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2012-12-19 09:03:17 AM
On one hand, I want to say "zero tolerance OMG WHARGARBL!"
But on the other hand, I want to say "hey dumbshiat, if you can't put your gun up when you're done with it, maybe you shouldn't have one?"
 
2012-12-19 09:05:51 AM
at least put it in the trunk where it isn't visible to someone looking through the window.
 
2012-12-19 09:27:34 AM
well that kid's life is ruined forever.
 
2012-12-19 09:38:22 AM
It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.
 
2012-12-19 09:52:03 AM

SlothB77: at least put it in the trunk where it isn't visible to someone looking through the window.

 
My first thought, too, but I wonder if they use bomb/drug sniffing dogs. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
2012-12-19 09:59:14 AM

Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.



I grew up in Wyoming and that was the norm. Hell I got a mini 14 for my 15th birthday.
 
2012-12-19 10:29:34 AM

Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.


I was arrested for post Columbine paranoia.

ZOMG, unpopular kid with long hair. He must be a THREAT.

Everything dismissed, records expunged. Why? I didn't do anything actionable(unless fashion police are a real thing) They just din't like me.
 
2012-12-19 10:38:30 AM

Mark Ratner: SlothB77: at least put it in the trunk where it isn't visible to someone looking through the window.
 
My first thought, too, but I wonder if they use bomb/drug sniffing dogs. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

 
 
In the video, the reporter said that the shotgun and knife were in plain sight of the police officers as they swept the parking lot. She also said that the penalty for having weapons on school property is expulsion.
 
As much as I think discretion is important in these cases and expulsion is excessive, if you're on school property with those items, you'd better know school policy regarding those items.
 
IMO, the kid is just a dumbass. A couple days of ISS where he has to write an essay on responsible gun ownership would suffice as reasonable punishment.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 10:48:47 AM
I don't know about expulsion, but just being that careless with a gun is  dangerous.  A car is a stupid place to keep a gun anyway, it's way too easy to steal.  Especially if it's visible from outside of the car.
 
It doesn't do much good to keep mentally unstable people from buying guns if they can just look for a car with a gun in it that someone forgot to unlock, or break out a window with a rock.
 
2012-12-19 11:09:08 AM

Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.

 
 
That's true. Where I went to high school we would have our guns in our rear window gun racks so we could go hunting immediately after school. Deer hunting season was almost like Christmas vacation around there. Not a lot of work got done that week.
 
Times are different now, plus I live in a suburban area. I doubt kids would get away with that in even the most rural settings these days.
 
2012-12-19 11:11:59 AM

BigSnatch: In the video, the reporter said that the shotgun and knife were in plain sight of the police officers as they swept the parking lot. She also said that the penalty for having weapons on school property is expulsion.



My fault for not watching the video. Yep, he deserves whatever punishment he gets, although expulsion does seem too harsh if he's otherwise been a good kid.


 
 
2012-12-19 11:58:16 AM
 
db2
2012-12-19 12:52:26 PM
Guys, we'd better extrapolate future events and overreact to every potential warning sign. It's for the children.
 
2012-12-19 12:52:43 PM

EnviroDude: At least it wasn't a pocket knife in a survival kit locked in the trunk of a car



Hang, draw and quarter that responsible kid!
 
2012-12-19 12:54:31 PM
oh thank god I feel so much safer, sitting here in Maryland.
 
2012-12-19 12:55:50 PM

doglover:

Everything dismissed, records expunged. Why? I didn't do anything actionable(unless fashion police are a real thing) They just din't like me.


Some kid was just committed in Maryland today because of what authorities call a "credible threat". They found no guns, no plans, just reports from "other students".

So weird kid gets locked up because he's weird.

Fantastic.
 
2012-12-19 12:55:57 PM
CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB
 
2012-12-19 12:56:00 PM

doglover: Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.

I was arrested for post Columbine paranoia.

ZOMG, unpopular kid with long hair. He must be a THREAT.

Everything dismissed, records expunged. Why? I didn't do anything actionable(unless fashion police are a real thing) They just din't like me.


Well, to be fair, even if these mass casualty events didn't happen nobody would like you anyway.

/I keed
 
2012-12-19 12:56:28 PM

vpb: I don't know about expulsion, but just being that careless with a gun is  dangerous.  A car is a stupid place to keep a gun anyway, it's way too easy to steal.  Especially if it's visible from outside of the car.
 
It doesn't do much good to keep mentally unstable people from buying guns if they can just look for a car with a gun in it that someone forgot to unlock, or break out a window with a rock.


This reminds me of for all the talk I hear about people needing to arm themselves against house intrusion, every gun owner I know who's been robbed had it happen when no one was home. NRA stickers on your car don't say "Owner is armed, go to the next house", they say "Wait until I'm not home to steal all my guns".
 
2012-12-19 12:56:28 PM
Now this is just ridiculous. Yeah, numbnutz should be slapped, but not with charges.
 
2012-12-19 12:56:31 PM

serial_crusher: On one hand, I want to say "zero tolerance OMG WHARGARBL!"
But on the other hand, I want to say "hey dumbshiat, if you can't put your gun up when you're done with it, maybe you shouldn't have one?"


