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(Some Guy)   To understand Christmas, go to the pub. "The lesson is that if you want a good time at a bar, go with an anthropologist rather than an economist"   (johnkay.com) divider line 28
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2012-12-19 10:09:30 AM
Especially if the anthropologist looks like this:

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2012-12-19 10:40:37 AM
If you really want to have fun, buy and ecologist a beer.

/I'm waiting
 
2012-12-19 10:42:08 AM
Don`t go with a psychologist, they never relax.

At least an anthropologist deep down just wants to get laid like the rest of us.
 
2012-12-19 10:48:59 AM
I have both degrees, anyone want to take me to the pub? Ill try and live up to the expectations posited here.
 
2012-12-19 10:53:19 AM
I'll stick with philosophers, thank you very much. At least they aren't pretending it's a science.
 
2012-12-19 10:59:09 AM

Nurglitch: I'll stick with philosophers, thank you very much. At least they aren't pretending it's a science.


They pretend it matters, which is a might bit worse.
 
2012-12-19 11:00:14 AM

dready zim: Don`t go with a psychologist, they never relax.

At least an anthropologist deep down just wants to get laid like the rest of us.


Anthropologists get laid. Especially male anthropologists. Most anthro departments are between 2/1 and 4/1 female/male ratios.
 
2012-12-19 11:04:51 AM

Cybernetic: Especially if the anthropologist looks like this:

 
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Dolph Lundgren would be proud of that jawline.
 
2012-12-19 11:14:08 AM
This is so true. I can always be found at the pub.
 
2012-12-19 12:22:23 PM
Christmas and Thanksgiving are huge for bars. Those without families drink because they are lonely, those with families drink because they had to spend time with their families.
 
2012-12-19 12:23:04 PM

TexanBoy: Nurglitch: I'll stick with philosophers, thank you very much. At least they aren't pretending it's a science.

They pretend it matters, which is a might bit worse.


No, those are philosophy majors, just students. They don't let you have a post-graduate degree until you sign an affadavit promising not to take philosophy seriously.
 
2012-12-19 12:49:32 PM

Nurglitch: TexanBoy: Nurglitch: I'll stick with philosophers, thank you very much. At least they aren't pretending it's a science.

They pretend it matters, which is a might bit worse.

No, those are philosophy majors, just students. They don't let you have a post-graduate degree until you sign an affadavit promising not to take philosophy seriously.


Or you figure it out a year after graduation that the most meaningful question you ask is: "Why do you want fries with that?"
 
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2012-12-19 12:55:51 PM
An anthropologist walks into a bar and asks, "Why is this funny?"
 
2012-12-19 01:41:58 PM

RevCarter: dready zim: Don`t go with a psychologist, they never relax.

At least an anthropologist deep down just wants to get laid like the rest of us.

Anthropologists get laid. Especially male anthropologists. Most anthro departments are between 2/1 and 4/1 female/male ratios.


yup. Also they like to think they are part of the guts of life, which includes shagging like a rabbit on heat.

Anthropologists favourite songs?

I wanna fark you like an animal - nine inch nails (NSFW)
The bad touch - the bloodhound gang (Also NSFW)
 
2012-12-19 03:05:15 PM
My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist
 
2012-12-19 03:15:51 PM
 
2012-12-19 03:21:07 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist


You've never been to a Christmas with a struggling middle class family, have you? Credit means you can buy it now, but pay for it later.
 
2012-12-19 03:33:02 PM

dready zim: Don`t go with a psychologist, they never relax.

At least an anthropologist deep down just wants to get laid like the rest of us.


Really I love drinking with psychologists. My sister in law and a few of her friends are psychologists and they are great to mess with when drinking. Up until they learned I am a professional troll in real life, they spent several evenings analysing me while I hamed up any and all personal disfunctions up until they were about to institutionalize me. And then once they were drunk each one of them started to show amazing emotional/personal flaws that they were coving up. I have never met a sane shrink.
 
2012-12-19 05:19:34 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist


I have learned a thing today.
 
2012-12-19 05:22:07 PM

roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist

You've never been to a Christmas with a struggling middle class family, have you? Credit means you can buy it now, but pay for it later.


[quizicaldog.jpg]

I'm not sure what that has to do with my nit-picking the article's use of Potlatch...
 
2012-12-19 07:10:17 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist


As I'm sure Mr. Shabooboo (and Marcel Mauss) would agree, economic transactions are almost always a social act. Potlatches, your secret santa gift exchange at work, hell, even buying gas has an implied social value.

As John Kay points out, we exchange gifts because it's a sign we care.

I could have told you in April who I was going to buy Christmas* gifts for and probably would have been 95% correct. Why? Because those people getting gifts from me next week are almost exclusively people who I received gifts from last year. Slight changes to your list may occur over the year if they piss you off or you get a new schmoopie, but the list for next year's Christmas is more or less set on Dec 26th.

