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2012-12-19 09:55:47 AM
85% across all his income or he reached the highest taxation rate with a portion of his income?
 
European elites have been known to do this for many years. Check Monaco, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, etc. for tax exiles. Never heard of Belgium though.
 
2012-12-19 10:17:53 AM
I think it'd be AWESOME to see a bunch of arrogant rich billionaires run to Ireland and then start pushing the little people around.  yes - go and lord it over the irish peasants.  because THAT has ALWAYS worked out so well in the past...
 
make sure you wear a lot of orange too.  or black and tan colored clothing.  good luck storming the castle!
 
2012-12-19 10:27:01 AM
He seems pretty full of himself.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 11:05:43 AM
U.S. for lower taxes. Yes, you read that correctly: the U.S. 
 
Why would anyone think they didn't read that correctly?  Belgium has a 50% top marginal rate.  It's 36% in the US.
 
The only reason he moved to Belgium instead of the US is because they speak French there and it's close to France.
 
2012-12-19 11:29:43 AM
What the Fark is Fark doing with Farking links and images?
 
2012-12-19 11:31:26 AM
 
2012-12-19 12:00:50 PM
Just wait until he notices there's a 200% sales tax on waffles and frites.
 
And if he doesn't notice I look forward to Belgium easily affording their first warp-drive manned mission to Alpha Centauri.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 12:17:34 PM

hinten: What the Fark is Fark doing with Farking links and images?


 
Farking them up.
 
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 12:29:54 PM

hinten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world



When I look at that list I notice that the places that are worth living in have tax rates of 50%  or more and/or a VAT and tend to have higher payroll taxes.
 
We do have the same top marginal rate as Iran though.
 
2012-12-19 12:48:51 PM
For all his castigating the wealthy for not doing more, it amazes me that Bono gets a pass for operating out of Cypus for tax perposes.
 
2012-12-19 12:57:32 PM
So, why is this in "Entertainment" again and not "Politics"?
 
2012-12-19 01:12:49 PM
Wonder if this will have more of an impact on his career than when he admitted to participating in a gang-bang rape
 
2012-12-19 01:21:51 PM
Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)

This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
2012-12-19 01:23:34 PM
He peed on a plane.
 
2012-12-19 01:29:10 PM
Job creators exaggerating their tax bill? Say it ain't so!
 
2012-12-19 01:30:46 PM
Zut Alors!
 
2012-12-19 01:35:11 PM
That's one of the most punchable faces I've seen in a while. 
 
2012-12-19 01:37:49 PM
le bossu
at his best
 
2012-12-19 01:38:59 PM

mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)

This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.


Really?

cdn2.screenjunkies.com
 
2012-12-19 01:42:31 PM
It's a tradeoff. He won't be contributing in taxes, and he won't be taking in medical care and pavement buttressing.
 
2012-12-19 01:47:37 PM

GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)

 
This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
Really?
 
[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]
 
 
She was 16.
 
2012-12-19 01:48:11 PM
Hey, he doesn't live there anymore, so I don't see a problem
 
2012-12-19 01:50:12 PM

GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)

This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.

Really?

[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]


Great googly moogly.
 
2012-12-19 01:51:34 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)
 
This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
Really?
 
[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]
 
 
She was 16.


I'm not an ageist.
 
2012-12-19 01:54:27 PM

monoski: Wonder if this will have more of an impact on his career than when he admitted to participating in a gang-bang rape


huh?
 
2012-12-19 01:56:31 PM
At 85% I'll grant the whiny rich people in France a pass for being whiny. That seems more than just a little bit excessive.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:14 PM

liam76: monoski: Wonder if this will have more of an impact on his career than when he admitted to participating in a gang-bang rape

huh?



Hey was misinterpreted (literally) to have said that he participated in a gang-rape at the age of nine.  
 