I worked at a rural school district for a year, and it wasn't uncommon for the senior students to bring rifles and shotguns to school but leave them in the car, especially if left in the trunk. No one would even know without an aggressive search of all the vehicles in the parking lot. As far as I know, this was mainly done during deer hunting season so that if you saw a deer on your way home from school, but the administration was pretty lax about it year round.

I once found spent shotgun shells in the parking lot and the administration just told me to throw them away. A know some schools that would have been on full-lockdown with the discovery of anything like that, even at times when we weren't hyper-sensitive about it.
 
2012-12-19 12:58:02 PM
My high school back in the 90s used this as an excuse to expel one of their trouble students.

He wasn't that much trouble, and was pretty harmless, he just like disrupting class by burping the alphabet backwards, probably would have been diagnosed as Asperger's today. Good hunter too.

His sister was hot, but actually ended up the more dangerous of the siblings. She went nuts after high school. I wonder if her parents transferring to the school her brother ended up going to damaged her more than him...
 
2012-12-19 12:58:08 PM
He's one lucky kid, they didn't find his weed.
 
2012-12-19 12:58:13 PM
I wonder what exactly the automated phone message said.
 
HBK
2012-12-19 12:58:33 PM
Several kids at my high school would wake up around 4am, go hunting, then come to school. Hell, in the 80s my school used to let kids who were in the trap/skeet club bring their guns in to school so they wouldn't have to leave them in their cars to get stolen.

The outrage here is pants on head retarded.
 
2012-12-19 12:59:30 PM
And I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
 
2012-12-19 12:59:39 PM

SnarfVader: Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.
 
 
That's true. Where I went to high school we would have our guns in our rear window gun racks so we could go hunting immediately after school. Deer hunting season was almost like Christmas vacation around there. Not a lot of work got done that week.
 
Times are different now, plus I live in a suburban area. I doubt kids would get away with that in even the most rural settings these days.


I grew up in the outer fringe of suburbia and it was like pulling teeth to get an excused absence to go hunting. I can't imagine that I'll be able to take my son hunting out of state when he's in high school like my dad did with me. It will just have to be weekend hunting close to home.
 
2012-12-19 12:59:48 PM

Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.


I graduated in '94. Nearly every truck had a gun rack. Nearly everybody carried axes in the rig as well. Oh no! Kids who go logging after school in areas full of bear and cougar have firearms and axes in their trucks! Oh course everybody was chopped up and shot at least 2-3 times a day. Oh wait, that didn't happen. All we did was have a couple of well deserved ass whuppings a week.

Now the school is a gun-free zone and there have been attempted gang rapes outside of the resource office door in front of a hundred kids. Only the DeMolay boys did anything about it.
 
2012-12-19 01:00:07 PM

Sybarite: It's funny but I was just talking to a friend last night who grew up in a very rural area and she was saying how many pickups in the parking lot would have guns in their racks during hunting season.


Must not have been that rural if they actually showed up to school during hunting season.

/I thought it was normal that schools made the first day of every hunting season (doe and buck) a vacation day.
 
2012-12-19 01:00:09 PM

serial_crusher: On one hand, I want to say "zero tolerance OMG WHARGARBL!"
But on the other hand, I want to say "hey dumbshiat, if you can't put your gun up when you're done with it, maybe you shouldn't have one?"



My thoughts too. I think that the type of people who forget to take a shotgun out of their car at school are going to be the same people who forget to take their kids out of the car during the summer when they go to work... 
 
2012-12-19 01:00:18 PM
Stay classy, libs!

Just going to get worse from here on out, because liberals refuse to use common sense.

And yes, growing up in a rural town in the late 70's early 80s, during deer season there were plenty of rifles in gun racks in pickups. Weird how there was no problems, huh?
 
2012-12-19 01:01:01 PM

BigSnatch: Mark Ratner: SlothB77: at least put it in the trunk where it isn't visible to someone looking through the window.
 
My first thought, too, but I wonder if they use bomb/drug sniffing dogs. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
 
In the video, the reporter said that the shotgun and knife were in plain sight of the police officers as they swept the parking lot. She also said that the penalty for having weapons on school property is expulsion.
 
As much as I think discretion is important in these cases and expulsion is excessive, if you're on school property with those items, you'd better know school policy regarding those items.
 
IMO, the kid is just a dumbass. A couple days of ISS where he has to write an essay on responsible gun ownership would suffice as reasonable punishment.



On one hand I agree... But on the other hand, this is very similar to what just happened in CN. Legal gun owner left guns unnattended, guns were taken and used to kill people - lots of them.

So, I don't think the punishment is too harsh. If he hand any brains at all, he would have had the gun stowed in the trunk to begin with. Around here (NJ), if you get pulled over with a gun in your car in plain site, you are just asking to have your car taken apart and searched. Hell, I had that happen to me once because I had a plastic sword in my backseat.
 
2012-12-19 01:01:06 PM

MattyFridays: Some kid was just committed in Maryland today because of what authorities call a "credible threat". They found no guns, no plans, just reports from "other students".


