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(LA Times)   U.S. government stops relocating otters away from fishing areas after discovering that otters can swim   (latimes.com) divider line 33
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2012-12-19 10:03:01 AM
Oh U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, you, you, you otter know better.
 
2012-12-19 10:11:43 AM
"The abandoned promise of otter-free waters is likely to anger urchin divers and other shellfish fishermen who believe the otters can devastate shellfish stocks and put them out of business."
 
 
Don't sell yourselves short, urchin divers and shellfish fishermen. You're perfectly capable of overharvesting yourselves out of business without any help from the sea otters.
 
2012-12-19 10:16:52 AM
Now where have I heard that one before..

How to fit 100 otters into a small passenger aircraft (LGT brilliant "Sherlock"/"Cabin Pressure" crossover)

"And one under each seat"
"But that's where the life jackets are."
"That's alright, otters can swim."
 
2012-12-19 11:06:35 AM
Otter futility
 
2012-12-19 11:11:55 AM

The Voice of Doom: Now where have I heard that one before..

How to fit 100 otters into a small passenger aircraft (LGT brilliant "Sherlock"/"Cabin Pressure" crossover)

"And one under each seat"
"But that's where the life jackets are."
"That's alright, otters can swim."


Now I can't stop imagining a hundred otters going nuts on an airplane.
 
2012-12-19 11:14:04 AM
It sounded like a good idea at the time.

On the otter hand, it didn't work.
 
2012-12-19 11:16:50 AM
cuteotters.com 
 
2012-12-19 11:18:10 AM
So this was an indirect government subsidy that benefited a select group of business people by reducing competition.
 
2012-12-19 11:18:33 AM
If you get rid of the otters, the local sea urchin population will expand. Sea urchins will eat the roots of kelp, causing the rest of the plant to float away. Fish that formerly lived in the kelp forest will also leave. Hope you like eating sea stars.
 
2012-12-19 11:22:27 AM

Ivo Shandor: If you get rid of the otters, the local sea urchin population will expand. Sea urchins will eat the roots of kelp, causing the rest of the plant to float away. Fish that formerly lived in the kelp forest will also leave. Hope you like eating sea stars.


Love 'em deep fried.
 
2012-12-19 11:22:38 AM
We need new Federal legislation governing otter movement.
 
This could harm the children if it's ignored. If the otters won't comply (and why wouldn't they if they have nothing to hide?), they must be terrorists.
 
Otters are everything that's wrong about our country!
 
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-19 11:22:40 AM
If you get rid of otters, then you can't watch them play. Where is the fun in that?
 
2012-12-19 11:25:27 AM

Ivo Shandor: If you get rid of the otters, the local sea urchin population will expand. Sea urchins will eat the roots of kelp, causing the rest of the plant to float away. Fish that formerly lived in the kelp forest will also leave. Hope you like eating sea stars.


And the Otter population will expand as well.

Why is it, that the most vehemently anti-naturalistic, anti-environmental capitalists see dollar signs every time they look at an undisturbed area, then complain and blame what already existed before they came to the area when their efforts to strip the area of it's value are successful?
 
2012-12-19 11:26:14 AM
How many otters suffer from "shark bites" as opposed to "shark swallows"??
 
2012-12-19 11:28:14 AM

kvinesknows: How many otters suffer from "shark bites" as opposed to "shark swallows"??



Only the survivors
 
2012-12-19 11:28:45 AM
There otter be a law.
 
2012-12-19 11:35:26 AM
It's long overdue," said Jim Curland, advocacy program director for Friends of the Sea Otter.

I've never met one single person who was a member of an organization called "Friends of the" anything that wasn't an insufferable douche bag. I'm not saying the two things go hand in hand as a matter of necessity. That's just been my experience.
 
2012-12-19 11:46:38 AM
"In a deal cut with fishermen, the government declared waters south of Point Conception to be off limits to otters."

Why didn't they get the otters to sign on with that deal? Problem solved.
 
2012-12-19 12:05:36 PM
Time to start investing in washtubs and tool chests.
 
2012-12-19 12:22:21 PM

ChrisDe: "In a deal cut with fishermen, the government declared waters south of Point Conception to be off limits to otters."

Why didn't they get the otters to sign on with that deal? Problem solved.


Once again, the lack of opposable thumbs on the part of one party blows a deal all to hell.

I understand it happens to Trump all the time.
 
2012-12-19 01:02:10 PM
You guys really otter stop making jokes. You're being quite shellfish.
 
2012-12-19 01:08:35 PM
Get it together, humans. You can't be both the lord and god of all creation, and then go around blaming a couple of sea otters for your annihilation of the fish. Aww, did things not turn out the way you wanted them to when you destroyed entire ecosystems for short-term gain? Maybe you should go kill some more animals and "manage" some more habitat to fix it. Since it worked so well the first time.
 
2012-12-19 01:14:31 PM

scubamage: You guys really otter stop making jokes. You're being quite shellfish.



Abalone
 
2012-12-19 01:40:57 PM
Should have just expanded hunting season. Oh, right, this is California, where pests have more rights than people
 
2012-12-19 01:43:04 PM

Lost Thought 00: Should have just expanded hunting season. Oh, right, this is California, where pests have more rights than people


The People ARE the pests, especially in this case.
 
2012-12-19 02:26:51 PM
This may be what starts the war between us and the Allied Atheist Alliance.


/kill the wise one!
 
2012-12-19 03:34:10 PM
This would be the same government that insists it needs more of our money?
 
2012-12-19 03:52:30 PM

treecologist: So this was an indirect government subsidy that benefited a select group of business people by reducing competition.



Kinda sorta. Part of the relocation had to do with the fact that the urchin and abalone divers were the main ones illegally killing the otters. It was hoped that by moving the otters, they would establish themselves in another area, which would be outside the divers' legal grounds, and then both groups (otters and divers) would be happy. It would have been better, of course, to prosecute the divers who were killing the otters; the problem is that the otter population is so small and vulnerable that there were fears it would die off while the legal action was being taken. So the relocation was done as an alternative solution.
 
Of course, the otters like their own territory, because they want to be where the urchins and abalone are most abundant. So the state will have to do it the hard way, and aggressively prosecute the divers.
 
2012-12-19 05:03:57 PM
Simple....let hunters EXECUTE those that come into the area, and sell the
pelts....that won't bother anyone :)
 
2012-12-19 07:01:46 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: scubamage: You guys really otter stop making jokes. You're being quite shellfish.


Abalone


Oh cod, it makes me eel when people carp and whale, just for the halibut.

/Mad props to QFG2.
 
2012-12-19 11:15:22 PM

Lost Thought 00: Should have just expanded hunting season. Oh, right, this is California, where pests have more rights than people


t0ak.roblox.com
 
2012-12-19 11:25:40 PM
And it only took the government 25 years to figure out this didn't work.

These are the people that are going to be in charge of our Health Care, well right after they get back from the DMV and doing a change of address at the Post Office.
 
2012-12-20 03:00:26 AM
As an otter furry, I got a kick out of this.

And the youtube link above.

i329.photobucket.com

Although I'm actually a river otter >_>
 
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