2012-12-19 01:59:34 PM

Babwa Wawa: liam76: monoski: Wonder if this will have more of an impact on his career than when he admitted to participating in a gang-bang rape

huh?


Hey was misinterpreted (literally) to have said that he participated in a gang-rape at the age of nine.  


Gotcha, I thought he had some skeletons I was unaware of.
 
2012-12-19 02:06:42 PM

GameSprocket: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)
 
This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
Really?
 
[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]
 
 
She was 16.

 
I'm not an ageist.
 
 
It was just a observation, not a accusation.
 
2012-12-19 02:16:09 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: At 85% I'll grant the whiny rich people in France a pass for being whiny. That seems more than just a little bit excessive.


Except that the experts say it's impossible for him to be paying that much, even with no deductions.
 
2012-12-19 02:19:15 PM
www.venturefans.org
(snerk)Yeah sure. Move to Florida. I hear they even have their own tag.
 
2012-12-19 02:23:45 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)
 
This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
Really?
 
[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]
 
 
She was 16.


looks better than she does now
 
2012-12-19 02:26:30 PM
Depardouche......That is all......
 
2012-12-19 02:30:06 PM
75% tax on income over 1m euros. Extreme, but maybe they'll get the desired result. Note: the desired result is not coddling the wealthy.
 
2012-12-19 02:45:40 PM
Depardieu fired back, claiming, "I leave after paying 85 percent of my revenue in 2012 don't understand how marginal tax rates work." 
 
2012-12-19 02:46:54 PM
Some warn that there will be wealthy people who relocate to avoid being completely soaked with taxes. They are then accused of being Ayn Rand wannabes who don't understand how the world works.
 
Then some wealthy people relocate to avoid being completely soaked with taxes. Those wealthy people are then derided for doing exactly what folks said couldn't and wouldn't happen.
 
Most won't move. Some will. I doubt the taxes he would have paid will make the difference between solvency and insolvency for the French government. It's up to him to live where he wants. He'll still pay taxes, just someplace else with lower rates.
 
2012-12-19 02:47:20 PM

moothemagiccow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: GameSprocket: mercator_psi: Oui-oui! (2:30 is where he really starts losing it)
 
This is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear about Depardieu.
 
Really?
 
[cdn2.screenjunkies.com image 850x470]
 
 
She was 16.

 
looks better than she does now
 
 
16 year old arse next to to 34 year old arse. Guess which one is getting checked out at the beach?
 
2012-12-19 03:03:21 PM

GoodyearPimp: 75% tax on income over 1m euros. Extreme, but maybe they'll get the desired result. Note: the desired result is not coddling the wealthy.


The desired result is having them leave the country then? It's working ............
 
2012-12-19 03:11:26 PM
"Paying a tax is an act of solidarity, a patriotic act."

No it isn't.
 
2012-12-19 03:48:50 PM
As mush a shate to this Hero tag for a Frenchman

France warms to Gérard Depardieu, the heroic exile
"An online poll conducted by the popular Le Parisien tabloid showed almost 70 per cent supporting the country's wayward son and poster boy for glorious political incorrectness. "

"I was born in 1948," he wrote, "I started working aged 14, as a printer, as a warehouseman, then as an actor, and I've always paid my taxes." Over 45 years, Depardieu said, he had paid 145 million euros in tax, and to this day employs 80 people. Last year he paid taxes amounting to 85 per cent of his income. "I am neither worthy of pity nor admirable, but I shall not be called 'pathetic'," he concluded, saying that he was sending back his French passport. "
 
2012-12-19 03:59:41 PM
Hollande to cut taxes in humiliating volte-face

Company taxes will fall by €20bn a year equal to 1pc of GDP, to be phased in gradually by 2015 under a convoluted system of rebates. ...

Critics call it the most humiliating U-turn in French politics since François Mitterrand abandoned his disastrous experiment of "Socialism in one country" under a D-Mark currency peg in 1983. ...