Perhaps not plans per se, but they claim they found "graphs, charts, diagrams, and lists [...] that suggested he may be planning to harm other people". I suspect they're way over-interpreting whatever they found, but without knowing what they found, maybe they do have some kind of physical evidence.
 
2012-12-19 01:01:40 PM
/CSB/
My Eagle Scout cousin was expelled and couldn't graduate because he had hunting knife in his Jeep's glove box.

Expelled.

The kid in the article is screwed. But yeah, dumb move. Take your gun out when you're done hunting.
 
2012-12-19 01:02:11 PM
God, I always hated school. I was the quiet, weird kid who kept to himself and didn't have a lot of friends. Every time there was a school shooting, there was a solid 3 months of shiat heaped on me.

If you want to encourage murders and school shootings, keep doing exactly that, people! Find the isolated, smart, frustrated kids who are already abjectly miserable in school and just make it worse by threatening them with legal action and frisking them constantly because other kids "make reports".

If I were in high school after this one, I'd probably be in handcuffs getting fisted by the School Resource Officer.
 
2012-12-19 01:02:17 PM

Disposable Rob: NRA stickers on your car don't say "Owner is armed, go to the next house", they say "Wait until I'm not home to steal all my guns".


It would be kind of funny to make up stickers that say that and paste them under the NRA stickers.
 
2012-12-19 01:02:19 PM

Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.



When someone screws up with a gun, frequently someone's life is ruined forever.
 
HBK
2012-12-19 01:03:57 PM

durbnpoisn: Around here (NJ), if you get pulled over with a gun in your car in plain site, you are just asking to have your car taken apart and searched. Hell, I had that happen to me once because I had a plastic sword in my backseat.


You know that you should always refuse those searches.
 
2012-12-19 01:04:37 PM

sammyk: I grew up in Wyoming and that was the norm. Hell I got a mini 14 for my 15th birthday.


i48.tinypic.com

What, did your parent hate you?
 
2012-12-19 01:05:01 PM
 
2012-12-19 01:05:10 PM

vygramul: Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.


When someone screws up with a gun, frequently someone's life is ruined forever.


This happened to a friend of mine in high school and he went to live a normal life.
 
2012-12-19 01:06:27 PM
I'm at work with a full box of bullets in my book bag that I forgot to take out when I got home from hunting last weekend, so I'm getting a bang out of this
 
2012-12-19 01:07:17 PM

Giltric: Could have been worse...


could have been a stick figure drawing.


That... just... no.
 
2012-12-19 01:07:48 PM

CJHardin: CSB

When I was in 10th grade I was in first period class and realized that I had 3 12 gauge shotgun shells in my pocket from waiting for a deer that morning at my place. I immediately went and discreetly told her my mistake. She nodded and I handed her the 3 shells where the other students could not see them. I went back to my desk. She left. About 5 minutes later I'm being taken out by the SRO and my vehicle is being searched. I ended up being suspended for 10 days from that stunt.

/CSB



People do not understand incentives.  This creates an incentive for a student not to self-report, and eventually, something bad will happen.
 
2012-12-19 01:07:50 PM

serial_crusher: On one hand, I want to say "zero tolerance OMG WHARGARBL!"
But on the other hand, I want to say "hey dumbshiat, if you can't put your gun up when you're done with it, maybe you shouldn't have one?"


I think the second one. It might be only one mistake, but *responsible* gun owners wouldn't do something this dumb. If you don't know better, no guns for you.
 
2012-12-19 01:08:24 PM

serial_crusher: On one hand, I want to say "zero tolerance OMG WHARGARBL!"
But on the other hand, I want to say "hey dumbshiat, if you can't put your gun up when you're done with it, maybe you shouldn't have one?"


All gun owners are responsible owners...

...right up until they point where they aren't responsible owners, and thus excluded from the discussion on gun control.
 
2012-12-19 01:08:47 PM

monoski: vygramul: Weaver95: well that kid's life is ruined forever.


When someone screws up with a gun, frequently someone's life is ruined forever.

This happened to a friend of mine in high school and he went to live a normal life.



Apparently, he didn't end up on fark, so his life isn't totally in the shiatter.
 
2012-12-19 01:09:08 PM

Thunderpipes: Stay classy, libs!

Just going to get worse from here on out, because liberals refuse to use common sense.

And yes, growing up in a rural town in the late 70's early 80s, during deer season there were plenty of rifles in gun racks in pickups. Weird how there was no problems, huh?



We're not in Mayberry anymore, Goober.
 
2012-12-19 01:09:27 PM

EnviroDude: At least it wasn't a pocket knife in a survival kit locked in the trunk of a car



So let me get this straight.  A kid, no...a Boy Scout no doubt, has a two-inch pocket knife locked in the trunk of his car ina survival kit and gets suspended?  C'mon.  I know everyone is shaken up over what happened last week, and I know there is a "zero tolerance" policy.  But for Christ's sake...where's the voice of reason?
 
2012-12-19 01:09:29 PM

vpb: but just being that careless with a gun is dangerous.


Being careless with a gun is your Constitutional right.
 
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