Not only do you know who you'll be giving gifts to, you'll also have a good idea how much you'll spend on them. That amount is probably in the ballpark or what they spent on you last year (exceptions would be when people with severe differences in income exchange gifts, like you and your 8 year old). So why don't my brother and I just keep the $100 we're going to spend on each other this Christmas in our pockets and avoid all the hassle of finding a gift for each other?

Because we love each other and gift giving says I love you (or at least says 'I am in a gift giving relationship with you that has social, economic, or political benefits to both of us')

Happy Holidays everyone.

* Christmas is used here as a catch all for repeated, patterned, reciprocal gift giving. Insert an alternate event if you're not down with a pagan fertility ritual masquerading as the celebration of the birth of Christ

/Anthropologist
// and yes, you should always drink with anthropologists
 
2012-12-19 08:57:11 PM

treecologist: If you really want to have fun, buy and ecologist a beer.

/I'm waiting


Sure, but how do you ecologist a beer?
 
2012-12-19 10:13:16 PM

Saiga410: I have never met a sane shrink.


Every psychology major I met in college was crazy to some degree or another.

My theory was that the field of psychology all sorts of mentally "different" people trying to figure out their own issues.
 
2012-12-20 04:14:29 AM

everlastinggobstopper: So why don't my brother and I just keep the $100 we're going to spend on each other this Christmas in our pockets and avoid all the hassle of finding a gift for each other?


It's also enforced joy(well, if you both choose well). If you didn't give gifts, you'd spend it on gas, or bills, or whatever mundane crap most of your money goes to. YMMV of course, some people are very self indulging...

As a tangent because I'm putting off sleep:

I'm terrible at buying gifts that are appreciated for the item's usefulness. I've given up, kids get money(nothing lights up a kids eyes like green paper), adults get food(a huge box of chocolates this year, HUGE, as a per-family gift) or something otherwise genuinely agreeable and easy.

You never run the risk of getting those odd looks that say, "Why the fark did you think I'd like this!?" Not as a selfish / spoiled look, but that moment of intense confusion when you doubt someone's sanity.

It's not the thought that counts in many cases, relying on that clause can lead to that horribly awkward moment. A card and good wishes, sure, that's cool, even without cash money. A gift that says "I don't know what the fark I'm doing, so here's a keychain and a bicycle horn and a can of raid?" The intent is there, but zero thought, zero knowledge or empathy. Can't blame anyone for not being gracious for that split second, I've even done it.

The purpose is to create joy. If you can't adequately assess your own skill in that area, it's time to give up.

Better to keep it simple, imo. (it's not always lack of knowledge, some people just have everything already, or the variety of X(ie candle scents) is so great, it's something best bought by that person)

Of course, I have a rather large family as one of six adult kids, then all their kids, 2-6 each... That's simply too much to keep straight, not to mention buying double gifts, that's a lot of effort in networking there, and if you just ask other people what to get for Jon...blech, that's hardly genuine at all.
 
2012-12-20 09:19:11 AM

SixPaperJoint: Nurglitch: TexanBoy: Nurglitch: I'll stick with philosophers, thank you very much. At least they aren't pretending it's a science.

They pretend it matters, which is a might bit worse.

No, those are philosophy majors, just students. They don't let you have a post-graduate degree until you sign an affadavit promising not to take philosophy seriously.

Or you figure it out a year after graduation that the most meaningful question you ask is: "Why do you want fries with that?"


You're original!
 
2012-12-20 09:33:29 AM

Mr. Shabooboo: roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist

You've never been to a Christmas with a struggling middle class family, have you? Credit means you can buy it now, but pay for it later.

[quizicaldog.jpg]

I'm not sure what that has to do with my nit-picking the article's use of Potlatch...


Everything that you described matches what I have seen at Christmas in some families that can't afford lavish gifts, but give them anyway. I have heard it jokingly called "competitive gifting", which seems to fit your description of Potlatch pretty well.
 
2012-12-20 02:49:55 PM

roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: My problem with him using the Potlatch as a comparison is that it really wasn't as much
exchanging items, as it is a display of wealth and power. The Potlatch is a display of conspicuous
consumption. With the Potlatch showing that the group is so wealthy and powerful that it can
afford to dispose of incredible amounts of valuables. It's really a take on power through re-distribution.


/Anthropologist

You've never been to a Christmas with a struggling middle class family, have you? Credit means you can buy it now, but pay for it later.

[quizicaldog.jpg]

I'm not sure what that has to do with my nit-picking the article's use of Potlatch...

Everything that you described matches what I have seen at Christmas in some families that can't afford lavish gifts, but give them anyway. I have heard it jokingly called "competitive gifting", which seems to fit your description of Potlatch pretty well.


Well, If that is the case..Then I guess if the mukluk fits, wear it.. :)
 
2012-12-20 03:56:59 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: roc6783: Mr. Shabooboo: **snip**

Well, If that is the case..Then I guess if the mukluk fits, wear it.. :)


What the mukluk? I am gonna try and us that today.
 
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