The French National Assembly was in uproar on Tuesday as Gaulliste deputies derided the volte-face as a confession of misrule for the past six months.
 
2012-12-19 04:07:39 PM

vpb: hinten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world


When I look at that list I notice that the places that are worth living in have tax rates of 50%  or more and/or a VAT and tend to have higher payroll taxes.
 
We do have the same top marginal rate as Iran though.


No Country Leans on Upper-Income Households as Much as U.S.
 
2012-12-19 04:18:20 PM

hasty ambush: No Country Leans on Upper-Income Households as Much as U.S.


Can't think of how that could happen...

Not that I'd expect anything remotely connected to honesty from a group with direct ties to both ALEC and the Kochsuckers.
 
2012-12-19 04:27:39 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: hasty ambush: No Country Leans on Upper-Income Households as Much as U.S.

Can't think of how that could happen...

Not that I'd expect anything remotely connected to honesty from a group with direct ties to both ALEC and the Kochsuckers.


And just for shiats and giggles, according to the Wiki article there are only 6 OECD countries with a worse GINI coefficient than the U.S. before taxes:

Portugal, Mexico, Italy, Israel, Germany, and Chile

AFTER taxes only Turkey, Mexico and Chile are worse.

But, yea. Can't imagine why the rich are so "heavily burdened" by taxes. I mean.... it's like they have all the money or something....

But you keep pushing that platform of "blood from a stone" and see how that works. Or is this one of those things where I'm supposed to buy the argument that I should give a flying fark that some super-rich goober could only afford a dozen Ferraris this year instead of the baker's dozen he wanted because we raided the poor wittle felwahs pockets so that some people he employs could afford life-saving medicine because he cut their medical coverage last year so he could buy a bigger yacht?
 
2012-12-19 04:55:23 PM

hasty ambush: As mush a shate to this Hero tag for a Frenchman

France warms to Gérard Depardieu, the heroic exile
"An online poll conducted by the popular Le Parisien tabloid showed almost 70 per cent supporting the country's wayward son and poster boy for glorious political incorrectness. "

"I was born in 1948," he wrote, "I started working aged 14, as a printer, as a warehouseman, then as an actor, and I've always paid my taxes." Over 45 years, Depardieu said, he had paid 145 million euros in tax, and to this day employs 80 people. Last year he paid taxes amounting to 85 per cent of his income. "I am neither worthy of pity nor admirable, but I shall not be called 'pathetic'," he concluded, saying that he was sending back his French passport. "


That's pathetic.
 
2012-12-19 05:24:53 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: hasty ambush: No Country Leans on Upper-Income Households as Much as U.S.

Can't think of how that could happen...

Not that I'd expect anything remotely connected to honesty from a group with direct ties to both ALEC and the Kochsuckers.


You know one way for us to have better 'income equality' is for the rick folk to just leave.

'Income equality' is as stupid metric. What matters is how well people are doing not how well they are doing relative to some one else.

If your country was such that everyone lived in a mud hut would that be better?
 
2012-12-19 05:35:12 PM
He's also not taking the stairs, I notice. How long until he needs a Rascal to move around, anyway? He's starting to look like the lost twin of Honey BooBoo's mother.
 
2012-12-19 05:36:05 PM

hinten: 85% across all his income or he reached the highest taxation rate with a portion of his income?
 
European elites have been known to do this for many years. Check Monaco, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, etc. for tax exiles. Never heard of Belgium though.


FTFA:

In fact, as in the U.S., those in the top tax brackets don't pay tax at that rate across the board. In France, as in the U.S., the income tax system is progressive which means that all taxpayers pay the same tax rates for the same levels of income. Depardieu would, then, pay 0% on the first € 5963 of income, as would his fellow countrymen. He would pay 5% on income from € 5,963 to € 11,896, as would his countrymen, up to a maximum of 41% for income exceeding € 70,830 ($93,359.28 U.S.).

