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2012-12-19 01:46:31 PM

eastiowa: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x428]



I noticed the AAs and econopaks. Doing some trap?
 
2012-12-19 01:46:35 PM
Huntin' wild PIGS of course.
 
2012-12-19 01:47:26 PM
Parents were sent an automated phone alert.
 
2012-12-19 01:47:37 PM

machoprogrammer: When I was in high school, people had guns in their cars quite often. Our school was in a moderately sized town, but had a lot of kids from the country going to it. Wasn't rare that kids would go hunting right after school, so they would keep guns in their trunks. This was around the time of Columbine, too, even a bit after.

What is funny is that the "zero policy" means no guns in the trunk, yet the kid would still be able to skip class (or go at lunch), drive home and get a gun if he or she was really intending to do it. It doesn't really do anything to prevent school shootings. Plus, I am pretty sure that even in Columbine the kids didn't go into school with the guns in their trunks


It was the same when I was in HS back in the 70s A lot of the farm boys had pickups and many had gun racks with a gun or two in it or at least a shotgun behind the seat. No one thought anything about it then. But then, we didn't have students going all medieval and shooting up the school either.
 
2012-12-19 01:48:09 PM

Richard Flaccid: eastiowa: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x428]

I was thinking, "now that's a man's car". Then I spotted the Bud Light lime. FAIL


and the well groomed poodle.

You must be from Iowa City? Quad Cities?
 
2012-12-19 01:49:12 PM

BigSnatch: As much as I think discretion is important in these cases and expulsion is excessive


Well luckily people with common sense don't give a damn what people like you think since the unfortunate event.

If you're stupid enough to bring a gun to school you deserve to face the consequences...whatever those may be where you go to school.
 
2012-12-19 01:50:34 PM

Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.



Conoco gas company tried this a few years back - fired employees who had guns in their cars in the parking lot.  Think the HQ was in Oklahoma or Texas or some other hunting-dominated state.  
 
/I no longer buy gas from Conoco.  
 
2012-12-19 01:51:57 PM

Richard Flaccid: eastiowa: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x428]

I was thinking, "now that's a man's car". Then I spotted the Bud Light lime. FAIL


Here you go. Nitrous tank, first-aid kit, ammo, rifles. 
i100.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-19 01:52:54 PM

CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB


Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.
 
2012-12-19 01:54:54 PM
Well, yeah, that was a pretty bad place to leave a weapon. A little consideration of policy would have saved this kid a truckload of trouble.

This is just an example of the disconnect we have between the people who view guns broadly as tools and objects vs those who view them specifically as instruments of death, though. The kid had a gun in his car, sure. To him it's probably just a thing you use to shoot game, I had the same problem growing up - I could never figure out why some people seemed so scared of what to me were just inanimate (though dangerous if improperly handled) objects. As I got older I realized those folks see all firearms as objects as well, it's just that in their mind every one of those objects is designed solely for murder.

No one had a problem with my swords, though. Odd since they where so specifically designed to kill people you can't even use them for anything else.
 
HBK
2012-12-19 01:55:05 PM

Red_Fox: Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.


"America should change because I am afraid of guns."

The world's not going to change because you wet yourself at the idea of a gun or, heaven forbid, shotgun shells.
 
2012-12-19 01:56:36 PM

Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.


Well...hopefully he was a minor...if not, yup. He will be nearly unemployable.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:02 PM

BigSnatch: Mark Ratner: SlothB77: at least put it in the trunk where it isn't visible to someone looking through the window.
 
My first thought, too, but I wonder if they use bomb/drug sniffing dogs. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
 
In the video, the reporter said that the shotgun and knife were in plain sight of the police officers as they swept the parking lot. She also said that the penalty for having weapons on school property is expulsion.
 
As much as I think discretion is important in these cases and expulsion is excessive, if you're on school property with those items, you'd better know school policy regarding those items.
 
IMO, the kid is just a dumbass. A couple days of ISS where he has to write an essay on responsible gun ownership would suffice as reasonable punishment.


There's a lengthy training period before you can even qualify to go to the ISS. Especially with the Russians controlling the access, I don't think it's possible to go for just a couple of days. That also seems like you're rewarding the kid for doing something that is fundamentally dumb.

I think it would be better just to suspend him and have him serve that suspension time in school.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:26 PM

Red_Fox: CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB

Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.


It may shock you, but despite all the noise you make most Americans don't agree with you.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:26 PM
I know it's all a matter of opinion, but hunting is kinda a farkin' stupid waste of time to begin with.
 
