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(WXYZ Detroit)   Utah student takes NRA's advice and everyone's in a tizzy   ( ) divider line
    More: Dumbass, NRA, Utah, Newtown, KSL-TV, Granite School District, students  
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18226 clicks; posted to Main » on 18 Dec 2012 at 5:19 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-12-19 01:07:14 PM  

Trapper439: Mock26: Guns are not the problem here. I would like to point out that the per capita rate of gun ownership in America is 88.8 per 100 people. In Switzerland it is 45.7 and in Finland it is 32. The per capita firearm homicide rate is 2.9, 0.52, and 0.26 per 100,000 people, respectively. 1.9x as many guns as Switzerland, yet 5.6x as many firearm homicides. 2.8x as many guns as Finland, yet 11x as many firearm deaths. There is also a similar disproportion for other countries, such as Sweden(31.6/0.19), Norway(31.3/0.04), France(31.2/0.22), Germany(30.3/0.06), and Canada(30.9/0.76). If guns were the problem then how come there are not more firearm homicides for those countries? Surely if this was all because of the number of guns then all those other countries would have a per capita rate much closer to our own.

Clearly guns are not the problem. The problems, whatever they are, go much, much deeper than what amounts to nothing more than the tool of choice.

So basically what you're saying is that availability of guns isn't the problem, Americans are just murderous assholes.

Funny thing is, back when you American idiots were electing George W. Bush for a second time the rest of the Western world was telling you guys this exact thing and you assholes didn't want to listen.

Remember when the US sent Colin Powell to the UN to tell lies in order to facilitate an illegal war on Iraq? I do.

Remember when the US Right chucked a hissy fit about "socialism" when your President Obama wanted to give healthcare to every one of his fellow citizens? I do.

Over the last few days I've watched in bemusement as you Americans have tied yourselves in knots over the issue of gun control. It has been bizarre to watch.

You couldn't pay me enough to live in a country whose citizens get only two weeks paid leave per year, don't have the freedom to switch jobs without worrying about their prospective new employers healthcare plan, and have to worry about being blown away every time they ste ...

Wow, bitter much?

I am going out on a limb here and take a guess that you are an Australian, right? After all, your bio states, "Aussie..." Well, guess what? You could not pay me enough to live in a country where the people are so farkng stupid that they think that banning semi-automatic firearms will actually do any good!

If I remember correctly, your ban went into effect in 1996, right? Shall we look at the number of murders for your country? 

Interesting. Right after the ban the rate went up a little bit, dropped, and then spiked. Since then it has fluctuated but has trended downward.

"Ah-ah! I have you now Mock26. The murder rate has gone down since the ban went into effect!"
That is what you are thinking, right? Well, how about we look a the number of firearm homicides? 

Crickey! Will you look at that. The number of firearm homicides has been trending downward since the 19-farking-60s! And I bet you thought it was all due to your silly little ban on semi-automatic firearms. Sure, our murder rates, both for firearms and other means is higher than all other first world countries, but so what? We average about 45 murders a day in America, but do you actually know that the other side of the coin is? Our population is 311,591,917, and that means that every day over 311 MILLION people do not murder someone. We are such a bunch of murderous assholes that the number of people murdered cannot even be accurately expressed as a percentage that people would actually understand! Using just 311,000,000 as the population base the percent number of people murdered is 1.4469453376205787781350482315113e-7%

By the way, those above graphs come from you own farking government!
2012-12-19 01:09:03 PM  

orbister: JesseL: "The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common de
cency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."

Hypocrites. The phrase they are weaselling round is "acceptable cost".

if they hypocrites, then so is every single American who drinks alcohol. 40,000+ DUI related deaths is the "acceptable cost" of being allowed to legally drink in this country, and most Americans are perfectly fine with that.
2012-12-19 01:10:05 PM  
* If they are hypocrites....
2012-12-19 01:48:13 PM  
Funny, the NRA's Eddie Eagle program tells kids that if they find a gun to:
1. Stop
2. Don't touch
3. Run away
4. Tell an adult.

Remember, when a kid brings a gun to school, it's better to blame a government lobby in Washington than to have responsible parents. After all, those parents are just helpless to the responsibilities of their children.

The NRA is responsible for this like AAA is responsible for drunk driving.

/AA maybe
//but not AAA
2012-12-19 09:19:24 PM  

Rent Party: kg2095:
Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.


Yeah, but if gun control was tightened up surely those 11,493 homicides would be committed with a butter knife or a comb instead.

We aren't actually talking about gun control here. We're talking about gun owners controlling their guns so that bad people don't get hold of them and do bad things.

You comment is contradicts itself..
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