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2012-12-19 06:31:22 PM

CujoQuarrel: 'Income equality' is as stupid metric. What matters is how well people are doing not how well they are doing relative to some one else.


Ignoring the fact that's entirely your personal opinion and has no real bearing on anything, it's objectively not true on at least one level.

Then there's also the fact that when you're bringing up "how well people are doing" (whatever you imagine that to mean) being the important metric you might want to rethink your line of argumentation when you're doing it in a discussion that's turned toward a country with more uninsured children (7.6 million) than the 6.1 million people worth at least one million dollars who control nearly 40% of all the wealth.

CujoQuarrel: If your country was such that everyone lived in a mud hut would that be better?


What does that have to do with anything either myself of hasty ambush said? In a country of mud huts I'd count myself a wealthy man if I had a pile of bricks, what's your point?

Stop speaking in stupid hypotheticals and say what your friggin' mean. See how I posted numbers and facts and shiat to support my opinion? You should try doing the same so it sounds like you've actually thought about the things you're saying.
 
2012-12-19 06:44:41 PM

Mikey1969: He's also not taking the stairs, I notice. How long until he needs a Rascal to move around, anyway? He's starting to look like the lost twin of Honey BooBoo's mother.


He's turning into Marlon Brando.

and he's barely over the border in Belgium--not even a mile. In some little village where a lot of other residents are also escaping French taxes
 
2012-12-19 06:52:22 PM

Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.


I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.
 
2012-12-19 07:38:53 PM

StoPPeRmobile: "Paying a tax is an act of solidarity, a patriotic act."

No it isn't.


Agreed.

Patriotism is a moral position, which implies choice. No action is a question of morality if the "choices" are compliance or sanctioned punishment. There is no such thing as a "moral duty" - either it's a choice, or a mandate; can't be both.
 
2012-12-19 07:45:40 PM

hasty ambush: Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.

I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.


Well, it's not. Arithmetic doesn't really care where you would draw the line.

So, out of curiosity, since the only other realistic option to revenue involves a series of massive cuts to either Medicare/Medicaid or the military, or a combination of serious cuts to both, which do you prefer to underfund? The military, or the elderly and disabled?
 
2012-12-19 07:53:23 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: CujoQuarrel: 'Income equality' is as stupid metric. What matters is how well people are doing not how well they are doing relative to some one else.

Ignoring the fact that's entirely your personal opinion and has no real bearing on anything, it's objectively not true on at least one level.

Then there's also the fact that when you're bringing up "how well people are doing" (whatever you imagine that to mean) being the important metric you might want to rethink your line of argumentation when you're doing it in a discussion that's turned toward a country with more uninsured children (7.6 million) than the 6.1 million people worth at least one million dollars who control nearly 40% of all the wealth.

CujoQuarrel: If your country was such that everyone lived in a mud hut would that be better?

What does that have to do with anything either myself of hasty ambush said? In a country of mud huts I'd count myself a wealthy man if I had a pile of bricks, what's your point?

Stop speaking in stupid hypotheticals and say what your friggin' mean. See how I posted numbers and facts and shiat to support my opinion? You should try doing the same so it sounds like you've actually thought about the things you're saying.


Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?
 
2012-12-19 08:55:32 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?


No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!
 
2012-12-19 09:48:39 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: hasty ambush: Geotpf: Let me be a right winger here and state that a 75% marginal tax rate is too high.

39.6%, however, is fine.

I would draw the line at 30% no matter how much somebody earns. I have a hard time rationalizing government entitlement to even that much of an individuals income no matter how much they make. In a free society individuals or a class of people should not be viewed as revenue cows to be milked in attempts to pander to others.

All levels of US government combined take in about $5 Trillion dollars yet some are arguing that it is not enough.

Well, it's not. Arithmetic doesn't really care where you would draw the line.

So, out of curiosity, since the only other realistic option to revenue involves a series of massive cuts to either Medicare/Medicaid or the military, or a combination of serious cuts to both, which do you prefer to underfund? The military, or the elderly and disabled?


All of them.

Means test Social Security (and partially privatize like Sweden did) and MEDICARE.

