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2012-12-18 07:35:25 PM  
I really feel bad for this kid.
The parents should get cited for him getting a hold of the weapon, assuming that it came from the home.

They're pressing charges and I wonder how much better that approach is than just a good heart to heart with the kid being that he's 11.

I went to that school Back then the tongans just threw rocks at you.
 
2012-12-18 07:37:57 PM  
If your 11 year old child takes one of your guns to school you have failed so many ways as a parent and probably need to be sterilized
 
2012-12-18 07:43:04 PM  

diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed


This. I don't think we need more gun control, but we do need more nut control. That means finding the money to fund more mental health programs and educating the general public about mental health issues. It could even mean that we need single-payer health care to cover everyone so that even the poorest among us can get the psychological screenings they need--before they flip out on a BART station platform and a BART cop has to shoot one.
 
2012-12-18 07:43:23 PM  

Benjamin Orr: If your 11 year old child takes one of your guns to school you have failed so many ways as a parent and probably need to be sterilized


You don't know this neighborhood....it's one of the rougher ones in Utah, even 20 years ago it was pretty rough.
But yeah... Parents probably passed out after a wild night of feeding cats to thieir pitbull and smoking crack.
 
2012-12-18 07:44:53 PM  

diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed


But where should that money come from? The People?
 
2012-12-18 07:49:47 PM  

computerguyUT: Benjamin Orr: If your 11 year old child takes one of your guns to school you have failed so many ways as a parent and probably need to be sterilized

You don't know this neighborhood....it's one of the rougher ones in Utah, even 20 years ago it was pretty rough.
But yeah... Parents probably passed out after a wild night of feeding cats to thieir pitbull and smoking crack.


For some reason I find the idea of a rough neighborhood in Utah highly amusing
 
2012-12-18 07:54:17 PM  

Rent Party: mittromneysdog: Lochsteppe: This may sound extreme, but if you can't guarantee that

Contrary to the bravado, it is actually impossible to guarantee kids won't get ahold of one of your guns. You can decrease the odds to pretty low. But you can't decrease them to zero.

Horseshiat. If you can't outsmart an 11 year old, don't own guns.


I dunno. Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader has convinced me we have a lot of really savvy 11 year olds out there.
 
2012-12-18 07:57:05 PM  
Imagine another retard trying to kill kids at his school. They probably wouldn't even report mention him shooting the jerkoff.
 
2012-12-18 07:58:04 PM  

Benjamin Orr: computerguyUT: Benjamin Orr: If your 11 year old child takes one of your guns to school you have failed so many ways as a parent and probably need to be sterilized

You don't know this neighborhood....it's one of the rougher ones in Utah, even 20 years ago it was pretty rough.
But yeah... Parents probably passed out after a wild night of feeding cats to thieir pitbull and smoking crack.

For some reason I find the idea of a rough neighborhood in Utah highly amusing


I know. I could tell you stories though. Not all that amusing unfortunately. Well some of them were... :-)
 
2012-12-18 07:58:55 PM  

uttertosh: diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed

But where should that money come from? The People?


We've been raising the debt ceiling to pay for stealth bombers and pork barrel projects.
Raise it a hair more and get this done.
 
2012-12-18 07:59:13 PM  
Stand your ground kid.
 
2012-12-18 08:01:26 PM  
This is all wrong, we need a constitutional amendment to lower the age so all patriotic 3-year-olds can practice their rights!
 
2012-12-18 08:02:30 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I love the hyper-sensitivity to the tragedy.

BAN ALL GUNS, HERP A DERP

We should lock up all people with Asperger Syndrome because they could be violent.

No thought, just react.



62 mass shooting in the last 30 years.
50 mass shootings in the last 20 years.
7 mass shootings this year.
 
I think after 30 years of trying to deal with this problem, it no longer qualifies as a knee-jerk reaction.
 
2012-12-18 08:27:00 PM  
I once brought a gun to school.

CSB Time:

My dad inherited an 1898 model Winchester .22 caliber rifle from his dad. Bolt-action, single shot - barrel so short that it's not much longer than some pistol barrels.

It was a nice little rifle (still is, my brother has it now) but it had a broken stock, so I took it to my wood shop class in Jr. high - didn't bother to ask permission, and no one raised an eyebrow. Made a nice new stock out of black walnut, and a new trigger guard that I hammered out of a piece of brass tubing. The shop teacher was very helpful, showing me how to seat the barrel properly, etc.

End CSB


/Sometimes I miss the 1970's
 
2012-12-18 08:52:33 PM  

way south: /Can you believe there was only one ringtone?


Not if you were on a party line.
 
2012-12-18 09:02:06 PM  
he wont be getting his priesthood on schedule, now.
 