2012-12-19 01:59:19 PM
In rural PA year 2000 we used to bring our rifles to school and clean them for hunting season. Hell we even loaded shot shells for duck hunting in shop.

Then planes hit a building and some douche threw a pipe bomb.

Now nail clippers are weapons.

WTF America. Pansies.
 
2012-12-19 01:59:59 PM

JackieRabbit: It was the same when I was in HS back in the 70s A lot of the farm boys had pickups and many had gun racks with a gun or two in it or at least a shotgun behind the seat. No one thought anything about it then. But then, we didn't have students going all medieval and shooting up the school either.


I have a very vivid memory of someone in our high school parking lot having their vehicle searched by the principle after school. Our school was (obviously) an alcohol-free zone and they had left some cans in the floorboard and some in the truck bed. Several of us gathered around and was giving the guy crap because the principle found a case behind the seat and was making him open each can and pour it out on the parking lot.

There was a lever action .30-30 and a shotgun in the rack in his back window.
 
2012-12-19 02:00:07 PM

Red_Fox: CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB

Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.


I'm not a gun lover. Don't even own one any more (well, I think my shotgun and .22 rifle may still be in my parent's attic). But you need to stop and think about WHY our country has become so dangerous and strange. We've always had guns and we've always had people who kill other people with them. But we never had high school kids killing their classmates, or Sideshow Bobs shooting up a movie theater, or some upscale holocaust prepper's strange emo spawn killing 20 six year olds with an assault weapon. What changed over the last 30 years? Guns are not the real issue. The real issue is how we got so farked up so fast.
 
2012-12-19 02:00:09 PM

JesseL: Red_Fox: CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB

Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.

It may shock you, but despite all the noise you make most Americans don't agree with you.


Oh wait, you're Canadian. In that case just STFU. Nobody cares about you.
 
2012-12-19 02:00:44 PM

Red_Fox: CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB

Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.


The general public keeps getting stupider and stupider.
 
2012-12-19 02:01:28 PM

MattyFridays: doglover:

Everything dismissed, records expunged. Why? I didn't do anything actionable(unless fashion police are a real thing) They just din't like me.

Some kid was just committed in Maryland today because of what authorities call a "credible threat". They found no guns, no plans, just reports from "other students".

So weird kid gets locked up because he's weird.

Fantastic.


Last week this would've been called bullying.
 
2012-12-19 02:01:44 PM
It wasn't too many years ago and there was a great hue and cry about school officials conducting searches of students' lockers. Seems it was considered a great invasion of a student's privacy for school officials to search school-owned lockers inside the school building. So how is it that in this case, school officials were conducting a sweep of privately owned vehicles that happened to be (we'll presume legally) parked on school property?
 
2012-12-19 02:03:10 PM

KingKauff: I'm at work with a full box of bullets in my book bag that I forgot to take out when I got home from hunting last weekend, so I'm getting a bang out of this


i'm at work right now and have bullets, and a disassembled FN 5.7 on my desk.

... but I work from home and i'm cleaning the pistol, waiting for a conference call.
 
2012-12-19 02:03:21 PM

JesseL: JesseL: Red_Fox: CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB

Look I get it, you gun lovers don't think twice about there being a gun in your car or ammo in your pocket. It's not a big deal to you. That is no longer how your country is going to be and you'd better adjust to it or you're going to get in legal trouble. The general public is not going to support you anymore.

It may shock you, but despite all the noise you make most Americans don't agree with you.

Oh wait, you're Canadian. In that case just STFU. Nobody cares about you.


Canadian, eh? No wonder he is so out of touch with the actual opinion of the American public.
 
2012-12-19 02:03:30 PM
For those with knife stories and those commenting on said knife stories, here's mine. I've carried a pocketknife since I was in middle school (I'm 36 now). A few years ago I traveled to Australia on a business trip. I packed my three blade folding pocket knife in my checked bag, the longest blade is 3 inches. I knew I would be taking a physical inventory of a manufacturing facility and thought I might need it to cut tags, tape, ect. Once day I pulled it out to cut a zip tie off of a box. I quickly learned from the locals that my knife was illegal to carry as it's considered a concealed deadly weapon and if I got caught with it I would be in jail. My story is two fold. One, I'm an idiot for not knowing local laws..but seriously WTF, I can see a bowie knife but a folder!?!?!. I'm not sure where a leatherman tool would be categoried. Two, this is where the USA will end up. It will be incremental and events such as Sandy Hook will continue to happen with different weapons. Next thing will be knives over x inches and no swords. Beware the pointy sticks too.
 