Combined means tested Welfare spending (Food stamps, MEDICAID, TANF etc))will top $ 1 trillion 2012 Of that only about 30% reaches the intended recipients. 70% goes toward adminstration/regulation and other "overhead" costs. You could cut Means tested welfare spending by an easy 35% by cutting the overhead and not touch benefit payouts.

Defense We have more Flag officers (Generals and Admirals) now than we had during the cold war. The Navy has one Admiral per ship. We could easily cut that number by 2/3rds. Close all stateside DOD run dependent schools. Bring home all US dependents from overseas and put non-combat military assingments on a 6 month rotation like the Marine Corps used to (or still does) with RIfle Battalions to Okinawa. Don't allow anyone to enlist with dependents and don't allow any military pesonnel to marry under the pay grade of E-4 and with less than 4 years military service. You'd be surprise how dependent care eats up a large chunk of the DOD budget.

Cancel the Gerald R Ford class of carrier. Replace as needed older Nimtiz carriers with a newer Nimitz class on a one for one basis or better build a new cheaper 65,00 ton class which well still be better than anybody else could launch. Submarines: Fewer nuclear powered and acquire some Diesel/AIP ones Cheaper and better suited to littoral ops than nukes.-we need a mix. Cancel the V-22 and develope a cheaper Pavelow CH-53K as an alternative.
Cancel the USS America class; a stupid design that comes from letting aviation dominate the Marine Corps. Instead build moreof the cheaper Wasp class LHDs. The America is not an amphib assualt ship but a light carrier for the Navy.
We could get back up to a 300 plus ship Navy and still cut the overall DOD budget.

Deactivated all our land based ICBMs. Our nuclear deterence will be SSBNs and Bombers. More than adequate-flexible and survivable .

Many say we should cancel the F-35 but we are stuck with it. It replaces too many aircraft that have reached or are reaching the end of their service life and for some they are no longer in production like the Harrier. Absent the costly process of reopening some prodution lines , even if possible, it is and should be our last manned fighter.

Education is another area. Combined government education spending is almost $1 trillion; for what? Six figured salary administrators, $578 million dollar high school campuses in LA and ten of millions of dollars of fraud in Detroit?
How is that countries that spend much less per student than we do get better results?

There are countless other cost saving measures from civil service an military benefits/compensation to the many examples we see of government waste and fraud almost daily.
 
2012-12-19 10:30:08 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?

No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!


Vegan Meat Popsicle: StoPPeRmobile: Um, your source is CNBC referencing a "study" done by a bank?

No. My source is an article written by a CNBC staffer on a widely-reported study done by a finance management company.

But you put the word study in quotes like it's not a real thing, so that sure put me in my place. It sure was stupid of me to think that a financial services corporation managing and administering nearly $5,000,000,000,000 of assets for over 20 million people might be capable of putting together a study about how people view the concept of wealth.

Thank god you came along and put quotes around 'study' so I could learn my lesson about picking proper sources. From now on I'll be sure to remember you and whether or not I could arbitrarily add quotes to something before I choose to believe anything. Sure you don't know what Fidelity does and it's unclear if you even understand the concept of a bank... but quotes!


Do you even know what a scholarly source is?

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Nice excuse too.
 
2012-12-19 10:53:06 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Do you even know what a scholarly source is?


No, no, no. You putting the word study in quotes was perfectly fine. You totally wrecked my argument with that. No need to ask for something more....

Social Comparison Affects Reward-Related Brain Activity in the Human Ventral Striatum. K. Fliessbach, B. Weber, P. Trautner, T. Dohmen, U. Sunde, C. E. Elger, A. Falk. Science, 23.11.2007


Are you done embarrassing yourself yet? It's getting kind of late and this constant making a mockery of you is getting a little boring....
/ but, no, you totally preempted that by copying and pasting something I made completely public for everyone to see anyway
// you're so smrt
 
2012-12-20 05:13:49 AM

He's emigrating post-haste:

i.dailymail.co.uk
Gerard moments before
being fired out of
a cannon into Switzerland.

remember Tony Stark's head-first landing in the desert?
 
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