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2012-12-19 09:30:48 AM
12 votes:
This wouldn't have happened with a bolt-action handgun.
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-12-19 09:58:54 AM
4 votes:
At least it wasn't a full automatic assault handgun like an AK-Glock. That would have been REALLY bad
2012-12-19 11:26:08 AM
3 votes:

zabadu: You can't fix stupid.


You can with a gun.
2012-12-19 01:12:08 PM
2 votes:
I think we need to use "semiautomatic" for other issues. When a teacher is banging her students, can we say she had a semiautomatic vagina?
2012-12-19 11:22:56 AM
2 votes:

Generation_D: The NRA needs to be closed down.  They've contributed to a culture of armed violence and blocked reasonable attempts to require registration and require gun safety and training.
 
Most of my gun owning friends agree.  None are NRA members, couldn't handle the derp.
 
I think responsible and well trained gun ownership is possible, but the NRA has made sure that instead we have an effing shooting gallery made up of untrained armed asswits.  It needs to stop. 
 
Shut the effing NRA down, then have a reasonable discussion on what can and cannot be done to fix the mess the NRA significantly helped to create.


I think there should be required training and registration before you can exercise your Right to free speech. Otherwise, we end up with an effing shooting gallery of untrained asswits. It needs to stop.
2012-12-19 11:20:13 AM
2 votes:
Oh no, not SEMI AUTOMATIC!!!

Subby are you sure it wasn't an AK-47 or a rocket launcher?
2012-12-20 03:19:33 AM
1 votes:
Why do these articles and the news always say SEMI-AUTOMATIC handguns? Just about all these guns now a days are semi-automatic.

An adjective for a handgun should only be used if someone was attacked with a black powder handgun. That would be adjective worthy.
2012-12-19 05:39:49 PM
1 votes:

I drunk what: WhippingBoy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I understand people wanting to place the blame on an inanimate object. For most of us, it's hard to grasp the idea that a human can be capable of killing children. But at the end of the day, it was a very sick and twisted person that killed all those children.

If the only thing available to him was, say, a spoon, do you think he would have been able to kill as many people?

we should ban spoons

then everyone will be safe


Available to him is not the same as is legal to own. Guns are available whether they are legal or not.
2012-12-19 05:38:16 PM
1 votes:

inner ted: MythDragon: inner ted: cause you are making my case - certain aspects of firearms are only for war fighting / hunting people & don't have a reason among the general public.

And guess what...we don't have them. It takes some SERIOUS paperwork/background check/expenses to own a M-16 or an AK-74.
Now a single fire only weapon that LOOKS like a M-16 or AK varient is NOT the same thing as what it looks like. You can slap a Ferrari body kit on a Corolla, and while it now looks dangerous, it doesn't go any faster.

i realize this
but the point remains the same: certain aspects of firearms are reserved only for military / cops

currently it is limited as you point out

i suggest including high capacity mags to this

or, in car terms: you can take a corolla and add nitrous & indeed it goes faster


False analogy. The correct analogy is that you can put a bigger gas tank on a Corolla so it can drive farther.

And expanded mag doesn't make a gun more powerful. If I had a 2000 bullet mag for a 0.22, it won't shoot through steel plates.
2012-12-19 02:52:06 PM
1 votes:

Bullseyed: I also fail to see why killing kindergartners is so heinous but murdering babies is just fine.



Haha, that's awesome.
2012-12-19 02:36:33 PM
1 votes:

cryinoutloud: But I also notice that people like you have already come up with "anti-gun" to describe people who'd like some better rules for how and who owns guns


The amusing part is that all the things the anti-gun people suggest regarding gun ownership are already in place. People who have committed crimes or are crazy are not allowed to buy, own, carry or possess guns.

The shooter in this case owned zero guns. He killed a gun owner and took her guns.

The real issue is that the kid's parents refused to have their kid declared crazy, despite knowing he was crazy. The secondary issue is that we don't execute crazy people like we should.
2012-12-19 02:19:59 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Woo, one.  Find 5 worldwide in the last 10 years.  Mother Jones detailed 62 mass shootings in the US in just the last 30 years and half of those were in the last 10.


China actually had 3 school attacks in 3 days in April. The best one was a guy with a hammer who bashed kids heads in and then lit himself on fire with a gas can.


Worth noting that most of those mass shootings happened on Obama's watch, so there is exactly as much evidence that Obama is responsible as video games, tv, music and movies.

