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(Scientific American)   Intensive exercise may cure Type 2 diabetes. That's it, no more excuses, get your fat ass off the couch   (blogs.scientificamerican.com) divider line 77
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2012-12-19 02:19:39 PM
Disease caused by being a fat pos goes away if you start being just a regular pos. News at 11.
 
2012-12-19 02:47:09 PM

gingerjet: Boudica's War Tampon: No shiat. Diet, exercise, mental health all seem to reduce symptoms. It's called leading a healthy lifestyle.

YMMV.

At age 40 my brother had a heart attack.  At age 40 I biked across Iowa.  At age 44 my brother had a second heart attack.  I'm not to age 44 yet - but my plan is to do a triathlon.  One of us will reach the age of 50.  Will it be the fat fark who sits on the couch all day who smokes and now has three stents in his chest?
 
/no



RAGBRAI sounds a lot healthier that it is.  I ate so many hotdogs, BBQ sandwhiches, and the like.  Not too mention the beer.
 
/2003 and 2004
//That was a hell of a time
 
2012-12-19 02:50:29 PM
Food fight thread!
 
Eat to Live
 
/lots of research
//also not on Quackwatch
 
2012-12-19 02:57:54 PM

WinoRhino: gingerjet: At age 40 my brother had a heart attack.  At age 40 I biked across Iowa.  At age 44 my brother had a second heart attack.  I'm not to age 44 yet - but my plan is to do a triathlon.  One of us will reach the age of 50.  Will it be the fat fark who sits on the couch all day who smokes and now has three stents in his chest?

This past summer, my wife was running an 18 mile race. I was on bike meeting her at different checkpoints and carrying water, "Gu", etc. I biked ahead at one point and came across a volunteer stationed on the street corner who was there to tell runners which way to go. He was on the ground and had collapsed for some reason. I got off the bike and started CPR. Someone called 911. A cop finally arrived and we used an AED to shock him while waiting for the ambulance. While the paramedics continued to work on him at the scene his wife, a volunteer from another street corner nearby, was telling me how he had just run 20 miles the day before. He was 64. He didn't make it.

While you improve your overall health by being active and fit, you seriously never know.


Your wife is a serious runner and doesn't have a belt to carry her own gels? Also, were there no water stations along the course? In a summer race?
 
2012-12-19 03:11:08 PM
What the hell is wrong with you people?

www.geekation.com
 
2012-12-19 04:08:35 PM
Saw an interview with a Doctor about Type 1 vs Type 2. His statement was along the lines of:

"All my Type 1 patients are fastidious about their diet and exercise. If any of my Type 2 patients took the same level of care most of them wouldn't have diabetes anymore.
 
2012-12-19 04:42:28 PM

Nogale: Your wife is a serious runner and doesn't have a belt to carry her own gels? Also, were there no water stations along the course? In a summer race?


Really? That's your comment?
I'll let you think a bit on it and get back to me later if you want.
 
2012-12-19 04:57:57 PM

WinoRhino: Nogale: Your wife is a serious runner and doesn't have a belt to carry her own gels? Also, were there no water stations along the course? In a summer race?

Really? That's your comment?
I'll let you think a bit on it and get back to me later if you want.


It's not like someone could possibly enjoy supporting their spouse. Clearly she nagged you into following her around on a pink girl's bike with a flowered basket and little bell just to emasculate you.
 
2012-12-19 05:00:32 PM

Caeldan: And correct me if I'm wrong about Bernstein but he's the extreme low carb advocate? Like no such thing as a good carb type (vs say enjoy your sweet potatoes and beets)

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Bernstein is a 'non-fat people' diabetic himself, and designed his regimen for his type-1 needs. To avoid large excusions (high or low). So his diet does reduce carb input more severely than some other diets. He wanted 'small numbers' because small numbers lead to smaller errors when calculating doses.

But the diet helps type-2 too.

I think he had his A1C down to 4.7 last time I saw it mentioned
 
2012-12-19 05:08:25 PM

SDRR: gingerjet: Boudica's War Tampon: No shiat. Diet, exercise, mental health all seem to reduce symptoms. It's called leading a healthy lifestyle.

YMMV.

At age 40 my brother had a heart attack.  At age 40 I biked across Iowa.  At age 44 my brother had a second heart attack.  I'm not to age 44 yet - but my plan is to do a triathlon.  One of us will reach the age of 50.  Will it be the fat fark who sits on the couch all day who smokes and now has three stents in his chest?
 
/no

Don't get hit by a bus!


assets.dstatic.org
 
2012-12-19 05:39:31 PM
When I exercise, my blood sugar normalizes. I also fit better in my pants and have toner body parts.

That's all I need to worry about. Weight? Who cares. Looks? Who cares. Am I eating right and exercising regularly? Yup? Then who cares.

Diets cause stress and stress causes weight loss. Enjoy your life and be happy with who you are.
 
2012-12-19 05:45:09 PM
Why the fark hasn't anyone mentioned this before????
 