And that infamous 75% tax on the highest wage earners in France alluded to in the press? It's not yet in force.

Le Monde figures that, for 2012 Depardieu would have had to pay € 787,350 ($1,038,036.55 U.S.), assuming zero deductions. That works out to an average tax rate of 39.4%, less than half of what Depardieu claims. The paper goes on to suggest that, even including other non-income taxes, the tax rate Depardieu claims to have paid is preposterous.
 
2012-12-19 06:22:20 PM
Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.
 
2012-12-19 06:28:54 PM

monoski: Wonder if this will have more of an impact on his career than when he admitted to participating in a gang-bang rape


Or pissing in the aisle of a plane - Link
 
2012-12-19 06:31:22 PM

CujoQuarrel: 'Income equality' is as stupid metric. What matters is how well people are doing not how well they are doing relative to some one else.


Ignoring the fact that's entirely your personal opinion and has no real bearing on anything, it's objectively not true on at least one level.

Then there's also the fact that when you're bringing up "how well people are doing" (whatever you imagine that to mean) being the important metric you might want to rethink your line of argumentation when you're doing it in a discussion that's turned toward a country with more uninsured children (7.6 million) than the 6.1 million people worth at least one million dollars who control nearly 40% of all the wealth.

CujoQuarrel: If your country was such that everyone lived in a mud hut would that be better?


What does that have to do with anything either myself of hasty ambush said? In a country of mud huts I'd count myself a wealthy man if I had a pile of bricks, what's your point?

Stop speaking in stupid hypotheticals and say what your friggin' mean. See how I posted numbers and facts and shiat to support my opinion? You should try doing the same so it sounds like you've actually thought about the things you're saying.
 
2012-12-19 06:44:41 PM

Mikey1969: He's also not taking the stairs, I notice. How long until he needs a Rascal to move around, anyway? He's starting to look like the lost twin of Honey BooBoo's mother.


He's turning into Marlon Brando.

and he's barely over the border in Belgium--not even a mile. In some little village where a lot of other residents are also escaping French taxes
 
2012-12-19 06:52:22 PM

Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.


I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.
 
2012-12-19 07:38:53 PM

StoPPeRmobile: "Paying a tax is an act of solidarity, a patriotic act."

No it isn't.


Agreed.

Patriotism is a moral position, which implies choice. No action is a question of morality if the "choices" are compliance or sanctioned punishment. There is no such thing as a "moral duty" - either it's a choice, or a mandate; can't be both.
 
2012-12-19 07:45:40 PM

hasty ambush: Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.

I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.


Well, it's not. Arithmetic doesn't really care where you would draw the line.

So, out of curiosity, since the only other realistic option to revenue involves a series of massive cuts to either Medicare/Medicaid or the military, or a combination of serious cuts to both, which do you prefer to underfund? The military, or the elderly and disabled?
 
2012-12-19 07:53:23 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: CujoQuarrel: 'Income equality' is as stupid metric. What matters is how well people are doing not how well they are doing relative to some one else.

Ignoring the fact that's entirely your personal opinion and has no real bearing on anything, it's objectively not true on at least one level.

Then there's also the fact that when you're bringing up "how well people are doing" (whatever you imagine that to mean) being the important metric you might want to rethink your line of argumentation when you're doing it in a discussion that's turned toward a country with more uninsured children (7.6 million) than the 6.1 million people worth at least one million dollars who control nearly 40% of all the wealth.

CujoQuarrel: If your country was such that everyone lived in a mud hut would that be better?

What does that have to do with anything either myself of hasty ambush said? In a country of mud huts I'd count myself a wealthy man if I had a pile of bricks, what's your point?

Stop speaking in stupid hypotheticals and say what your friggin' mean. See how I posted numbers and facts and shiat to support my opinion? You should try doing the same so it sounds like you've actually thought about the things you're saying.


Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?
 
2012-12-19 08:55:32 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?


