19 10:36:26 AM

gopher321: Which of course leads to the Zen question, "If a scuba skydiver falls in the forest..."

 
FTFY
 
2012-12-19 10:39:44 AM

had98c: He probably had friends, they just weren't obnoxious about it and aren't the kind to check in on you every flipping day or freak out if you don't call them.


I don't consider my friends obnoxious, but I'm pretty sure that if at least one of them didn't see me at the gym or we didn't meet for a drink after work, they would at least try to call.
 
2012-12-19 10:43:03 AM
Skydiver here -- That DZ has terrible policies. We had a bad spot once and manifest was ever diligent to account for everyone on the plane.
 
2012-12-19 10:44:34 AM

littlett's: I don't consider my friends obnoxious, but I'm pretty sure that if at least one of them didn't see me at the gym or we didn't meet for a drink after work, they would at least try to call.


Same.  I don't see why checking up on someone is somehow 'obnoxious'?
 
/clubs policies are completely idiotic 
 
2012-12-19 10:44:54 AM
Maybe he was unconscious before he left the airplane.
Maybe the spotter didn't notice the plummeting body on purpose.

duh duh dunnnnnn
 
2012-12-19 10:44:59 AM
For an active dropzone, it's not entirely uncommon for the dropzone management (i.e., the people in the office) to lose track of people. I'm told this particular dropzopne supports 700+ jumps a day in the summer.

Usually, a load organizer (a jumper on the plane) will keep some track of the people on a particular jump, but with some planes (e.g., a DeHavilland Twin Otter), that can be around 20 people - and it's not always easy for one person to keep track of them all. As a result, it's not unheard of for this sort of situation to arise.

What's unclear from the incident reports (not included in the article) is whether the jumper had an automatic activation device (a.k.a, an "AAD"), which is an electronic device that is to cut the reserve loop (and release the reserve) if the jumper is in free fall below a specified altitude. AADs are generally required by the Dutch skydiving authority's rules, except for very experienced jumpers. It's not clear whether his parachute harness system had one in it, whether it was there but wasn't turned on, or whether it was there, turned on, but didn't function as intended.

In any event, my condolences to his family and loved ones. Blue skies.
 
2012-12-19 10:46:35 AM
....look out below because I'm comIn through....
 
2012-12-19 10:47:45 AM
One edit to add - I recognize that the jump was 8 to 10 days ago, not in the summer, and probably nowhere near as busy (Netherlands in December is cold for jumping). In my opinion, best practices would have resulted in his disappearance being noted by the load organizer.
 
2012-12-19 10:48:27 AM

cman: ....look out below because I'm comIn through....


That made me giggle about a dead man. I hope you feel awful!
 
2012-12-19 10:50:15 AM

Unoriginal_Username: Well, as the saying goes. 'If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not fir you.'


Or in this case, if the first one hundred and twenty times you do succeed, don't tempt fate.
 
2012-12-19 10:50:18 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7494028/81387180#c81387180" target="_blank">Buggar</a>:</b> <i>cman: ....look out below because I'm comIn through....

That made me giggle about a dead man. I hope you feel awful!</i>

FYI if you are not former military the phrase I used wouldnt be as funny
 
2012-12-19 10:54:17 AM
Splat
 
2012-12-19 10:54:28 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: They could have at least tried to call him or a contact of his


He was a loner and he died alone, without friends. I wonder when we can expect him to shoot up a school.
 
2012-12-19 10:59:44 AM
FTFA: Dutch police are investigating how the body of skydiver lay undetected in a field for more than a week.

My guess is all sprawled out and crushed flat with some parts at odd angles. Don't they take pictures before they move the body?
 
2012-12-19 11:04:58 AM
"Honestly! He just disappeared into thin air!"
 
2012-12-19 11:06:48 AM
He failed to follow one important rule. If both canopies fail, track for your rigger.
 
2012-12-19 11:08:31 AM

clutchcargo2002: JackieRabbit: This is what comes of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.

There is no such thing. Especially jump planes.


This.  I've felt safer jumping out of half the jump planes I've been on.
 
/BSBD
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 11:18:35 AM
Well, he isn't complaining about it, so it can't be all that bad.
 
2012-12-19 11:20:17 AM

KillerAttackParrot: He failed to follow one important rule. If both canopies fail, track for your rigger. Don't jump out of a freaking airplane if it can be avoided.

 
2012-12-19 11:20:37 AM
What we may never know is, did he consider 'If I don't open my chute, will I be missed'.
 
2012-12-19 11:29:11 AM
Don't Boogaard that jump, my friend.
 
/Pass it over to Asgard
//thump
 
2012-12-19 11:37:41 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: They could have at least tried to call him or a contact of his


Who is this 'they' you speak of?

But the club said it had not launched a search as it was not usual for skydivers to report back after their jump.
 
2012-12-19 11:38:26 AM

Skwrl: For an active dropzone, it's not entirely uncommon for the dropzone management (i.e., the people in the office) to lose track of people. I'm told this particular dropzopne supports 700+ jumps a day in the summer.

Usually, a load organizer (a jumper on the plane) will keep some track of the people on a particular jump, but with some planes (e.g., a DeHavilland Twin Otter), that can be around 20 people - and it's not always easy for one person to keep track of them all. As a result, it's not unheard of for this sort of situation to arise.

What's unclear from the incident reports (not included in the article) is whether the jumper had an automatic activation device (a.k.a, an "AAD"), which is an electronic device that is to cut the reserve loop (and release the reserve) if the jumper is in free fall below a specified altitude. AADs are generally required by the Dutch skydiving authority's rules, except for very experienced jumpers. It's not clear whether his parachute harness system had one in it, whether it was there but wasn't turned on, or whether it was there, turned on, but didn't function as intended.

In any event, my condolences to his family and loved ones. Blue skies.


I'm pretty sure an AAD is required on ALL reserve parachutes...
 
2012-12-19 11:43:01 AM

Jaws_Victim: drjekel_mrhyde: They could have at least tried to call him or a contact of his

He was a loner and he died alone, without friends. I wonder when we can expect him to shoot up a school.



Not all loners shoot up schools or become serial killers. And not all mass murderers or serial killers are loners. I'm pretty much a loner, but I have no urge to kill or maim. I do my thing and if someone wants to join in, that's cool. I do make a point to call my Mama on occasion to check in (she's well supported, at 87yo,  by my two sisters and a very large circle of friends), but don't go hunting down friends for companionship, I just don't need it. If they want to go have a beer, or need a wingman, I'm good to go. Lonership suits me fine, I wear my 'lone wolf' colors proudly, but will ride with just about anyone.
 
/He died doing his thing, what's wrong with that?
//Where his body ended up didn't seem to matter to him.
 
GBB
2012-12-19 11:46:42 AM
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Not Impressed
 
2012-12-19 12:04:02 PM
too bad we felt compelled to comment on this story - no comments would have been apropos.

should have pulled the R.I.P. cord dutch guy
 
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