2012-12-19 06:01:30 PM

dready zim: I remember an article about how running long distances is bad for your heart. I think it said a marathon should be a once or twice a lifetime thing instead of once or twice a month to avoid negative health effects. 3 times a week for an hour is enough, the rest is just masochism in my opinion.


To clarify, it's not the distance; it's the overall exertion.  Marathon runners don't just run 26 miles often; many are competitive, meaning they're in such a hurry to finish them.  That is some serious stress on the heart.
 
The human body is in fact one of the best organisms in nature at overland running, but we're adapted for cruising.  It's safer to jog lightly for 40 miles at 4-6mph than average 10+mph over 26 miles like a serious marathon runner.
 
2012-12-19 06:04:29 PM

WhippingBoy: Why the fark hasn't anyone mentioned this before????


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-19 06:17:31 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Saw an interview with a Doctor about Type 1 vs Type 2. His statement was along the lines of:

"All my Type 1 patients are fastidious about their diet and exercise. If any of my Type 2 patients took the same level of care most of them wouldn't have diabetes anymore.


Sure, but most, if not all, of his Type 1's would be dead if they didn't live that strictly. It's not necessarily a fair comparison. Type 2's more closely resemble the lifestyle habits of the general population by a longshot.

I guess what I'm saying is take diabetes out of the equation and you're left with most of the patients that eat right and exercise being healthier than the patients that do not.
 
2012-12-19 06:19:06 PM
Hmm, that came out somewhat fragmented. My sugar must be low.
 
2012-12-19 10:01:53 PM
Yes, exercise and dieting is hard. People need motivation to work out and diet. This story is not new or interesting.
 
2012-12-19 10:24:34 PM
I've forced my Type 2 diabetes into remission.

I'd been somewhat sedentary for about 10 years, got up to 182lbs (5'-9") and went for a blood test for life insurance and found my blood sugar was triple the usual maximum. I lost 20 lbs, exercise 4 times a week, leave the car in the driveway and walk if it's less than 15 minutes, bike in the summer- and watch what I eat. Now my blood sugar is normal. Even the occasional pig-out on biryani and naan (love Indian food) doesn't send my blood sugar above normal. Haven't had to take meds and I'll try to avoid them for as long as possible.
 
2012-12-19 10:27:25 PM

Boudica's War Tampon: No shiat. Diet, exercise, mental health all seem to reduce symptoms. It's called leading a healthy lifestyle.

YMMV.


i see what needed to be said has been covered
 
2012-12-19 11:41:53 PM
Type II diabetes is NOT a disease, it is a symptom. the disease is a crappy lifestyle.

I know from personal experience that it simply goes away if you stop eating like shiat and work out.

It is far more profitable for the health care industry to treat the symptom than admit that it isnt a disease.
 
2012-12-19 11:44:45 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Saw an interview with a Doctor about Type 1 vs Type 2. His statement was along the lines of:

"All my Type 1 patients are fastidious about their diet and exercise. If any of my Type 2 patients took the same level of care most of them wouldn't have diabetes anymore.


If he knows what the problem is, I wonder why he doesent treat them. oh yeah. money.
 
2012-12-20 12:20:17 AM

loonatic112358: Boudica's War Tampon: No shiat. Diet, exercise, mental health all seem to reduce symptoms. It's called leading a healthy lifestyle.

YMMV.

i see what needed to be said has been covered


I think people forget about the mental health aspect of a healthy lifestyle. The interesting thing is your mental outlook can be your best or worst enemy. It can help keep you physically well or fark with your heart, blood sugar, lots of physical aspects of you.
 
2012-12-20 12:32:22 AM
I think I'll wait for someone more motivated than me to make a cure that doesn't involve so much effort on my part.
 
2012-12-20 04:20:30 AM
Lol I'm going to end up with cancer,Alzheimer or genetic heart disease anyways.
 
2012-12-20 09:34:37 AM

I sound fat: Type II diabetes is NOT a disease, it is a symptom. the disease is a crappy lifestyle.

I know from personal experience that it simply goes away if you stop eating like shiat and work out.

It is far more profitable for the health care industry to treat the symptom than admit that it isnt a disease.


For the vast majority of people with it, yes. But not everyone
 
2012-12-20 12:38:06 PM
I sound fat: If he knows what the problem is, I wonder why he doesent treat them. oh yeah. money.

Fat people don't listen.

There are people that I went to high school with, who now weigh 100lbs more than I do.

I know they got the same "eat right, exercise, etc" drummed into them at school that I did.

I feel bad about being 10 pounds overweight (15 years at a desk job), but these folks, they just don't give a damn.
 
2012-12-22 10:44:25 AM

Boudica's War Tampon: No shiat. Diet, exercise, mental health all seem to reduce symptoms. It's called leading a healthy lifestyle.


The scary part is how many people, sick and healthy alike, would consider these sorts of interventions more drastic than surgery.
 
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