But if you look at the last 30 years, what you will find is that as soon as we started locking away crazy people in asylums, we suddenly saw crime increase.
2012-12-19 02:16:30 PM
1 votes:

megarian: In rare cases, one should be able to deny someone a gun base on looks alone. If this chick walked into your store and wanted a gun, wouldn't you take one look at her and think, "mmmno...no no... Just no. "

/kidding
//kind of


In all cases, anyone should be allowed to deny sale of anything to anyone.

/Yes, even the "no blacks allowed" people.
2012-12-19 02:14:19 PM
1 votes:

you have pee hands: vegasj: Not really. Why do you wish to look past the fact they are all medicated? Perhaps wrongly medicated even?


I may have misinterpreted your point.  If so, sorry.  A lot of people are wringing their hands and blaming spree shootings on the state of US mental health medical care or the fact that crazy people are getting access to guns, when that had nothing to do with this case at all.  The kid was clearly crazy but he came from a family well off enough to afford mental health care and he didn't buy the guns so a psychological background check for weapons purchase wouldn't have mattered either.


Agree. The left is trying to argue that there isn't enough medical accessibility, but the fact is that there is an overflowing amount available, but people ignore it or refuse to use it.
2012-12-19 02:08:11 PM
1 votes:

you have pee hands: vegasj: If SSRI meds = anti-psychotic meds... then

Excellent point and I've been trying to get this info out there...
 
It's only an excellent point in the cases where the guns weren't stolen.


Hmm?

SSRI meds cause people to do violent things. That is a fact.

Are you trying to go with "people on SSRI meds shouldn't be allowed to own guns" because I'm pretty sure the NRA people would agree with that.
2012-12-19 01:07:48 PM
1 votes:

hinten: Watch all the gun nuts hone in on "semi-automatic" vs actually engaging in a constructive discussion and solution. And, yes, this situation does require a solution.


Watch all the liar liberals make shiat up to prevent a rational discussion from occurring, replacing it instead with a hysterical emotional one.

These people have HEAT SEEKING AUTOMATIC GUNS they just hold them and it aims at the heads of babies and kills them!!!!


I also fail to see why killing kindergartners is so heinous but murdering babies is just fine.
2012-12-19 01:04:53 PM
1 votes:

Carn: I had a convo with a pro-gun co-worker yesterday who I respect a lot. He tends to be very libertarian so I knew where he'd stand. The long and short of it is, he basically thinks that someone going on a stabbing spree with a knife is just as bad and has the same outcome as mass shootings. I submit that this is not a rational conclusion.


Events in the UK and China have proven your coworker is correct and you are wrong.

Just because you choose to ignore facts and reality does not make the reality you constructed in your mind real.
2012-12-19 12:59:06 PM
1 votes:

Girion47: fark bullies, they're to blame for school shootings.

Want to end the violence?

Teach your little shiats that picking on kids in school is dangerous to their lives, that every time they shove them into a locker, laugh at them, make fun of their clothing, or call them poor, they're getting one step closer to that kid snapping.


I learned that in high school. The freshmen were always picked on on the bus. I sat the furthest back of the freshmen usually and therefore got the most abuse. I tried the whole ignore them and it will go away thing and it didn't really work. One day I just turned around quietly and calmly and said "You know what they say about those kids who shot up Columbine, they were quiet and picked on until they decided not to take it anymore."

Never got picked on again really.
2012-12-19 12:48:42 PM
1 votes:

Pud: At least it wasn't a full automatic assault handgun like an AK-Glock. That would have been REALLY bad


Really not helping. Liberals actually believe that stuff like that exists.
2012-12-19 12:46:38 PM
1 votes:

dustygrimp: Flakeloaf: "Hispanic, Christian cisgendered woman threatens white atheist student bullies with semi-automatic assault glock and pit-bull. Sexting."

Am I doing this right?

FTFY


I bow to your superior hotbutton-mashing.
2012-12-19 12:45:47 PM
1 votes:

inner ted: GAT_00: Carn: I had a convo with a pro-gun co-worker yesterday who I respect a lot. He tends to be very libertarian so I knew where he'd stand. The long and short of it is, he basically thinks that someone going on a stabbing spree with a knife is just as bad and has the same outcome as mass shootings. I submit that this is not a rational conclusion.

I don't understand people like that.  There are not mass knifings, and the ability to commit mass murder isn't even remotely the same.  It's like saying a single apple and an apple tree are the same thing.

surely this late in the thread, someone will have pointed out that little episode in china that happened on the same day

but, you know, it's in china

which isn't the u.s. or israel

so it doesn't count

right?