2012-12-18 09:04:28 PM  

Anonymocoso: JohnAnnArbor: powtard: We really need a Utard tag. There are nearly just as many stories about Utahns as there are Floridians anymore.

English, do you speak it?

Oh my heck! No, we don't speak English. We're in Utah.


stop talking shiz, yo.
 
2012-12-18 09:19:19 PM  

Anonymocoso: There are kids in Kearns that don't bring guns to school?

Wait, what?

/Used to live by 6200 South and 5600 West


I currently live near 6200S 5600W...

stalker.
gonna get me a gun.
 
2012-12-18 09:37:53 PM  

way south: uttertosh: diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed

But where should that money come from? The People?

We've been raising the debt ceiling to pay for stealth bombers and pork barrel projects.
Raise it a hair more and get this done.


So, not socialized medicine, then? Not your countrymen looking after thier own? MOAR DEBT. nice
 
2012-12-18 09:38:14 PM  
subby is a loser,that is all.
 
2012-12-18 09:57:33 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: The more guns in schools, the less likely someone will be injured or killed by one.

 
 
If guns aren't the problem, then guns are also not the solution.

 
 
2012-12-18 10:05:03 PM  
Load up on guns, bring your friends, It's fun to lose and to pretend
 
2012-12-18 10:07:29 PM  

uttertosh: way south: uttertosh: diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed

But where should that money come from? The People?

We've been raising the debt ceiling to pay for stealth bombers and pork barrel projects.
Raise it a hair more and get this done.

So, not socialized medicine, then? Not your countrymen looking after thier own? MOAR DEBT. nice


I wasn't in favor of socialized medicine, but congress is powered by the magic flowing from our wallets so SURE, why not?!

/Ever notice that the federal government is kind of like a cheapskate father?
/He tells you there's no money in the budget to buy the name brand breakfast cereal, then gets himself a nice leather lay-z-boy and a mini fridge for his beer.
 
2012-12-18 10:11:25 PM  

way south: /Ever notice that the federal government is kind of like a cheapskate father?
/He tells you there's no money in the budget to buy the name brand breakfast cereal, then gets himself a nice leather lay-z-boy and a mini fridge for his beer.


LOL! +1 for the analogy :-D
 
2012-12-18 10:15:32 PM  

Rent Party: JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1

Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link


Yeah, but if gun control was tightened up surely those 11,493 homicides would be committed with a butter knife or a comb instead.
 
2012-12-18 10:20:35 PM  
[shrug]
 
There were people right here on Fark, the day of the shooting, insisting that people in the school should have had guns, then this tragedy would not have happened.
 
Now they're backpedaling, saying what they MEANT was that TEACHERS should have had the guns. So, what, when a teacher gets caught with a gun tomorrow, they'll backpedal some more and say what they MEANT was that only PROPERLY LICENSED GUARDS should have had the guns?
 
This is why you don't go making up new laws & rules on the spur of the moment.
 
2012-12-18 10:21:56 PM  

hdhale: tallguywithglasseson: The more guns in schools, the less likely someone will be injured or killed by one.

So what you are saying is when they were handing out brains, you were very polite and held the door for everyone instead. Thanks.

Subby: thanks for confirming my belief that any moron can get a submission green lit if they try hard enough


I believe tallguywithglasseson was partaking of some sarcasm.
 
2012-12-18 10:40:43 PM  

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


Fark that - that dipshiat needs his ass beat, then sent to prison for two years and thier gun rights banned for life
 
2012-12-18 10:57:06 PM  

Homr: Anonymocoso: There are kids in Kearns that don't bring guns to school?

Wait, what?

/Used to live by 6200 South and 5600 West

I currently live near 6200S 5600W...

stalker.
gonna get me a gun.


No one can stalk you. They will get in a crash on those new Darwin lanes on 5400 South on their way out to you. Unless your stalker is in Tooele.
 
2012-12-18 11:05:23 PM  
"I swear Marge, U never thought he would look in the vegetable compartment."

/lax gun laws are like communism, both work great in theory, not so much in practice
 
2012-12-18 11:07:24 PM  
*I never thought...

/FIFM
 
2012-12-18 11:20:58 PM  
Just like sex education, a lot of adults expect someone else to do it so they don't hurt their snowflake's feelings. A lot of gun accidents in the households and kids carrying guns for this reason are usually offspring of those types of parents. I think a lot of the issues come from these types of parents raising their kids without educating them in dangers and consequences of weapons and their actions in general.

But hey, let's just get media over-sensationalism of tragedies and then rush through some half baked laws into place restricting rights even more and call it good, eh?
 
2012-12-18 11:25:07 PM  

RabidJade: Just like sex education, a lot of adults expect someone else to do it so they don't hurt their snowflake's feelings.


Serious question - why do you think home schooling is so much better than the public education system?
 