2012-12-19 02:04:34 PM
I was at the shooting range a few years back and we were shooting Berettas. Women were in the two lanes next to me.

We had 10 seconds to fire three shots. Two to the body, one to the head.

Range master or whatever the fark he's called yelled cease fire after the 10 seconds were up. Two seconds later I hear BAM! as the woman to my right discharges her gun. I'm like wtf. Later on im counting the holes in my target and i have a few more than the number of rounds i shot. I'm like wtf...

Later on the woman to my left gets yelled at by the range master guy for...*pointing her pistol at my back*.

He said "if you point that at his back one more time you're off the range!"

I was like "kick her out of here NOW!"

CSB.
 
2012-12-19 02:04:49 PM
eastiowa: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x428]

I was thinking, "now that's a man's car". Then I spotted the Bud Light lime. FAIL

and the well groomed poodle.

You must be from Iowa City? Quad Cities?


Davenport.... thanks

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-19 02:05:14 PM

EnviroDude: At least it wasn't a pocket knife in a survival kit locked in the trunk of a car


jesus christ. Really?
 
2012-12-19 02:06:01 PM
We walked to school--- cars were an expensive luxury. We brought guns for show and tell. No big deal as long as they were unloaded. We had a school skeet shooting team.
 
2012-12-19 02:07:02 PM

filter: We walked to school--- cars were an expensive luxury. We brought guns for show and tell. No big deal as long as they were unloaded. We had a school skeet shooting team.


You farking monster.
 
2012-12-19 02:07:48 PM

boozehat: KingKauff: I'm at work with a full box of bullets in my book bag that I forgot to take out when I got home from hunting last weekend, so I'm getting a bang out of this

i'm at work right now and have bullets, and a disassembled FN 5.7 on my desk.

... but I work from home and i'm cleaning the pistol, waiting for a conference call.


FN 5.7 huh?

You must be a cop killer.
 
2012-12-19 02:08:03 PM

havocmike: I know it's all a matter of opinion, but hunting is kinda a farkin' stupid waste of time to begin with.


So is sitting in a coffee shop all day drinking lattes. To each their own.
 
2012-12-19 02:08:14 PM

sammyk: Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.


I grew up in Wyoming and that was the norm. Hell I got a mini 14 for my 15th birthday.



A mini-14 for your birthday? You spoiled(lucky) bastard.
 
2012-12-19 02:09:52 PM

You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: boozehat: KingKauff: I'm at work with a full box of bullets in my book bag that I forgot to take out when I got home from hunting last weekend, so I'm getting a bang out of this

i'm at work right now and have bullets, and a disassembled FN 5.7 on my desk.

... but I work from home and i'm cleaning the pistol, waiting for a conference call.

FN 5.7 huh?

You must be a cop killer.


I've only got blue tips. They shoot good, but not through even soft armor.
 
2012-12-19 02:10:21 PM

occamswrist: I was at the shooting range a few years back and we were shooting Berettas. Women were in the two lanes next to me.

We had 10 seconds to fire three shots. Two to the body, one to the head.

Range master or whatever the fark he's called yelled cease fire after the 10 seconds were up. Two seconds later I hear BAM! as the woman to my right discharges her gun. I'm like wtf. Later on im counting the holes in my target and i have a few more than the number of rounds i shot. I'm like wtf...

Later on the woman to my left gets yelled at by the range master guy for...*pointing her pistol at my back*.

He said "if you point that at his back one more time you're off the range!"

I was like "kick her out of here NOW!"

CSB.


It's morons like that woman that end up accidentally shooting a family member or friend because they thought it wasn't loaded.
People like her dont need firearms...
 
2012-12-19 02:11:01 PM

ElLoco:
I have a very vivid memory of someone in our high school parking lot having their vehicle searched by the principle after school. Our school was (obviously) an alcohol-free zone and they had left some cans in the floorboard and some in the truck bed. Several of us gathered around and was giving the guy crap because the principle found a case behind the seat and was making him open each can and pour it out on the parking lot.

There was a lever action .30-30 and a shotgun in the rack in his back window.


That's precisely the way such things should be handled. I bet the kid didn't have his life ruined over it -- just embarrassed over it. I bet he never brought booze onto school grounds again, either.