/do agree that high capacity semi auto rifles being widely available to the public doesn't help


High Capacity = ?
Semi-auto=majority of firearms
Rifle=hard to conceal if commission of crime is your goal.
2012-12-19 12:28:24 PM
1 votes:

vegasj: Not really. Why do you wish to look past the fact they are all medicated? Perhaps wrongly medicated even?



I may have misinterpreted your point.  If so, sorry.  A lot of people are wringing their hands and blaming spree shootings on the state of US mental health medical care or the fact that crazy people are getting access to guns, when that had nothing to do with this case at all.  The kid was clearly crazy but he came from a family well off enough to afford mental health care and he didn't buy the guns so a psychological background check for weapons purchase wouldn't have mattered either.
2012-12-19 12:27:11 PM
1 votes:
"semi-automatic"
 
DRINK!
2012-12-19 12:24:36 PM
1 votes:

CruJones: Wow, a semi-automatic? Those should be banned! All guns should hold one bullet max.

/even shotguns are semi-auto often


Fail in Human Form: Carn: Fail in Human Form: Carn: This text is now purple: Carn: This text is now purple: Carn: Me either. Well, there are mass knifings, but as has been mentioned a lot, the outcome such as at the one in China last Friday, is much different. 22 Wounded vs 27 dead.

China had three separate school incidents in 2010 alone of knife attacks resulting in multiple fatalities.

How many, exactly?

Three.

Cute. How many deaths? How about this, you pick your four best school stabbings in the last 13 years and we'll compare that with the four US school shootings with the most victims and compare shall we?

VA Tech 2007 - 32 dead, 17 injured
Newtown 2012 - 27 dead (and his mother)
Columbine 1999 - 13 dead, 21 injured
Red Lake 2004 - 7 dead, 5 injured (also killed 2 others before the school)

Total: 79 dead, 43 injured. An average of 20 dead and 10 injured per incident over four shootings.

It's obviously not the body count that bothers you. Many more people die of a multitude of preventable things every year, so what is it about firearms that pushes your panic button?

Nice strawman. It should actually be obvious that the body count IS what bothers me. Oh and maybe the fact that we're talking about little kids. Who says I'm not in favor of preventing whatever other preventable deaths you are imagining?

Then why single out firearms ownership, a constitutionally protected right? How about we ban all fast food and you fight as hard for that as you're fighting against guns rights? It would save far many more lives every year.


Ive said it before and Ill say it again, its not about lives for these people, its about guns and thats all. They just want guns gone. They have this ingrained fear of the things. These are the same people who get panicked if they see a gun just sitting on a table. Just the presence of the inanimate object is enough to scare them, like its some predator thats going to jump up and attack without warning.

They are just as bad, maybe even worse, that the super pro-gun wackos. Equal amounts of derp, opposite ends of the spectrum. Both ends are nothing more than activists with agendas. They dont want fair, they just want their way.
2012-12-19 11:20:46 AM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: This wouldn't have happened with a bolt-action handgun.


If you just say "handgun", then it doesn't scare your readers enough and doesn't generate the desired level of hysterical panic and outrage.
2012-12-19 11:19:52 AM
1 votes:
Dear America,

Once everyone in your country has killed each other, can I have Disneyland?

Sincerely,

WhippingBoy
2012-12-19 11:17:12 AM
1 votes:
Madafakin WILD PIGS ERRYWHERE!!!!!111!!!!1
2012-12-19 11:16:33 AM
1 votes:
Bet they won't bully her daughter again.
2012-12-19 11:15:56 AM
1 votes:
This never would have happened if her daughter and those bullies were allowed to carry guns.
2012-12-19 10:50:08 AM
1 votes:
The NRA needs to be closed down.  They've contributed to a culture of armed violence and blocked reasonable attempts to require registration and require gun safety and training.
 
Most of my gun owning friends agree.  None are NRA members, couldn't handle the derp.
 
I think responsible and well trained gun ownership is possible, but the NRA has made sure that instead we have an effing shooting gallery made up of untrained armed asswits.  It needs to stop. 
 
Shut the effing NRA down, then have a reasonable discussion on what can and cannot be done to fix the mess the NRA significantly helped to create.
2012-12-19 09:52:52 AM
1 votes:
aren't all handguns pretty much semiautomatic? unless you have a single-action revolver, i guess. 
 
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