2012-12-18 11:59:00 PM  
Why is everyone assuming that the kid had the gun without parental permission?

The parents probably packed it in his lunchbox themselves.

"Study hard at school today, Johnny. And stand your ground. Now give Mommy a kiss before you get on the schoolbus."
 
2012-12-19 12:02:55 AM  

ensign_noname: that dipshiat needs his ass beat, then sent to prison for two years and thier gun rights banned for life


Easy there, citizen. The NRA does not condone the unlawful and unconstitutional suppression of a convicted felon's rights to keep and bear arms, once he has paid his debt to society.*

You probably didn't mean to hate America just now, but don't let it happen again.

* You may ask, where in the Second Amendment is the government empowered to deny felons firearms while in prison? This is an excellent question, citizen. The NRA has its best philosophers working on it.
 
2012-12-19 12:10:13 AM  

Gyrfalcon: [shrug]
 
There were people right here on Fark, the day of the shooting, insisting that people in the school should have had guns, then this tragedy would not have happened.
 
Now they're backpedaling, saying what they MEANT was that TEACHERS should have had the guns. So, what, when a teacher gets caught with a gun tomorrow, they'll backpedal some more and say what they MEANT was that only PROPERLY LICENSED GUARDS should have had the guns?
 
This is why you don't go making up new laws & rules on the spur of the moment.

 
 
Professional soldiers shoot themselves in friendly fire incidents all the time, but we're supposed to believe that civilians who have probably never been in a combat situation are going to be popping off head shots like they were the cast of The Walking Dead?  Demand for guns and ammo has been outstripping supply ever since Obama's election and we just get more mass shootings.  I'm sorry, but there has to be a better solution.
 
2012-12-19 01:39:29 AM  

uttertosh: diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed

But where should that money come from? The People?


New bullet and marijuana taxes.
 
2012-12-19 01:58:30 AM  
Drop the hammer on the parents.
If my dog bites someone, _I_ am held responsible.
Once mom & dad have to take off of work to go to court, or they have to start paying fines for little Johnny's behavior, or are forced to pay for child care because the kid got suspended ... watch how quick this doesn't happen again.
 
2012-12-19 02:00:41 AM  

Kibbler: Is this boy not a citizen?

What I want to know is, why don't we follow the constitution? The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Arms, not firearms. So bazookas and hand grenades and mortars and artillery.

And the constitution does not say "except in these cases." It says shall not be infringed.

If this kid wants to take a pistol to school, that's his constitutional right. If I want to take a bazooka onto a plane, that's my right. It's right there in the constitution. No exceptions listed.

I'm sick of the weaselly NRA talking about limited rights when we have the right to carry arms without restriction. I can carry grenades into a church. I can carry mines into Congress. I can mount a 50 caliber machine gun on my car. Let freedom ring.

Why are we denied our obvious, plainly-stated constitutional rights?


That reminds me of the episode of Family Matters where Urkel builds a nuclear device.
The feds had to get all up in his grill.
2nd Amendment, biatches.
 
2012-12-19 02:10:03 AM  
If they could, they'd ban everything.

In California, they banned nunchucks. Why? Because there's no NRA protecting nunchucks.
 
2012-12-19 02:43:19 AM  
Guns are not the problem here. I would like to point out that the per capita rate of gun ownership in America is 88.8 per 100 people. In Switzerland it is 45.7 and in Finland it is 32. The per capita firearm homicide rate is 2.9, 0.52, and 0.26 per 100,000 people, respectively. 1.9x as many guns as Switzerland, yet 5.6x as many firearm homicides. 2.8x as many guns as Finland, yet 11x as many firearm deaths. There is also a similar disproportion for other countries, such as Sweden(31.6/0.19), Norway(31.3/0.04), France(31.2/0.22), Germany(30.3/0.06), and Canada(30.9/0.76). If guns were the problem then how come there are not more firearm homicides for those countries? Surely if this was all because of the number of guns then all those other countries would have a per capita rate much closer to our own.

Clearly guns are not the problem. The problems, whatever they are, go much, much deeper than what amounts to nothing more than the tool of choice.
 
2012-12-19 06:25:37 AM  

JRoo: uttertosh: diaphoresis: //Lots more money for mental health issues needed

But where should that money come from? The People?

New bullet and marijuana taxes.


I agree with this. This is good reasoning.
 