Nowadays ... ti's the end of the world if you do something like that. And god forbid you have a weapon.
 
2012-12-19 02:11:29 PM

boozehat: You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: boozehat: KingKauff: I'm at work with a full box of bullets in my book bag that I forgot to take out when I got home from hunting last weekend, so I'm getting a bang out of this

i'm at work right now and have bullets, and a disassembled FN 5.7 on my desk.

... but I work from home and i'm cleaning the pistol, waiting for a conference call.

FN 5.7 huh?

You must be a cop killer.

I've only got blue tips. They shoot good, but not through even soft armor.


The media said you cop killers would try to say that!!!
 
2012-12-19 02:12:20 PM

myrrh: ElLoco:
I have a very vivid memory of someone in our high school parking lot having their vehicle searched by the principle after school. Our school was (obviously) an alcohol-free zone and they had left some cans in the floorboard and some in the truck bed. Several of us gathered around and was giving the guy crap because the principle found a case behind the seat and was making him open each can and pour it out on the parking lot.

There was a lever action .30-30 and a shotgun in the rack in his back window.

That's precisely the way such things should be handled. I bet the kid didn't have his life ruined over it -- just embarrassed over it. I bet he never brought booze onto school grounds again, either.

Nowadays ... ti's the end of the world if you do something like that. And god forbid you have a weapon.


And let's be clear...ANY sort of weapon.
 
2012-12-19 02:13:22 PM
Hunting all weekend, and now in the middle of the week the gun's still in the trunk?  Irresponsible gun ownership.  Take that biatch out and clean it!
 
2012-12-19 02:13:30 PM

myrrh: ElLoco:
I have a very vivid memory of someone in our high school parking lot having their vehicle searched by the principle after school. Our school was (obviously) an alcohol-free zone and they had left some cans in the floorboard and some in the truck bed. Several of us gathered around and was giving the guy crap because the principle found a case behind the seat and was making him open each can and pour it out on the parking lot.

There was a lever action .30-30 and a shotgun in the rack in his back window.

That's precisely the way such things should be handled. I bet the kid didn't have his life ruined over it -- just embarrassed over it. I bet he never brought booze onto school grounds again, either.

Nowadays ... ti's the end of the world if you do something like that. And god forbid you have a weapon.


And this is exactly why shootings happen. Our kids are not even remotely raised right any more.
 
2012-12-19 02:13:40 PM

HBK: "America should change because I am afraid of guns."
The world's not going to change because you wet yourself at the idea of a gun or, heaven forbid, shotgun shells.


Everyone in the country is not going to arm themselves either, so that you tiny percentage of gun lovers can continue to have your love affair with lethal weapons. Because that's your solution, right---everyone should just be better armed. That's the one I keep hearing around here.

Well, I have several big pit bulls that sometimes get loose. When they get killed I get more, I just love my mean guard dogs. Tough shiat if you don't like it, it's my right to own dogs. Why don't you go get some big dogs of your own, so you can defend yourself from the pit bulls of the world? You aren't going to take MY rights away from ME.

/and that's how you all sound too--it's all about YOU and your precious toys.
 
2012-12-19 02:14:23 PM

sammyk: Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.


I grew up in Wyoming and that was the norm. Hell I got a mini 14 for my 15th birthday.


The school I went to allowed kids to bring their guns into school until the mid 80's.
 
2012-12-19 02:14:24 PM

Mr. Right: It wasn't too many years ago and there was a great hue and cry about school officials conducting searches of students' lockers. Seems it was considered a great invasion of a student's privacy for school officials to search school-owned lockers inside the school building. So how is it that in this case, school officials were conducting a sweep of privately owned vehicles that happened to be (we'll presume legally) parked on school property?


What's funny about it is, in many places, a vehicle and its contents are considered an extension of your house -- therefore anything you can store legally in your house can be stored in your car as well. But there seems to be some special derp exception to school grounds in a lot of places as well.