No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!
 
2012-12-19 09:48:39 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: hasty ambush: Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.

I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.

Well, it's not. Arithmetic doesn't really care where you would draw the line.

So, out of curiosity, since the only other realistic option to revenue involves a series of massive cuts to either Medicare/Medicaid or the military, or a combination of serious cuts to both, which do you prefer to underfund? The military, or the elderly and disabled?


All of them.

Means test Social Security (and partially privatize like Sweden did) and MEDICARE.

Combined means tested Welfare spending (Food stamps, MEDICAID, TANF etc))will top $ 1 trillion 2012 Of that only about 30% reaches the intended recipients. 70% goes toward adminstration/regulation and other "overhead" costs. You could cut Means tested welfare spending by an easy 35% by cutting the overhead and not touch benefit payouts.

Defense We have more Flag officers (Generals and Admirals) now than we had during the cold war. The Navy has one Admiral per ship. We could easily cut that number by 2/3rds. Close all stateside DOD run dependent schools. Bring home all US dependents from overseas and put non-combat military assingments on a 6 month rotation like the Marine Corps used to (or still does) with RIfle Battalions to Okinawa. Don't allow anyone to enlist with dependents and don't allow any military pesonnel to marry under the pay grade of E-4 and with less than 4 years military service. You'd be surprise how dependent care eats up a large chunk of the DOD budget.

Cancel the Gerald R Ford class of carrier. Replace as needed older Nimtiz carriers with a newer Nimitz class on a one for one basis or better build a new cheaper 65,00 ton class which well still be better than anybody else could launch. Submarines: Fewer nuclear powered and acquire some Diesel/AIP ones Cheaper and better suited to littoral ops than nukes.-we need a mix. Cancel the V-22 and develope a cheaper Pavelow CH-53K as an alternative.
Cancel the USS America class; a stupid design that comes from letting aviation dominate the Marine Corps. Instead build moreof the cheaper Wasp class LHDs. The America is not an amphib assualt ship but a light carrier for the Navy.
We could get back up to a 300 plus ship Navy and still cut the overall DOD budget.

Deactivated all our land based ICBMs. Our nuclear deterence will be SSBNs and Bombers. More than adequate-flexible and survivable .

Many say we should cancel the F-35 but we are stuck with it. It replaces too many aircraft that have reached or are reaching the end of their service life and for some they are no longer in production like the Harrier. Absent the costly process of reopening some prodution lines , even if possible, it is and should be our last manned fighter.

Education is another area. Combined government education spending is almost $1 trillion; for what? Six figured salary administrators, $578 million dollar high school campuses in LA and ten of millions of dollars of fraud in Detroit?
How is that countries that spend much less per student than we do get better results?

There are countless other cost saving measures from civil service an military benefits/compensation to the many examples we see of government waste and fraud almost daily.
 
2012-12-19 10:30:08 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?

No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!


Vegan Meat Popsicle: StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?

No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!


Do you even know what a scholarly source is?

Oh and...
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Nice excuse too.
 
2012-12-19 10:53:06 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Do you even know what a scholarly source is?


No, no, no. You putting the word study in quotes was perfectly fine. You totally wrecked my argument with that. No need to ask for something more....

Social Comparison Affects Reward-Related Brain Activity in the Human Ventral Striatum. K. Fliessbach, B. Weber, P. Trautner, T. Dohmen, U. Sunde, C. E. Elger, A. Falk. Science, 23.11.2007


Are you done embarrassing yourself yet? It's getting kind of late and this constant making a mockery of you is getting a little boring....
/ but, no, you totally preempted that by copying and pasting something I made completely public for everyone to see anyway
// you're so smrt
 
2012-12-20 05:13:49 AM

He's emigrating post-haste:

i.dailymail.co.uk
Gerard moments before
being fired out of
a cannon into Switzerland.

remember Tony Stark's head-first landing in the desert?
 
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