2012-12-19 06:56:19 AM  

Mock26: Guns are not the problem here. I would like to point out that the per capita rate of gun ownership in America is 88.8 per 100 people. In Switzerland it is 45.7 and in Finland it is 32. The per capita firearm homicide rate is 2.9, 0.52, and 0.26 per 100,000 people, respectively. 1.9x as many guns as Switzerland, yet 5.6x as many firearm homicides. 2.8x as many guns as Finland, yet 11x as many firearm deaths. There is also a similar disproportion for other countries, such as Sweden(31.6/0.19), Norway(31.3/0.04), France(31.2/0.22), Germany(30.3/0.06), and Canada(30.9/0.76). If guns were the problem then how come there are not more firearm homicides for those countries? Surely if this was all because of the number of guns then all those other countries would have a per capita rate much closer to our own.

Clearly guns are not the problem. The problems, whatever they are, go much, much deeper than what amounts to nothing more than the tool of choice.


So basically what you're saying is that availability of guns isn't the problem, Americans are just murderous assholes.

Funny thing is, back when you American idiots were electing George W. Bush for a second time the rest of the Western world was telling you guys this exact thing and you assholes didn't want to listen.

Remember when the US sent Colin Powell to the UN to tell lies in order to facilitate an illegal war on Iraq? I do.

Remember when the US Right chucked a hissy fit about "socialism" when your President Obama wanted to give healthcare to every one of his fellow citizens? I do.

Over the last few days I've watched in bemusement as you Americans have tied yourselves in knots over the issue of gun control. It has been bizarre to watch.

You couldn't pay me enough to live in a country whose citizens get only two weeks paid leave per year, don't have the freedom to switch jobs without worrying about their prospective new employers healthcare plan, and have to worry about being blown away every time they step out of the house.

"Land of the Free" my farking arse.
 
2012-12-19 07:36:08 AM  
 
2012-12-19 10:02:58 AM  

JesseL: "The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common de
cency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."


Hypocrites. The phrase they are weaselling round is "acceptable cost".
 
2012-12-19 10:59:58 AM  
Well, as the old saying goes, An armed middle school student body is a polite middle school student body.
 
2012-12-19 11:02:54 AM  

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


I'll agree with this. With the recent legalization of pot in WA & CO, there's likely a bunch of prison cells that will need filling...
 
2012-12-19 11:49:19 AM  

Trapper439: Mock26: Guns are not the problem here. I would like to point out that the per capita rate of gun ownership in America is 88.8 per 100 people. In Switzerland it is 45.7 and in Finland it is 32. The per capita firearm homicide rate is 2.9, 0.52, and 0.26 per 100,000 people, respectively. 1.9x as many guns as Switzerland, yet 5.6x as many firearm homicides. 2.8x as many guns as Finland, yet 11x as many firearm deaths. There is also a similar disproportion for other countries, such as Sweden(31.6/0.19), Norway(31.3/0.04), France(31.2/0.22), Germany(30.3/0.06), and Canada(30.9/0.76). If guns were the problem then how come there are not more firearm homicides for those countries? Surely if this was all because of the number of guns then all those other countries would have a per capita rate much closer to our own.

Clearly guns are not the problem. The problems, whatever they are, go much, much deeper than what amounts to nothing more than the tool of choice.

So basically what you're saying is that availability of guns isn't the problem, Americans are just murderous assholes.

Funny thing is, back when you American idiots were electing George W. Bush for a second time the rest of the Western world was telling you guys this exact thing and you assholes didn't want to listen.

Remember when the US sent Colin Powell to the UN to tell lies in order to facilitate an illegal war on Iraq? I do.

Remember when the US Right chucked a hissy fit about "socialism" when your President Obama wanted to give healthcare to every one of his fellow citizens? I do.

Over the last few days I've watched in bemusement as you Americans have tied yourselves in knots over the issue of gun control. It has been bizarre to watch.

You couldn't pay me enough to live in a country whose citizens get only two weeks paid leave per year, don't have the freedom to switch jobs without worrying about their prospective new employers healthcare plan, and have to worry about being blown away every time they ste ...


And yet shiatbirds like you, who don't even live here, are obsessed with American news, American entertainment, and American politics.

Maybe what ever God forsaken piece of garbage country you live in could contribute more to the world except for going on social media in America and biatching about a country you evidently envy immensely.
 
2012-12-19 12:37:38 PM  

kg2095:
Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link

Yeah, but if gun control was tightened up surely those 11,493 homicides would be committed with a butter knife or a comb instead.



We aren't actually talking about gun control here. We're talking about gun owners controlling their guns so that bad people don't get hold of them and do bad things.
 
2012-12-19 12:41:33 PM  

ensign_noname: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Fark that - that dipshiat needs his ass beat, then sent to prison for two years and thier gun rights banned for life


Rent Party Law #3 is that judges are fully within their rights to sentence people convicted of certain crimes to "An ass beating." While normally reserved for property crimes (vandals, petty thieves, etc...) there is nothing within RPL that would preclude sentencing An ass beating for acts of abject stupidity.

I will leave it with the courts to decide if this case merits such attention.
 
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