Lesson? Don't park on school property. Of course, I bet they've found a way to get you anyway, such as "well he was *on the way to* school, so therefore... derp"
 
2012-12-19 02:14:45 PM

crowbar032: For those with knife stories and those commenting on said knife stories, here's mine. I've carried a pocketknife since I was in middle school (I'm 36 now). A few years ago I traveled to Australia on a business trip. I packed my three blade folding pocket knife in my checked bag, the longest blade is 3 inches. I knew I would be taking a physical inventory of a manufacturing facility and thought I might need it to cut tags, tape, ect. Once day I pulled it out to cut a zip tie off of a box. I quickly learned from the locals that my knife was illegal to carry as it's considered a concealed deadly weapon and if I got caught with it I would be in jail. My story is two fold. One, I'm an idiot for not knowing local laws..but seriously WTF, I can see a bowie knife but a folder!?!?!. I'm not sure where a leatherman tool would be categoried. Two, this is where the USA will end up. It will be incremental and events such as Sandy Hook will continue to happen with different weapons. Next thing will be knives over x inches and no swords. Beware the pointy sticks too.


I read this and thought WTF?... So I did some quick searching. Knife laws in Australia vary from territory to territory. It isn't illegal per se to carry a pocket knife, but you must have good cause to do so and self-defense isn't acceptable. And it isn't just knives, but any tool that could inflict harm. Most Aussies think the laws are ridiculous and are purely political. Many places refuse to enforce them. I cannot imagine that they could be enforced in the bush.
 
2012-12-19 02:16:10 PM

cryinoutloud: HBK: "America should change because I am afraid of guns."
The world's not going to change because you wet yourself at the idea of a gun or, heaven forbid, shotgun shells.

Everyone in the country is not going to arm themselves either, so that you tiny percentage of gun lovers can continue to have your love affair with lethal weapons. Because that's your solution, right---everyone should just be better armed. That's the one I keep hearing around here.

Well, I have several big pit bulls that sometimes get loose. When they get killed I get more, I just love my mean guard dogs. Tough shiat if you don't like it, it's my right to own dogs. Why don't you go get some big dogs of your own, so you can defend yourself from the pit bulls of the world? You aren't going to take MY rights away from ME.

/and that's how you all sound too--it's all about YOU and your precious toys.


The big difference is my gun isn't going to go out on it's own and savagely maul people, nor take multiple rounds to stop.
 
2012-12-19 02:16:45 PM

eastiowa: eastiowa: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x428]

I was thinking, "now that's a man's car". Then I spotted the Bud Light lime. FAIL

and the well groomed poodle.

You must be from Iowa City? Quad Cities?

Davenport.... thanks

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 556x640]


I actually did know that standard poodles are good retrievers. I was just teasing.

But people like myself that grew up in Bettendorf would never be caught drinking a Bud Light lime!
 
2012-12-19 02:17:06 PM
To be fair, Sideshow Bob was just getting back from his one man show called "The Man With The Plan" that he put on for himself and accidentally left all those assault weapons and body armor on his his person and then proceeded to panic once he realized what a fish out of water he was, what with being in a movie theatre with several assault weapons or what have you.
 
2012-12-19 02:17:41 PM
I think all this idiotic paranoia is great. The more cops keep busy with this stupid shiat the less they are available to monitor my various 'indiscretions' out in the real world.
 
2012-12-19 02:18:26 PM

HBK: durbnpoisn: HBK: durbnpoisn: Around here (NJ), if you get pulled over with a gun in your car in plain site, you are just asking to have your car taken apart and searched. Hell, I had that happen to me once because I had a plastic sword in my backseat.

You know that you should always refuse those searches.


Where I grew up, if you refused the search, they would make you sit there while they went and got a search warrant. And then they would search the car extra-special-like. In some cases, they would plant something. Point is, you dindn't F with the cops in my area.

They need probable cause to search the car. They need probable cause to obtain a search warrant. If what you're saying is true and the court was complicit in allowing illegal searches, then they violated the constitution and should be sued. Any competent attorney could get that search thrown out of court.

But it sounds more like an urban legend to me.



I'm sure you're probably right. Perhaps they were simply bluffing by threatening to get a warrant. But for the 5 minutes it takes for them to search the car, and since I had nothing to hide, I would just step aside and say, "have at it".

See, this is the thing... My older brother was well known by the cops because he was always in trouble. As a consequence for me, the cops all thought I was like him. So about 4 times a week I would get pulled over and hassled. Many times did I wonder when they were going to wake up and realize that I was never riding dirty.
 
HBK
2012-12-19 02:19:07 PM

cryinoutloud: Everyone in the country is not going to arm themselves either, so that you tiny percentage of gun lovers can continue to have your love affair with lethal weapons. Because that's your solution, right---everyone should just be better armed. That's the one I keep hearing around here.


Ah, you're a troll. Because 47% gun ownership is not a tiny percentage of the country.
 
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